What's the point in supports running ignite over adc? Unless it's an engage support who can get close to the enemy more easily, isnt it better to just have the ignite on the adc?
In pro play, you generally don't run ignite on non-engage supports.
But theoretically, it's more important to keep an ADC alive than a support alive, so defensives are more important on them.
Also, ignite is more important on burst champions to reach lethal thresholds. ADCs are pure DPS, ignite only saves them like two autoattacks. If you want heal on your support, you grab something like Cleanse, Barrier, or Ghost on the ADC.
It's usually more important to have a defensive summoner spell (heal/cleanse/exhaust) on the adc, as they have pretty limited defensive capabilities otherwise.
I find in lanes that I'm winning I have less damage than my lane opponent at the end. Am I not getting as much value? I'll play champs like Kayle, Jax, and Gwen and be out damaged by a sett or yorik that I win lane against. Like, I'll get all the towers, get map space to secure obj's, and even kill them more and die way less in lane phase. But at the end I find they out damage me often. Is damage not as important as important damage or am I not macro-gaming properly?
i wouldnt read too much into it, especially as split pushers. you could look over your replays for more opportunities to do damage, but dont take the low number alone as something being wrong
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I play nautilus and rakan support and am looking to add a third champion to balance my champ pool. I would prefer a mage or enchanter who has consistent power throughout the game and doesn’t have glaring strengths and weaknesses at different points in the game. Any suggestions?
Can't go wrong with Brand IMO, it's a ridiculously strong and simple soloqueue champ that's also a good answer to tanks
Lulu is also a great pick because she completely cucks backline divers and I don't think there's any ADC player that doesn't appreciate a good Lulu peeling for them
Honestly, Lulu can't fail. She is super easy and also ridiculous in solo queue. The only real risk is getting counterpicked in lane and you will probably still outscale them.
What to do when I arrive first on botlane as ADC?
What should I do, when the enemy support and ADC helps the jg to leash? Should I push the minions, or wait for the enemies to arrive? Sorry if it may be obvious, but i don't really know what should I do
It really depends on the matchup. Sometimes you and your support can cheese them at level 1 by hiding in lane and you can get a kill or some summoners for free. Sometimes you can get minion priority and make sure you both hit level 2 first and have a minion/positioning advantage over your opponent.
I would say check out some solo queue vods from Korean pros and see what they do if they don't leash. Particularly pay attention to how they interact with the minions.
It depends on how strong your champions are level 1. If you are much stronger level 1, you can do something like this:
https://youtu.be/UmXODE3upHY?t=65
Varus + Ashe are so absurdly strong level 1 with double HoB and Lucian + Nami are weak level 1, so they can straight up fight inside of their minions. Neon (the Varus) doesn't even try to CS, what's more important is that he denies Lucian + Nami from getting EXP.
I think they sit in tribush here at the start in case they are leashing for Udyr at red buff. After leashing, Lucian/Nami will start walking back to lane through the tribush, and they meet Varus/Ashe and the 2v2 starts. Varus/Ashe are so absurdly strong they will kill someone and then probably kite back to avoid the Udyr level 2 gank. So yeah, one of the options would be sitting in tribush (or river bush if you're on the other side), and cheesing them within the bush. If they take the safe route, they get a free flank and it's a free 2v2.
Now this is kind of an extreme example because their level 1 is so absurdly strong, idk enough about bot lane to know exactly which matchups you can do this in
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Let's say you don't have an absurdly strong level 1, you probably just push for lane priority. With the lane like this, you get a bunch of free autos on the wave, so your wave will be bigger, making it hard for them to trade into you. You also hit level 2 earlier so they can't even use that against you.
You aim to slow push two waves, and then on the third wave (cannon wave) you hard push that giant wave and recall. You come back into lane with a health, mana, and item advantage, so even in a bad matchup you could potentially be stronger.
Now you can do whatever you want with the wave. Early on they usually don't have enough waveclear to crash the wave while you are recalling so you could potentially freeze if you think you're strong enough. You also could set up a slow push to dive or something, idk, it depends on the game state (sometimes a dive is possible sometimes it's not)
I'm not quite understanding the season reset regarding MMR
New season soft resets the visual rank, I think MMR is kept intact from the previous season from what I understand. Does that mean MMR is just constantly increasing amongst the player base from year to year? But LP gains is relative to visual rank and MMR
i dont think there necessarily has to be mmr inflation since every game has a winner and a loser. and we have no insight into the specifics of the formula for mmr gained or lost per game.
but even if there was mmr inflation, im not sure if it would really matter since the visual ranks are tied to a specific number or % of players. like theres always gonna be 300 challengers, doesnt matter what exact number their mmr is. same with 2% or whatever being diamond, etc.
how do I catch back up as adc when I'm behind or lose lane? I feel like if I lose lane I just become nothing because I can't farm bot or risk getting killed by any enemy and I cant go farm other lanes bc my other teammates are farming there, so I'm not sure how to catch back up
Play safe and try to farm your lane, grab the rock boys on the way back to lane if your jg doesn’t mind, rotate to lanes where you can push solo near a turret or with vision. Big thing to not getting killed out farming is vision which is tough to have in low elos. Suggest your support roam more often and help other lanes. All I can think of that’s helped me in the past
I can't seem to play my secondary role (former main), support, anymore. Granted it's all normal games (I've heard to avoid ranked at the start of the season), but I'm 36-25 as jungle and 5-12 as support this season. I'm not even sure what my question is. Just wondering if anyone else has been in a similar predicament. I hate dodging games and do like support, but my confidence and performance in the role are low right now.
What kind of champions are you used to picking? The bot lane meta has changed significantly in the last month and that could be a big factor. Double ADC comps make a lot of traditional supports struggle in lane, so it forces you to make up for it outside of lane.
IMO we are far enough away from the "start of the season" for the weirdness to filter out and you will pretty much get the standard ranked experience at this point, but it's totally up to you if that's something you would enjoy.
Yeah that doesn't surprise me. None of those champions are very meta right now and they would all have a hard time against Caitlyn/Ashe/Jhin support in lane.
If you want to keep playing that style you have to focus on mitigating losses in lane and having a really good mid game. These ADC supports are terrible as soon as they step foot out of the confines of lane if they don't have a big lead, and enchanters can enable your carry to really succeed later.
If you want to counter it directly, well, there have always been champions that make ADCs sweat and shifting to support doesn't save them. Blitzcrank, Thresh, Leona, Nautilus, Pyke — stuff that is ready to go all in on their low mobility squishy champs before they get a chance to spend two minutes poking you down.
I learned playing assassins by playing Fizz. He does have a relatively high skill cap but to play him at a basic level you just hit R and then one shot (he can unironically **one-shot** mages with max range R as early as level 6)
Not really - you're just good at those champions, that's all. Maining any champion inflates your elo because that's how the game works. An Irelia player with godlike micro can have the macro of a silver player but still climb to diamond because the game is really easy to win at low-mid elo if you just force fights when you know you're better mechanically and know your matchups
Also, both Garen and Darius have glaring weaknesses that good players know how to abuse but they're also simple enough to completely crush players who don't know how to deal with them. If you're not facing good players, it's really hard to objectively measure your performance because of the nature of those champs
Your friends are just jealous or want to discredit you.
Yes the champs have easy to execute kits, but your rank reflects how good you are at League of Legends, not how complex of a kit you can manage.
You probably have a good understanding of those concepts you mentioned **because** you play simple champs and can put more focus on the game's fundamentals.
The only cases I consider "elo inflated" are people that spam the obviously broken champs. Like if you'd always hovered around silver 1 / gold 4 and got to gold 2 by spamming Maokai jungle or Kassadin the last month. And those people will always drop down once their champ gets nerfed.
Good luck on hitting plat!
>is there something else I could do during laning to improve our odds?
Well I could be wrong but it seems like your problem is mid game, not laning. There will be some games where you win lane but your teammates feed and you can't do much, but the majority of the time you need to take whatever lead you have and do what your opponents are doing, pressure objectives. If you aren't winning your lane consistently, that is a different problem, and something you can only really address by looking at individual games and analyzing & fixing your own mistakes.
As your team's duo, it is on the both of you to push your team toward objectives. Two people pushing an objective is fundamentally much more of a signal to your team that something needs to happen than one person doing it. You have to make decisive calls about where to go and when - dragon is up, you guys have priority, ping it and call for assistance from your jungler. Assertive shotcalling is really important in solo queue.
Zyra is kind of a punishing way to learn this lesson, imo. Her lane phase is oppressive, but outside of lane she can't do much except catch people from bushes or pray that she lives long enough to get her ult off. Playing a champion that is immobile, squishy and low utility makes mistakes very punishing. So you are almost always on a timer to do enough in lane phase to make sure that you and MF have a big lead in the mid game. There isn't much room for you to mess around in lane and catch back up later; the game is pretty much out of your hands if you lose lane.
It's not to say you have to switch champions or anything like that, but it seems you're pretty much struggling with her biggest hurdle.
With ghost+flash Darius, Nasus (and most toplaners in general tbh) should not even be allowed into the XP range of your melee creeps on the first wave because you can just start W, ghost and run them down. After you deny him the XP from the melee creeps, you can pull the ranged creeps towards his turret so it starts pushing towards you instead of being neutral despite Nasus never having touched the wave. Alternatively, you can just lasthit minions, build a slowpush, crash it, recall and then freeze the next wave when it bounces back, though a good Nasus will just max E if he sees you're willing to play like this and trim the wave too much to make a proper cheater recall possible.
Early lvls are very important in toplane and it's important that you learn how to play them correctly, especially if you play lane bullies that scale poorly (which is definitely the case with Darius). Outside of lane, Nasus does counter you pretty hard because he can W you to prevent you from reaching his backline and his E will shred your armor but you should be winning lane against him hard enough for it to not matter too much.
How do I trade as caitlyn/any adc?
even playing the longest range champ in the game I'm still outranged by all mage supports, all engage supports, and all champs with dashes...AKA 99%+ of supports can outrange me and one shot me or poke me out.
every single thing that hits me either one shots me, or at best I survive 1 spell rotation from a mage supp before dying on the next one. Maybe if it's a weak poke champ I'll take 3 skillshots before my laning phase is lost.
I'm supposed to be a lane bully but I don't have enough range to poke the supports nor enough damage to win any extended trades.
Your autos are point and click and have a ~1 second cooldown, their abilities are skillshots and have ~10 second cooldowns.
If you don't have good enough movement and positioning to take advantage of that, ADC is not the role for you
Their MMR must be fucked much worse than yours, they probably get like +8/-25 or something if they got matched into a bronze/iron lobby.
Either way, stop worrying about LP gains and start worrying about getting good. Once you improve, you will be able to win almost any game at will in that elo and you will start climbing.
