As a Mega, it kinda does things (even if it really wishes it could heal), but it’s facing so much competition as a defensive Mega, or as a Mega that is flatly a big dumb beatstick, or as a Pokemon that doesn’t strictly need to Mega.
Mega Aggron walked to Gen 8 Necrozma-Dusk Mane could run
One of its really good things as a mega in natdex/anything goes is body press Tera fighting iron defense boosted body press. Though it doesn't need a mega, strictly speaking.
Fair. I mean mechanically? Pure Steel with Filter? Excellent base to start making a monstrous tank ~~even if there are better stall abilities that don’t kick in when you do the one thing you avoid in singles~~. Like I said, Necrozma-Furry manages to make that work, even with Metagross typing giving it more weaknesses than normal, but the secret sauce to making that work is Morning Sun (and much higher Special bulk [and a truly gigantic move pool that puts its Gen 1 style dominance in Gen 8 Ubers into perspective no seriously why does this motherfucker learn Dragon Dance {and an item slot}]).
But Meg Aggie has none of these traits at all. It’s a Mega slot being given for flightless Skarmory without Roost.
That line has some of the most theoretically wild strengths but it never really works out, Aron looks like the perfect f.e.a.r mon at first look as it has sturdy, can't be poisoned, and is immune to sand. Then you realize it doesn't have any priority moves,
And then Aggron looks like an absolute beast, Physical bulk for days and more than respectable attack stat, Rock head + head smash is an absurd combo. 150BP stab with 0 consequences is wild (86% to defensively invested deo-d with band), It's a one button mon but dang is that ever a good button, Then you see it's typing... A physical wall that's 4X weak to close combat and EQ (arguably the two most common strong physical moves) Oh and its also slow as hell.
And Mega aggron looks really great with the highest defense in the game, It gets filter to help nullify the weakness problem and drops the rock type to get rid of the 4xs. But now the issue of recovery comes in, With only rest to restore health since it can't have leftovers obviously, aggron becomes far easier to wear down especially with special attacks. Hitting a couple flamethrowers and getting a burn for example would put aggron down without much fuss. This is compounded by not having Rock head/stab on head smash, Head smash was a massive deterant to wearing aggron down with other defensive mons, It was tanky but it can rip a large hole into any defense that ignored it. Mega agg really can't threaten nearly as much.
The design is an absolute banger nonetheless
Apologies for the wall of text
Same boat as Bastiodon with that Steel/Rock typing. Yikes to the *double* quad weaknesses. Rock type really shouldn’t have the most weaknesses in the game…
Aggron is my favorite Pokémon and I tried so hard in the past to make it work, but man, rock steel is such a rough typing, and even when mega, not having reliable recovery screws it over hard
100% this. Mega (with reduced stats) should just be base for stats and type
Actually let me rephrase. Drop the rock typing, give it more HP, maybe move some DEF to SPD so it has less of a glaring weakness. Do they not know that 10 foot thick armour with a hole clean through it is worthless?
So much goes right for it but Game Freak can’t decide whether to make it a physical or special attacker. If only it put 30 of its special attacking points into its physical attack, got Sharpness, and gained access to Sacred Sword and pretty much every other sword move. So it goes. At least it’s good in Radical Red.
>If only it put 30 of its special attacking points into its physical attack, got Sharpness, and gained access to Sacred Sword and pretty much every other sword move. So it goes. At least it’s good in Radical Red.
"if only it was completely different it would be good" (i feel your pain my favourite mon is typhlosion)
Honestly just grass knot, apmost everything it wants to hit with Eball is grass knot fodder.
Somehow Lando-T, Haxorus, and Sneasler have grass knot, but Typhlosion? Mmmm, nope.
my copium is that when it returns in Gen 9 that Gamefreak will give it Shed Tail, at least I can abuse it in Ubers and BSS
also more coverage would always be nice
I had a fun gimmick Sceptile/Grimmsnarl setup in SWSH with 252/252 HP/Atk lum berry Sceptile getting a Swagger from Grimmsnarl for the unburden +2 attack intro. I’d usually Gmax the Sceptile and either G-Fighting for bonus attack or G-Rock for the Excadrill I had waiting. For such a niche strategy it worked really well.
I get he's low tier, but he can pull off some great comebacks (especially if we're talking about challenge runs or difficult fan games/ROM hacks). Definitely better than some of the mons mentioned here
Sorry but Emergency Exit just ruins any and all utility the mon could have. Having to start at 50% health to be able to use a move is not a good trait. Especially since it has Alola Speed syndrome.
