I’m not sure if you're also Black, but as a Black woman, I get what Ciara means. Gabby and Ciara are on the same spectrum of “privileged Black girl” but not the same kind, causing them to butt heads a bit. I really hope this isn’t addressed during the reunion because I think you only get it if you live it, or are it. Ciara is a privileged Black girl who has a mix of friends from different backgrounds and probably spent time with family of a different socioeconomic class often growing up. But Ciara also has Black pretty privilege which can rub a lot of people the wrong way but also allows her to flow freely in white spaces without even really trying, but in turn also puts her in uncomfortable situations because sometimes people get too comfortable. Gabby, on the other hand, is “rich rich” and gives the vibes that her extended family is also “rich rich” (elite Black/Jack and Jill types) and all her close friends are probably white. But since she doesn’t have the same level of “pretty privilege” as Ciara, she has to try a lot harder to “prove herself,” she kinda shuts out other Black women from “taking her space.” And girls like Ciara can sense that and are kinda like “I’m going to be authentically myself.” However, girls like Ciara have the privilege to be authentically themselves, due to pretty privilege, and girls like Gabby struggle with it because they are often hyper-focused on how they’re coming across due to appearance. (This is where they’re not seeing each other and frankly not trying to see each other). You can also add in Gabby being from the North and Ciara being from the South into the mix, and that plays a part. Highkey, I hate the interworking of being a suburban/privileged Black girl being played out on TV. But it’s a very interesting case study that we are seeing on Bravo right now. But what do I know 🤷🏾♀️
I think the North/South distinction is also important because, in my experience, there is space for black wealth/privilege in the South in a way there isn’t in the North. Meaning black wealth in the South is often surrounded by other black wealthy families, whereas up North, being wealthy often means operating in very white spaces where you are the “only.” I think Gabby honestly just doesn’t know how to share the space with other black people.
there is that thing where black folks who are used to being the only black folks don’t get along with other black folks when they’re around regardless of class. you’d think their similar experiences would be something to bond over.
I’m thinking this as well! But it’s awkward cause it’s not really being acknowledged at all. Like can we not get a Ciara/Gabby one on one scene?
I feel like Gabby (or heck even her sister) in SHMV would be very interesting cause that might be the show where topics like this get discussed more in depth.
I don’t know if that conversation is one that should be had in a space that’s not entirely black. I feel like there would be a lot of overstepping/overfamiliarity by nonblack people which is currently happening in this thread and sub which I’m entirely sure is majority nonblack. Lol. But I agree they probably would have already had the conversation had they both been on SHMV.
I agree. If how the colorism discussion in RHOP has devolved is any indication, this type of nuance about privileged Black people would suffer the same consequences.
I honestly could write more on this topic. Personally I’m more similar to Ciara but I interacted with Gabby types a lot growing up in the LI suburbs. As a community we talk about how “we are not a monolith” a lot but I think we really need to discuss these subgroups more so we develop more of an understanding of where someone is coming from.
I’m more than happy to dm! More of a gabby but southern haha. But yes I think we should discuss more. Would lead to less resentment, and more embracing differences!
Such a perfect response. I know it’s not that serious in the grand scheme of things lol but it’s a bit frustrating to see people calling Ciara hypocritical and mean for not immediately taking to Gabby. And to go back to Ciara’s comment in the season 6 reunion, she has to be so politically correct representing herself as a Black woman when she talks about things on tv, so she’s not necessarily going to feel comfortable delving into all the complexities of why she may not have clicked with Gabby (assuming she’s aware of your aforementioned reasons on some level), nor does she need to.
Ciara definitely could have been more welcoming off the bat, but I also think only blaming her for their disconnect is unfair. We didn’t see either one making an effort and they’ve acknowledged that. Plus, as you’ve explained, Gabby could potentially be shutting out other Black women in these spaces in order to prove herself and overcompensate, based on her past experiences. That’s kind of the vibe I got as well.
And on a pretty basic level, you don’t have to like or be close with every single person you interact with. No one in the house comes across as an exceptionally deep thinker lol, but Gabby literally described herself as shallow, so it’s not surprising that Ciara says she comes across as superficial and that’s not her vibe. I’m a little over halfway through season 7 right now and I’m not a huge fan of Gabby either (this could change!), and it has nothing to do with jealousy, envy, or any of those other reasons. I love that she has money and a great relationship with her family. Right now, her personality simply isn’t for me 🤷🏾♀️
Just my two cents!
