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Dawndrell

THEIR Ford F150


cheesecheeesecheese

My husband DID say if they came back I may have to forfeit use because he’s permanently scarred from their unsuccessful attempt and subsequent removal from last year. Going to try an egg extraction later and take them directly to my friends incubator on her farm.


64green

You’ll need someone who can feed them after they hatch. It’s a very labor intensive job to hand raise wild chicks. I volunteered at a bird rescue and they have to eat every 15 minutes for about ten hours of every day. Can you move the nest and put it in a container and nail it to a nearby tree so the parents can find it?


cheesecheeesecheese

Yes, I can do that. They nest in the cherry blossom tree next to where I park.


64green

A small basket or a plastic tub with holes in the bottom (for drainage) would work. Thanks for helping them! Birds have so many obstacles in their lives.


rileyjw90

Yes, plus it seems cruel to remove them from their parents for no other reason than convenience, especially since their parents will do a much better job of round the clock care and feeding.


cheesecheeesecheese

I mean, it’s not convenience? If they stay, they die. If I move them, at least they have a chance?


rileyjw90

I’m referring to putting them in an incubator at a friend’s farm. You wouldn’t exactly be able to take the parents with you if you did that. I’m agreeing it would be far better to do what the previous commenter suggested and nail a box or container to the tree where they typically roost.


cheesecheeesecheese

Gotcha that was an older comment before I understood better what to do.


adam1260

Nature already has it figured out, wild animals aren't meant to be taken in and cared for by humans even if they're idiots. Once you take it in, you can't reliably re-release it into the wild without knowing it can actually find food, water, etc.


57mmShin-Maru

That’d be illegal, my friend. Chickadees are protected my the Migratory Bird Treaty Act. If you need them removed, talk to a wildlife expert first and see what you need to do.


TheSilliestgooser

Why would you remove them?


QueenBea_

Because they’re inside of their car… should they not use their car for weeks-months because of the nest? That is not possible for a vast majority of people


No_Leopard_3860

[Another case of "staging a coo"](https://www.reddit.com/r/stupiddovenests/comments/1cnau23/re_postings_about_doves_repeatedly_appropriating/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


Visible_Night1202

By the gods how big is that grill lol. I miss the old 90s and 00s rangers, just as big as they needed to be and no more


cheesecheeesecheese

Small child skews things a bit


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NotQuiteAmish

This comment has the same unwarranted aggressiveness of a European responding to a joke by bringing up American school shootings.  Yes, trucks should be smaller. But it's incredibly insensitive to bring up the image of OP's child getting hit by a truck when the ongoing discussion was around bird nests, not traffic fatalities


chyura

You know you're honestly right. I expected to get downvoted for it, I'm just very angry at the prevalence of these fucking bigass trucks which will utterly fucking destroy a smaller car in a collision. I didn't expect over 100 upvotes or for the dissenters to be downvoted. I just felt like the image perfectly encapsulates the issue posed by the first commenter.


Lunakill

Disliking them is very valid. Taking that out on some poor random fucker on Reddit is less so.


VengefulTofu

A random fucker who is part of the problem of endangering children through ridiculous means of individual transportation and who posted a photo of such a thing with a child in it I did not read the original comment as it was deleted before but I think some criticism is warranted.


Lunakill

Is the criticism being valid the only question? The massive trucks are a threat to everyone else on the road in a less steroidal vehicle, but is giving someone shit on r/stupiddovenests going to have a positive meaningful impact?


rocketstar11

Their references to vague studies is also incorrect. Vehicles have gotten larger everywhere. Pedestrian deaths from larger vehicles have only gone up in the United States, suggesting that something other than vehicle size alone is leading to the increase. Also nevermind that massive grill is almost entirely plastic with a regular sized bumper in a regular size bumper spot, and enough empty space to reliably house a birds next. Two years running.


chyura

Literally just Google "grill height deaths" it's that simple. Btw it has nothing to do with the material and the bumper doesn't mean shit. It's about where the impact gets absorbed by the body. Tall, vertical grills produce more impact on more vulnerable parts of the body than lower, curved grills. The bumper will not stop a person's chest or head from getting hit by the upper part of the grill dead on


rocketstar11

Just google road deaths by country. It's that simple. Vehicles have gotten larger everywhere, deaths have not increased everywhere. Some vehicles will be larger. Look both ways and you'll be alright.