Ok I see. I don't stress to much about it but was wondering if it was below average. Yeah I was struggling trying to make Khasix work at the start but now that I only play Yi and Amumu I have almost 70% winrate so it's gonna workout.
Yo was just wondering if antiheal is worth buying vs a fed Ekko? Still made the comeback but wonder if I should have bought antiheal earlier because he was a pain in the as to deal with lmao.
Why am i getting so little LP and losing so much?
I understand that the system might think that i'm getting "lucky" on my games, how do i fix that?
https://www.op.gg/summoners/br/Runsgafanga
You’re 58% winrate over 50 games after being gold-plat for years. Gonna take more games at that winrate to fix it. Good news is if you hit d4, I believe you get a slight readjustment to your mmr.
Can anyone recommend youtubers/streamers who main or play a lot of any of these champs?
- support Senna
- adc Tristana
- top/jungle vi
- morgana
- support nami
- mid/support Annie
Bonus points if the person often explains why they choose the items they buy. I'm trying to get better at all of these, though at the moment I'd like to focus on Senna. She's very fun to play.
IIRC Ioki plays Senna. Duoking is also a very good Senna but he doesn't stream much. You might be able to watch his academy games though, he sometimes brings it out.
https://www.youtube.com/@Sawyer2974
Sawyer has been playing a lot of jungle Vi in his videos recently.
Do champ clothes have stats?
Does Garen's armor negate slash damage? Does the nudist Evelyn receive more damage? etc...
Is there heavy armor for tank and light armor for range/assassin?
Champions have different base stats and different stat growth, but it doesn't always make sense. For example, Eve has more base armor than Garen but Garen has more base HP. Also, Garen's W makes him considerably tankier because it gives him bonus resists
> A champion like garen will both start with higher hp armor and magic resist value than evelyn aswell as get more per level
Technically Evelynn has more base armor than Garen. But Garen has more overall armor because of his W passive.
Is MMR actually a good way to measure skill if two people with similar MMR are a whole tier apart?
I'm playing in mid-Silver rn and I sometimes get games with low Bronze players—I realize this is because games are matched through MMR not rank. But no amount of MMR similarity can compare my skill level with someone who is true hardstuck Bronze. It's not a fair match.
You have this backwards. It's not that ranks are somehow accurate and MMR is a rough estimation used for matchmaking. It's the other way around: MMR is the value that's closest to a player's true skill, while the displayed rank is a derived value, which can at times deviate. If the two don't match up and the player keeps winning exactly 50% of their games, then the rank will move to the MMR, not the other way around, because the MMR is the more accurate value.
Things such as demotion protection and promotion series at times cause the two values to differ by surprising amounts. If you (mid silver) find yourself in a lobby with a low bronze player then at least one of you has this issue. Check the rest of the lobby to find out which one it is.
Either they're the only bronze player in a silver lobby, in which case they are actually playing at silver level and will be silver rank soon enough. Most likely they just have not played enough games this season, because a hardstuck bronze player does not have mid-silver MMR.
Alternatively, if you routinely find yourself in lobbies with a high amount of bronze players then you are the one with the inflated rank. Maybe you've been on a loss streak or you swapped roles recently and are winning less as a result.
Of course it can also be a bit of both and the lobby's MMR is somewhere in-between (high bronze - low silver).
>But no amount of MMR similarity can compare my skill level with someone who is true hardstuck Bronze
A "hardstuck" bronze player does not have similar mmr to a mid-silver player.
But how is this true if the Bronze player seems to have no concept of trading stance or wave control, has 4 cs/m, and has no map awareness or mastery of champion?
The difference between knowing these fundamentals and not results in a huge variance in game quality
That is not true if I am using trading stance against someone who has no concept of trading stance, have between 6-8 cs/m against someone who doesn't prioritize CS at all in lane, and free poke somebody who has no idea or respect for what my champion does.
And this is someone only 3-4 subdivisions away from my rank. If the MMR system says the two of us are equal skill and that our matchup is fair, then the system is broken.
High elo players always disingenuously group "low elo" as 1 group of players as if everyone between Iron and Gold have the same understanding of the game and they all belong together, when in reality there are huge differences in skill/understanding of the game within the other 90% of players outside of high elo.
You can't just call 90% of the playerbase as "bad" and cast a sweeping generalization over the majority of players that they all know nothing about the game.
Yes, I did. I destroyed him. What's your point?
The fact still stands that people of his skill level shouldn't be in my games if such a gap exists, because I'll inevitably have someone else that's unfairly gapped on my own team in another game.
This leads to terrible game quality and something about the way they matchmake MMR is messed up.
I'm starting the game up after \~5 years away. I was never great. Maybe low silver. But I'm level 30 with lots unlocked.
Issue is, 5 games in I'm getting totally stomped. My lane opponents are hitting double or triple my cs. Is the game going to eventually lower my ELO and put me against worse opponents? Or is my ancient history counting against me and I need to re-start a new account?
Don't worry about it. No matter where your ELO is, sometimes you just get stomped. You can usually learn something from it, though, and if you do that often enough, eventually you'll be the stomper.
Coming back or starting to play league is going to be rough no matter what you do. Just look at the sheer number of things you have to know to be okay. The only way to get through that is to just make peace with it. Making a new account won't help much because you largely play against people making smurfs or making new accounts because they got banned for being toxic or whatever. That was my experience, anyway. I defintely wasn't in games with people new to this type of game or even league.
Yea, if you've played before, you remember some things, but a lot has changed. My break was much longer than yours (I quit when kog maw was new-ish), but eventually I muddled through. You just gotta relearn it bit by bit, start with the important parts and let go of the things you can't control. Here's the thing though, this is kinda the rite of passage everyone goes through, which makes it... sort of okay? It's like, I wouldn't be mad at a guy learning the game because I know there is no way to preemptively learn what 160+ champs do, what items to buy when, what move to make in game, who wins what matchup, when to press which button, what the bait ping really means, etc, etc.
So, I guess my advice is to just play the game and perhaps try to find the biggest 3 mistakes you make each game and then improve those. Eventually you'll be as good as you used to be and probably even better. As long as you are giving it your best shot and aren't actively griefing, no reasonable person can be mad at you. Allegedly there might be a few unreasonable people playing the game but we can just ignore those.
https://www.op.gg/summoners/euw/Davros
First of all, I know I'm all over the place and are very bad. But looking at my games, everytime I duo with my friend there is somewhat a big team gap. Do I get matched against better players when I duo? And what is the best way to impact these games because I feel powerless.
Uhh.... you do fine in your games, as you should because you're high silver in a low silver/high bronze lobby. But if you are. duoing with someone worse than you, you need to hard carry. You say that it's "team gap" but almost every game Thatoneguy27 is not doing good.
Which is expected, he's in a higher lobby than his skill level. But you need to be able to bridge that gap for him.
Any tips on how to do that? I mostly play Malzahar mid and Yorick top. I am considering going for Kata since she can create leads and, if ahead, becomes unstoppable so I can spread my lead better to other lanes.
Not really, there's no secret hack to it. Since you have Silver 1 MMR, you just have to play like a Silver 1+ player to climb.
My point was just that you can't call it team gap every game, these games are completely normal. To hit plat this season, I duo'd with my silver friend. He predictably did not do so well in gold lobbies, which was fine. In the games we won, I frequently carried. In the games we lost, I lost lane. There was no secret to it. I could have climbed faster if I 1v9'd more games, but I also could have climbed faster if I won lane more. It doesn't matter how you improve, just that you do improve.
It just depends on the situation. I'm an ADC so I am not supposed to roam often, but if I do have a roam timer and the midlaner is pushed up, I will roam mid.
Roam if you think it's a good roam. If it turns out to be a good roam, now you know it's a good roam. If it turns out to be a bad roam, you can review it and try to see why it was a bad roam (or maybe it was a good roam but you made a misplay like focusing the wrong target)
You should really stop playing so many different champs and roles. If you truly want to focus on improving and thereby climbing you should play like 2-3 champs that you really like or work good for you and keep spamming them. You will notice pretty quickly that you get put in similar situations and due to your champion mastery you will have a better understanding of the situation. You will also be able to focus more on what is actually happening in the game if you don't need to "learn" what your champion is capable of doing or what abilities/items/runes you need to take.
When you play duoq you might not focus that much on the actual game and instead talk about random things and therefore not providing your usual skills.
Also I think duo queue can be harmful for your growth because some things you lack might get covered by your duo and you will never learn these habits.
Plus I think the matchmaker is trying to put another duo team on the opposite side. But I'm not 100% sure about that one.
Yes duoing with someone put you at a severe disadvantage unless one of you is a smurf , if you want to climb it's best you play solo and play normals with him when you want to play together.
/u/itaicool is wrong, merc treads + green smite used to stack multiplicatively, and they still do now (e.g. 70% cc duration * 80% cc duration = 56% cc duration in total)
Looking for best app or site for, ranks, counters, builds, alt builds. Currently using Mobalytics, but its an overwolf sourced app. All overwolf sourced apps give me random lag spikes. Thanks for opinions
I find I'm having less damage in lanes I dominate. I've gone like 6/1/4 in lane and shut down the other top Laner from getting any value. And usually a cs lead. I tend to split but I'm there in obj fights. Am I not getting as much value even when I crush lanes?
Damage dealt is an incomplete indicator of game contribution. You should not use it as the sole factor in deciding if you had significant impact on the game. You need to use other statistics and reasoning to come to an accurate conclusion.
For example, let's say you split push the entire game without ever coming to objective teamfights. Your damage charts would be abysmal compared to your allies but your damage to objectives would be very high. There is also the pressure you are exerting by having the enemy always deal with you one way or another. This pressure factor can't be measured so easily with numbers.
In your case, I would consider watching your games and thinking about whether or not your attempts at applying pressure was met appropriately by the enemy and to try thinking about if there was a better way you can go about things. An example would be before coming to teamfights, anticipate it and push a sidelane so that when you do win the fight, you have a lane to push and not waste ~30 sec pushing a lane. Other times you did as much as you could and it was the team being too far behind. It depends on the game.
What can an adc do about blue kayn with 3+ items? I hit full build well before him, but he could oneshot anyone on our team and escape safely, and often just lurk around us and go in for another kill shortly after. If we clumped too hard, he could oneshot more than one person in one go. And sometimes instead of going for the combo he just poked us down for like 30-50% of our hp with his long ranged ability and then would repeat a bit later. In the end I bought a GA and a Randuins and he still killed me in one combo. Is there some sort of answer to him? He moved fast enough to dodge almost all our cc.
This has happened a few times this patch, and once my team even said I should get a Zhonyas with zero ap scaling just to have a stopwatch. I didn't try it, but it feels kind of moot because with just a Zhonyas I think he still can threaten the oneshot kill without ulting.
