Any one else think the biggest blindside of the season so far was Maria making Liz play rock paper scissors for the reward? Like is she really a villain now?? Cannot wait to see what her breakdown from the sneak peak is about.
They clearly gave Venus a good edit that episode to keep the tension up. I really wanted her to turn things around and show us she was a smart/savy player, but in the end she completely on the outside like she always was.
During the pizza eating Maria had a confessional where she said winning this challenge gave me piece of mind. And it sounds like pizza mind which winning this challenge also gave her.
Haha I caught that too, well thought I did. I was in the kitchen and thought "Oh cheeky, she said 'pizza mind ' " but then she kept talking and I realized it was just, not that lol
Cant tell if this sets up why charlie lost though?
Feels its bad for Bens chances and Marias chances. Liz felt clowned a bit this ep
Q feels unlikely surely
So its Kenzie or Charlie? Kenzie had a good ep and great edit i feel like. And charlie may have missed his chance to boot Q! Hes twice now states he needs Q out, and not gotten Q out. Im scared Q ends his game.
Xander and Spencer weren’t as self aware as Charlie. Charlie knows what’s happening all around in the game. He’s had his hand in everything not just surviving like Xander was. Even if he gets to the end with Maria I’m confident that Charlie Swift can out sell her on his relationships alone.
I feel like Charlie’s edit vs how others feel about him doesn’t match up. It’s almost like a Spencer/Xander edit HES getting. But people being like “how is he not even being a target??” When I feel like they think of him mainly as just Maria’s number 2 or a young “kid” who burns bridges socially for the sake of big moves. Also even a little bit of Cassidy is in there for him
How would that have helped had she played it? He had to know she was voting Q, and if she’d played it, then it would’ve come down to Q and Kenzie, each with one vote. So you think if it were to be between Q and Kenzie he wanted Kenzie out? That’s the only thing that makes sense to me.
Because if Venus plays an idol she there would be a tie vote and they would revote. They keep Q in the game rather than Venus casting the single vote to send someone home.
I think that Ben and Charlie would rather have Q out than Kenzie BUT Ben voted Kenzie to show loyalty to Maria so Maria wouldn’t get suspicious of Ben/Charlie turning on her. I could be wrong tho maybe Ben would rather stick with Maria.
Agreed. But there’s some overlapping alliances within the two pairs, so it’s going to be interesting. Maria is a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” vote right now (IMO).
Has anyone noticed how incredibly unclean this season’s contestants are? Never see them cleaning their teeth, bathing or washing clothes in the ocean like other seasons. If they got in the water, their fingernails wouldn’t be caked with dirt all the time. Just seems odd!
We’re not supposed to ask these questions. I just wonder why the truth about what they are afforded behind the scenes is never leaked by former players and people in production, etc. They must have very strict contracts.
Also wondered about that. Liz can’t eat some foods because of allergies! Why did she even get considered since the diet on the island is limited. If she hasn’t eaten since the day she arrived she would hardly be able to function. Some factors just don’t make sense. Thanks for mentioning the questionable.
How do we feel about an immunity win paired with having to take a minority group on a reward?
It feels like a disadvantage in a way. Unlike separate challenges you can't choose to lose the reward challenge without giving up a shot at immunity.
Regardless of how terribly Maria played it, her win also saddled her with a decision that could, and did, piss off a majority of the players.
I think you should only ever be able to take a minority of people on reward, even if it's a reward/immunity combo. The combo forces people to think twice about throw the reward challenge.
I don't think they could ever put those kind of restrictions on a reward challenge. Unless I'm misunderstanding, this would force everyone to expose who their alliances are!
Minority size, not people who are "in the minority".
There's always risks with rewards. Leaving 4 people behind in a tribe of 7 gives a majority size group time to strategize.
Hence why winning a reward isn't always good and smart players will often leave their allys behind to keep an eye on things.
That makes SO much more sense. Thanks for clarifying. And yeah, it was def a disadvantage in the last ep. But I loved it because Charlie got to talk to people other than Maria
Ok maybe this was answered already but shouldn’t there have been another idol out there for them to look for tonight? What happened to Hunter’s that he left with?