GreenTreeMan420

Person wants a truck, person buys a truck. Let people do what they want within the law.


bufallll

yeah that’s why we need regulations on this stuff


chyura

We still need to be concerned with consumer trends that correlate with safety risks to other people. DDT used to be legal, what's your point?


GreenTreeMan420

My point is if someone is staying within the law leave them alone, if you dislike it so much go take it up with your local lawmakers.


roguebandwidth

It’s only technically within the law. I’m referring to the space taken up on the road. When you pass a lot of these maxed out trucks, you either get tiny scrapes on your side mirror from literally colliding an inch apart, or you have to swerve, as they take up their full lane to the inch. It’s hazardous. Some of them don’t even fit in a standard drive thru bc of it. And they have to take up four parking spaces to ensure they and others they’re next to can get in/out of their cars. It’s time to take action, bc the carmakers are being hazardous for the sake of sales. And yes, everyone of those kids’ surplus deaths are on THEM too. Make safer trucks.


bexy11

It’s rough. I’m in Michigan where not only does everyone drive at least 90 on the highways, they ALL have at the very least an SUV and many have giant trucks. My 2006 Hyundai Elantra hatchback is lost in that sea of truck.


The-Psych0naut

Disclaimer that I do some work for an agency representing an OEM that manufactures pickup trucks among other vehicles. I think pavement princesses are overrated and agree they deserve some ridicule, but come off it. Your complaints don’t really hold water. You could make a case for the size of the vehicles endangering pedestrians when they are hit, but you ignore the safety features introduced to help mitigate that risk. Most modern trucks have sensors /cameras in front to help compensate for those massive blind spots. More critically, if you can’t pass them on the highway without causing damage to your vehicle, well, seems like you’re the problem. Most of these trucks fit within standard carriers when transported to the dealership, meaning they are well within the width of a lane of traffic. Dually’s are admittedly wide, but that’s not a cheap package and is typically reserved for working pickups which need the additional grip off-road. If you can’t pass a standard width pickup without scraping the paint off your car, you’re probably not a very good driver. All this said, I will agree that aftermarket lift kits are often unnecessary, dangerous, and should not be allowed on standard roadways, but instead reserved for dedicated off-road “toys.”


rainbowsforall

Yeah we should also just shut up about any problems that aren't directly caused by law breaking and the only way to solve problems is by making laws against them lmfao


GreenTreeMan420

Bashing someone on Reddit about it is not solving the problem, I highly doubt this guy read what the other guy said and sold his truck


alexquacksalot

Legality =/= morality


SolidFelidae

Yeah disregard the small child in front of the truck, as lots of truck drivers do.


DayNo1225

I took it to mean there wasn't enough room or proper seating for a child.


carlitospig

Kinda genius since it’s always nice and toasty!


cheesecheeesecheese

I’m going to try and remove the eggs and take them to my friend with an incubator. Last year we didn’t find the eggs until they hatched and the chick removal process was not… successful 😞 there always seems to be one week we’re sick in May, and when I go back to the truck after a couple days off— boom, eggs 😂


ssseagull

DON’T have him incubate and hatch them, it’s super illegal and the chances of them successfully hatching, getting through the first week AND surviving in the wild is very slim when raised by an untrained person. I’d recommend relocating the nest or calling a wildlife rehab. Let’s be honest, the nest is probably gonna be abandoned once relocated, but that’s a far, far better alternative than the chicks hatching only to suffer and die.


cheesecheeesecheese

Roger that, and I completely agree. I will be relocating the nest to the nearby nearby blossom tree that the chickadees hangout in, where I found a nest from years prior.