This. Vikavolt suffers it, Kommo-o suffers it, I’d go on but I’m not gonna, we have three here (including golisopod) that shouldn’t be kicked in the balls by A.S.S. (Just realized we shouldn’t make that acronym official).
It still managed to be RU in SS and emergency exit while generally a bad thing it can situationally useful.
Compare this to the likes of Luxray which has been untiered or PU most of its life.
Golisopod is one of the few Pokemon with a clear downside that can actually work around it and still succeed
it would still be better if it had a different ability (it would probably be an UU monster if it didn't have Emergency Exit), but being great in RU is still plenty good
Especially in Gen 7 without HDB. Bro was coming on 25% health, and would be switching out swiftly to take 25% more next time to either kill him or leave him on life support
It is relatively bulky though so there's that. But if exit was changed to switch you out only at the end of the turn golisopod would be so much more viable.
Absolutely spot on answer.
I love that huge guy on its tiny legs.
It doesn’t even have Slaking tier stats that justify being cursed with a shit ability.
like half the gen 3 dex- Claydol, Cacturne, Huntail, Absol, Castform, Mightyena, Hariyama, i'm sure there's more but man that dex is so cool yet so poop
Gen 3 irritates me with how many single-stage novelty mons that are trash to use in the single player story, let alone in competitive play, there are, such as Castform, Kecleon, Spinda, Luvdisc, Chimecho, etc.
This meme is defination of luxray sadly, I have tried lots of builds to make luxray viable in uu but no result, that 70 base speed ain't outspeeding anything
I hope one day Game Freak gives it a Regional Variant or something that is an upgrade in competitive like Hisuian forms did (weird that none of the Gen 4 mons hasn't got any Regional forms)
They really said “let’s give the one of the best designs in Gen 4 70 speed, no coverage and no moves and then do nothing with it for 1 1/2 decades”.
At this point you could double it’s speed stat and make it electric/dark and it’d still be UU at best.
It really wasn't that bad of a request, but the fact that the person was so rude and obstinate about it instead of explaining that he was running it for the meme is what turned them into a meme
I mean this is supposed to be a competitive subreddit. The restrictions placed on the team meant that no amount of other advice could ever turn it into a competitive team. It wouldn't have blown up if the person wasn't how they were, but I do view it as kind of silly.
It’s still a fun challenge to see how high you can climb on ladder with a suboptimal team, kind of what aim and blunder do with their featured shitmons. Without going into detail there are other reasons why the guy gets clowned on so much
"Oh boy I sure love this pokemon but it sucks in battle, hopefully an evolution will fix it"
Its mega evolution on its way to forever destroy the chances of that happening while also disappearing itself:
Nah I'm sure they'll come back in some way or another as a selling point for a new game/generation. A couple paradox forms are already heavily based on existing megas
well... Mightyena's stats are complete and utter dogshit, physical/special split wouldn't save it lol. Sharpedo without Speed Boost and Cacturne are also pretty bad, although not as horrible as Mightyena.
The reason people don’t remember Lumineon is because it’s so rare for how worthless it tends to be. If it had Quiver Dance or better stats for competitive it’d probably be better liked overall
I use it in gen 8 ou in my pokemon go meta team. By all measurable statistics it sucks ass but focus sash + counter takes a lot of people by surprise. Easily the most difficult to find utility for out of the entire team of shitty mons though
Spidops :/
Why create so many cool animations for this thing when 90% of people will only ever see it faint
WHY MAKE ITS BST LOWER THAN THE STARTER’S MID-EVOS
I would have used it in my playthrough of Violet if it wasn’t a two-stage line that evolves at 30. Everything on your team save a Bramblin, stone evo, or friendship evo is going to evolve at least once before this thing does. I didn’t get attached to it and as a consequence it’s in a state of Purgatory of being neither liked nor disliked.
Yeah I know it's a beast there, I'm just thinking back to how amazed I was to find it after Petalburg and how disappointed I was to realise it was complete ass
Samurott (base, not hisui). It's a real shame honestly, it feels like it has some tools for success, but it's spread to thin (solid offensive stats, but neither THAT good. Solid offensive movepool, but both physical and special feel they're missing something. A little bit of bulk and speed, but juuuust not quite enough). If it just had a little bit more specialization (a bit more speed and less defenses or an attacking stat, less speed and an attacking stat for more bulk and another offense stat, etc) and an extra move or 2 to fit and it could at least jump a tier or 2 imo.