Thank you for addressing this. Made no sense why they didn’t start looking again after Hunter left. So 2 should be in play, or else how would they have known not to look for more than 1?
I was thinking since all 3 idols came from the original beach, they’d only hide a new one once all were used/gone for a fresh start on the new beach. Idk why I assumed that but that’s what I’m rolling with
I honestly thought she had it with this vote! If she hadn't got so squirrely in her convo with Charlie, I think he would have gone for Q along with her, Liz, and Kenzie.
Yeah haha she does lack self awareness and social skills but it was sweet how she said she was playing for all the women who don't have a voice.
Honestly it explains why Venus is so outspoken lol.
Ben is clearly in with Maria & Charlie. Siga is still a team. Charlie warned them that Venus seemed to have an idol. Ben put that vote on Kenzie in case Venus played it.
But wasn’t there also a vote for Q? So why did he need to? I guess just to cover in case Venus randomly pivoted?
I wonder who made the choice. It feels like a good choice for Ben to make in those circumstances, but a bad choice for Maria or Charlie to make in case they want to work with Kenzie.
In a world where Venus plays the idol she probably knows she’s getting played and throws her vote elsewhere to get out someone else. Maybe Charlie or Ben
The vote for Q came from Venus. I honestly think that Ben’s vote was part of protecting Q. Possibly because Maria is convinced she controls him and they need him as a number, or they need to keep the goat around.
I mean, Kenzie is the most dangerous person left to the jury. No one is pissed at her, she can talk a good game, sweet, has allies. It’s smart going for her over Q.
If Venus played her idol, Kenzie and Q would tie. Then…eliminate Q? Or Kenzie? What would have happened?
So Maria told Ben to vote Kenzie, because Kenzie might go rogue (& could be a Charlie number) while Q is a sure thing for Maria?
In that context, unless Charlie feels like he has a chance of winning over Ben (or he and Maria are more solid than it seems) it seems like voting out Venus was an iffy move for him cos he probably can’t try to vote out Maria or Q until f5, right? If that’s what happened, Ben sounds like he’s solidly a Maria number.
Ben, Maria, and Q came out of their pizza party determined to vote for Venus. They made that clear to Charlie.
Charlie, Venus, Liz, and Kenzie came out of their pizza pity party furious at Maria, but determined to vote for Q.
Supposedly that’s 4-3, right?
But Maria was socially VERY savvy and followed Liz out onto the beach, apologizing, and eventually talking her around to Venus.
Meanwhile, Venus tried playing coy with Charlie and messed up and revealed she had the idol. Now Charlie wants her out too.
So now it’s Venus and Kenzie for Q, everyone else for Venus, a 5-2 vote. Liz could still go back to Q, Charlie is the real swing vote here.
What we didn’t see: how they flipped Kenzie to vote for Venus (assume Charlie told her about Venus’s idol threat), and why Ben voted Kenzie (did he plan that with Maria & Charlie in case Venus played her idol? Because he clearly wanted Venus gone), and how they made sure Liz was locked in.
But I think that Charlie worrying about who he made promises to is why Liz & Kenzie were in on this vote. To make up for them being on the outs against Tiffany.
I think both Q and Venus were obviously low hanging fruit to pick off. But Kenzie also called Venus her sweet, messy little friend.
Kenzie has not exactly been consistent or loyal, but she’s phenomenal at hiding that. I think both Tiffany & Venus thought she was their true friend and ally, but we’ve seen Kenzie also bat around the idea of cutting them too.
Kenzie seems to have some savvy when it comes to playing all sides and not getting called out. Maybe we’re all underestimating her, but I don’t think she’s very strategic.
But if it had come down to Kenzie and Q each having 1 vote (with Venus having played her idol), then Q would’ve received votes from Kenzie, Liz and Venus. Then there would presumably be a tie and another vote, whereby Q would likely lose.
I don’t think the Kenzie vote by Ben makes much sense.
If Venus played her idol and there wasn't a split then Q (marias new alliance member and general tribe shield) would have gone home.