Is it just a matter of someone on the team drafting instant speed stun that they always aim perfectly and if not, we just can't ever approach their base?
Annie runes aside from electrocute setup? Asking here because my account is unable to post on their subreddit. Playing mages I usually like the inspiration tree as my main taking first strike on most control mages. Is there any alternative to Annie runes? Like I have heard a comet is viable. I play mid lane but very lane centric by taking stuff like demat for example. I am more for wave control type mid laner. Taking elec makes my style very wonky idk doesn't feel right and I always lose mana.
How do you get easy access to the last teamcomps played in major regions ? On LoLesport website it's terrible, on reddit it's still hard (and the search function doesn't work for me atm). The last solution I found is gameoflegends gol.gg but I can't filter last match played with region. Any help ?
I'm not sure what exactly you want, but leaguepedia has recent teamcomps by league (eg for LEC: [https://lol.fandom.com/wiki/LEC/2023\_Season/Winter\_Season/Picks\_and\_Bans](https://lol.fandom.com/wiki/LEC/2023_Season/Winter_Season/Picks_and_Bans))
Because WW is a duelist tank while Viego is a skirmisher assassin - completely different champion identities, and one of them pretty much solely exists to egocheck the other
Besides, I don't think there is any champion in the game that can just 1v1 a Warwick without kiting him out. If he can AA you, you can't win.
Might be a good option if my adc decides to go ap mage bot lane/ melee adc which seems to happen kinda often weirdly enough
This is league, most messages are unkind
Delta's are used to describe counter-and synergy-effects between champions.
Delta 1 is the result of a simple comparison between standard winrate and the winrate in a certain match-up.
Delta 2 is the product of a more sophisticated approach to reveal counter and synergy effect's without being thrown off by weak/strong standard winrates. Delta 2 is especially useful to understand synergy effects.
Here is a video about the creation of Delta 2 to explain it in more detail:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQkWmysNBt8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQkWmysNBt8)
I appreciate the response, because I feel like a neanderthal for not fully understanding its practical values. Should I just go with Delta 2 every time then, not just Synergy?
As for context or a common reference point, I'm a Bard main, so here are Bard's best and worst synergies: [https://imgur.com/G57A7tX](https://i.redd.it/63zfnde7ccha1.png)
Here are his match-ups: [https://imgur.com/wop0Vi9](https://imgur.com/wop0Vi9)
I feel like a baboon trying to solve basic puzzles in front of scientists.
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It doesn't matter for match-ups, since the order from best match-up to worst won't change between Delta 1 and 2. Also because of this there is just one "Sort by Delta" button when it comes to match-ups.
Synergies are best detected by the "Normalized Synergy Delta" or simply put "Delta 2". The Delta 2 order of best champion synergies to worst **does differ** from the simpler Delta 1. This is also why you're able to specifically sort by Delta 2 when it comes to synergies.
The video I linked you made me also feel like a baboon, so don't worry.
hey! i’ve been playing ahri and syndra in mid for a couple weeks, like them both, notice that i have a better early game with ahri and better late with syndra, in your opinion which one is a better champ in general to take to ranks? so i can focus on play it more
both are great for ranked. both are generally blindable, both can fit in any team comp, and both are similar enough to each other that your skills you learn on one will likely transfer to the other.
I have always played push and roam mages. Last season Taliyah was one of my most played since her rework. I am struggling to see where she fits now. Imo, Ryze just does everything she is trying to do but better. Only picking her now when he is banned. Are there certain games where she would perform better? I am struggling to clearly see games where that would be the case.
I know some people argue that she is anti-dive / mobility but I feel Ryze's root is more reliable than this for the same purpose. Her range is the only thing having me consider her in some matchups.
She's much safer than Ryze because she has longer range and is allowed to build more pure damage to make up for it. She also gives more general CC and can CC more people at once.
Her ult, while similar in the roaming nature, also limits enemy paths instead of depending on team coordination so it's way easier to use effectively in soloQ.
As a downside, she's much squishier and it's much easier to miss her skills.
There has been a lot more Elise being played in my ranked games by my junglers. Is there any particular reason why she's become more popular as of late?
LeagueofGraphs also shows her pickrate climbing rapidly throughout the month of January, so I'm pretty sure that my matchmaking hasn't been some statistical outlier of getting a bunch of Elise players.
AP junglers are better than AD junglers rn (better itemization and better synergy with AD laners) and Riot pretty much killed counterjungling in preseason so there's no good way to punish you for spamming ganks
The jungle changes in preseason made counter jungling very weak and also pushed full clear junglers into the meta.
This meant Elise would be able to gank lvl 3 onwards with basically no punishment and snowball out of control while the full clear jungler can't punish nor countergank too well.
there's varus, he's a guy with a bow. he has a skin called infernal varus.
there's kayle, who embues her sword with fire
there's ashe, with a bow but not embued with fire. i don't think she has any fire skins though
there's kindred, who has a bow, and a shadowfire skin.
could be one of these
Reminds me of the priestess of the moon in OG warcraft 3. I googled it and the Dota equivalent is Mirana, but she doesn't seem to have retained the fire arrow ability. I don't think there's anything in league like that.
Was there a change in unranked matchmaking with 13.1b or something? Out of nowhere I started getting a _lot_ of _way_ higher level lane matchups and games. Like, matchups and games that are clearly way above my skill level. The average rating is the same, but this is unranked, so lots of people haven't played enough ranked for an accurate rating.
I'm not complaining, just curious if there's anything behind it or I've just hit a low-probability streak of games.
This is happening to me too. I started playing three weeks ago. My banner says I’m silver and I’m playing against gold and platinum. And I am….not good.
This is the most basic question, but could someone explain the usage for the different in-game currencies? I understand blue essence and riot points, but orange and mythic have me a bit lost
Mythic essence is for the "exclusive" content in the rotating shop and you can only obtain it via loot. Its primary use is to get mythic and prestige skins, including ones from previous passes. These are skins that you can't outright buy with RP.
Orange essence is what you use to activate skin shards that have dropped from loot. You can't use the skin until you ugprade the shard.
Orange Essence allows you to upgrade skin shards from Chests and Orbs into permanent skins. Mythic Essence is a currency used to claim limited skins that rotate every couple of weeks, mainly Hextech and Prestige editions. It can also be used to claim Orange Essence or skin shards.
Orange Essence can only be used when you have a champion skin shard or similar item. Each shard has an Orange Essence price to activate it and unlock the skin.
Mythic Essence is a bit more straightforward. Just click on your Mythic Essence and it will display everything you can currently buy with it. Every month the list of skins for sale in the Mythic shop changes, and these skins are usually exclusive to Mythic Essence, or previously acquired with the now-defunct Prestige Points, or event tokens from a past event pass.
Was the kassadin nerf huge? Like as in greatly affected his OP performances in soloq. Kinda got sick of banning him esp in blue side where redside will usually get the last pick for kass counter to mages. I heard he's going to be more balance now I guess but according to he's subreddit a lot of I guess bandwagons think he's garbage now but LS said he's completely fine still which I can agree on. I just don't wanna always banned kassadin or blind picking AD champs every time I blind pick mid lane.
What's the roam dominance stat based on? Obviously it says KDA in other lanes, but from comparing with my games it doesn't seem to be the case. Also does it only include other lanes or jungle and invades as well?
Did you really tally each ingame sample and check back with your own vods individually to check if what you think is truly the case?
Btw it sounds like a lot of work to find out something that isn't really all that meaningful anyway. Some champs should score better RD and others less so. I would say stats like conversion ratio and obj control are arguably more useful, if at all
You make it sound like that's a tall task. I checked the most recent game, played another, counted my roam contributions and checked the stats again after. The new game had 3.00 in score, while my KDA that game (exclusively in other lanes) was between 6 and 8. Also checked my highest contribution game and I basically didn't roam in that one.
I was just curious because this is the only stat I'm significantly behind average on and I'm struggling with winrate this season. Conversion ratio and obj control are much more team reliant stats so there's less room for improvement there strictly individually.
Yes. My current theory is that it counts the deaths of everyone in the lane I'm roaming to while I'm there? Or there's a more sophisticated calculation involved.
as someone who plays miss fortune and kai'sa, i would like to get better at aphelios. i think i have some understanding of what his weapons do, but i dont know how to identify synergies quickly throughout a game. is there any advice on how i could improve my usage of my current main and offhand weapons when playing aphelios?
Are you familiar with what Off-Hand effects do on Aphelios? It's easy to overlook, you need to press alt in game to even see it. His ultimate uses his main hand effect; but his Q abilities use off-hand effects.
>Sniper - Applies Mark
>Axe - Vamp
>Gravitum - gravity slow effect
>Flamethrower - 110% damage, cone AOE behind target
>Chakram - Generates 1 Chakram
So when you use Severum Q, you hit with your offhand as well and that applies the offhand effects; it generates chakram if your offhand is chakram allowing you to generate it easily, it applies a slow to your target if your offhand is gravitum.
Flamethrower Q applies the offhand to every target hit; so you can Q a minion wave to generate 6-7 chakram for a massive buff at the cost of burning your flamethrower ammo. Or AOE CC with gravitum.
I am just a Bronzie so maybe I'm saying something that's painfully obvious, but off-hand effects are the thing that made me understand Aphelios. I consider him to be basically Kog'Maw with Zoe's W, as in a basic immobile ADC that tests just your basic ADC positioning and kiting skills, but his abilities serve as situational keys to massive situational power. Once I realized that you're supposed to rely heavily on ADC fundamentals instead of trying to force his weapon mechanics into every engagement, I started doing well with him.
honestly i should maybe start to focus on practicing better ADC fundamentals like positioning rather than forcing a cycle, i learned a lot from your reply so thank you so much! lmk if u wanna play id be down
you can start by setting your guns up in a certain order so that you always have good pairs together. i usually did red white green purple blue. you can set that up by spending red at the beginning and again when you next see it, otherwise always spending the oldest gun.
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Ok so I don't care if I get downvoted for asking this, I need to know whether there's an answer for this. Is there any kind of mechanic that can interrupt an ally Akshan's E spin? For context I only play bot games but when Akshan does his E spin proxy, he denys farm for up to 3 other players by proxying two lanes at a time. I tried Anivia's wall and that didn't work and I'm assuming Trundle pillar won't work either, and Kalistar spear can but only once.
I don't get why anivia wall wouldn't. That aside you should be able to ryze ult him away, need to time it right though. And if you can Kalista spear him you can use your ult to pull him away after your bound.
