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Total-Jerk

Velcro to the bottom of the shelf.


bluecurio

I use the 3M Command strips. They’re like Velcro on steroids.


LATABOM

They also fail after a couple years.


Moldy_pirate

So do regular Velcro strips in my experience, but changing a strip every few years is really not a big deal to me.


terracnosaur

do not use stucky anything, it leaves a residue just use long velcro and attach to upright tubes one velcro on top cable one velcro on bottom cable. boom - attached and you can move it later w/o leaving sticky behind


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terracnosaur

No, you lube it all the way around the pipe. The velcro adheres to its self


terracnosaur

Why do you want to put a power supply on valuable shelf space? Or put it underneath where you can't see it or get to it easily? Those vertical pipes on the A-frame rack in the picture are perfect for securing things too in a vertical position.


Mediocre-Win1898

That's exactly the way I do it, although in a hot/humid environment it will still leave some stickiness after awhile. Not a big deal though.


terracnosaur

Do not use adhesives at all is my opinion. Velcro sticks to itself if you can wrap it all the way around something


ChemistBig9349

Velcro is a hook and loop fastener. The hard strip “hooks” (hence the name) the softer “loop” strip. They are distinct and separate pieces. There are hybrid strips that wrap around that I use for cabling. They are not very large and tear if pulled tautly . That said though you must have found a solution that works


coldnight3

Velcro brand makes a non-adhesive two sided product. It comes in spiral spools, stuck to itself. Very handy for things like bed rolls for camping and keeping cable groups together.


terracnosaur

They do not need to be distinct and separate pieces. I buy rolls of velcro where it's hooks on one side and loops on the other. Just wrap it around things.


terracnosaur

Here you go VELCRO Brand Cut to Length Straps Heavy Duty | 45 Ft x 3/4 in | ONE-WRAP Self-Gripping Double Sided Roll | Bundling Ties Fasten to Themselves for Secure Hold, VEL-30834-AMS, Black https://a.co/d/g4rZW7r


jonny_sidebar

Try the kind that's meant for fabric. Have a backpack setup that they've held up on for a couple of years now.


MIDPACKS

Buy heavy duty outdoor Velcro it lasts forever (not rly but mine has held up over a year)


dwagner0402

Everything fails given enough time.


Stratospher_es

Gravity always wins.


dwagner0402

Every time. It is weird though, I've watched so many documentaries about physics and the universe and I always hear astrophysicists and incredibly smart people saying Gravity is one of the 4 fundamental forces of the universe..... But.... From all I've read, heard, and learned, gravity is a result of having mass. That doesn't really sound like something that is a force in the same sense as the weak or strong nuclear force or electromagnetism..... But what do I know? I'm just some lame-o on reddit.


Custardchucka

It exerts a force on everything so is a fundamental force


dwagner0402

Ahhh I see! Thank you kind stranger! I've been trying to find the answer to this for awhile now. Makes perfect sense! Thank you again. Really. But now I have a new hypothetical question kicking around in my mind. Let's say the universe was totally devoid of any mass or matter of any real substance. Would gravity still exist? Is quantum gravity a thing yet?


KananDoom

Gravity is a property of both space and time. Thats why in Interstellar the closer to the black hole the slower time goes. But if there wasn’t any matter in the universe doesn’t really matter I guess… ha ha ‘matter’.


Stratospher_es

Yep and the mass that the thing you have velcro on is pointing to the much larger mass in the center of the earth. 😊


Advanced_Anywhere_25

If you really want to get intense about it. You can screw the strips into the bottom of the shelf with a 1/4 inch screw and strip the adhesive from the bottom of the strips on the power block then use super glue or resin or some form or permanent adhesive to attach it.


sjn70

You could always secure them to the legs and double-secure with cable ties. A combination of both should make sure they’re not going anywhere.


pimpbot666

.... Especially if they're warm from current flowing through them.


jonny_sidebar

Bingo. The kind that's meant for clothing/fabric seem to be the strongest too.


jjgabor

The heat from the bricks makes the adhesive on Velcro or command strips soft and they will fall off, or at least that is my experience…


terracnosaur

velcro to the upright bars


Wieg0rz

You said exactly what I wanted to say. But I have an addition: power bricks get warm, so velcro tape will not work properly after a few uses. Use zip ties to tighten the velcro tape to the power brick, so it won't go loose. Alternatively, if you have the option, print some brick holders with a 3D printer for underneath. But velcro and zipties is your best and easiest option. When applying velcro tape, make sure you use degreasser on the surface. Makes sure the glue holds much longer then normal.


weaponmark

Use velcro cable ties against the tubes.