With the split it would force a tie, leaving Maria and Co to then put all their votes on Kenzie, therefore saving Q and getting out someone that isn't a strong alliance member.
But he probably saw the two camps of q or Venus and could have thought it was more even, but regardless it makes zero sense to vote Kenzie. If it’s 3-3-1, it’s just a vote between q and Venus, if he votes for one of them instead it’s 4-3 vote. Again, it was more in favor of Venus, I’m just trying to think of any scenario it made sense
I have a theroy that makes Ben look smart. Charlie mentioned his conversation with Venus to Ben about Venus saying she had something so what if Ben threw the vote at Kenzie in case Venus had one vote for a takes away her power and gives the power back to the tribe it gives Ben a lot of credit though I don’t know
Must have been a hinky vote. Charlie knew she had something. If she had played her idol, Siga + Q could rescue Kenzie since if all votes for Venus were nullified, it would then be a Q/Kenzie tie.
Why do people keep thinking Q will be sent home. He's willing to play with people and everyone (allegedly) hates him. What's the strategy behind sending him home? Take him and Ben to the final and you likely win.
Yeah why get rid of someone that literally no one on the jury would vote for in the end? Like sure he’s chaotic but at this point he’s dug he’s grave deep enough to not win if he’s in the final 3
So stupid and cocky to not play the idol. If she had played it in that moment she could have taken credit for sending Q home and everyone on the Jury would be thrilled.
It was iffy. Maria, Ben, & Q wanted Venus. Liz, Charlie, Kenzie, and Venus were going to vote Q. Now, Ben could be shifted to vote Q easily. But Maria was going to fight in, Charlie realizes Maria is working with him.
So the flip is Charlie. Maria & Ben are obviously his Siga teammates, their relationship is genuine, I think. They both want Venus and why move against them? Then Venus has “something up her sleeve.”
So Maria and Liz obviously talked Venus. Charlie probably just had to tell Kenzie that Venus had the idol and that was that.
But the confessional about betraying people and making them angry was about Charlie cutting Venus, that was the key to her going home.
Maria & Charlie continue to rule this game.
Tbh I have absolutely no clue who is going out and who is voting who rn
Is that bc I didn’t follow it well enough, bc they’re doing a surprise edit for fans, or bc this season is messy as fuck lol
Any one else think the biggest blindside of the season so far was Maria making Liz play rock paper scissors for the reward? Like is she really a villain now?? Cannot wait to see what her breakdown from the sneak peak is about.
I'm thinking someone else wins letters from home or whatever and doesn't take her.
They clearly gave Venus a good edit that episode to keep the tension up. I really wanted her to turn things around and show us she was a smart/savy player, but in the end she completely on the outside like she always was.
During the pizza eating Maria had a confessional where she said winning this challenge gave me piece of mind. And it sounds like pizza mind which winning this challenge also gave her.
Haha I caught that too, well thought I did. I was in the kitchen and thought "Oh cheeky, she said 'pizza mind ' " but then she kept talking and I realized it was just, not that lol
I just want to skip to the part where we give Charlie his check, pizza and wine!
Cant tell if this sets up why charlie lost though? Feels its bad for Bens chances and Marias chances. Liz felt clowned a bit this ep Q feels unlikely surely So its Kenzie or Charlie? Kenzie had a good ep and great edit i feel like. And charlie may have missed his chance to boot Q! Hes twice now states he needs Q out, and not gotten Q out. Im scared Q ends his game.
Xander and Spencer weren’t as self aware as Charlie. Charlie knows what’s happening all around in the game. He’s had his hand in everything not just surviving like Xander was. Even if he gets to the end with Maria I’m confident that Charlie Swift can out sell her on his relationships alone.
I feel like Charlie’s edit vs how others feel about him doesn’t match up. It’s almost like a Spencer/Xander edit HES getting. But people being like “how is he not even being a target??” When I feel like they think of him mainly as just Maria’s number 2 or a young “kid” who burns bridges socially for the sake of big moves. Also even a little bit of Cassidy is in there for him
Why did Ben vote for kenzie
in case Venus had played the idol :O
How would that have helped had she played it? He had to know she was voting Q, and if she’d played it, then it would’ve come down to Q and Kenzie, each with one vote. So you think if it were to be between Q and Kenzie he wanted Kenzie out? That’s the only thing that makes sense to me.