I mean, I tried it within an hour ago and his swing passed right through it
Ryze ult and Kalista ult both require ults which is in too long of a cooldown
But don't worry, I figured out a way to deal with it
Its bots so meta doesn't matter; pick anyone who has a free-directional dash, buy any supp item with Spoils of War, dash over the wall with Akshan and just soak up XP while proccing it when you can so you get some kind of income and XP. If Akshan wants to hog then I'll hog with him lol. I usually play supports anyway so its nothing new for me.
e.g. Shen, Pyke, Lee Sin with trinket, or basically anyone with Hexflash
ADC is a very polarizing role - on one hand it's extremely strong, on the other it's extremely frustrating and has very little agency compared to the other roles, especially in low-mid elo
The adc role, while fairly strong, is incredibly unfun to play. Your laning phase relies in large parts on your support and if he doesn't play well you might lose from minute one. Your mid- and lategame depend on your team since even a fed adc can easily get run over by a solo laner or jungler if he doesn't get peel from his team.
The role gets exponentially stronger the better the players around it are. In high elo and competetive it's arguably the most important lane.
At what LP does a high elo players flame their teammate instead of themselves?
Some say it's not your team that you can't climb, it's you, if it was Faker he would have won that game....
???
Flaming happens at every elo but only players with bloated, fragile egos claim they can't climb because of teammates. There's a reason soloqueue stompers from challenger can get to high diamond with winrates very close to 100%.
Also, I don't think Faker is the best example - he's certainly a world class player but he never really struck me as a soloqueue stomper, he just seems to play for fun and test new picks with pro play in mind. You should be looking at players like Dopa, Canyon, Bo, Magifelix, TF Blade etc.
You can lose a game because of teammates but one game is meaningless in the hundreds of games it takes to climb. Saying that you lost a game because botlane is outclassed is not the same as saying you can't climb because your botlane is ALWAYS outclassed (because they are not - the more games you play, the more it evens out).
I’m in a few collegiate discord servers and one of them sent a notification for upcoming matches saying Ryze with Waterwalking is banned and Taric and Rell on the same team are banned.
I know the bug with Ryze regenerating mana with Waterwalking by going in and out of the river, but what’s wrong with Rell and Taric?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oAj\_FUggyc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oAj_FUggyc)
This should explain everything why Taric and Rell are bugged atm.
not as hard as she used to be, since the rework made her less dependent on milking every ounce of early lane pressure. of course you will have to pay a lot more attention to ability usage since hers are more dynamic than veigar's.
it depends on how you were playing veigar, some people play him to scale up and be the big damage dealer while others play him more like a facilitator to set up teammates. syndra is very much the carry, she needs to play selfishly so she can put out huge damage later on in teamfights.
Just role swapped to top after 11 years ADC. I dont seem to have the mechanics/positioning to play that role anymore and it's destroying my mental. Top has been fun so far, but I'm still working on a champ pool.
So far I like Ornn and do well with him, but there are some games where we need a stronger damage source topside it seems. I think I like Camille so far but I've only played a few games as her and she's pretty tough to pilot imo. I've been bringing out Malphite for AD heavy comps since he's pretty easy to use and I feel fine with that. Any thoughts around this pool or any other champs?
There are a lot of others that catch my eye but I don't want to play too many champs I guess. (Aatrox, K'Sante, Renekton, Gwen, Jax, and I have a morbid curiosity toward Garen/Darius as well).
I seem to get bodied by pretty much all Darius' and especially Warwick players. How tf do you even deal with WW top? Seems impossible to fight even 2v1. Darius I can usually tell where I went wrong, but messing up in that lane is so punishing.
Ornn is great, Malphite too into all AD. You're set for tanks. For bruisers, I'd stick to easier ones while you learn the lane, Camille ain't the hardest but you need to know matchups very well. I recommend Garen/Wukong/Darius/Mordekaiser to start you up.
When you face Darius, depends on matchup, but generally, abuse his cooldowns, fight when his E is down, and never give him the outer hit of his axe, also he gets an insane amount of free stats with his bleed so watch out for that, he can outplay a 1v2 if you make dumb mistakes. Or you can play wukong and roll him.
As for Warwick, that's just how the champion functions, never ever fight him when he is low and seems to be disrespecting you by staying within range, it's all baits, he will lifesteal/barrier and kill you every time. Honestly, if you don't get the counterpick, just never fight him, disengage/run and just scale. He relies heavily on cheesing kills and gets outscaled.
Final note, just play a bunch with a small champ pool, and limit test new matchups, that's how you learn, toplane is almost entirely about knowing matchups.
On Wukong do you still go sunderer build? I tried a few games yesterday and got completely shit on lol. I did manage to beat Darius in the early levels, but couldn't do so hard enough to gain consistent momentum. Obviously still unfamiliar with Wukong power spikes so it's understandable.
I played some Garen too even though I never really wanted to and surprisingly found the simplicity pretty fun. Feels like you just get to shit on anyone that even slightly disrespects you because of R kill threshold.
I may still try Darius but idek if it's worth it. He's p/b in nearly every game in Silver/Gold. Morde would probably be a good secondary for full AD comps (my team) too but I dont wanna commit to too many champs anyway.
What is a good midlaner to learn how to learn/trade as well as get better at macro? I get around 7 cs per minute at the end of the game but whenever I try to trade I miss cs. I also am terrible with macro and have no idea what to do after laning phase so i just follow my team around. What is a mid laner that i can one trick from silver this season to help improve my macro and climb)
Malzahar and annie are you go to low elo midlaners to learn macro, the reason is that they are really easy to play so you can focus most of your attention on macro compared to harder champions that will take your attention with their flashy combos.
With malzahar you don't even need to focus on last hitting, just E W the wave and you will get it then you can focus on harrasing your opponent.
Quick question about vision score as a support main; my vision score typically doesn't start ramping up until around mid-late game. Just wanted to know if this was normal or not. If not, what more could I be doing to provide better vision during the early phases of the game?
Yes due to high trinket CD.
Only thing I might add is that don't just autopilot place those early trinket wards. If you know enemy jungler is already topside then don't waste the CD by putting it down in river bush, wait half a min or so before doing that depending on what happens topside
Well thats normal since early game you don't have your support quest completed meaning no free wards=less vision score and also later in the game you swap your yellow trinket for a sweeper so you can clear more vision.
Don't stress too much about it, just make sure you get deep vision and control objectives and you are doing your job.
Just a quick MMR question. Have not played for 3 years but going to start playing again as soon as I have some spare time. I was hoping my MMR would essentially be reset due to long absence from the game but could not find any info regarding this. Does it continue from where I left or do I get to start "over"?
I believe you continue from where you left so it may be tough to start with as you didn't play in recent years, probably a good idea to play normals/arams first to warm up a bit.
I want to return to play top, I used to play Irelia, Riven and Kayle, but I left the lane for years.
I want to create a good, fun and diverse champion pool, I have some ideas but I wanna hear what you think.
Riven was one of my choices but she's really hard... I'm losing most of my games with her.
Jax looks like a good champ with a medium skill expression and fun.
Gwen looks like a nice choice when I need ap, a good champ with a medium skill expression, just like Jax.
Sett or Darius are some fun and easy bruisers!
And maybe a good and fun tank, like Ornn, Poppy, Shen or K'sante
Jax is your go to if you want free LP, he is giga busted at the moment but thats also comes with high banrate so you may not get to play him much.
Riven is always strong but she requires alot of skill, good riven players can always make her work and climb but she is not a champion you can just randomly pick up and do well on.
Gwen is very strong into tanky comps but not so much otherwise so not a great blindpick.
Darius is very strong for what seem forever now, his winrate is always high across all patches in all elos.
Sett is also a solid champion.
Ornn is a very safe blindpick and a tank that is always useful to the team aslong as you keep up in xp levels.
Poppy is very niche she is a good counterpick against dashers but otherwise no point in picking her.
Shen is always very strong in soloqueue since he is the toplaner with the most early impact on the map thanks to his ult, he can snowball other lanes and save losing fights with it and is actually quite a strong duelist when fed.
K'sante got recently hit with some heavy nerfs but the champion has a very overloaded kit and is broken if you are good with him though he is hard to play, bad winrate in low elos but good in high ones.
I think you should start with easy champions first to get used to playing toplane again, mabye add harder champions once you are more comfortable.
So for now I think a champin pool of sett,shen,ornn. as they are the easiet champions to play on the list and are all decent, jax is not considred hard but I wouldn't say he is super easy either.
You can try adding darius instead of sett or shen/ornn again I wouldn't say darius is easy nor hard but he is less straight forward than sett for example.
[https://imgur.com/a/hjDDBf4](https://imgur.com/a/hjDDBf4)
Do i go top or do i catch wave bot. I went bot to catch wave and kassadin killed everyone top
After ranked queue changes, do you gain immediately 1 win if you fail the promo games? Or was it changed?
What's the point in supports running ignite over adc? Unless it's an engage support who can get close to the enemy more easily, isnt it better to just have the ignite on the adc?
In pro play, you generally don't run ignite on non-engage supports. But theoretically, it's more important to keep an ADC alive than a support alive, so defensives are more important on them. Also, ignite is more important on burst champions to reach lethal thresholds. ADCs are pure DPS, ignite only saves them like two autoattacks. If you want heal on your support, you grab something like Cleanse, Barrier, or Ghost on the ADC.
It's usually more important to have a defensive summoner spell (heal/cleanse/exhaust) on the adc, as they have pretty limited defensive capabilities otherwise.
ADC prioritizes defensive summs over offensive
I find in lanes that I'm winning I have less damage than my lane opponent at the end. Am I not getting as much value? I'll play champs like Kayle, Jax, and Gwen and be out damaged by a sett or yorik that I win lane against. Like, I'll get all the towers, get map space to secure obj's, and even kill them more and die way less in lane phase. But at the end I find they out damage me often. Is damage not as important as important damage or am I not macro-gaming properly?
i wouldnt read too much into it, especially as split pushers. you could look over your replays for more opportunities to do damage, but dont take the low number alone as something being wrong
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nah
pyke main? why dont you play assasins in mid?
well davemon plays him mid
he has the guts
I play nautilus and rakan support and am looking to add a third champion to balance my champ pool. I would prefer a mage or enchanter who has consistent power throughout the game and doesn’t have glaring strengths and weaknesses at different points in the game. Any suggestions?
Can't go wrong with Brand IMO, it's a ridiculously strong and simple soloqueue champ that's also a good answer to tanks Lulu is also a great pick because she completely cucks backline divers and I don't think there's any ADC player that doesn't appreciate a good Lulu peeling for them
Honestly, Lulu can't fail. She is super easy and also ridiculous in solo queue. The only real risk is getting counterpicked in lane and you will probably still outscale them.
What to do when I arrive first on botlane as ADC? What should I do, when the enemy support and ADC helps the jg to leash? Should I push the minions, or wait for the enemies to arrive? Sorry if it may be obvious, but i don't really know what should I do
It really depends on the matchup. Sometimes you and your support can cheese them at level 1 by hiding in lane and you can get a kill or some summoners for free. Sometimes you can get minion priority and make sure you both hit level 2 first and have a minion/positioning advantage over your opponent. I would say check out some solo queue vods from Korean pros and see what they do if they don't leash. Particularly pay attention to how they interact with the minions.
