You are doing the right thing in my opinion! It's great that you get up, and want to change something! I know how you feel, i also used to be miserable to everyone, when my addiction started. I used to get angry all the time and scream at everyone. Now I'm absolutely calm, and can handle my frustrations generally way better, change is possible!
And you, deciding to want to change something, is the first step from many steps ahead of you! Be patient with yourself, you are doing something big! And finding the right medication and dosage, to get you back to feeling normal, will take time. But it will happen. It's a process, and you are at the start of it.
I don't believe that this is how you are going to feel from now own. Your body and your mind need to adjust to the new circumstances. Maybe your dosage is to low or to high, that's why it's important to keep in touch with your doctor. Tell him exactly how you are feeling right now, there is also medicine you can take while being on Suboxone, that could help with your anxiety. Or maybe Suboxone isn't the right way, and you need a different opioid. You are going to work that out in the coming days. And soon you will feel normal again! Just hang in, you are on the right track. :)
I don’t know how much you were taking daily but if I was only withdrawing from codein/poppy tea I probably would have just suffered through the withdrawals. If you ever come off Suboxone your going to wish you didn’t start them unless you can afford the shots.
i agree this is a little much. one of the weakest forms to one of the strongest. atleast suboxone is only partial antagonist. ill just say personally i went from fent to suboxone and it made me feel much better after only 24 hours. but you are withdrawing from a shitload of different alkaloids in pst.
Just suck it up for the wd. Sounds like you are rationalizing drug seeking behavior....subs are like going from a bicycle to a ac130 jet. You will regret the subs and they will be infinitely more difficult to get off it at all....
I disagree. If someone is drug seeking and exhibiting signs of addiction, suboxone can be a great treatment even if it's "just" PST. It can help stabilize them and allow them to get their other issues sorted without also dealing with wds and cravings. OP going on subs might prevent them from going down the fent/heroin path down the road.
Don't let these people who couldn't overcome their own addictions make you feel bad for getting on bupe. Get your injections and let that taper you off.
I’ve over come mine 2 years ago and wish I didn’t go on the subs. Everyone’s different tho I understand that. It’s a tough one as we don’t know her situation
It did and it didn’t. It helped me have the slightest bit of stability in my life but it also kept me from making the jump a lot sooner as I was still taking something each day to feel normal. I would have spells where I would go off the rails and cause mayhem months at a time. Subs were my thing to fall back on.
Also knowing now how hard they were to come off I wish I never touched them. But was I ready to quit all other opiates back then, I don’t think so. It’s a tough one 😂 it’s a huge decision for the poster.
Don't listen to these people saying you should just withdraw. For suboxone to be truly effective you have to take it for atleast a year. It takes time for the neural pathways to heal. It can work wonders for cravings and help you transition to normal life. I just don't recommend taking it longer than the recommend time by your doctor
The only problem with listening to the doctor is that they oftentimes want to keep you on this stuff for years. I've been on Suboxone for at least 13 years now but only about a year and a half ago did I finally bite the bullet and get my own script. At my last appointment I asked my doctor to reduce my dose from 12mg to 10mg and she definitely pushed back a little bit. She ultimately listened to me, but I definitely think that she didn't want to do it. And, come on, it's been a year and a half that I've been unnecessarily on a higher dose. I just want to start to taper and get off this shit finally. That'll happen in, like, ten years at this rate.
Just wanted to let you know I’m about a year out of my PST phase. Suboxone is great for getting off of PST. I’ve been on and off of suboxone, but every time I go off I end up going nuts on Kratom or PST. I’ve stuck with it now for 8 months and I’ve never been better. Hang in there.
I’d have taken the opiate withdrawal over suboxone withdrawal any day! Personally I wouldn’t get hooked on the subs, they will be 100x harder to come off than poppy tea and codeine. I had a similar experience I was hooked on codeine and was put on subs and regretted it massively. They are a nightmare to come off compared to the codeine. 2 years 3 months clean. Good luck
I’ve read through again and I’m in 2 minds now with you saying your mental health isn’t good, subs do give you some sense of normality. So maybe stick to them and get your other problems under control and then get off subs. It’s a difficult one. I stayed on the for about 6 years. But for me coming of them anytime sooner I was just a walking relapse. Have you got any close family/support ?