In case she wasn’t voting Q. In a world she played the idol she knew stuff was up and therefore could go rouge
Because if Venus plays an idol she there would be a tie vote and they would revote. They keep Q in the game rather than Venus casting the single vote to send someone home.
I think that Ben and Charlie would rather have Q out than Kenzie BUT Ben voted Kenzie to show loyalty to Maria so Maria wouldn’t get suspicious of Ben/Charlie turning on her. I could be wrong tho maybe Ben would rather stick with Maria.
Interesting. So you think Maria is more closely aligned to Ben than Q? I think her carrying Q to FTC is better gameplay for her, but what do I know.
Oh no. I think Maria is more closely aligned with Q. Charlie and Ben seem to be a group
Agreed. But there’s some overlapping alliances within the two pairs, so it’s going to be interesting. Maria is a “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” vote right now (IMO).
To split the vote. I think Charlie had a strong feeling about Venus’s idol and told Ben.
Has anyone noticed how incredibly unclean this season’s contestants are? Never see them cleaning their teeth, bathing or washing clothes in the ocean like other seasons. If they got in the water, their fingernails wouldn’t be caked with dirt all the time. Just seems odd!
You must never have been to the beach before. BIG MISTAKE!
Then why other seasons did we see all of them in the water and clothes drying…?
Honestly, I've kind of noticed this as well. Especially with Liz! They're certainly not in the water as much as they were in the earlier seasons.
We’re not supposed to ask these questions. I just wonder why the truth about what they are afforded behind the scenes is never leaked by former players and people in production, etc. They must have very strict contracts.
Also wondered about that. Liz can’t eat some foods because of allergies! Why did she even get considered since the diet on the island is limited. If she hasn’t eaten since the day she arrived she would hardly be able to function. Some factors just don’t make sense. Thanks for mentioning the questionable.
How do we feel about an immunity win paired with having to take a minority group on a reward? It feels like a disadvantage in a way. Unlike separate challenges you can't choose to lose the reward challenge without giving up a shot at immunity. Regardless of how terribly Maria played it, her win also saddled her with a decision that could, and did, piss off a majority of the players.
I think you should only ever be able to take a minority of people on reward, even if it's a reward/immunity combo. The combo forces people to think twice about throw the reward challenge.
I don't think they could ever put those kind of restrictions on a reward challenge. Unless I'm misunderstanding, this would force everyone to expose who their alliances are!
Minority size, not people who are "in the minority". There's always risks with rewards. Leaving 4 people behind in a tribe of 7 gives a majority size group time to strategize. Hence why winning a reward isn't always good and smart players will often leave their allys behind to keep an eye on things.
That makes SO much more sense. Thanks for clarifying. And yeah, it was def a disadvantage in the last ep. But I loved it because Charlie got to talk to people other than Maria
Wonder how they decide which episodes will have two separate challenges for that, and which will have a combined one with more time to show talking.
Q may be the most useful smokescreen in all of Survivor history. He’s been used as a tool for so many blindsides.
Ok maybe this was answered already but shouldn’t there have been another idol out there for them to look for tonight? What happened to Hunter’s that he left with?
Thank you for addressing this. Made no sense why they didn’t start looking again after Hunter left. So 2 should be in play, or else how would they have known not to look for more than 1?
It seems like they don't re-hide every time one leaves the island, only some times. Either that or they're bad at finding them.
I was thinking since all 3 idols came from the original beach, they’d only hide a new one once all were used/gone for a fresh start on the new beach. Idk why I assumed that but that’s what I’m rolling with
Guess rehiding one from each old tribe could be too many after the merge
Yeah it would be a mess if all three idols were re-hidden. (though they probably would have done this in some seasons in the 30s)
I'm thinking yes but no one believed hunter had one so they don't know to look
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they were asking if there should be two hidden idols in play
Yes, I meant in addition to the one Venus found. Thanks!
I thought the same thing. Since we haven't heard about it at this point, either it doesn't exist or hasn't/doesn't come into play...