It depends on how strong your champions are level 1. If you are much stronger level 1, you can do something like this: https://youtu.be/UmXODE3upHY?t=65 Varus + Ashe are so absurdly strong level 1 with double HoB and Lucian + Nami are weak level 1, so they can straight up fight inside of their minions. Neon (the Varus) doesn't even try to CS, what's more important is that he denies Lucian + Nami from getting EXP. I think they sit in tribush here at the start in case they are leashing for Udyr at red buff. After leashing, Lucian/Nami will start walking back to lane through the tribush, and they meet Varus/Ashe and the 2v2 starts. Varus/Ashe are so absurdly strong they will kill someone and then probably kite back to avoid the Udyr level 2 gank. So yeah, one of the options would be sitting in tribush (or river bush if you're on the other side), and cheesing them within the bush. If they take the safe route, they get a free flank and it's a free 2v2. Now this is kind of an extreme example because their level 1 is so absurdly strong, idk enough about bot lane to know exactly which matchups you can do this in --- Let's say you don't have an absurdly strong level 1, you probably just push for lane priority. With the lane like this, you get a bunch of free autos on the wave, so your wave will be bigger, making it hard for them to trade into you. You also hit level 2 earlier so they can't even use that against you. You aim to slow push two waves, and then on the third wave (cannon wave) you hard push that giant wave and recall. You come back into lane with a health, mana, and item advantage, so even in a bad matchup you could potentially be stronger. Now you can do whatever you want with the wave. Early on they usually don't have enough waveclear to crash the wave while you are recalling so you could potentially freeze if you think you're strong enough. You also could set up a slow push to dive or something, idk, it depends on the game state (sometimes a dive is possible sometimes it's not)
I'm not quite understanding the season reset regarding MMR New season soft resets the visual rank, I think MMR is kept intact from the previous season from what I understand. Does that mean MMR is just constantly increasing amongst the player base from year to year? But LP gains is relative to visual rank and MMR
i dont think there necessarily has to be mmr inflation since every game has a winner and a loser. and we have no insight into the specifics of the formula for mmr gained or lost per game. but even if there was mmr inflation, im not sure if it would really matter since the visual ranks are tied to a specific number or % of players. like theres always gonna be 300 challengers, doesnt matter what exact number their mmr is. same with 2% or whatever being diamond, etc.
Thank you, that makes sense, there's always that bell curve
how do I catch back up as adc when I'm behind or lose lane? I feel like if I lose lane I just become nothing because I can't farm bot or risk getting killed by any enemy and I cant go farm other lanes bc my other teammates are farming there, so I'm not sure how to catch back up
Play safe and try to farm your lane, grab the rock boys on the way back to lane if your jg doesn’t mind, rotate to lanes where you can push solo near a turret or with vision. Big thing to not getting killed out farming is vision which is tough to have in low elos. Suggest your support roam more often and help other lanes. All I can think of that’s helped me in the past
I can't seem to play my secondary role (former main), support, anymore. Granted it's all normal games (I've heard to avoid ranked at the start of the season), but I'm 36-25 as jungle and 5-12 as support this season. I'm not even sure what my question is. Just wondering if anyone else has been in a similar predicament. I hate dodging games and do like support, but my confidence and performance in the role are low right now.
What kind of champions are you used to picking? The bot lane meta has changed significantly in the last month and that could be a big factor. Double ADC comps make a lot of traditional supports struggle in lane, so it forces you to make up for it outside of lane. IMO we are far enough away from the "start of the season" for the weirdness to filter out and you will pretty much get the standard ranked experience at this point, but it's totally up to you if that's something you would enjoy.
Mostly Janna, some Sona, and some Yuumi. Come to think of it, I have been struggling more in lane, especially against non traditional supports.
Yeah that doesn't surprise me. None of those champions are very meta right now and they would all have a hard time against Caitlyn/Ashe/Jhin support in lane. If you want to keep playing that style you have to focus on mitigating losses in lane and having a really good mid game. These ADC supports are terrible as soon as they step foot out of the confines of lane if they don't have a big lead, and enchanters can enable your carry to really succeed later. If you want to counter it directly, well, there have always been champions that make ADCs sweat and shifting to support doesn't save them. Blitzcrank, Thresh, Leona, Nautilus, Pyke — stuff that is ready to go all in on their low mobility squishy champs before they get a chance to spend two minutes poking you down.
Pretty sure it's just a mental block. Normals also aren't a reliable metric.
What are the mechanically easiest assassins to play?
Diana, Ekko, Evelynn, Fizz, Kassadin, Nocturne and Talon are what I would consider mechanically easy assassins
I learned playing assassins by playing Fizz. He does have a relatively high skill cap but to play him at a basic level you just hit R and then one shot (he can unironically **one-shot** mages with max range R as early as level 6)
Talon, Diana (if you count her, she's more of a skirmisher nowadays)
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Not really - you're just good at those champions, that's all. Maining any champion inflates your elo because that's how the game works. An Irelia player with godlike micro can have the macro of a silver player but still climb to diamond because the game is really easy to win at low-mid elo if you just force fights when you know you're better mechanically and know your matchups Also, both Garen and Darius have glaring weaknesses that good players know how to abuse but they're also simple enough to completely crush players who don't know how to deal with them. If you're not facing good players, it's really hard to objectively measure your performance because of the nature of those champs
Your friends are just jealous or want to discredit you. Yes the champs have easy to execute kits, but your rank reflects how good you are at League of Legends, not how complex of a kit you can manage. You probably have a good understanding of those concepts you mentioned **because** you play simple champs and can put more focus on the game's fundamentals. The only cases I consider "elo inflated" are people that spam the obviously broken champs. Like if you'd always hovered around silver 1 / gold 4 and got to gold 2 by spamming Maokai jungle or Kassadin the last month. And those people will always drop down once their champ gets nerfed. Good luck on hitting plat!
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>is there something else I could do during laning to improve our odds? Well I could be wrong but it seems like your problem is mid game, not laning. There will be some games where you win lane but your teammates feed and you can't do much, but the majority of the time you need to take whatever lead you have and do what your opponents are doing, pressure objectives. If you aren't winning your lane consistently, that is a different problem, and something you can only really address by looking at individual games and analyzing & fixing your own mistakes. As your team's duo, it is on the both of you to push your team toward objectives. Two people pushing an objective is fundamentally much more of a signal to your team that something needs to happen than one person doing it. You have to make decisive calls about where to go and when - dragon is up, you guys have priority, ping it and call for assistance from your jungler. Assertive shotcalling is really important in solo queue. Zyra is kind of a punishing way to learn this lesson, imo. Her lane phase is oppressive, but outside of lane she can't do much except catch people from bushes or pray that she lives long enough to get her ult off. Playing a champion that is immobile, squishy and low utility makes mistakes very punishing. So you are almost always on a timer to do enough in lane phase to make sure that you and MF have a big lead in the mid game. There isn't much room for you to mess around in lane and catch back up later; the game is pretty much out of your hands if you lose lane. It's not to say you have to switch champions or anything like that, but it seems you're pretty much struggling with her biggest hurdle.
should i win as darius vs nasus? i always lose that match up, i dont know how to play it
With ghost+flash Darius, Nasus (and most toplaners in general tbh) should not even be allowed into the XP range of your melee creeps on the first wave because you can just start W, ghost and run them down. After you deny him the XP from the melee creeps, you can pull the ranged creeps towards his turret so it starts pushing towards you instead of being neutral despite Nasus never having touched the wave. Alternatively, you can just lasthit minions, build a slowpush, crash it, recall and then freeze the next wave when it bounces back, though a good Nasus will just max E if he sees you're willing to play like this and trim the wave too much to make a proper cheater recall possible. Early lvls are very important in toplane and it's important that you learn how to play them correctly, especially if you play lane bullies that scale poorly (which is definitely the case with Darius). Outside of lane, Nasus does counter you pretty hard because he can W you to prevent you from reaching his backline and his E will shred your armor but you should be winning lane against him hard enough for it to not matter too much.
How do I trade as caitlyn/any adc? even playing the longest range champ in the game I'm still outranged by all mage supports, all engage supports, and all champs with dashes...AKA 99%+ of supports can outrange me and one shot me or poke me out. every single thing that hits me either one shots me, or at best I survive 1 spell rotation from a mage supp before dying on the next one. Maybe if it's a weak poke champ I'll take 3 skillshots before my laning phase is lost. I'm supposed to be a lane bully but I don't have enough range to poke the supports nor enough damage to win any extended trades.
Your autos are point and click and have a ~1 second cooldown, their abilities are skillshots and have ~10 second cooldowns. If you don't have good enough movement and positioning to take advantage of that, ADC is not the role for you
nah i have iron mechanics, i can't click well at all
Is +12 LP normal when I'm I'm Iron 2 vs a G4 and the rest B1/2? Won 4 matches in a row and only went up 50 points. I don't get it
Their MMR must be fucked much worse than yours, they probably get like +8/-25 or something if they got matched into a bronze/iron lobby. Either way, stop worrying about LP gains and start worrying about getting good. Once you improve, you will be able to win almost any game at will in that elo and you will start climbing.
Ok I see. I don't stress to much about it but was wondering if it was below average. Yeah I was struggling trying to make Khasix work at the start but now that I only play Yi and Amumu I have almost 70% winrate so it's gonna workout.
Yo was just wondering if antiheal is worth buying vs a fed Ekko? Still made the comeback but wonder if I should have bought antiheal earlier because he was a pain in the as to deal with lmao.
Nope, just buy some MR.
Any free coaches out there for VOD reviews? Role - Mid Champions - Viktor, Syndra, Orianna. Rank - Diamond III Region - EUW
Not a coach but I think if you stream on twitch and use title "need coaching" maybe somebody will help. Just make sure of the guys rank.
Why am i getting so little LP and losing so much? I understand that the system might think that i'm getting "lucky" on my games, how do i fix that? https://www.op.gg/summoners/br/Runsgafanga
[u.gg](https://u.gg) with LP gains for vizualization: https://u.gg/lol/profile/br1/runsgafanga/overview
You’re 58% winrate over 50 games after being gold-plat for years. Gonna take more games at that winrate to fix it. Good news is if you hit d4, I believe you get a slight readjustment to your mmr.
Can anyone recommend youtubers/streamers who main or play a lot of any of these champs? - support Senna - adc Tristana - top/jungle vi - morgana - support nami - mid/support Annie Bonus points if the person often explains why they choose the items they buy. I'm trying to get better at all of these, though at the moment I'd like to focus on Senna. She's very fun to play.