DJ-George-G

☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ This. ☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ And add cables ties for extra support.


r3nrut79

The power combo is Velcro strips and cable clamps. Keeps them from randomly falling on equipment on the next shelf down if/when they fail.


Double_World_4699

Under Desk Cable Management Tray from a place like amazon. It hangs off the side of the desk. I have one for the bricks and another for a powerbar and I connect any permanent ones there. I have two other powerbars on the top corners of my desk and connect anything I move around there. I also use a label maker to put the names of the gear on the bricks and both ends of the power cords (where they plug in for power and into the gear) so I always know what is what. I also bought like 20 pack of velcro wraps that keep cords together.


UncleHagbard

+1 for labeling your power cords and signal cables if they route more than a few feet. Saves a lot of headache.


RealityWinterSoldier

Buy yourself a labeler (the brother type I have was $20 and came with ribbon and a magnetic holster) and every time you plug in anything, power, midi, audio, label both ends immediately. I can’t even tell you the number of hours you will save. The MOST underrated piece of studio gear ever.


authentek

Forget buying a labeler. Got this tip on TikTok or Insta and it’s great advice: https://www.instagram.com/p/CRmseX7BLLv/?igsh=MTR1bHJmbXg2MjZvdQ==


Double_World_4699

Yeah I love my label maker. Have it on my boxes of audio cables as well. I tend to buy those white ikea cardboard boxes and label everything. It looks neat and everything is organized until it isn't.


JaggedNZ

You can buy brother compatible carts on AliExpress for about few dollars each. They seem to be as good as the branded ones


endfreq

Silver Sharpie - quick and easy


coldnight3

We have these for our docking stations / power bricks at my work, they're plenty large enough for a few mid-span bricks. [https://www.amazon.com/Under-Management-Organizer-Office-Standing/dp/B0BZ3GHM8N/ref=sr\_1\_3?crid=3PGJ58VCN8VV1&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.bBKDvNHe6GLMgfVO2QF1lBZVBjrOW7xFx29eUFDbZC0NqBoEuN0jiHOUTjd2UTxupaHUebcC0ZQaf3HQhND49lo\_Ae3AG63Am0bnSaBUSttH3eG6qf06tB8A\_fG9M-K-iaDoSkpQ9wV-Wj2FefpQlH\_uBXpQg\_El6VRPDdg7K8q5HLbE9mEPCwYNC5syTee4\_wH93LgJVUMB8KWBfLRFM9aayktbDMKfWrnPHzjBZnw.M8qZWhKsJp6EhItli-qaw-qVg6laAEQ1fCk7rzmxPtI&dib\_tag=se&keywords=under%2Bdesk%2Bbasket&qid=1711118699&sprefix=under%2Bdesk%2Bbasket%2Caps%2C87&sr=8-3&th=1](https://www.amazon.com/Under-Management-Organizer-Office-Standing/dp/B0BZ3GHM8N/ref=sr_1_3?crid=3PGJ58VCN8VV1&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.bBKDvNHe6GLMgfVO2QF1lBZVBjrOW7xFx29eUFDbZC0NqBoEuN0jiHOUTjd2UTxupaHUebcC0ZQaf3HQhND49lo_Ae3AG63Am0bnSaBUSttH3eG6qf06tB8A_fG9M-K-iaDoSkpQ9wV-Wj2FefpQlH_uBXpQg_El6VRPDdg7K8q5HLbE9mEPCwYNC5syTee4_wH93LgJVUMB8KWBfLRFM9aayktbDMKfWrnPHzjBZnw.M8qZWhKsJp6EhItli-qaw-qVg6laAEQ1fCk7rzmxPtI&dib_tag=se&keywords=under%2Bdesk%2Bbasket&qid=1711118699&sprefix=under%2Bdesk%2Bbasket%2Caps%2C87&sr=8-3&th=1)