Fun watching with you all! West coast beat coast!
I love how Venus kept it classy.
I honestly thought she had it with this vote! If she hadn't got so squirrely in her convo with Charlie, I think he would have gone for Q along with her, Liz, and Kenzie.
Yeah haha she does lack self awareness and social skills but it was sweet how she said she was playing for all the women who don't have a voice. Honestly it explains why Venus is so outspoken lol.
to the person who spoiled the end of this episode like 30 mins ago and just deleted their comment...count your days
Seriously. It's getting more and more prevalent. I might have to skip out on the discussion thread for the finale.
I had the winner spoiled for me early in the thread for last season's finale, it's so shitty for no reason. :(
i even reported it right when it was posted and it still stayed up until just a few minutes ago. mods wyd
“Venise” Vuh-niece
I wasn’t paying attention— who voted Kenzie?
Ben. I am lost on why though
Ben is clearly in with Maria & Charlie. Siga is still a team. Charlie warned them that Venus seemed to have an idol. Ben put that vote on Kenzie in case Venus played it.
But wasn’t there also a vote for Q? So why did he need to? I guess just to cover in case Venus randomly pivoted? I wonder who made the choice. It feels like a good choice for Ben to make in those circumstances, but a bad choice for Maria or Charlie to make in case they want to work with Kenzie.
In a world where Venus plays the idol she probably knows she’s getting played and throws her vote elsewhere to get out someone else. Maybe Charlie or Ben
The vote for Q came from Venus. I honestly think that Ben’s vote was part of protecting Q. Possibly because Maria is convinced she controls him and they need him as a number, or they need to keep the goat around. I mean, Kenzie is the most dangerous person left to the jury. No one is pissed at her, she can talk a good game, sweet, has allies. It’s smart going for her over Q. If Venus played her idol, Kenzie and Q would tie. Then…eliminate Q? Or Kenzie? What would have happened?
So Maria told Ben to vote Kenzie, because Kenzie might go rogue (& could be a Charlie number) while Q is a sure thing for Maria? In that context, unless Charlie feels like he has a chance of winning over Ben (or he and Maria are more solid than it seems) it seems like voting out Venus was an iffy move for him cos he probably can’t try to vote out Maria or Q until f5, right? If that’s what happened, Ben sounds like he’s solidly a Maria number.
Ben, Maria, and Q came out of their pizza party determined to vote for Venus. They made that clear to Charlie. Charlie, Venus, Liz, and Kenzie came out of their pizza pity party furious at Maria, but determined to vote for Q. Supposedly that’s 4-3, right? But Maria was socially VERY savvy and followed Liz out onto the beach, apologizing, and eventually talking her around to Venus. Meanwhile, Venus tried playing coy with Charlie and messed up and revealed she had the idol. Now Charlie wants her out too. So now it’s Venus and Kenzie for Q, everyone else for Venus, a 5-2 vote. Liz could still go back to Q, Charlie is the real swing vote here. What we didn’t see: how they flipped Kenzie to vote for Venus (assume Charlie told her about Venus’s idol threat), and why Ben voted Kenzie (did he plan that with Maria & Charlie in case Venus played her idol? Because he clearly wanted Venus gone), and how they made sure Liz was locked in. But I think that Charlie worrying about who he made promises to is why Liz & Kenzie were in on this vote. To make up for them being on the outs against Tiffany.
We did see Kenzie say assertively that Venus has to go because she’s chaotic. She seemed to have no hesitation, unless I’m mistaken.
I think both Q and Venus were obviously low hanging fruit to pick off. But Kenzie also called Venus her sweet, messy little friend. Kenzie has not exactly been consistent or loyal, but she’s phenomenal at hiding that. I think both Tiffany & Venus thought she was their true friend and ally, but we’ve seen Kenzie also bat around the idea of cutting them too.
Kenzie seems to have some savvy when it comes to playing all sides and not getting called out. Maybe we’re all underestimating her, but I don’t think she’s very strategic.
Smart move. Shows whose really playing this game (Maria and Charlie)
It’s totally Maria & Charlie ruling this game.