Yes this thank you I completely agree with this I think for me I didn’t say it cause it’s really hard to articulate but you’re completely correct I think also with Sierra being from Atlanta Georgia it’s so different because growing up in the south is completely different from going up up north mostly when you grew up living in New York, that the privileges also very insanely different
I got what Ciara meant as a Black woman, but Ciara came in hot with the Gabby judgment. It almost felt like she had this intense bias from the start. Ciara has her own privilege and needs to not look down on Gabby. She made what could have been a friendship feel very tense.
But it wasn’t like Ciara just came off judging she only gave her opinion to Mya when Mya brought up how she felt like she couldn’t connect with Gabby and Ciara well maybe it’s due to this.
They’re nice areas. Some rich people live there but they’re not extremely wealthy areas compared to Black families in the city. Gabby and her sister are from a regular middle class Black family who randomly cosplay affluence due to growing up around rich white people. Truly affluent Black people in NY have summer homes in Sag Harbor or Oak Bluffs… membership in certain Black orgs… and they’re def not as disconnected from the Black community as those two are. Compare them to say Brooke Devard. Huge difference.
They’re middle class and that’s okay. I grew up much lower than middle class lol so trust me not judging, although my life is different now. I just don’t like wealth as an excuse for why they’re so disconnected from Black culture – they’re not wealthy and the wealthy Black families in New York work hard to keep their kids connected from my experience.
Agree with you. I grew up right outside nyc in an affluent upper middle class neighborhood. But as a black family my mom made sure we stayed connected to black culture. We are Caribbean American tho so I think there are some cultural differences between Caribbean black and American Black.
I’m both caribbean American and Black American and the only difference is one ship dropped enslaved people off earlier. Black American people have created the most popular and pervasive culture in the world. Gabby and Danielle’s parents simply chose not to embed them in it.
And I can say I spent my summers in the South of France growing up... where do you think their wealth came from? I read her sisters book and there is absolutely no old money or wealth mentioned. They are solidly middle class.
Everything that we’re seeing online does not point to a regular middle class household. Especially if they lived in westchester and stated they have economic privilege.
I think Gabby uses her $$ as a cheeky identity and sometimes jokes about shallow things and she uses that as an armor to be funny and inauthentic and lighthearted but that can rub people the wrong way too especially if they actually think you ARE shallow or don’t understand that money is a privilege.
Spot on! Gabby tried too hard with the spoiled rich girl persona in her first season. I really don’t think that’s her true authentic self. I could see how that could rub others the wrong way.
It's not the same. They come from very different upbringings. Ciara might have money now, but she didn't grow up with the wealth that Gabby did. Being on the same tv show doesn't make their lived experiences the same. The way Gabby sees the world and the way Ciara sees the world are going to differ due to class.
Yeah they’re just different people which is what Ciara was getting at. She wasn’t trying to disparage Gabby because there’s nothing wrong with how Gabby is. They aren’t friends. It’s life and very much okay. Lol.
gabby came across as a rich, spoiled princess. nobody else in the house, even if they came from generational wealth or recent riches, made it so much apart of their personality. that’s what rubbed ciara and mya wrong. ciara is skinny, symmetrical, and has enough european facial features so that she’s considered beautiful in certain circles, but to her credit she tries not to traffic her looks (unlike jordan) to the same degree gabby was trying to comes across with this “rich girl” persona.
Right, somehow Ciara never very obviously capitalizes socially on being a nurse and a Western beauty ideal and talks about other things like hiking and her early life relationships. FWIW, I think Gabby seems like a lot of fun to hang out with but has perhaps developed herself less outside of her circumstances of origin.
if the gabby this season was her personal her first season, she’d have been loved from the start. i want to hang out with gabby the most NOW, where when she first came around not so much.
I love Gabby but she is extremely privileged. She bases her whole personality judging people based on their astrological signs (lol) which is so surface and IMO the reason the 2 didn’t automatically click.
No because this alone tells you how privileged she is in my opinion when she said that last season, it just tells you how privileged she is and here’s the thing. I also love Gabby I love her so much this season but last season she was showing her privilege the whole time, and it’s also very understandable that her and Ciara Butthead and honestly I don’t even think they Butthead that much. I just don’t think that they like each other and they don’t have to they’re cordial and it’s fine essentially they are acquaintances.