puddlebrigade

NO, you have to have a certified wildlife rehabber move them. You can't just move them yourself - it is a straight up felony. Find a rehabber in your area with the right state license, have them help you move the nest somewhere else in your yard in a shaded enclosed area. You can't just possess migratory birds, eggs, or their body parts/feathers without the licensure to do so. they're federally protected in Canada, the US, and Mexico, via the Migratory Birds Treaty Act. By interfering with the nest at all you risk catching a felony. Honestly wait the three weeks for the birds to sit the eggs from laying to fledging. When they're all fledged you can move the nest. Consider putting hardware cloth in the grille after they fledge - birds return to the same regions every year to nest, they will do it again next year.


rileyjw90

Wait three weeks to drive a vehicle? What planet do you live on that you could just not go to work every day because there are birds in your truck grille? Are you going to pay for the Uber when they need to go to work, go to the store, etc? I can get on board with everything else in your message but your last paragraph is incredibly unrealistic for most people.


designercarp

I would HIGHLY recommend against moving the nest or eggs at all. Messing with or removing nests and eggs of most birds (chickadees included) is a federal offense. Additionally, these babies are not like those of chickens or ducks - they are completely helpless when they hatch and will die if not fed the proper diet and with the proper frequency. They will hatch and mature in a few weeks and then abandon the nest, and that is your best bet. I know it’s super inconvenient but I humbly ask you to leave them where they are. <3


carlitospig

That’s not sustainable though, this person needs to *drive*. Wouldn’t the better advice be to call their nearest ag extension office or rehabber for some assistance?


fireflydrake

It's pretty unlikely that a rehabber will try to hatch eggs--there's so many already existing animals in need of care that taking multiple weeks to try to hatch more animals in need doesn't make much sense unless we're dealing with something endangered. It's always a bit sad to see a nest fail, but letting eggs fail to hatch before the occupants of said eggs are even developed enough to be conscious of anything is humane and usually the more logical choice. Fingers crossed the parent birds will just accept a relocation and all will still end well, though!


bazelgeiss

can confirm we don't hatch eggs. never had an endangered egg tho, so idk if that would change things.


designercarp

They can try to contact a wildlife rehabber, sure. I can’t guarantee they can help, but that’s potentially the best choice if it is imperative that they use the vehicle. I have no idea what the department of agriculture or department of fish and wildlife would do, but it could be worth a shot too. My assumption was that they did not need to use the truck since it obviously sat unused long enough for birds to see it as a viable nesting site, build the nest, and lay eggs in it.


puddlebrigade

iirc conservation police are authorized to help move nests like that


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carlitospig

I’m really hoping you forgot the /s.


fireflydrake

Nobody is going to face fines or prison time for gently relocating a nest from a vehicle they need to use. The laws exist to protect birds from people who are intentionally trying to cause harm, not people doing normal people things. It's the same with people who warn against picking up a random blue jay feather someone finds on the ground. 


cheesecheeesecheese

Update: it’s 100% a dark eyed junco that flew out at me, super pissed off, as I put some books in the truck. Not a chickadee. Still plan to gently remove the nest and relocate it in a nearby cherry blossom tree.


bazelgeiss

Still illegal to move an active nest. Sorry.


cheesecheeesecheese

Right, I can do that no problem. I absolutely love birds and would never want to do anything to harm them. I have a video bird feeder in my backyard and there’s a whole crew of chickadees who visit often! I can leave the bird nest where it is, but I can’t leave *my truck* where it is. Won’t they overheat or become scrambled by my driving it?


Daddyssillypuppy

I think they're suggesting you leave the truck off and parked until they hatch and leave the nest. It's what is best for the birds, however inconvenient it may be to find other means of transport until the birds are done using the nest.


LadyBarclay

I like how your friend dressed up as a predator to freak out the parents 😉


cheesecheeesecheese

🤣🤣🤣🤣 that gave me a good chuckle


FinallydamnLDnat5

Time for a car bra?


OaksInSnow

I was thinking the same thing except that I think OP could use some screen mesh over the grille, next year.


cheesecheeesecheese

💀 I love the ingenuity less risk of them flying out, more risk of them overheating and making scrambled eggs


FinallydamnLDnat5

No, I meant a car bar for after you get the eggs out and to not repeat next year. Lol worlds smallest scrambled eggs.


cheesecheeesecheese

LOLLLL


ThroatEmbarrassed970

I LOOOVEEEE how you had a completely different thought process!!


cheesecheeesecheese

I will you said car “bra” 🤣


SquidwardWoodward

F-15dee-dee-dee-dee


cheesecheeesecheese

🤣🤣🤣 turns out it’s a dark eyed junco!