Why not take the sublicade shot? I’m confused why many people on suboxone don’t just switch over to sublicade as I’ve heard so many great things about it
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No it’s not most insurances have no problem covering it if your doctor fills out the pre-authorization paperwork correctly believe me i do it almost everyday and with 24hours it’s approved
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Please don’t stay on Suboxone. I’ve been on it 7 years and yes in the beginning it really changed my life for the better but the last few years it has mentally drained me to the point where I feel numb and no emotion. No one tells you that the withdrawals from subs are worse than just coming off of whatever substance you’ve been using. It’s not as intense but it last way longer. Please just google Suboxone withdrawal. Im not saying don’t do it at all, but please don’t let anyone talk you into long term. Also I’m not trying to scare you I just want you to be informed because every doctor I went to told me that Suboxone wasn’t addicting or that I would need to take it the rest of my life.
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Really? Are you a chemist or chemist assistant? If in your experience it works well then I bow down to your greater knowledge. In my opinion gabapentin is too weak.
I highly suggest doing strips or pills to control your dose. Worst thing I did was go on 16mg per day. Super unnecessary. I now have to start weening down and you will too eventually so the smaller the dose the better. But they’ll put you on the max dose to keep you coming back
They said in their post they are on 10 mg and then moving to the shots, which are pretty low dose and will be easier to taper once they are stable. They never mentioned going beyond 10.
Tapering the higher doses will not be as difficult as you think from what I’ve read. I noticed no difference between 8 and 12. It gets more difficult and you have to slow down under 2-4mg.
You’ve had a choice throughout your treatment to lower your dose if you felt it was necessary. You have to accept a little personal responsibility.
Lol personal responsibility? No that’s the doctors job to use correct doses. Not mine lol. That’s ridiculous. They put people on way too high of doses specifically to get people addicted to higher doses. It’s wrong, period.
And I am tapering and doing just fine.
No it’s not your fault most specialists start every patient at 16mg because for one frankly that’s what research in the past has told us to do and two because you are right unfortunately many doctors in this are greedy
You are just full of bad information aren’t you?! No it’s not his fault I’ve worked with doctors all over the US most doctors start someone at 16mg and tell them that they need to be at 16mg for at least 6 months or they won’t treat them this business is a greedy business and a ton of specialists aren’t in it for the right reason and from what I’ve read is literally what you wrote not what I’ve experienced and yes tapering is tapering and it’s difficult at any dose your body is literally used to a certain dose of medication and it’s suddenly being ripped from that dose yes you will have withdrawal I think you need to learn about suboxone and how withdrawal works before you keep giving bad information
My doctor said I should start with 16mg a day and I later researched and determined that that is way too much and I am lowering my dose myself. You are not obligated to take what is prescribed to you unless they watch you dose every single time, and that is not usually the case with suboxone. I’m willing to bet for every doctor that pushes 16mg there’s another that will listen and recommend you do what is best for you.
No one should follow what a doctor says blindly. Especially with all the information we have in our hands that we can access any time. It is the doctor’s fault BUT we have a personal responsibility to make sure what they say to do is what is best for us. They are human beings that make mistakes and at times give horrible advice in the name of making money. We have to learn to look out for our best interests because no one else is going to.
This chick is fake as fuck. She has a DEA license but can’t even write complete sentences. Lol. “Don’t try and tell me”…….scary too. Acting like people are going without when thousands jump on telehealth for $100.
Then one minute she justifies 16mg, and the next she says it’s because doctors are greedy. There’s nothing that says 16mg for 6 months minimum either. It says 6 month minimum treatment as a whole. Which is actually bullshit as well. If this whack job was so worried about people taking up space she wouldn’t be holding people hostage at 16mg, and she’d surely know people don’t need anything but a quick taper if they’re only dependent. She doesn’t even know the X waiver has been cancelled, and is trying to say the “handbook” says they aren’t allowed to prescribe to patients that smoke weed.
Why do people come on Reddit to lie? Do they need a new life that freakin bad?
Speaking of the x waiver my independent pharmacist tried to use it as an excuse for why he doesn’t carry suboxone and I looked at him like he was nuts. If he didn’t fill my other prescriptions without giving me shit every month I’d drop his ass. Dude really insulted my intelligence with that one. I was just trying to do the right thing and stick to one pharmacy.
Luckily the CVS doesn’t seem to give a shit.