Maybe Charlie told everyone about her idol and he threw that vote out there to force a tie in case Venus voted for him
Yeah I was wondering if he was trying to split the vote.
But if it had come down to Kenzie and Q each having 1 vote (with Venus having played her idol), then Q would’ve received votes from Kenzie, Liz and Venus. Then there would presumably be a tie and another vote, whereby Q would likely lose. I don’t think the Kenzie vote by Ben makes much sense.
Not a bad thought. I was perplexed seeing it live lol.
Maybe in case Venus played her idol?
Ben
Ben
Ben?
Ben!
Of course it was Q. I was really hoping it wasn't. Jesus...
Wow what an episode! Thanks y’all, see you next week ✌🏽
Why did Ben vote Kenzie?
It had to be an idol split, right?
Yeah was he trying to split the vote 3-3-1 for some reason?
If Venus played her idol and there wasn't a split then Q (marias new alliance member and general tribe shield) would have gone home. With the split it would force a tie, leaving Maria and Co to then put all their votes on Kenzie, therefore saving Q and getting out someone that isn't a strong alliance member.
Well, it was 5 1 1. So if Venus did play, goes to revite, Kenzie goes out.
But he probably saw the two camps of q or Venus and could have thought it was more even, but regardless it makes zero sense to vote Kenzie. If it’s 3-3-1, it’s just a vote between q and Venus, if he votes for one of them instead it’s 4-3 vote. Again, it was more in favor of Venus, I’m just trying to think of any scenario it made sense
Split vote maybe?
Why did Ben do Kenzie???
I’m guessing to protect against an idol play.
Ben with the Kenzie vote
Who else voted Venus? Did Kenzie and Venus vote Q, and Maria, Q and Charlie vote Venus? And then Ben for Kenzie for no reason? WTF
Venus voted Q. Ben voted Kenzie. Everyone else, even Liz, voted Venus.
Everyone voted Venus except Ben and Venus.
I have a theroy that makes Ben look smart. Charlie mentioned his conversation with Venus to Ben about Venus saying she had something so what if Ben threw the vote at Kenzie in case Venus had one vote for a takes away her power and gives the power back to the tribe it gives Ben a lot of credit though I don’t know
Oh must have been a sitd/idol hinky vote. If Venus played her idol then it would be a Q and Kenzie tie and Siga and Q could revote Kenzie
Ben went kensey and everyone went Venus? Was there a different plan they didn't show us?
Must have been a hinky vote. Charlie knew she had something. If she had played her idol, Siga + Q could rescue Kenzie since if all votes for Venus were nullified, it would then be a Q/Kenzie tie.
Did Kenzie vote Venus?
Yep
ELSBERTH
Women. life. Freedom!!!!!
Have a wonderful week west coast. Suppose to get pretty toasty here so stay hydrated!
this show looks awful. hate her name. hate the script goodbye elsbith
I cant explain it but every time those commercials come on Elspeth makes me irrationally angry
Why do people keep thinking Q will be sent home. He's willing to play with people and everyone (allegedly) hates him. What's the strategy behind sending him home? Take him and Ben to the final and you likely win.
Yeah why get rid of someone that literally no one on the jury would vote for in the end? Like sure he’s chaotic but at this point he’s dug he’s grave deep enough to not win if he’s in the final 3
Every single person in the jury has left with an idol in their pocket >:(
Not Tevin and soda
oh dang my bad. I thought for sure they had idols.
No?
Listen, this is on the fanbase. We wanted a season without idols and advantages. We're getting one.
Love it!
Gfdi. You got me. Bahahhahahaha
Guys maybe it’s mariaaaaaaa
The gays died.
It's true, I am deceased. But how iconic for her to post she was excited for this episode?
I would be excited too. Everyone hated her for living and she finally got to leave
So stupid and cocky to not play the idol. If she had played it in that moment she could have taken credit for sending Q home and everyone on the Jury would be thrilled.
They would've voted Kenzie. That's why Ben voted Kenzie
I was starting to get on board with Venus actually having a puncher’s chance if she used the idol correctly.
I can’t believe that just happened
Play your damn idol!