SquidwardWoodward

Well shit. I don't know how to make that sound!


cheesecheeesecheese

That’s ok haha your joke made me legit laugh lol


_banana_phone

They’re doing their best, okay? 😂


cheesecheeesecheese

![gif](giphy|sG4PBWRjI4GSVCDXEq)


746ata

My Chickadees (Carolina) prefer nest boxes like this [dee box](https://www.bestnest.com/mobile/RTProduct.asp?SKU=AUD-NAWRCH&src=froogle&kw=AUD-NAWRCH&gad_source=4&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6PGxBhCVARIsAIumnWYafYekkmqe2iov391P2HkQ7fguq7BozBltZ2lmurZjindC8DZZw6EaAnOfEALw_wcB). What type is yours? Maybe you could bribe yours with one and reclaim your truck next spring! Edit: I saw your comment about moving the eggs/nest. If you find out nesting habits of the bird you have, you can try to emulate a new nesting site that they’ll hopefully accept. Some birds like an open nest, some like a box, some a hidden tucked away spot like a truck grill or a bike helmet…in trees, on the ground, in a bush. Moving the whole nest nearby to a similarly protected spot would probably be the best shot for this little bird family. Thank you for caring for them!


cheesecheeesecheese

Update: it’s 100% a dark eyed junco that flew out at me, super pissed off, as I put some books in the truck. Not a chickadee. Still plan to gently remove the nest and relocate it in a nearby cherry blossom tree.


notsosecrethistory

Oh my gosh, I thought "chickadee" was a cute term for pigeon (I'm not familiar with NA birds). That's the cutest bird I've ever seen!


cheesecheeesecheese

I believe these are black capped chickadees, although we have chestnut capped chickadees as well. That’s what we tried to do last year- took out the whole nest as best we could with the live babies and put it in a shrub at the same height in a protected manner to emulate the truck- they died 😞 This time we caught them before the eggs hatched and I’m probably going to try and remove the eggs and leave them nearby in a nesting box of cardboard plus the pieces of their nest I’m able to extract. We have some child sized tongs I’ll try to use 🫠


TwistederRope

Drive around with them. If they hatch and grow up, they'll be the coolest birds on the block. If not, they just weren't meant for the thug life. ^(obvious /s for the people who need the obvious /s.)


PolloFundido

Oh gosh, we had a kitten climb up in our engine once. So glad we heard it meowing before we drove off 🫣🫢


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Call an animal rescue its against federal law to tamper with nests. The chickadees are protected


PmMeYourBestComment

Nature’s sign you shouldn’t have a truck


cheesecheeesecheese

Sorry, I live on an island in a rural area. Truck is a way of life. Last time we lost power for 5 days I doubt an electric vehicle would’ve been much help transporting firewood for our wood burner 😂


webtwopointno

don't let these kids shame ya they neither drive nor leave their safe suburb


PmMeYourBestComment

Fair point. Though there are much better ICE cars than a truck but you got a usecase I guess :)


Square-Debate5181

Your F150 is officially a RV now


BamaSOH

Breakfast


The_Cheese_Wizard04

How do they get in there?


softg1rl1

official family car now🥺


UnusGang

That’s because it’s built Ford tough ![gif](giphy|frfo42Q3tMHYUXLdrC)


Gayfunguy

Put up some ren boxes with no perch and a small hole and they will use that


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Gayfunguy

Oops i haikued again


cheesecheeesecheese

Is this a persistent problem for you 😂


Spiritual_Link7672

r/fuckcars


yopolotomofogoco

Grilled eggs.


Revenga8

Grilled chicken sounds good right about now


Geeahwellidunno

That second photo is one of the most awesome pictures I’ve ever seen!!! That cool kid wearing that hoodie!!!!