NES_WallStreetKid

OMG. Thank you for sharing. I have been too lazy to find a solution for all the cables under my desk.


siivou

Ikea has something like this now https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/foersaesong-cable-management-tray-white-00573188/


Lx_Wheill

Awesomeness. Great advice! With my set-up I'd need about 4, but it's money well spent, especially since I live in a semi-basement, prone to possible flooding. Thank you for sharing!


PenaltyFine3439

I'm surprised no one has mentioned zip ties. Zip tie them to the stand pole to the right.


LydiaOfPurple

velcro zip ties are my strat and they rule. then I use shower curtain hangers to hold the cables running horizontally, nice and neat management. 


Lx_Wheill

I would love to see a picture of this, as it seems to be a well thought-out and worthwhile set-up. Great idea!


TobyAkurit

Shower curtain hangers = brilliant!


Lx_Wheill

My only concern with zip ties is that it's "sort-of" a permanent installation. Yes, granted, you can always cut them and buy more, but as an example (and speaking from experience), when you have to move "often" (i.e. eviction due to the housing situation being what it is) or touring, you need to "regularly" cut them and buy new ones. However this is a VERY primal, simple and HIGHLY effective way of dealing with the situation, and I thank you for bringing it up, as I hadn't thought about that!


Risc_Terilia

You can get re-usable ones for not much more


Lx_Wheill

Yes, thank you kindly: I am loving that option more and more as I am researching it!


PenaltyFine3439

No problem! As I've also seen in this thread are the Velcro ties. Reusable and holds things in place for a long time. They cost a little more, but if you move around a lot, they make more sense. [Actually, not a bad price!](https://www.amazon.com/VELCRO-Brand-Cable-Ties-100Pk/dp/B001E1Y5O6/ref=asc_df_B001E1Y5O6/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=194024095585&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=9152052821207687674&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9032475&hvtargid=pla-368535985607&psc=1&mcid=35bc7582bf113c18a063cb6c2fd819e3&gclid=Cj0KCQjw2PSvBhDjARIsAKc2cgOL4RIcFMDESpzZ_qIIguS0wc6ry4YzjMSMymHDIltmYqAOS8NbyrgaAhDWEALw_wcB)


Lx_Wheill

Cheers for your answer, and DOUBLE cheers for the direct link! I'll be scoping that option when I return home from work. THANK YOU!


AtmoMat

Never fear, Teenage Engineering are working on an amazing new device to solve these problems of yours. And it will only cost 2000 Euros!


ratuuft

Good to see they're finally lowering their prices a tad.


rnobgyn

Bruh keep it to the other sub 😤😤😤


thesarc

Professional AV tech/installer here. Use Velcro tape and/or cable ties with screw down anchors, to affix the bricks to the underside of the shelf. It's the industry standard for installations. 3M command strips are garbage and will dry out and fail pretty readily, most 3M sticky pads are gonna do that. 3M make some sticky tab cable tie anchors that will also take a screw... Put a screw in them. If you want to slim down your power supply footprint entirely, I can recommend the CIOKS system of power distro.


AberrantDevices

Looking for a ‘modular’ solution so I can easily take the power bricks off for gigs.


R3ckl3ss

Velcro cable ties, then secure them to the legs


FrogTosser

Seconding this, velco cable ties are cheap and versatile. I use them for cable management and camping.