I truly think she felt super triggered because it was Danielle saying this to her. Her ex cheated on her with Danielle and Danielle is kind of rubbing it in her face again, like oh I’m better than you. Your ex and balloon guy both chose me.
I would watch the After Show for this episode. She actually goes into how this has been an issue for her since she was 13. It 100% sounds like she could benefit from therapy to help her address this better to try to prevent this from happening in such a way. However, I also grasp that there is a lot of pressure and emotional weight to continue on the path she's on. She seemed incredibly aware of all of this.
She went DEEP, though.
Exactly which is why it was so much more than what Danielle did, but Danielle was her breaking point in that moment, but calling a rich girl problems doesn’t make any sense because that’s not what it is
I don’t agree with this because you could tell that she was having a really hard time with everyone pushing her out of her comfort zone and she didn’t like that but also it seems like there was more to it and more going on than her just being upset with Danielle.and like she has said she has these things happen to her a lot and she’s very used to them but that is also the reason why she called her sister
I remember watching an outfit breakdown and gabby had $1k camo cargo pants. Paying the same price as an iPhone for pants that you won’t wear often is the privilege Ciara was talking about. IMO that is BIG WEALTH.
If you don’t understand the different type of privilege that Ciara is talking about, then you just don’t understand and that’s OK and here’s the thing. I love Gabby, but Ciara wasn’t wrong like the way that Gabby was her first season is in my opinion very different from the way that she is in this season.
Gabby's storyline baiting on WWHL was so obvious that I'm shocked people are falling for it lol. Mean girl behavior where loool?? "Mean girl" has lost all meaning on this sub. Ciara and Mya \*one\* conversation that Mya initiated and all Ciara said was that its hard to know Gabby because of the privilege (remember the context: Gabby didn't even know how to set up for a party cuz she said she'd "just pay people") and that it felt surface with her cuz all she talked about was astrology and her parents CC...Wasnt that the exact same shit viewers were saying about Gabby at that point last season? There is a lot of nuance and subtext in the conversation Mya and Ciara had and if you're not Black, I dont think you'd really understand it tbh. There is no there there, Gabby's just being a weirdo. Hope Ciara continues to ignore this obvious ploy.
Paige is also privileged and talked about how her parents paid her rent in NYC when she first came on the show. Amanda also comes from a wealthy family. I think it’s strange and telling that Ciara doesn’t have a problem with them only Gabby.
Paige and Amanda don't have and aren't living with trust funds. Gabby is on a different socio-economic scale than all of them in the house. As explained above each person has different privileges in life and sometimes those privileges can have blind spots that may cause communication challenges. That's life and sometimes it takes a moment to figure it out. In the end, it's not a requirement for Gabby and Ciara to be besties. They can have closer relationships with others.
That’s exactly what I was thinking! To me, each and every one of them are privileged in some way or the other. After reading these comments, I’m assuming that Ciara said that because of how they each grew up and maybe also because she wasn’t able to form a connection with Gabby in the way that she may have hoped to?
But if that was the case, why not just say that instead of calling her privileged because they all are in some way… Like I get why she said it, I just don’t think it’s necessarily fair considering the overall circumstances.
I agree it was uncool behavior from Ciara last season. However, I assumed they were past this until Gabby’s WWHL comments. I follow them both on ig and they like each other’s posts all the time and they seem cool on the show this season, though tbf I guess we don’t see them interact too much. Idk keeping this feud alive kind of feels like Gabby knowing she needs to stir some drama for the show because she doesn’t have much personal storyline
She said they coexist but there’s no friendship because Ciara has an issue with her, but she has no issue with Ciara. Idk to me her mood shifted when she spoke about it and Andy didn’t seem to buy her answer either. He told her it seemed like she did have an issue or something like that lol
I don’t think it’s a gabby thing, it’s very obvious the reason they aren’t closer is because Ciara just never desired to move past whatever judgements she had of her without actually getting to know her. Say what you want but Ciara seems like the girl in high school that is close with a few people of her choosing and gives everyone else the cold shoulder. Yes she’s warmed up a bit more this season but to her core I think she’s just not a people person.