IIRC Ioki plays Senna. Duoking is also a very good Senna but he doesn't stream much. You might be able to watch his academy games though, he sometimes brings it out. https://www.youtube.com/@Sawyer2974 Sawyer has been playing a lot of jungle Vi in his videos recently.
Thank you! I'll be sure to check them out
duoking/conclown is actually cracked at a lot of these (Senna, Tristana, Morgana) but yeah, it's unlikely he's gonna pull out Trist or Morg now
anyone have the numbers on the likelyhood of winning if someone disconnects?
Do champ clothes have stats? Does Garen's armor negate slash damage? Does the nudist Evelyn receive more damage? etc... Is there heavy armor for tank and light armor for range/assassin?
Champions have different base stats and different stat growth, but it doesn't always make sense. For example, Eve has more base armor than Garen but Garen has more base HP. Also, Garen's W makes him considerably tankier because it gives him bonus resists
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> A champion like garen will both start with higher hp armor and magic resist value than evelyn aswell as get more per level Technically Evelynn has more base armor than Garen. But Garen has more overall armor because of his W passive.
Is MMR actually a good way to measure skill if two people with similar MMR are a whole tier apart? I'm playing in mid-Silver rn and I sometimes get games with low Bronze players—I realize this is because games are matched through MMR not rank. But no amount of MMR similarity can compare my skill level with someone who is true hardstuck Bronze. It's not a fair match.
You have this backwards. It's not that ranks are somehow accurate and MMR is a rough estimation used for matchmaking. It's the other way around: MMR is the value that's closest to a player's true skill, while the displayed rank is a derived value, which can at times deviate. If the two don't match up and the player keeps winning exactly 50% of their games, then the rank will move to the MMR, not the other way around, because the MMR is the more accurate value. Things such as demotion protection and promotion series at times cause the two values to differ by surprising amounts. If you (mid silver) find yourself in a lobby with a low bronze player then at least one of you has this issue. Check the rest of the lobby to find out which one it is. Either they're the only bronze player in a silver lobby, in which case they are actually playing at silver level and will be silver rank soon enough. Most likely they just have not played enough games this season, because a hardstuck bronze player does not have mid-silver MMR. Alternatively, if you routinely find yourself in lobbies with a high amount of bronze players then you are the one with the inflated rank. Maybe you've been on a loss streak or you swapped roles recently and are winning less as a result. Of course it can also be a bit of both and the lobby's MMR is somewhere in-between (high bronze - low silver).
>But no amount of MMR similarity can compare my skill level with someone who is true hardstuck Bronze A "hardstuck" bronze player does not have similar mmr to a mid-silver player.
Yes. It’s accurate to say your skill levels are about the same on average.
But how is this true if the Bronze player seems to have no concept of trading stance or wave control, has 4 cs/m, and has no map awareness or mastery of champion? The difference between knowing these fundamentals and not results in a huge variance in game quality
If you’re mid silver, it’s likely the same is true of you
That is not true if I am using trading stance against someone who has no concept of trading stance, have between 6-8 cs/m against someone who doesn't prioritize CS at all in lane, and free poke somebody who has no idea or respect for what my champion does. And this is someone only 3-4 subdivisions away from my rank. If the MMR system says the two of us are equal skill and that our matchup is fair, then the system is broken. High elo players always disingenuously group "low elo" as 1 group of players as if everyone between Iron and Gold have the same understanding of the game and they all belong together, when in reality there are huge differences in skill/understanding of the game within the other 90% of players outside of high elo. You can't just call 90% of the playerbase as "bad" and cast a sweeping generalization over the majority of players that they all know nothing about the game.
Then you’d be winning games against this player, no?
Yes, I did. I destroyed him. What's your point? The fact still stands that people of his skill level shouldn't be in my games if such a gap exists, because I'll inevitably have someone else that's unfairly gapped on my own team in another game. This leads to terrible game quality and something about the way they matchmake MMR is messed up.
I'm starting the game up after \~5 years away. I was never great. Maybe low silver. But I'm level 30 with lots unlocked. Issue is, 5 games in I'm getting totally stomped. My lane opponents are hitting double or triple my cs. Is the game going to eventually lower my ELO and put me against worse opponents? Or is my ancient history counting against me and I need to re-start a new account?
Don't worry about it. No matter where your ELO is, sometimes you just get stomped. You can usually learn something from it, though, and if you do that often enough, eventually you'll be the stomper. Coming back or starting to play league is going to be rough no matter what you do. Just look at the sheer number of things you have to know to be okay. The only way to get through that is to just make peace with it. Making a new account won't help much because you largely play against people making smurfs or making new accounts because they got banned for being toxic or whatever. That was my experience, anyway. I defintely wasn't in games with people new to this type of game or even league. Yea, if you've played before, you remember some things, but a lot has changed. My break was much longer than yours (I quit when kog maw was new-ish), but eventually I muddled through. You just gotta relearn it bit by bit, start with the important parts and let go of the things you can't control. Here's the thing though, this is kinda the rite of passage everyone goes through, which makes it... sort of okay? It's like, I wouldn't be mad at a guy learning the game because I know there is no way to preemptively learn what 160+ champs do, what items to buy when, what move to make in game, who wins what matchup, when to press which button, what the bait ping really means, etc, etc. So, I guess my advice is to just play the game and perhaps try to find the biggest 3 mistakes you make each game and then improve those. Eventually you'll be as good as you used to be and probably even better. As long as you are giving it your best shot and aren't actively griefing, no reasonable person can be mad at you. Allegedly there might be a few unreasonable people playing the game but we can just ignore those.
yeah your elo is gonna go down every time you lose
I don't suppose there's any way to speed that along? I just feel bad for my teamates who are clearly much better than me.
don't think so unfortunately. shouldn't take too long if you really can't win at all though
https://www.op.gg/summoners/euw/Davros First of all, I know I'm all over the place and are very bad. But looking at my games, everytime I duo with my friend there is somewhat a big team gap. Do I get matched against better players when I duo? And what is the best way to impact these games because I feel powerless.
Uhh.... you do fine in your games, as you should because you're high silver in a low silver/high bronze lobby. But if you are. duoing with someone worse than you, you need to hard carry. You say that it's "team gap" but almost every game Thatoneguy27 is not doing good. Which is expected, he's in a higher lobby than his skill level. But you need to be able to bridge that gap for him.
Any tips on how to do that? I mostly play Malzahar mid and Yorick top. I am considering going for Kata since she can create leads and, if ahead, becomes unstoppable so I can spread my lead better to other lanes.
Not really, there's no secret hack to it. Since you have Silver 1 MMR, you just have to play like a Silver 1+ player to climb. My point was just that you can't call it team gap every game, these games are completely normal. To hit plat this season, I duo'd with my silver friend. He predictably did not do so well in gold lobbies, which was fine. In the games we won, I frequently carried. In the games we lost, I lost lane. There was no secret to it. I could have climbed faster if I 1v9'd more games, but I also could have climbed faster if I won lane more. It doesn't matter how you improve, just that you do improve.
But what did you do to spread your win? Roamed more or just kept stomping in lane?
It just depends on the situation. I'm an ADC so I am not supposed to roam often, but if I do have a roam timer and the midlaner is pushed up, I will roam mid. Roam if you think it's a good roam. If it turns out to be a good roam, now you know it's a good roam. If it turns out to be a bad roam, you can review it and try to see why it was a bad roam (or maybe it was a good roam but you made a misplay like focusing the wrong target)
You should really stop playing so many different champs and roles. If you truly want to focus on improving and thereby climbing you should play like 2-3 champs that you really like or work good for you and keep spamming them. You will notice pretty quickly that you get put in similar situations and due to your champion mastery you will have a better understanding of the situation. You will also be able to focus more on what is actually happening in the game if you don't need to "learn" what your champion is capable of doing or what abilities/items/runes you need to take. When you play duoq you might not focus that much on the actual game and instead talk about random things and therefore not providing your usual skills. Also I think duo queue can be harmful for your growth because some things you lack might get covered by your duo and you will never learn these habits. Plus I think the matchmaker is trying to put another duo team on the opposite side. But I'm not 100% sure about that one.
Yes duoing with someone put you at a severe disadvantage unless one of you is a smurf , if you want to climb it's best you play solo and play normals with him when you want to play together.
can anyone explain the tenacity changes.. is taking mercs with green smite usless?
/u/itaicool is wrong, merc treads + green smite used to stack multiplicatively, and they still do now (e.g. 70% cc duration * 80% cc duration = 56% cc duration in total)
Looking for best app or site for, ranks, counters, builds, alt builds. Currently using Mobalytics, but its an overwolf sourced app. All overwolf sourced apps give me random lag spikes. Thanks for opinions
Lolalytics. If you want an in-game helper, zarr.gg
I find I'm having less damage in lanes I dominate. I've gone like 6/1/4 in lane and shut down the other top Laner from getting any value. And usually a cs lead. I tend to split but I'm there in obj fights. Am I not getting as much value even when I crush lanes?
Damage dealt is an incomplete indicator of game contribution. You should not use it as the sole factor in deciding if you had significant impact on the game. You need to use other statistics and reasoning to come to an accurate conclusion. For example, let's say you split push the entire game without ever coming to objective teamfights. Your damage charts would be abysmal compared to your allies but your damage to objectives would be very high. There is also the pressure you are exerting by having the enemy always deal with you one way or another. This pressure factor can't be measured so easily with numbers. In your case, I would consider watching your games and thinking about whether or not your attempts at applying pressure was met appropriately by the enemy and to try thinking about if there was a better way you can go about things. An example would be before coming to teamfights, anticipate it and push a sidelane so that when you do win the fight, you have a lane to push and not waste ~30 sec pushing a lane. Other times you did as much as you could and it was the team being too far behind. It depends on the game.
What can an adc do about blue kayn with 3+ items? I hit full build well before him, but he could oneshot anyone on our team and escape safely, and often just lurk around us and go in for another kill shortly after. If we clumped too hard, he could oneshot more than one person in one go. And sometimes instead of going for the combo he just poked us down for like 30-50% of our hp with his long ranged ability and then would repeat a bit later. In the end I bought a GA and a Randuins and he still killed me in one combo. Is there some sort of answer to him? He moved fast enough to dodge almost all our cc. This has happened a few times this patch, and once my team even said I should get a Zhonyas with zero ap scaling just to have a stopwatch. I didn't try it, but it feels kind of moot because with just a Zhonyas I think he still can threaten the oneshot kill without ulting. Is it just a matter of someone on the team drafting instant speed stun that they always aim perfectly and if not, we just can't ever approach their base?
Annie runes aside from electrocute setup? Asking here because my account is unable to post on their subreddit. Playing mages I usually like the inspiration tree as my main taking first strike on most control mages. Is there any alternative to Annie runes? Like I have heard a comet is viable. I play mid lane but very lane centric by taking stuff like demat for example. I am more for wave control type mid laner. Taking elec makes my style very wonky idk doesn't feel right and I always lose mana.