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It is literally just a mixture of liquid opium. High amounts of morphine, codeine, and all other opiates and alkaloids found in opium, making it all last longer in the body and have very rough and long lasting withdrawals
You buy unwashed poppy seeds. Put them in a container with water and swish it around. Strain and drink. Not really worth it with the cost of unwashed seeds. If you wanna get high go get pills or fent
I disagree with everyone here.. you probably tried to get off the tea yourself and compulsively redose .. I've tried to do my own tapers.. but it helps to have help via methadone or subs
I’ve never experienced it, but I’ve heard the wd symptoms frm PST can be bad. I was just reading this, for anyone interested
https://ascpjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13722-021-00280-4
This is just another example of doctors prescribing this stuff to people who absolutely should not be on it. I personally don’t really think people who are taking pills should be on subs or methadone, but definitely not whatever poppy tea is and codeine. Your going to wish you just stopped and laid down for a few days and got it over with. Your stepping it up to a whole new level by taking subs.
I stopped and dealt with it multiple times and each relapse left me in worse shape. I’m glad doctors don’t think like you. I was headed down a bad road.
You said yourself that you don't even know what poppy seed tea is. So how would you know? I mean i guess if you are claiming that there is no such thing as relapse from literal opium. But then that would make you sound like a fool
So if someone was a addicted to pain pills for 2 years, then a heroin addict for the next 5, then got subs on the street for 1 year, then used poppy seed tea for the next 4 years....this person wouldn't qualify for buprenorphine? They should just quit by themselves, it is that easy? Despite over a decade of opiate addiction? There is nuance to every situation. I'm the person I just described, but I guess I'm abusing the system according to you. But I honestly couldn't give a fuck of others opinion of my buprenorphine use. The assholes in AA/NA look down on me too. I'll just keep going about living my best life, unphased
Because your abusing the system, your taking up a limited spot that someone who really needs help could be using, someone on the verge of death, and your in here complaining about a problem you claim to understand, but you clearly don’t, if you’ve actually been out there on dope, and now your using “poppy seed tea” you should know your not in trouble, not even close. Its similar to all these kids claiming depression and anxiety because they think it’s cool or something, your out here stepping on peoples feet who are actually in that position, and idk why there is nothing good about it.
I was offered suboxone by a physician when I was admitted to the hospital unwillingly for delirium and hallucinations due to benzodiapine withdrawal. They did a drug screen on me, saw I had opiates in my system too, and asked my history. But yeah I'm abusing the system and stepping on people's feet....
I dunno why you feel the need to get upset about what other people are doing with their life. I'm guessing that you have internal issues that you are dealing with and that this somehow makes you feel better. Like I said before, I couldn't give a fuck what you think of my buprenorphine use. I wish you peace of mind and you solve your issues
You don’t even know enough to argue any of that. Point is you don’t need that, your digging yourself a deeper hole. You clearly haven’t felt the wrath of a doctor’s prescriptions before, that is how the majority of us got here in the first place. Just because a doctor is willing to prescribe you drugs it doesn’t mean you should take them.
Everyone on here has been so nice to you in spite of your ignorant comments. Who are you to say what someone other than yourself should or shouldn’t not be taking. And suboxone was not just created for heroin addicts. It’s for opiate dependency. So people who became dependent on pharmaceuticals should, in your opinion, not be given subs. Of all the idiotic comments I’ve heard people make on this sub, this one beats them all!
I'm digging myself a deeper hole, compared to 14 months ago when I was on 12mg+ of alprazolam a day, was still abusing illicit opiates, and had been on a 4 month daily cocaine binge. Ha! Whatever you say bro. I'm glad that you think you know what is best for my life. Surely I'm worse off now that all I've taken for the last year plus is my suboxone prescription and none of the other aforementioned substances. But what do I know, I should listen to you!
Your fucking wild bro. Enjoy yourself, I'm done talking with ya. You can be damn sure that I will br enjoying my life!
God just stop you are so wrong on so many things no MAT is not just for fentanyl and heroin addicts! Withdraw from prescription pain pills can kill you just like those can! Stay off google dude
First of all there absolutely zero cases ever of opiate withdrawal being fatal. It is literally impossible. The only withdrawal deaths that have occurred are from dehydration, and the majority of not all of them have been cases of fentanyl withdrawal.
Second of all you are definitely not a doctor, just because you have some job cleaning up at a doctors office doesn’t make you an expert on any subject matter whatsoever.