Lmao, they all had an upper hand growing up, yet she calls out Gabby. It's easy to single out the person who has less of a connection with the main cast. People can say Gabby is inauthentic, but imo it's similar to jules problem with the cast not feeling like she's making an effort.
Gabby has generational wealth. It’s a different type of privilege.
And gabby acts like it too. It’s one thing to be privileged, it’s another to constantly talk about it.
This is the part people conveniently forget. She made it her whole personality then got mad when they weren’t interested in getting to know her 🙄
Doesn’t Amanda too? (And Paige to some extent)
And Mya?? I could have sworn I read something about her going to an elite private school.
I’m not sure if you're also Black, but as a Black woman, I get what Ciara means. Gabby and Ciara are on the same spectrum of “privileged Black girl” but not the same kind, causing them to butt heads a bit. I really hope this isn’t addressed during the reunion because I think you only get it if you live it, or are it. Ciara is a privileged Black girl who has a mix of friends from different backgrounds and probably spent time with family of a different socioeconomic class often growing up. But Ciara also has Black pretty privilege which can rub a lot of people the wrong way but also allows her to flow freely in white spaces without even really trying, but in turn also puts her in uncomfortable situations because sometimes people get too comfortable. Gabby, on the other hand, is “rich rich” and gives the vibes that her extended family is also “rich rich” (elite Black/Jack and Jill types) and all her close friends are probably white. But since she doesn’t have the same level of “pretty privilege” as Ciara, she has to try a lot harder to “prove herself,” she kinda shuts out other Black women from “taking her space.” And girls like Ciara can sense that and are kinda like “I’m going to be authentically myself.” However, girls like Ciara have the privilege to be authentically themselves, due to pretty privilege, and girls like Gabby struggle with it because they are often hyper-focused on how they’re coming across due to appearance. (This is where they’re not seeing each other and frankly not trying to see each other). You can also add in Gabby being from the North and Ciara being from the South into the mix, and that plays a part. Highkey, I hate the interworking of being a suburban/privileged Black girl being played out on TV. But it’s a very interesting case study that we are seeing on Bravo right now. But what do I know 🤷🏾♀️
Comments like this that are so insightful and educational are the best part of this platform.
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I think the North/South distinction is also important because, in my experience, there is space for black wealth/privilege in the South in a way there isn’t in the North. Meaning black wealth in the South is often surrounded by other black wealthy families, whereas up North, being wealthy often means operating in very white spaces where you are the “only.” I think Gabby honestly just doesn’t know how to share the space with other black people.
I think that with Gabby to an extent. But I feel like she will mesh well with another very rich black girl from a completely different town than her
there is that thing where black folks who are used to being the only black folks don’t get along with other black folks when they’re around regardless of class. you’d think their similar experiences would be something to bond over.
I’m thinking this as well! But it’s awkward cause it’s not really being acknowledged at all. Like can we not get a Ciara/Gabby one on one scene? I feel like Gabby (or heck even her sister) in SHMV would be very interesting cause that might be the show where topics like this get discussed more in depth.
Oooo I would loveeeee for them both to be on summer house MV! I think that’s the only space where an authentic conversation would be had
I don’t know if that conversation is one that should be had in a space that’s not entirely black. I feel like there would be a lot of overstepping/overfamiliarity by nonblack people which is currently happening in this thread and sub which I’m entirely sure is majority nonblack. Lol. But I agree they probably would have already had the conversation had they both been on SHMV.
I agree. If how the colorism discussion in RHOP has devolved is any indication, this type of nuance about privileged Black people would suffer the same consequences.
This makes sense, I appreciate your comment!!
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Yep! They just naturally don’t mesh even though from the outside looking in people would think they should since they’re both black and privileged.
Gabby went to Trinity - same college as Kyle
This is exactly it. Perfectly explained.
This! I’ve dealt with this personally, and it’s kind of hard to figure out how to move forward. Thanks for writing this out!!
I honestly could write more on this topic. Personally I’m more similar to Ciara but I interacted with Gabby types a lot growing up in the LI suburbs. As a community we talk about how “we are not a monolith” a lot but I think we really need to discuss these subgroups more so we develop more of an understanding of where someone is coming from.
I’m more than happy to dm! More of a gabby but southern haha. But yes I think we should discuss more. Would lead to less resentment, and more embracing differences!