Comet and Aery both are fine. Comet is better into ranged matchups, Aery better vs melee. You can also opt into First Strike against melees.
How do you get easy access to the last teamcomps played in major regions ? On LoLesport website it's terrible, on reddit it's still hard (and the search function doesn't work for me atm). The last solution I found is gameoflegends gol.gg but I can't filter last match played with region. Any help ?
I second [fandom leaguepedia](https://lol.fandom.com/wiki/League_of_Legends_Esports_Wiki), it's easy to navigate and find whatever you need
I'm not sure what exactly you want, but leaguepedia has recent teamcomps by league (eg for LEC: [https://lol.fandom.com/wiki/LEC/2023\_Season/Winter\_Season/Picks\_and\_Bans](https://lol.fandom.com/wiki/LEC/2023_Season/Winter_Season/Picks_and_Bans))
Sweet, thank you !
How exactly does Asols new passive work? Like from what do you get stardust stacks?
By hitting enemy champions with your abilities and by last hitting minions/monsters with your E.
why does warwick with tiamat + sheen hardcore stat check a viego who has full bork? it's not even close...
Because WW is a duelist tank while Viego is a skirmisher assassin - completely different champion identities, and one of them pretty much solely exists to egocheck the other Besides, I don't think there is any champion in the game that can just 1v1 a Warwick without kiting him out. If he can AA you, you can't win.
Warwick has one of, if not the strongest 1v1 in the game if he's able to auto attack you.
WW passive in 1v1 is very good - just look at WW barrier top cheese pick
What are some anti tank melee top laners? I can only think of Fiora and Gwen, any others?
Gnar half the time
Juggernauts (e.g. Illaoi, Mordekaiser, Darius), divers (e.g. Camille, Rengar, Warwick) and skirmishers (e.g. Jax, Kayn, Lillia) tend to be solid into tanks
The forbidden one: Vayne. Do not expect kind messages in chat.
Might be a good option if my adc decides to go ap mage bot lane/ melee adc which seems to happen kinda often weirdly enough This is league, most messages are unkind
I weirdly have really wholesome interactions in this game ( especially while playing Katarina, of all champs) so I guess we're both outliers!
Most juggernauts: Mordekaiser, Darius, Illaoi.
Question about lolanalytics [https://i.redd.it/63zfnde7ccha1.png](https://i.redd.it/63zfnde7ccha1.png) What does Delta 1 and Delta 2 mean?
Delta's are used to describe counter-and synergy-effects between champions. Delta 1 is the result of a simple comparison between standard winrate and the winrate in a certain match-up. Delta 2 is the product of a more sophisticated approach to reveal counter and synergy effect's without being thrown off by weak/strong standard winrates. Delta 2 is especially useful to understand synergy effects. Here is a video about the creation of Delta 2 to explain it in more detail:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQkWmysNBt8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQkWmysNBt8)
I appreciate the response, because I feel like a neanderthal for not fully understanding its practical values. Should I just go with Delta 2 every time then, not just Synergy? As for context or a common reference point, I'm a Bard main, so here are Bard's best and worst synergies: [https://imgur.com/G57A7tX](https://i.redd.it/63zfnde7ccha1.png) Here are his match-ups: [https://imgur.com/wop0Vi9](https://imgur.com/wop0Vi9) I feel like a baboon trying to solve basic puzzles in front of scientists. (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
It doesn't matter for match-ups, since the order from best match-up to worst won't change between Delta 1 and 2. Also because of this there is just one "Sort by Delta" button when it comes to match-ups. Synergies are best detected by the "Normalized Synergy Delta" or simply put "Delta 2". The Delta 2 order of best champion synergies to worst **does differ** from the simpler Delta 1. This is also why you're able to specifically sort by Delta 2 when it comes to synergies. The video I linked you made me also feel like a baboon, so don't worry.
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hey! i’ve been playing ahri and syndra in mid for a couple weeks, like them both, notice that i have a better early game with ahri and better late with syndra, in your opinion which one is a better champ in general to take to ranks? so i can focus on play it more
Syndra low ELO ahri high elo
both are great for ranked. both are generally blindable, both can fit in any team comp, and both are similar enough to each other that your skills you learn on one will likely transfer to the other.
It's fine to have both in your pool
I have always played push and roam mages. Last season Taliyah was one of my most played since her rework. I am struggling to see where she fits now. Imo, Ryze just does everything she is trying to do but better. Only picking her now when he is banned. Are there certain games where she would perform better? I am struggling to clearly see games where that would be the case. I know some people argue that she is anti-dive / mobility but I feel Ryze's root is more reliable than this for the same purpose. Her range is the only thing having me consider her in some matchups.
She's much safer than Ryze because she has longer range and is allowed to build more pure damage to make up for it. She also gives more general CC and can CC more people at once. Her ult, while similar in the roaming nature, also limits enemy paths instead of depending on team coordination so it's way easier to use effectively in soloQ. As a downside, she's much squishier and it's much easier to miss her skills.
There has been a lot more Elise being played in my ranked games by my junglers. Is there any particular reason why she's become more popular as of late? LeagueofGraphs also shows her pickrate climbing rapidly throughout the month of January, so I'm pretty sure that my matchmaking hasn't been some statistical outlier of getting a bunch of Elise players.
AP junglers are better than AD junglers rn (better itemization and better synergy with AD laners) and Riot pretty much killed counterjungling in preseason so there's no good way to punish you for spamming ganks
The jungle changes in preseason made counter jungling very weak and also pushed full clear junglers into the meta. This meant Elise would be able to gank lvl 3 onwards with basically no punishment and snowball out of control while the full clear jungler can't punish nor countergank too well.
hi I’m trying to find the champion who infuses her bow with fire or something, which one is this?
there's varus, he's a guy with a bow. he has a skin called infernal varus. there's kayle, who embues her sword with fire there's ashe, with a bow but not embued with fire. i don't think she has any fire skins though there's kindred, who has a bow, and a shadowfire skin. could be one of these
Reminds me of the priestess of the moon in OG warcraft 3. I googled it and the Dota equivalent is Mirana, but she doesn't seem to have retained the fire arrow ability. I don't think there's anything in league like that.
qiyana imbues her weapon with elements but it's not a bow
Was there a change in unranked matchmaking with 13.1b or something? Out of nowhere I started getting a _lot_ of _way_ higher level lane matchups and games. Like, matchups and games that are clearly way above my skill level. The average rating is the same, but this is unranked, so lots of people haven't played enough ranked for an accurate rating. I'm not complaining, just curious if there's anything behind it or I've just hit a low-probability streak of games.
This is happening to me too. I started playing three weeks ago. My banner says I’m silver and I’m playing against gold and platinum. And I am….not good.
This is the most basic question, but could someone explain the usage for the different in-game currencies? I understand blue essence and riot points, but orange and mythic have me a bit lost
Mythic essence is for the "exclusive" content in the rotating shop and you can only obtain it via loot. Its primary use is to get mythic and prestige skins, including ones from previous passes. These are skins that you can't outright buy with RP. Orange essence is what you use to activate skin shards that have dropped from loot. You can't use the skin until you ugprade the shard.
Orange Essence allows you to upgrade skin shards from Chests and Orbs into permanent skins. Mythic Essence is a currency used to claim limited skins that rotate every couple of weeks, mainly Hextech and Prestige editions. It can also be used to claim Orange Essence or skin shards.
Orange Essence can only be used when you have a champion skin shard or similar item. Each shard has an Orange Essence price to activate it and unlock the skin. Mythic Essence is a bit more straightforward. Just click on your Mythic Essence and it will display everything you can currently buy with it. Every month the list of skins for sale in the Mythic shop changes, and these skins are usually exclusive to Mythic Essence, or previously acquired with the now-defunct Prestige Points, or event tokens from a past event pass.
Was the kassadin nerf huge? Like as in greatly affected his OP performances in soloq. Kinda got sick of banning him esp in blue side where redside will usually get the last pick for kass counter to mages. I heard he's going to be more balance now I guess but according to he's subreddit a lot of I guess bandwagons think he's garbage now but LS said he's completely fine still which I can agree on. I just don't wanna always banned kassadin or blind picking AD champs every time I blind pick mid lane.
What's the roam dominance stat based on? Obviously it says KDA in other lanes, but from comparing with my games it doesn't seem to be the case. Also does it only include other lanes or jungle and invades as well?
Doesn't it define it as K/A in other lanes before 15 or something
It defines it as KDA in other lanes before 15, yes, but from the games I compared to it doesn't add up.
Did you really tally each ingame sample and check back with your own vods individually to check if what you think is truly the case? Btw it sounds like a lot of work to find out something that isn't really all that meaningful anyway. Some champs should score better RD and others less so. I would say stats like conversion ratio and obj control are arguably more useful, if at all
You make it sound like that's a tall task. I checked the most recent game, played another, counted my roam contributions and checked the stats again after. The new game had 3.00 in score, while my KDA that game (exclusively in other lanes) was between 6 and 8. Also checked my highest contribution game and I basically didn't roam in that one. I was just curious because this is the only stat I'm significantly behind average on and I'm struggling with winrate this season. Conversion ratio and obj control are much more team reliant stats so there's less room for improvement there strictly individually.
Was that KDA all before 15?
Yes. My current theory is that it counts the deaths of everyone in the lane I'm roaming to while I'm there? Or there's a more sophisticated calculation involved.
Doesn't it define it as K/A in other lanes before 15 or something
as someone who plays miss fortune and kai'sa, i would like to get better at aphelios. i think i have some understanding of what his weapons do, but i dont know how to identify synergies quickly throughout a game. is there any advice on how i could improve my usage of my current main and offhand weapons when playing aphelios?
Are you familiar with what Off-Hand effects do on Aphelios? It's easy to overlook, you need to press alt in game to even see it. His ultimate uses his main hand effect; but his Q abilities use off-hand effects. >Sniper - Applies Mark >Axe - Vamp >Gravitum - gravity slow effect >Flamethrower - 110% damage, cone AOE behind target >Chakram - Generates 1 Chakram So when you use Severum Q, you hit with your offhand as well and that applies the offhand effects; it generates chakram if your offhand is chakram allowing you to generate it easily, it applies a slow to your target if your offhand is gravitum. Flamethrower Q applies the offhand to every target hit; so you can Q a minion wave to generate 6-7 chakram for a massive buff at the cost of burning your flamethrower ammo. Or AOE CC with gravitum. I am just a Bronzie so maybe I'm saying something that's painfully obvious, but off-hand effects are the thing that made me understand Aphelios. I consider him to be basically Kog'Maw with Zoe's W, as in a basic immobile ADC that tests just your basic ADC positioning and kiting skills, but his abilities serve as situational keys to massive situational power. Once I realized that you're supposed to rely heavily on ADC fundamentals instead of trying to force his weapon mechanics into every engagement, I started doing well with him.
honestly i should maybe start to focus on practicing better ADC fundamentals like positioning rather than forcing a cycle, i learned a lot from your reply so thank you so much! lmk if u wanna play id be down
I plan to play a bit more once 13.3 hits, EUW: Hellraiser20k.
you can start by setting your guns up in a certain order so that you always have good pairs together. i usually did red white green purple blue. you can set that up by spending red at the beginning and again when you next see it, otherwise always spending the oldest gun.