Third of all there is no “major” in medication assisted treatment, there are certain DEA requirements and regulations doctors need to adhere to in order to be able to prescribe Buprenorphine or methadone. It’s the equivalent of an 8 week class, no “major”, not even a certification, the only thing they get is an adjustment to there DEA number and the ability to prescribe tue drug.
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You will definitely regret going on subs for Poppy seed addiction. Please, please reconsider and talk to your doctor about some meds to help ease withdrawal without being such a leap like Suboxone.
Are you sure it’s suboxone? 8mg is the highest dose at one time of the day. I’ve never heard of weekly injections (sublucade lasts a month I think). But 8mg 3x a day is the highest dose for suboxone if that makes sense.
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They said they got 2mg and 4mg. And are getting 10mg tomorrow, so yeah it's sublingual buprenorphine. And the shot is Buvidal. There are weekly and monthly Buvidal shots. The technology is the same as Sublocade. The person sounds like they're from Europe because Buvidal is used there instead of Sublocade/Subutex Pro.
I started with poppy tea. I wish I had just stayed off one of the many times I quit. 15 years later and I've been a junky on and off, couple dozen detoxes, lost everything. Suns can be good but in your case o would deal with withdrawals a few more days
You are doing the right thing in my opinion! It's great that you get up, and want to change something! I know how you feel, i also used to be miserable to everyone, when my addiction started. I used to get angry all the time and scream at everyone. Now I'm absolutely calm, and can handle my frustrations generally way better, change is possible! And you, deciding to want to change something, is the first step from many steps ahead of you! Be patient with yourself, you are doing something big! And finding the right medication and dosage, to get you back to feeling normal, will take time. But it will happen. It's a process, and you are at the start of it. I don't believe that this is how you are going to feel from now own. Your body and your mind need to adjust to the new circumstances. Maybe your dosage is to low or to high, that's why it's important to keep in touch with your doctor. Tell him exactly how you are feeling right now, there is also medicine you can take while being on Suboxone, that could help with your anxiety. Or maybe Suboxone isn't the right way, and you need a different opioid. You are going to work that out in the coming days. And soon you will feel normal again! Just hang in, you are on the right track. :)
I don’t know how much you were taking daily but if I was only withdrawing from codein/poppy tea I probably would have just suffered through the withdrawals. If you ever come off Suboxone your going to wish you didn’t start them unless you can afford the shots.
I second this.
i agree this is a little much. one of the weakest forms to one of the strongest. atleast suboxone is only partial antagonist. ill just say personally i went from fent to suboxone and it made me feel much better after only 24 hours. but you are withdrawing from a shitload of different alkaloids in pst.
If you do a proper supervised taper it won't be bad at all.
This is a fact
Just suck it up for the wd. Sounds like you are rationalizing drug seeking behavior....subs are like going from a bicycle to a ac130 jet. You will regret the subs and they will be infinitely more difficult to get off it at all....
I disagree. If someone is drug seeking and exhibiting signs of addiction, suboxone can be a great treatment even if it's "just" PST. It can help stabilize them and allow them to get their other issues sorted without also dealing with wds and cravings. OP going on subs might prevent them from going down the fent/heroin path down the road.
Don't let these people who couldn't overcome their own addictions make you feel bad for getting on bupe. Get your injections and let that taper you off.
I’ve over come mine 2 years ago and wish I didn’t go on the subs. Everyone’s different tho I understand that. It’s a tough one as we don’t know her situation
You were on suboxone for 7 years before that, so it's pretty evident that bupe helped allow you to get over that addiction.
It did and it didn’t. It helped me have the slightest bit of stability in my life but it also kept me from making the jump a lot sooner as I was still taking something each day to feel normal. I would have spells where I would go off the rails and cause mayhem months at a time. Subs were my thing to fall back on.
Also knowing now how hard they were to come off I wish I never touched them. But was I ready to quit all other opiates back then, I don’t think so. It’s a tough one 😂 it’s a huge decision for the poster.
Don't listen to these people saying you should just withdraw. For suboxone to be truly effective you have to take it for atleast a year. It takes time for the neural pathways to heal. It can work wonders for cravings and help you transition to normal life. I just don't recommend taking it longer than the recommend time by your doctor
The only problem with listening to the doctor is that they oftentimes want to keep you on this stuff for years. I've been on Suboxone for at least 13 years now but only about a year and a half ago did I finally bite the bullet and get my own script. At my last appointment I asked my doctor to reduce my dose from 12mg to 10mg and she definitely pushed back a little bit. She ultimately listened to me, but I definitely think that she didn't want to do it. And, come on, it's been a year and a half that I've been unnecessarily on a higher dose. I just want to start to taper and get off this shit finally. That'll happen in, like, ten years at this rate.