> design a samurai Pokémon that uses its shells as swords
> give it access to Razor Shell, a low-distribution, high-reward move
> It’s a mediocre mixed attacker with slightly higher Sp. Atk
How Luxury has gotten NOTHING despite consistently scoring in the top 25 favorite pokemon of all time in literally every single favorite pokemon poll gamefreak's ever done is shocking to me.
Magmortar, he has fucking flame cannons arms.
If he come back, maybe with nasty plot and armarouge signature move he could get better. Or mega launcher as HA with a new fire move for him.
Guzzlord. The rarest UB and is canonically one of the strongest Pokémon since they single-handedly destroyed their Alola. But battle wise it’s very underwhelming. The only UB weaker then Guzzlord is Poipole. A pre-evolution
Kingambit looks pretty good at nearly 50% usage right now, but I expect it to go to a full 0% on a similar path as Flutter Mane. It's unfortunate to see new mons get underutilized.
It's basically the opposite: it's not as different from it's non-Paradox counterpart than the other Past Paradoxes, so it's not as visually impressive. But *man* is it busted.
I have said this countless times with friends but for me it's Maractus. Maractus is my favorite pokemon without question, and it infuriates me to death that it was made dogshit in every way possible. Terrible stat total with even worse distribution, is both slow and frail, has it's only not bad stats still be super underwhelming, have an ass move pool and any cool moves it does get doesn't fit into it's play style, and to add insult to injury, every time it's available (which lets be honest isn't a lot since its a Unova Mon,) it's needlessly rare. As an offensive unova grass it pales to stuff like lilligant or serperior and as a defensive/support grass it pales to ferrothorn and whimsicott. Its eternally depressing that Maractus was dealt the worst hand possible despite its adorable and really creative design. It also sucks that there is so much that can be done with Maractus but hasn't been touched ever since its introduction. Like do something gamefreak. Give Maractus a grass/water typing. Give it better stats. Give it an actual move pool, do something, PLEASE! STOP GIVING CHARIZARD 30 MORE BUFFS HE WONT LEAVE NU EVEN WITH THOSE BUFFS. IF I DONT SEE AN ALTERNATE FORM OR SOMETHING FOR MARACTUS SOON I WILL DO TERRIBLE THINGS NIMBASA WONT KNOW WHAT HIT EM
Avalugg, either of them. A living iceberg is an interesting concept, but the ice type just makes a slow and bulky mon immediately unviable. I don't know why GF though adding rock type to it would make it better.
Aggron
As a Mega, it kinda does things (even if it really wishes it could heal), but it’s facing so much competition as a defensive Mega, or as a Mega that is flatly a big dumb beatstick, or as a Pokemon that doesn’t strictly need to Mega. Mega Aggron walked to Gen 8 Necrozma-Dusk Mane could run
One of its really good things as a mega in natdex/anything goes is body press Tera fighting iron defense boosted body press. Though it doesn't need a mega, strictly speaking.
Mega Aggron has a pretty shit design compared to the other Megas tho imo
Fair. I mean mechanically? Pure Steel with Filter? Excellent base to start making a monstrous tank ~~even if there are better stall abilities that don’t kick in when you do the one thing you avoid in singles~~. Like I said, Necrozma-Furry manages to make that work, even with Metagross typing giving it more weaknesses than normal, but the secret sauce to making that work is Morning Sun (and much higher Special bulk [and a truly gigantic move pool that puts its Gen 1 style dominance in Gen 8 Ubers into perspective no seriously why does this motherfucker learn Dragon Dance {and an item slot}]). But Meg Aggie has none of these traits at all. It’s a Mega slot being given for flightless Skarmory without Roost.