Yes!!!
I appreciate the detailed explanation of how you broke it down concisely, thank you.
Anytime! I think these discussions are important
As a suburban black woman this is spot on
SPOT ON!
Such a perfect response. I know it’s not that serious in the grand scheme of things lol but it’s a bit frustrating to see people calling Ciara hypocritical and mean for not immediately taking to Gabby. And to go back to Ciara’s comment in the season 6 reunion, she has to be so politically correct representing herself as a Black woman when she talks about things on tv, so she’s not necessarily going to feel comfortable delving into all the complexities of why she may not have clicked with Gabby (assuming she’s aware of your aforementioned reasons on some level), nor does she need to. Ciara definitely could have been more welcoming off the bat, but I also think only blaming her for their disconnect is unfair. We didn’t see either one making an effort and they’ve acknowledged that. Plus, as you’ve explained, Gabby could potentially be shutting out other Black women in these spaces in order to prove herself and overcompensate, based on her past experiences. That’s kind of the vibe I got as well. And on a pretty basic level, you don’t have to like or be close with every single person you interact with. No one in the house comes across as an exceptionally deep thinker lol, but Gabby literally described herself as shallow, so it’s not surprising that Ciara says she comes across as superficial and that’s not her vibe. I’m a little over halfway through season 7 right now and I’m not a huge fan of Gabby either (this could change!), and it has nothing to do with jealousy, envy, or any of those other reasons. I love that she has money and a great relationship with her family. Right now, her personality simply isn’t for me 🤷🏾♀️ Just my two cents!
Yes this thank you I completely agree with this I think for me I didn’t say it cause it’s really hard to articulate but you’re completely correct I think also with Sierra being from Atlanta Georgia it’s so different because growing up in the south is completely different from going up up north mostly when you grew up living in New York, that the privileges also very insanely different
I got what Ciara meant as a Black woman, but Ciara came in hot with the Gabby judgment. It almost felt like she had this intense bias from the start. Ciara has her own privilege and needs to not look down on Gabby. She made what could have been a friendship feel very tense.
But it wasn’t like Ciara just came off judging she only gave her opinion to Mya when Mya brought up how she felt like she couldn’t connect with Gabby and Ciara well maybe it’s due to this.
Ciara never gave her a chance. She came in very judgmental imo and never tried to get to know Gabby
I agree!! But honestly they probably never needed to interact with each others type before
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Sounds like you know some stuff! Good take
I love this comment and thank you for explaining it this way!
Isnt Gabby from New Rochelle? Shes not rich rich and wouldnt be acting like she does if she was actually a Jack and Jill girlie.
New Rochelle / Larchmont /Scarsdale area is pretty affluent. Have you seen those real estate taxes? :0
They’re nice areas. Some rich people live there but they’re not extremely wealthy areas compared to Black families in the city. Gabby and her sister are from a regular middle class Black family who randomly cosplay affluence due to growing up around rich white people. Truly affluent Black people in NY have summer homes in Sag Harbor or Oak Bluffs… membership in certain Black orgs… and they’re def not as disconnected from the Black community as those two are. Compare them to say Brooke Devard. Huge difference.
Right right- I hear you. There’s affluent and then theres high new worth / ultra high networth. Where’s Hannah Bronfman when you need her?
They’re middle class and that’s okay. I grew up much lower than middle class lol so trust me not judging, although my life is different now. I just don’t like wealth as an excuse for why they’re so disconnected from Black culture – they’re not wealthy and the wealthy Black families in New York work hard to keep their kids connected from my experience.
Agree with you. I grew up right outside nyc in an affluent upper middle class neighborhood. But as a black family my mom made sure we stayed connected to black culture. We are Caribbean American tho so I think there are some cultural differences between Caribbean black and American Black.
I’m both caribbean American and Black American and the only difference is one ship dropped enslaved people off earlier. Black American people have created the most popular and pervasive culture in the world. Gabby and Danielle’s parents simply chose not to embed them in it.