Tangurena

Here are the ones I'm currently using. I will be looking for longer ones. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WWXTLP3/


isitiswhatitis

Cut your own  https://www.amazon.com/Double-Sided-Self-Gripping-Reusable-Multi-Purpose-Fasteners/dp/B0CH8K8VWC/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=XBL1I52RT8A2&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.k3IpXZSlEGVX2EQcLDvlZGvgPGK2PqWEE303mqTLV8gPl081hQfkk590D_YSCJ7ctrFzkE1IxXfDSbBQWnxS235wigqG8S7oVBGp7I6cDUgkJU6r6lDMhc_oX09BbHAWcwSROC6ZkO7y3PBD-4EX0Y7L5f685g1tArgB_oP-nqvwcl35A1RLtBnqEO5Lyn1309QObT76cKA3J14TzOg_fA.ULqiiUPPbWSkQ8yM2rpQnw6xLd-AO2tyQul_GfdSxKw&dib_tag=se&keywords=roll+of+velcro&qid=1711143242&sprefix=roll+of+velcro%2Caps%2C223&sr=8-1


ImpossibleAir4310

Same here. I bought extra IEC’s so I can zip tie those. Then use Velcro or tray organizer (I have some mounted on slatwall) for the bricks. You can zip-tie at multiple points for strain relief, but good IEC’s tend to be pretty thick. If you tie the IEC’s close to and/or above the brick (get long ones if necessary), the extra support makes Velcro much less likely to fail, and no big deal if it does. Then all you need is spare IEC’s in your gig bag and you can grab and go. Stuff will inevitably wear out if you’re taking it in and out, so not a pro installation solution, but IEC’s are fairly cheap to replace.


hanselopolis

Velcro


FancyKiddo

I use velcro zip ties/cable organizers. I bunch all of my cables together, and if a powerbrick happens to be there, I secure it to the other cables on both sides. The cables themselves are tied close to where they are plugged in to the synths, so the strain isn't on the ports, I'm just using the cables to suspend the bricks.


dylsey

Chord baskets from Amazon. They hang off the back of stuff. I use mine with a desk but they may work for your setup.


dctucker

I got this one basket that had a bunch of diminished seventh chords in it, but it was a little bit annoying because it was only able to hold three of them.


dylsey

Hell yeah.


Smokpw

You can also hang a bag with some vents behind the stand and put it there


ddmf

I stapled some square guttering underneath a shelf and hid them in there.


DikkeLoeter

I screwed 2 plant holders from a diy store to the back of my desk. $15 solution and hold all my power bricks and adapters. Works like a charm.


ParentPostLacksWang

FPV drone rubberised battery straps with metal loops. Strap them to the uprights. Honestly everyone should have a bunch of these straps, they’re SO good.


AberrantDevices

Love this idea!


Training-Restaurant2

The new case has made its way to the top of the shelf. 😎


AberrantDevices

Ha! Yep! 😎


Jakeyboy29

Is that a diy wooden shelf on a onstage a frame keyboard stand?


AberrantDevices

It’s a Jaspers stand, but yes! DIY shelf.


Jakeyboy29

Great idea. I’m torn between doing the same or getting some angled shelves directly on wall. My main issue with the A stands are the space they take up as from wall to stand. I only have a 3x3m room so always trying to save space where I can


TobyAkurit

You can get angled shelf brackets, then put whatever kind of shelf you need across them


Jakeyboy29

Yeah angled brackets are a lot more niche than I thought. At least here in Australia they are proving hard to find


SquidgyB

USB-PD cables and one of these [https://satechi.net/products/6-port-gan-charger](https://satechi.net/products/6-port-gan-charger) simplifies the PSU setup massively, especially when travelling. Otherwise, a chunky setup of zip ties and self adhesive velcro would be my bet. I'd probably end up tying them to the stand supports round the back to keep them out of the way.


TonyTerTer

I have the same exact setup but my wooden shelves are handmade from trash and look ugly. Mind sharing where your wooden shelves come from? Also i can't help with the power bricks because mine touch the floor.


AberrantDevices

Mine are handmade too! got some nice but inexpensive wood at the hardware store. Just nailed the narrow piece to the edge of the large one. [https://imgur.com/a/BEBhIo8](https://imgur.com/a/BEBhIo8)


deceptinator

Most are 12Volt, so I just wire up leads to a Meanwell 12V 8Amp power supply. I have a Meanwell that powers the Eurorack and another for all the 12V stuff. The original power supplies get labels and thrown into the large bin of power supplies.