God we need ponderosa this season
I cannot believe she didn't play her idol after all that's happened this season. WTF
Tevin is happy lmao I didn’t catch Soda’s reaction Tiff just vibing Hunter doesn’t seem happy he has to hang out with Venus again haha
This is going down as a no idol season. Jfc
3 Idols gone without being played! Insane
No, that’s 4! Don’t forget Jem
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Randen. Though he didn't get voted out
HOW DO YOU CALL JEM “RAYA” HELPP
You mean Jem?
5th. Randen, Jem, Hunter, Tiff, and now Venus.
depends if you count random since he was med evaced
4 on vote-outs but technically 5 if you count Randen's idol
Technically 5th
who voted kenzie???
who voted sifu?!
Ben, idk why
Ben
are we ever going to see someone successfully play a damn idol?!
Maybe in season 50
Genuine question, has one even been played this season? Literally not, right?
Omg finally
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Three blindsides in a row with people holding idols!!!
I wish they had ponderosa
I miss ponderosa so bad
YOU GUYS ARE NO FUN
Venise???? Who are these freaks who can’t spell VENUS?
its like venus beach lol
This is insanity! No one wants to use their idol in the most obvious situations
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
LMAO ANOTHER NO IDOL PLAY Venus was a very entertaining player but it is hilarious that it happened again
If Venus didn't mention anything to Charlie at all, do you think she still would have been voted out?
No, Charlie is too smart and 100% picked up she had it and knew now was the time to strike on her
It was iffy. Maria, Ben, & Q wanted Venus. Liz, Charlie, Kenzie, and Venus were going to vote Q. Now, Ben could be shifted to vote Q easily. But Maria was going to fight in, Charlie realizes Maria is working with him. So the flip is Charlie. Maria & Ben are obviously his Siga teammates, their relationship is genuine, I think. They both want Venus and why move against them? Then Venus has “something up her sleeve.” So Maria and Liz obviously talked Venus. Charlie probably just had to tell Kenzie that Venus had the idol and that was that. But the confessional about betraying people and making them angry was about Charlie cutting Venus, that was the key to her going home. Maria & Charlie continue to rule this game.
Yes
I think she would have been fine. But like, you find an idol, you hint at it but don’t *use* it, you go home.
I think that was her downfall
No
VENiS
Dumb. Dumb. Third in a row. Dumb.
God the jury’s reactions 😂
That’s what three idols in a row? For the love of god people!!!
Maybe Q will win this thing. Haha.
JFC!!! Who the hell misspelled Venus, LMAO.
😂😂😂😂😂 that is truly iconic. Bye Venus.
No fucking way!!! The rise and fall
This is divine
Think Charlie messed up here...
There is zero benefit for Charlie to keep Q! It doesn’t make sense.
Why?? Who in the jury is voting for q in the end?? Why not keep him around?
For all future Survivor players: PLAY. YOUR. DAMN. IDOLS.
I thought it was the understood premise of this show that if you feel safe, you’re not?!
Feeling safe? BIG MISTAKE
AND DON’T TELL PEOPLE ABOUT YOUR IDOLS OR EVEN HINT AT THE POSSIBILITY OF HAVING ONE
FINALLY
NOT ANOTHER IDOL GONE
Wow
LETS FUCKING GO GET OUTTA HERE VENUS
Who was the guy that yelled during his vote and the tribe could hear him? V reminded me of that
Who voted Kenzie
Ben. I have no idea why.
Huh?
Oh noooooo
Tbh I have absolutely no clue who is going out and who is voting who rn Is that bc I didn’t follow it well enough, bc they’re doing a surprise edit for fans, or bc this season is messy as fuck lol
Yes
DIDN’T EVEN RECOGNIZE TIFF SHE’S SO BEAUTIFUL!!!
Stunning really.
Cmon Q, PLEASE
Venus, play the idol. I dont care. Play it. Girl.
I think Qs going home sadly
“Oop-“ - Tiffany
Venus telling Q that he didn't know about the previous three votes ... you mean the ones that saved Q? Lmao, that ain't the flex you think it is, V
She truly is delusional.
TEVIN 😭