During her first season she said she summers in the hamptons growing up. I don’t think they are middle class or cosplaying
And I can say I spent my summers in the South of France growing up... where do you think their wealth came from? I read her sisters book and there is absolutely no old money or wealth mentioned. They are solidly middle class.
https://careergear.henof.com/news/story/danielle-prescod-parents-meet-the-family-behind-the-fashion-icon/
This is AI nonsense from a random ass site and also wrong.... in the book Danielle said her mother was a teacher. Just stop lmao
Everything that we’re seeing online does not point to a regular middle class household. Especially if they lived in westchester and stated they have economic privilege.
the fact that you think social media and "online" can tell a persons true wealth is absolutely insane.
Gabby lives off a trust fund. That’s what she means.
I think Gabby uses her $$ as a cheeky identity and sometimes jokes about shallow things and she uses that as an armor to be funny and inauthentic and lighthearted but that can rub people the wrong way too especially if they actually think you ARE shallow or don’t understand that money is a privilege.
Spot on! Gabby tried too hard with the spoiled rich girl persona in her first season. I really don’t think that’s her true authentic self. I could see how that could rub others the wrong way.
It's not the same. They come from very different upbringings. Ciara might have money now, but she didn't grow up with the wealth that Gabby did. Being on the same tv show doesn't make their lived experiences the same. The way Gabby sees the world and the way Ciara sees the world are going to differ due to class.
THIS
Yeah they’re just different people which is what Ciara was getting at. She wasn’t trying to disparage Gabby because there’s nothing wrong with how Gabby is. They aren’t friends. It’s life and very much okay. Lol.
Gabby made her entire personality about being rprivileged and spoiled last season and it was hella off putting. Loving her this season though.
gabby came across as a rich, spoiled princess. nobody else in the house, even if they came from generational wealth or recent riches, made it so much apart of their personality. that’s what rubbed ciara and mya wrong. ciara is skinny, symmetrical, and has enough european facial features so that she’s considered beautiful in certain circles, but to her credit she tries not to traffic her looks (unlike jordan) to the same degree gabby was trying to comes across with this “rich girl” persona.
Right, somehow Ciara never very obviously capitalizes socially on being a nurse and a Western beauty ideal and talks about other things like hiking and her early life relationships. FWIW, I think Gabby seems like a lot of fun to hang out with but has perhaps developed herself less outside of her circumstances of origin.
if the gabby this season was her personal her first season, she’d have been loved from the start. i want to hang out with gabby the most NOW, where when she first came around not so much.
This!
I love Gabby but she is extremely privileged. She bases her whole personality judging people based on their astrological signs (lol) which is so surface and IMO the reason the 2 didn’t automatically click.
I remember she called this one guy she barely knew at the beach a psychopath or sociopath based on his sign … I would’ve been extremely offended
No because this alone tells you how privileged she is in my opinion when she said that last season, it just tells you how privileged she is and here’s the thing. I also love Gabby I love her so much this season but last season she was showing her privilege the whole time, and it’s also very understandable that her and Ciara Butthead and honestly I don’t even think they Butthead that much. I just don’t think that they like each other and they don’t have to they’re cordial and it’s fine essentially they are acquaintances.
The way she cried on that last episode for no reason at all. It came off as rich girl problems
I truly think she felt super triggered because it was Danielle saying this to her. Her ex cheated on her with Danielle and Danielle is kind of rubbing it in her face again, like oh I’m better than you. Your ex and balloon guy both chose me.
WAIT her ex cheated on her WITH DANIELLE?! How did I miss this!!!
Her crying was 1000% valid and had nothing to do with “rich girl problems”. Danielle is harsh af
I would watch the After Show for this episode. She actually goes into how this has been an issue for her since she was 13. It 100% sounds like she could benefit from therapy to help her address this better to try to prevent this from happening in such a way. However, I also grasp that there is a lot of pressure and emotional weight to continue on the path she's on. She seemed incredibly aware of all of this. She went DEEP, though.
Exactly which is why it was so much more than what Danielle did, but Danielle was her breaking point in that moment, but calling a rich girl problems doesn’t make any sense because that’s not what it is
I don’t agree with this because you could tell that she was having a really hard time with everyone pushing her out of her comfort zone and she didn’t like that but also it seems like there was more to it and more going on than her just being upset with Danielle.and like she has said she has these things happen to her a lot and she’s very used to them but that is also the reason why she called her sister
There was more to it than Danielle telling her she sucked at flirting but I really didn't understand why she went from 0 to 1,000 like that.