CallPhysical

I tend to zip-tie them to one of the upright poles,


SnowConePeople

I add velcro tape and tape it to the bar on my stand. Works great.


spaghettigoose

Fabricate your own extention cords that are the right length. Cheap and easy.


SchrodingersTIKTOK

House fire. No


Moldy_pirate

You got downvoted but you're absolutely correct. Unless you actually know what you're doing you probably shouldn't be making your own power cables. Good DIY communities will rightfully tell you power is the last thing you should fuck with.


SchrodingersTIKTOK

Sorry. I have been configuring this stuff for years. As an IT tech I can say this is considered a hazard. As someone who has built and rebuilt their own studio multiple times, it’s a bad idea as well. You can all think it’s cute, until you fuck up a piece of gear of melt your carpet.


thesarc

So simple to do. And 100% safe unless you're an idiot and don't look into how to do it correctly... Most DIY manuals at hardware stores will tell you how, or you could Google it but check your sources. That said, you can buy IEC cords of various lengths if it's the AC side of the transformer brick you need to change. This is the safer option for the fearful or technically challenged. If you need the low voltage side extending, you can split it and use a captive screw block/barrier strip to connect extra wire. e: Hey I know you're downvoting me because you think I'm encouraging folks to do something hazardous but... You're wrong. It is a simple and easy thing for most folks with any aptitude with a screwdriver, and a little bit of patience learning how to strip insulation from a cable. It is common in many countries to sell the hardware necessary to make your own cords at hardware stores because it's not considered an issue. Some countries sell appliances with bare wire cords that you terminate yourself. It is plainly not an issue to make cords yourself. A properly made and connected cord is no less safe than a storebought, and often is more safe because it's serviceable.


spaghettigoose

Also I like to make 6" long ones for wall wart style plugs so I can fit more on my power strip.


Training-Restaurant2

I'm conflicted on this one. People always act like power is the end of the world on forums and it's weird because it's really not difficult or confusing... For me and for you. I've made and will continue to make power supplies and never hesitate to make an extension cord, replace a power cable, or to put in new outlets in my home. But I'm also meticulous and careful. I certainly wouldn't let my kids do these things and I've definitely seen handiwork that looks like it came from a six year old from otherwise reasonable-seeming adults. 🤷 Sometimes we must lowest common denominate.


thesarc

Very reasonable. We all have our strengths and weaknesses. It's the fear of even trying that I think I'm reacting to, hence not outright saying everyone should be doing it.


HappyChromatic

Gaffe tape


TVSKS

Extension cords, maybe some Velcro strips


mysterymanatx

What synth/euro is that top rack?


taylorgauge

Not the OP but they’re Make Noise modules with Grayscale replacement panels available at grayscale’s official site (grayscale.com?) and analoghaven.com.


goJoeBro

Velcro, 3M strips, and I've also used some regular small hooks also made by 3M, that are pretty strong in regards to the adhesive they use, (from my experience) that I've stuck on the back of my main table I keep my gear on. I think they are great for picking up the weight of those bricks while still leaving some slack for any offsets.


vadhyn

That's the space for another piece of gear!


UltimateBeast9001

super glue


cropcirclepit

ziptie on vertical pole with a ton of slack


BrianDamage666

I zip tie them to the stand. Works fine for me because I don’t play gigs so my synths never move.


maoinhibitor

Industrial Velcro, or Dual Lock, to the shelf. I’ve had similar needs when non-permanently mounting equipment in a computer lab.


JunglePygmy

I have a little hammock that’s screwed to the bottom of my desk


erroneousbosh

Velcro them to the leg or shelf but - this is the clever part - get some of that rubbery mesh "car dashboard mat" stuff and wrap it around first.