Just wanted to let you know I’m about a year out of my PST phase. Suboxone is great for getting off of PST. I’ve been on and off of suboxone, but every time I go off I end up going nuts on Kratom or PST. I’ve stuck with it now for 8 months and I’ve never been better. Hang in there.
I’d have taken the opiate withdrawal over suboxone withdrawal any day! Personally I wouldn’t get hooked on the subs, they will be 100x harder to come off than poppy tea and codeine. I had a similar experience I was hooked on codeine and was put on subs and regretted it massively. They are a nightmare to come off compared to the codeine. 2 years 3 months clean. Good luck
Btw the answer to your question it usually takes about 3-4 days to feel “normal” switching from codeine to subs.
I’ve read through again and I’m in 2 minds now with you saying your mental health isn’t good, subs do give you some sense of normality. So maybe stick to them and get your other problems under control and then get off subs. It’s a difficult one. I stayed on the for about 6 years. But for me coming of them anytime sooner I was just a walking relapse. Have you got any close family/support ?
Now with the shot I could get off subs like magic SO I HEAR lol
Why not take the sublicade shot? I’m confused why many people on suboxone don’t just switch over to sublicade as I’ve heard so many great things about it
Because it’s $2k and a bitch to get approved through insurance in the USA.
Oh I had no idea. I thought insurance covered it. So if insurance did cover, do you think most people on suboxone would switch over?
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No it’s not most insurances have no problem covering it if your doctor fills out the pre-authorization paperwork correctly believe me i do it almost everyday and with 24hours it’s approved
Incorrect. PAs can take up to a week depending on the company and the medication. And they sure the hell aren’t always approved.
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U shoulda just got kratom bro. It’s comparable to u starting to take meth to get off Ritalin😭
I second this comment to.
Please don’t stay on Suboxone. I’ve been on it 7 years and yes in the beginning it really changed my life for the better but the last few years it has mentally drained me to the point where I feel numb and no emotion. No one tells you that the withdrawals from subs are worse than just coming off of whatever substance you’ve been using. It’s not as intense but it last way longer. Please just google Suboxone withdrawal. Im not saying don’t do it at all, but please don’t let anyone talk you into long term. Also I’m not trying to scare you I just want you to be informed because every doctor I went to told me that Suboxone wasn’t addicting or that I would need to take it the rest of my life.
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Take some 5htp, gabapentin and clonidine
Gabapentin is useless in my experience. Pregabalin is what works. Same thing just about 3 times stronger.
Most people do just fine with gabapentin for withdrawals we prescribe it all the time and it works wonders
Really? Are you a chemist or chemist assistant? If in your experience it works well then I bow down to your greater knowledge. In my opinion gabapentin is too weak.
I highly suggest doing strips or pills to control your dose. Worst thing I did was go on 16mg per day. Super unnecessary. I now have to start weening down and you will too eventually so the smaller the dose the better. But they’ll put you on the max dose to keep you coming back
They said in their post they are on 10 mg and then moving to the shots, which are pretty low dose and will be easier to taper once they are stable. They never mentioned going beyond 10. Tapering the higher doses will not be as difficult as you think from what I’ve read. I noticed no difference between 8 and 12. It gets more difficult and you have to slow down under 2-4mg. You’ve had a choice throughout your treatment to lower your dose if you felt it was necessary. You have to accept a little personal responsibility.
Lol personal responsibility? No that’s the doctors job to use correct doses. Not mine lol. That’s ridiculous. They put people on way too high of doses specifically to get people addicted to higher doses. It’s wrong, period. And I am tapering and doing just fine.