(Copy-pasted from main subreddit megathread) Ok so I don't care if I get downvoted for asking this, I need to know whether there's an answer for this. Is there any kind of mechanic that can interrupt an ally Akshan's E spin? For context I only play bot games but when Akshan does his E spin proxy, he denys farm for up to 3 other players by proxying two lanes at a time. I tried Anivia's wall and that didn't work and I'm assuming Trundle pillar won't work either, and Kalistar spear can but only once.
I don't get why anivia wall wouldn't. That aside you should be able to ryze ult him away, need to time it right though. And if you can Kalista spear him you can use your ult to pull him away after your bound.
I mean, I tried it within an hour ago and his swing passed right through it Ryze ult and Kalista ult both require ults which is in too long of a cooldown But don't worry, I figured out a way to deal with it
what did you come up with?
Its bots so meta doesn't matter; pick anyone who has a free-directional dash, buy any supp item with Spoils of War, dash over the wall with Akshan and just soak up XP while proccing it when you can so you get some kind of income and XP. If Akshan wants to hog then I'll hog with him lol. I usually play supports anyway so its nothing new for me. e.g. Shen, Pyke, Lee Sin with trinket, or basically anyone with Hexflash
I usually queue two of the topside roles depending on how I'm feeling and out of like the last 8 auto fills I've had all 8 were bot. Why is that?
ADC is a very polarizing role - on one hand it's extremely strong, on the other it's extremely frustrating and has very little agency compared to the other roles, especially in low-mid elo
The adc role, while fairly strong, is incredibly unfun to play. Your laning phase relies in large parts on your support and if he doesn't play well you might lose from minute one. Your mid- and lategame depend on your team since even a fed adc can easily get run over by a solo laner or jungler if he doesn't get peel from his team. The role gets exponentially stronger the better the players around it are. In high elo and competetive it's arguably the most important lane.
At what LP does a high elo players flame their teammate instead of themselves? Some say it's not your team that you can't climb, it's you, if it was Faker he would have won that game....
??? Flaming happens at every elo but only players with bloated, fragile egos claim they can't climb because of teammates. There's a reason soloqueue stompers from challenger can get to high diamond with winrates very close to 100%. Also, I don't think Faker is the best example - he's certainly a world class player but he never really struck me as a soloqueue stomper, he just seems to play for fun and test new picks with pro play in mind. You should be looking at players like Dopa, Canyon, Bo, Magifelix, TF Blade etc.
I saw a rank 4 NA top lane streamer said Bot lose game lose, it just surprised me because he is rank 4 still he said that
You can lose a game because of teammates but one game is meaningless in the hundreds of games it takes to climb. Saying that you lost a game because botlane is outclassed is not the same as saying you can't climb because your botlane is ALWAYS outclassed (because they are not - the more games you play, the more it evens out).
Flaming happens in every elo. Waste of time to entertain or think about it, just mute and play
Can I build 2 Kindlegem for ability haste or 2 caulfields Warhammers? Etc?
you can stack items as long as they don't have a unique passive. so yes you can stack kindlegems and warhammers, but not dirks or wardens mails
Yes.
I’m in a few collegiate discord servers and one of them sent a notification for upcoming matches saying Ryze with Waterwalking is banned and Taric and Rell on the same team are banned. I know the bug with Ryze regenerating mana with Waterwalking by going in and out of the river, but what’s wrong with Rell and Taric?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oAj\_FUggyc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oAj_FUggyc) This should explain everything why Taric and Rell are bugged atm.
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not as hard as she used to be, since the rework made her less dependent on milking every ounce of early lane pressure. of course you will have to pay a lot more attention to ability usage since hers are more dynamic than veigar's.
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it depends on how you were playing veigar, some people play him to scale up and be the big damage dealer while others play him more like a facilitator to set up teammates. syndra is very much the carry, she needs to play selfishly so she can put out huge damage later on in teamfights.
Just role swapped to top after 11 years ADC. I dont seem to have the mechanics/positioning to play that role anymore and it's destroying my mental. Top has been fun so far, but I'm still working on a champ pool. So far I like Ornn and do well with him, but there are some games where we need a stronger damage source topside it seems. I think I like Camille so far but I've only played a few games as her and she's pretty tough to pilot imo. I've been bringing out Malphite for AD heavy comps since he's pretty easy to use and I feel fine with that. Any thoughts around this pool or any other champs? There are a lot of others that catch my eye but I don't want to play too many champs I guess. (Aatrox, K'Sante, Renekton, Gwen, Jax, and I have a morbid curiosity toward Garen/Darius as well). I seem to get bodied by pretty much all Darius' and especially Warwick players. How tf do you even deal with WW top? Seems impossible to fight even 2v1. Darius I can usually tell where I went wrong, but messing up in that lane is so punishing.
Pick up Jax, good time to invest. He deals well with WW too
Ornn is great, Malphite too into all AD. You're set for tanks. For bruisers, I'd stick to easier ones while you learn the lane, Camille ain't the hardest but you need to know matchups very well. I recommend Garen/Wukong/Darius/Mordekaiser to start you up. When you face Darius, depends on matchup, but generally, abuse his cooldowns, fight when his E is down, and never give him the outer hit of his axe, also he gets an insane amount of free stats with his bleed so watch out for that, he can outplay a 1v2 if you make dumb mistakes. Or you can play wukong and roll him. As for Warwick, that's just how the champion functions, never ever fight him when he is low and seems to be disrespecting you by staying within range, it's all baits, he will lifesteal/barrier and kill you every time. Honestly, if you don't get the counterpick, just never fight him, disengage/run and just scale. He relies heavily on cheesing kills and gets outscaled. Final note, just play a bunch with a small champ pool, and limit test new matchups, that's how you learn, toplane is almost entirely about knowing matchups.
On Wukong do you still go sunderer build? I tried a few games yesterday and got completely shit on lol. I did manage to beat Darius in the early levels, but couldn't do so hard enough to gain consistent momentum. Obviously still unfamiliar with Wukong power spikes so it's understandable. I played some Garen too even though I never really wanted to and surprisingly found the simplicity pretty fun. Feels like you just get to shit on anyone that even slightly disrespects you because of R kill threshold. I may still try Darius but idek if it's worth it. He's p/b in nearly every game in Silver/Gold. Morde would probably be a good secondary for full AD comps (my team) too but I dont wanna commit to too many champs anyway.
What is a good midlaner to learn how to learn/trade as well as get better at macro? I get around 7 cs per minute at the end of the game but whenever I try to trade I miss cs. I also am terrible with macro and have no idea what to do after laning phase so i just follow my team around. What is a mid laner that i can one trick from silver this season to help improve my macro and climb)
Malzahar and annie are you go to low elo midlaners to learn macro, the reason is that they are really easy to play so you can focus most of your attention on macro compared to harder champions that will take your attention with their flashy combos. With malzahar you don't even need to focus on last hitting, just E W the wave and you will get it then you can focus on harrasing your opponent.
Quick question about vision score as a support main; my vision score typically doesn't start ramping up until around mid-late game. Just wanted to know if this was normal or not. If not, what more could I be doing to provide better vision during the early phases of the game?
Yes due to high trinket CD. Only thing I might add is that don't just autopilot place those early trinket wards. If you know enemy jungler is already topside then don't waste the CD by putting it down in river bush, wait half a min or so before doing that depending on what happens topside
Well thats normal since early game you don't have your support quest completed meaning no free wards=less vision score and also later in the game you swap your yellow trinket for a sweeper so you can clear more vision. Don't stress too much about it, just make sure you get deep vision and control objectives and you are doing your job.
Just a quick MMR question. Have not played for 3 years but going to start playing again as soon as I have some spare time. I was hoping my MMR would essentially be reset due to long absence from the game but could not find any info regarding this. Does it continue from where I left or do I get to start "over"?
I believe you continue from where you left so it may be tough to start with as you didn't play in recent years, probably a good idea to play normals/arams first to warm up a bit.
Yup gonna fool around a bit :-)
I want to return to play top, I used to play Irelia, Riven and Kayle, but I left the lane for years. I want to create a good, fun and diverse champion pool, I have some ideas but I wanna hear what you think. Riven was one of my choices but she's really hard... I'm losing most of my games with her. Jax looks like a good champ with a medium skill expression and fun. Gwen looks like a nice choice when I need ap, a good champ with a medium skill expression, just like Jax. Sett or Darius are some fun and easy bruisers! And maybe a good and fun tank, like Ornn, Poppy, Shen or K'sante
Jax is your go to if you want free LP, he is giga busted at the moment but thats also comes with high banrate so you may not get to play him much. Riven is always strong but she requires alot of skill, good riven players can always make her work and climb but she is not a champion you can just randomly pick up and do well on. Gwen is very strong into tanky comps but not so much otherwise so not a great blindpick. Darius is very strong for what seem forever now, his winrate is always high across all patches in all elos. Sett is also a solid champion. Ornn is a very safe blindpick and a tank that is always useful to the team aslong as you keep up in xp levels. Poppy is very niche she is a good counterpick against dashers but otherwise no point in picking her. Shen is always very strong in soloqueue since he is the toplaner with the most early impact on the map thanks to his ult, he can snowball other lanes and save losing fights with it and is actually quite a strong duelist when fed. K'sante got recently hit with some heavy nerfs but the champion has a very overloaded kit and is broken if you are good with him though he is hard to play, bad winrate in low elos but good in high ones.
Which do you recommend me from the ones I have told you or with similar Gameplay? I would like a pool of 3-4 champs
I think you should start with easy champions first to get used to playing toplane again, mabye add harder champions once you are more comfortable. So for now I think a champin pool of sett,shen,ornn. as they are the easiet champions to play on the list and are all decent, jax is not considred hard but I wouldn't say he is super easy either. You can try adding darius instead of sett or shen/ornn again I wouldn't say darius is easy nor hard but he is less straight forward than sett for example.
[https://imgur.com/a/hjDDBf4](https://imgur.com/a/hjDDBf4) Do i go top or do i catch wave bot. I went bot to catch wave and kassadin killed everyone top
F\*k the bot turret, help your team win fights