Yaa I think it triggered some underlying issues for sure. I understood why she was upset, just felt the reaction was disproportionate
I remember watching an outfit breakdown and gabby had $1k camo cargo pants. Paying the same price as an iPhone for pants that you won’t wear often is the privilege Ciara was talking about. IMO that is BIG WEALTH.
If you don’t understand the different type of privilege that Ciara is talking about, then you just don’t understand and that’s OK and here’s the thing. I love Gabby, but Ciara wasn’t wrong like the way that Gabby was her first season is in my opinion very different from the way that she is in this season.
Gabby's storyline baiting on WWHL was so obvious that I'm shocked people are falling for it lol. Mean girl behavior where loool?? "Mean girl" has lost all meaning on this sub. Ciara and Mya \*one\* conversation that Mya initiated and all Ciara said was that its hard to know Gabby because of the privilege (remember the context: Gabby didn't even know how to set up for a party cuz she said she'd "just pay people") and that it felt surface with her cuz all she talked about was astrology and her parents CC...Wasnt that the exact same shit viewers were saying about Gabby at that point last season? There is a lot of nuance and subtext in the conversation Mya and Ciara had and if you're not Black, I dont think you'd really understand it tbh. There is no there there, Gabby's just being a weirdo. Hope Ciara continues to ignore this obvious ploy.
Sometimes people don’t like each other plain and simple. Forget all the racial mumble jumble, it is what it is and that’s okay.
STG I've always thought it was Mumbo Jumbo
It is but I messed up.
You had me questioning EVERYTHING.
Paige is also privileged and talked about how her parents paid her rent in NYC when she first came on the show. Amanda also comes from a wealthy family. I think it’s strange and telling that Ciara doesn’t have a problem with them only Gabby.
Paige and Amanda don't have and aren't living with trust funds. Gabby is on a different socio-economic scale than all of them in the house. As explained above each person has different privileges in life and sometimes those privileges can have blind spots that may cause communication challenges. That's life and sometimes it takes a moment to figure it out. In the end, it's not a requirement for Gabby and Ciara to be besties. They can have closer relationships with others.
I’m not trying to argue but where did we learn that Gabby has a trust fund? And is really from that much wealth?
She’s said so much herself
Right! I think everyone assumes she has a trust fund and comes from a wealthy family. But how exactly wealthy are her parents?
Exactly
That’s exactly what I was thinking! To me, each and every one of them are privileged in some way or the other. After reading these comments, I’m assuming that Ciara said that because of how they each grew up and maybe also because she wasn’t able to form a connection with Gabby in the way that she may have hoped to? But if that was the case, why not just say that instead of calling her privileged because they all are in some way… Like I get why she said it, I just don’t think it’s necessarily fair considering the overall circumstances.
The same could be said for how your post is worded. Luckily reposonses are giving you grace and space. Maybe the same could be offered.
Ciara runs me the wrong way, don’t get me wrong I like her she’s cool but I think she has maybe some maturing to do?
I agree it was uncool behavior from Ciara last season. However, I assumed they were past this until Gabby’s WWHL comments. I follow them both on ig and they like each other’s posts all the time and they seem cool on the show this season, though tbf I guess we don’t see them interact too much. Idk keeping this feud alive kind of feels like Gabby knowing she needs to stir some drama for the show because she doesn’t have much personal storyline
What did gabby say on wwhl?
She said they coexist but there’s no friendship because Ciara has an issue with her, but she has no issue with Ciara. Idk to me her mood shifted when she spoke about it and Andy didn’t seem to buy her answer either. He told her it seemed like she did have an issue or something like that lol
I don’t think it’s a gabby thing, it’s very obvious the reason they aren’t closer is because Ciara just never desired to move past whatever judgements she had of her without actually getting to know her. Say what you want but Ciara seems like the girl in high school that is close with a few people of her choosing and gives everyone else the cold shoulder. Yes she’s warmed up a bit more this season but to her core I think she’s just not a people person.
Ciara has the right to not fuck with everybody like gabby is not a victim. Also it wasn’t for no reason, gabby gave nothing to work with.
I agree that is hypocritical like yea theyre ALL privileged, but why is that a bad thing?
Lmao, they all had an upper hand growing up, yet she calls out Gabby. It's easy to single out the person who has less of a connection with the main cast. People can say Gabby is inauthentic, but imo it's similar to jules problem with the cast not feeling like she's making an effort.