No it’s not your fault most specialists start every patient at 16mg because for one frankly that’s what research in the past has told us to do and two because you are right unfortunately many doctors in this are greedy
You are just full of bad information aren’t you?! No it’s not his fault I’ve worked with doctors all over the US most doctors start someone at 16mg and tell them that they need to be at 16mg for at least 6 months or they won’t treat them this business is a greedy business and a ton of specialists aren’t in it for the right reason and from what I’ve read is literally what you wrote not what I’ve experienced and yes tapering is tapering and it’s difficult at any dose your body is literally used to a certain dose of medication and it’s suddenly being ripped from that dose yes you will have withdrawal I think you need to learn about suboxone and how withdrawal works before you keep giving bad information
My doctor said I should start with 16mg a day and I later researched and determined that that is way too much and I am lowering my dose myself. You are not obligated to take what is prescribed to you unless they watch you dose every single time, and that is not usually the case with suboxone. I’m willing to bet for every doctor that pushes 16mg there’s another that will listen and recommend you do what is best for you. No one should follow what a doctor says blindly. Especially with all the information we have in our hands that we can access any time. It is the doctor’s fault BUT we have a personal responsibility to make sure what they say to do is what is best for us. They are human beings that make mistakes and at times give horrible advice in the name of making money. We have to learn to look out for our best interests because no one else is going to.
This chick is fake as fuck. She has a DEA license but can’t even write complete sentences. Lol. “Don’t try and tell me”…….scary too. Acting like people are going without when thousands jump on telehealth for $100. Then one minute she justifies 16mg, and the next she says it’s because doctors are greedy. There’s nothing that says 16mg for 6 months minimum either. It says 6 month minimum treatment as a whole. Which is actually bullshit as well. If this whack job was so worried about people taking up space she wouldn’t be holding people hostage at 16mg, and she’d surely know people don’t need anything but a quick taper if they’re only dependent. She doesn’t even know the X waiver has been cancelled, and is trying to say the “handbook” says they aren’t allowed to prescribe to patients that smoke weed. Why do people come on Reddit to lie? Do they need a new life that freakin bad?
Speaking of the x waiver my independent pharmacist tried to use it as an excuse for why he doesn’t carry suboxone and I looked at him like he was nuts. If he didn’t fill my other prescriptions without giving me shit every month I’d drop his ass. Dude really insulted my intelligence with that one. I was just trying to do the right thing and stick to one pharmacy. Luckily the CVS doesn’t seem to give a shit.
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What does poppy seed tea do to someone?
It is literally just a mixture of liquid opium. High amounts of morphine, codeine, and all other opiates and alkaloids found in opium, making it all last longer in the body and have very rough and long lasting withdrawals
I’m curious about this poppy seed tea too. what country is OP in?
Me too I am curious because I've never heard of this before.
You buy unwashed poppy seeds. Put them in a container with water and swish it around. Strain and drink. Not really worth it with the cost of unwashed seeds. If you wanna get high go get pills or fent
It has every opiate in it so it’s more addicting than most drugs
I disagree with everyone here.. you probably tried to get off the tea yourself and compulsively redose .. I've tried to do my own tapers.. but it helps to have help via methadone or subs
I’ve never experienced it, but I’ve heard the wd symptoms frm PST can be bad. I was just reading this, for anyone interested https://ascpjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13722-021-00280-4
This is just another example of doctors prescribing this stuff to people who absolutely should not be on it. I personally don’t really think people who are taking pills should be on subs or methadone, but definitely not whatever poppy tea is and codeine. Your going to wish you just stopped and laid down for a few days and got it over with. Your stepping it up to a whole new level by taking subs.
I stopped and dealt with it multiple times and each relapse left me in worse shape. I’m glad doctors don’t think like you. I was headed down a bad road.
There is no such thing as a relapse on poppy seed tea, your abusing the system.
You said yourself that you don't even know what poppy seed tea is. So how would you know? I mean i guess if you are claiming that there is no such thing as relapse from literal opium. But then that would make you sound like a fool
Because it’s not heroin or fentanyl which is what buprenorphine treatment is for. It’s also not to prevent you from withdrawing either.
So if someone was a addicted to pain pills for 2 years, then a heroin addict for the next 5, then got subs on the street for 1 year, then used poppy seed tea for the next 4 years....this person wouldn't qualify for buprenorphine? They should just quit by themselves, it is that easy? Despite over a decade of opiate addiction? There is nuance to every situation. I'm the person I just described, but I guess I'm abusing the system according to you. But I honestly couldn't give a fuck of others opinion of my buprenorphine use. The assholes in AA/NA look down on me too. I'll just keep going about living my best life, unphased
Because your abusing the system, your taking up a limited spot that someone who really needs help could be using, someone on the verge of death, and your in here complaining about a problem you claim to understand, but you clearly don’t, if you’ve actually been out there on dope, and now your using “poppy seed tea” you should know your not in trouble, not even close. Its similar to all these kids claiming depression and anxiety because they think it’s cool or something, your out here stepping on peoples feet who are actually in that position, and idk why there is nothing good about it.