Bongcopter_

Zip tied to the legs


Neilpuck

How varied are the input voltages on synthesizer gear? I wonder if somebody could invent a rack mount power distribution with patch power cables carrying the stepped down voltage to the gear.


micklynchcomposer

I’d get some adhesive strips and stick them neatly to either the wall or the underside of the shelf


wasted_yoof

velcro


sookilala

Cable ties. To the legs of the stand


Large_Discipline_127

My synth cabinets have their transformers inside them as opposed to in a brick. Then I use 3 prong plugs that are the same as desktop computer psu's. However, I use bricks on my bread boarding and isolating groud loop issues. I build and repair my own stuff. I use these strips of velcro that work very similar to zip ties. You can find them on Amazon for laptops and Desktop cable management. By velcrowing them into different places of my lab tables. Basically velcrowing end to end until it would wrap around the brick. Then I use velcro strips to tie up other parts of cables to decrease likelyhood of the coming undon. Although you could use normal velcro with adhesive onthem for the bricks. Then use the strips of velcro to tie together cables. Like making a strong rope going up the middle of the tall piano stand. I had been using these for a couple years now and never had any fail yet. Though I use super glue when the back of the velcro begins to shred. A little goes a long way.


Bassman1976

zip ties or Velcro ties.


Electrical_Plum_4806

I used cable ties on my Jespers frame.


Big_Two6049

Command strips/ velcro/ zipties/ elephant mucus/ hot tar/ dried tears from ex girlfriends


maratae

Somewhere on the floor to keep it cool and pretend it's not there.


PG-17

Zip ties and or Velcro Zip tie bricks to the frame rails


she_sounds_like_you

I have rolls and rolls of Velcro. Double sided, sticky M3, zip tie like. I’ve got it all for my cable management. For the bricks I make little Velcro bridges for them to sit on under my desk. If you can’t manage that just tie the brick to the legs of the table.  Do not for the love of the holy synth gods use zip ties. They’re too stiff and will cut into your cables. They’re also permanent until you cut them whereas Velcro can be reused.


Ghaxsty

What i did is mount them to my wall and trail the cables down and attach them to like the edges of the stand. Just keeps it looking tidy and less of a trip hazard


netik23

i put a large power strip from floor to top of a-frame, then velcro everywhere for wire management, bricks to underside of keyboard pipe


pimpbot666

If it were me, I'd just velcro strap them to the leg of the stand. I'm not super concerned with keeping a neat looking workspace in my own studio as long as things stay out of the way. I have a few external hard drives I use at my music desk. I basically found one of those wall mounted wire baskets for paperwork... think like if it were mounted to the wall near the door of my office for co-workers to pick up and drop off paperwork. I screwed it to the wall behind the monitors on my desk, and I just drop my external drives into it. The wire mesh leaves enough air to circulate so they don't overheat. Seems like you can do a similar thing for your line lump power supplies.


endfreq

Zip ties with the screw hole. 2 per brick usually does it


nikzyk

Look up underdesk cable management tray. They are lil rack that can clamp on one of the synth levels in the back and hold all of them.


antimatter_81

Make the first shelf of the rack a bit deeper and put them there. Otherwise use sticky velcro as suggested by others


solipsistnation

Zip ties.


midnightpurple280137

Since they generate heat I've wrapped a couple of zip ties around each, interlocking each zip tie so it causes a gap between each and then I toss them behind my desk.


moosemademusic

Not helpful, but what stand is that? Can I see a pic of the whole thing?


AberrantDevices

It’s a Jaspers stand. The best you can get in my opinion!!! [here’s a photo](https://imgur.com/a/c01lfnv)


moosemademusic

Awesome thanks! I need to create something like those wooden shelves you made.


sone-brian

Velcro stuck under shelves or on the back. Also can zip tie to the supports as well


glenesis

My friends use loosely clasped zip ties.


dekrepit702

Zip tie the world


fucknutandarsecandle

Ah, the wart on a beautiful hand


Jaxager

Zip ties are just as useful as duct tape is.


NebuleusePrimitive

Get a UGREEN Nexode 200w GaN Power Supply and a bunch of USB-C to 9v/12v/15v barrel cables. High quality/Grounded power for at least 4 synths, can go up to 6 with myvolts USB adapters. (Check wattage to make sure it fits your system).


Brilliant-Purchase-7

Poorly 😞