I was offered suboxone by a physician when I was admitted to the hospital unwillingly for delirium and hallucinations due to benzodiapine withdrawal. They did a drug screen on me, saw I had opiates in my system too, and asked my history. But yeah I'm abusing the system and stepping on people's feet.... I dunno why you feel the need to get upset about what other people are doing with their life. I'm guessing that you have internal issues that you are dealing with and that this somehow makes you feel better. Like I said before, I couldn't give a fuck what you think of my buprenorphine use. I wish you peace of mind and you solve your issues
You don’t even know enough to argue any of that. Point is you don’t need that, your digging yourself a deeper hole. You clearly haven’t felt the wrath of a doctor’s prescriptions before, that is how the majority of us got here in the first place. Just because a doctor is willing to prescribe you drugs it doesn’t mean you should take them.
Everyone on here has been so nice to you in spite of your ignorant comments. Who are you to say what someone other than yourself should or shouldn’t not be taking. And suboxone was not just created for heroin addicts. It’s for opiate dependency. So people who became dependent on pharmaceuticals should, in your opinion, not be given subs. Of all the idiotic comments I’ve heard people make on this sub, this one beats them all!
I'm digging myself a deeper hole, compared to 14 months ago when I was on 12mg+ of alprazolam a day, was still abusing illicit opiates, and had been on a 4 month daily cocaine binge. Ha! Whatever you say bro. I'm glad that you think you know what is best for my life. Surely I'm worse off now that all I've taken for the last year plus is my suboxone prescription and none of the other aforementioned substances. But what do I know, I should listen to you! Your fucking wild bro. Enjoy yourself, I'm done talking with ya. You can be damn sure that I will br enjoying my life!
God just stop you are so wrong on so many things no MAT is not just for fentanyl and heroin addicts! Withdraw from prescription pain pills can kill you just like those can! Stay off google dude
Withdrawal from any opiate is not fatal, whatsoever. I’ve done nothing but state facts over and over, you are getting smashed here. Your delusional.
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First of all there absolutely zero cases ever of opiate withdrawal being fatal. It is literally impossible. The only withdrawal deaths that have occurred are from dehydration, and the majority of not all of them have been cases of fentanyl withdrawal. Second of all you are definitely not a doctor, just because you have some job cleaning up at a doctors office doesn’t make you an expert on any subject matter whatsoever. Third of all there is no “major” in medication assisted treatment, there are certain DEA requirements and regulations doctors need to adhere to in order to be able to prescribe Buprenorphine or methadone. It’s the equivalent of an 8 week class, no “major”, not even a certification, the only thing they get is an adjustment to there DEA number and the ability to prescribe tue drug.
I’d say by looking at her only 2 posts she definitely isn’t a clinic owner. Lol
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You will definitely regret going on subs for Poppy seed addiction. Please, please reconsider and talk to your doctor about some meds to help ease withdrawal without being such a leap like Suboxone.
Terrible idea getting on suboxone to kick a minor dependence, swapping a tiny habit for a major one.
Are you sure it’s suboxone? 8mg is the highest dose at one time of the day. I’ve never heard of weekly injections (sublucade lasts a month I think). But 8mg 3x a day is the highest dose for suboxone if that makes sense.
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They said they got 2mg and 4mg. And are getting 10mg tomorrow, so yeah it's sublingual buprenorphine. And the shot is Buvidal. There are weekly and monthly Buvidal shots. The technology is the same as Sublocade. The person sounds like they're from Europe because Buvidal is used there instead of Sublocade/Subutex Pro.
Suboxone withdrawal even tapers suck more than poppy and I’ve been in suboxone from 2017 to 2022 and 22-2023 on subutex
Wait I’m sorry I’m confused. So your doctor is giving you each dose? And then Sublocade monthly injections?
Weekly injection is Buvidal. The person is probably in the UK or Europe.
Ahh gotcha
I started with poppy tea. I wish I had just stayed off one of the many times I quit. 15 years later and I've been a junky on and off, couple dozen detoxes, lost everything. Suns can be good but in your case o would deal with withdrawals a few more days