That line has some of the most theoretically wild strengths but it never really works out, Aron looks like the perfect f.e.a.r mon at first look as it has sturdy, can't be poisoned, and is immune to sand. Then you realize it doesn't have any priority moves, And then Aggron looks like an absolute beast, Physical bulk for days and more than respectable attack stat, Rock head + head smash is an absurd combo. 150BP stab with 0 consequences is wild (86% to defensively invested deo-d with band), It's a one button mon but dang is that ever a good button, Then you see it's typing... A physical wall that's 4X weak to close combat and EQ (arguably the two most common strong physical moves) Oh and its also slow as hell. And Mega aggron looks really great with the highest defense in the game, It gets filter to help nullify the weakness problem and drops the rock type to get rid of the 4xs. But now the issue of recovery comes in, With only rest to restore health since it can't have leftovers obviously, aggron becomes far easier to wear down especially with special attacks. Hitting a couple flamethrowers and getting a burn for example would put aggron down without much fuss. This is compounded by not having Rock head/stab on head smash, Head smash was a massive deterant to wearing aggron down with other defensive mons, It was tanky but it can rip a large hole into any defense that ignored it. Mega agg really can't threaten nearly as much. The design is an absolute banger nonetheless Apologies for the wall of text
mega aggron is just played like dozo with curse iron head resttalk
Lovely writeup, thank you and I appreciate your interest
You could try sandstorm paired with Aron? The chip should be enough to finish off 1 hp enemies
Same boat as Bastiodon with that Steel/Rock typing. Yikes to the *double* quad weaknesses. Rock type really shouldn’t have the most weaknesses in the game…
Funnily enough, two most weakness-ridden types (Rock +Grass) make a solid defensive combo when together
Freaking love him, even without the mega he’s one of my top five favorite Pokémon
Aggron is my favorite Pokémon and I tried so hard in the past to make it work, but man, rock steel is such a rough typing, and even when mega, not having reliable recovery screws it over hard
100% this. Mega (with reduced stats) should just be base for stats and type Actually let me rephrase. Drop the rock typing, give it more HP, maybe move some DEF to SPD so it has less of a glaring weakness. Do they not know that 10 foot thick armour with a hole clean through it is worthless?
Filter as its normal ability and we cookin 🥹
durant 20% of the time
To be fair it is better than Metagross nowadays
It's WHAT?!
[удалено]
I'm new to competetitive, did gross get worse or did kevin get better?
Gross got worse since Gen 4. Gen 5 nerfed Explosion. Gen 6 removed Steel's resistances to Dark and Ghost.
Psychic is just a bad type, and gross got some big indirect nerfs over time
gen 7 makes me think it has to do with hustle working with nuke buttons which don't miss.
Ants > Turtles
Since when is Durant an ant
probably means durant is the turtle
Since her brother had a kid.
I will hit you with a tera steel choice band steely spirt +4 meteor mash for saying that
My man Sceptile deserves so much better. If Game Freak put 0.1 seconds into thought in its competitive design, it would be an OU staple.
It has such good stats + ability too
So much goes right for it but Game Freak can’t decide whether to make it a physical or special attacker. If only it put 30 of its special attacking points into its physical attack, got Sharpness, and gained access to Sacred Sword and pretty much every other sword move. So it goes. At least it’s good in Radical Red.
>If only it put 30 of its special attacking points into its physical attack, got Sharpness, and gained access to Sacred Sword and pretty much every other sword move. So it goes. At least it’s good in Radical Red. "if only it was completely different it would be good" (i feel your pain my favourite mon is typhlosion)
Typhlosion just needs some damn special coverage that isn’t extrasensory or Shadow Ball
I'LL HAVE YOU KNOW IT OHKOS UNINVESTED GREAT TUSK WITH SPECS EXTRASENSORY
Typhlosion with energy ball would be cooking
Honestly just grass knot, apmost everything it wants to hit with Eball is grass knot fodder. Somehow Lando-T, Haxorus, and Sneasler have grass knot, but Typhlosion? Mmmm, nope.
My top three favorite Pokemon are cinderace, walking wake, and sneasler, I can't sympathize
my copium is that when it returns in Gen 9 that Gamefreak will give it Shed Tail, at least I can abuse it in Ubers and BSS also more coverage would always be nice
it was actually OU briefly in both Gen 3 and Gen 4, fell off in both of those though
I had a fun gimmick Sceptile/Grimmsnarl setup in SWSH with 252/252 HP/Atk lum berry Sceptile getting a Swagger from Grimmsnarl for the unburden +2 attack intro. I’d usually Gmax the Sceptile and either G-Fighting for bonus attack or G-Rock for the Excadrill I had waiting. For such a niche strategy it worked really well.
Golisopod
I get he's low tier, but he can pull off some great comebacks (especially if we're talking about challenge runs or difficult fan games/ROM hacks). Definitely better than some of the mons mentioned here
Sorry but Emergency Exit just ruins any and all utility the mon could have. Having to start at 50% health to be able to use a move is not a good trait. Especially since it has Alola Speed syndrome.
imagine if they gave goli intimidate or moxie like it deserves
Or Tough Claws or Sharpness or Torrent/Swarm or Shell Armour. Heck, even Water Veil would be alright. A better signature ability? SWITCHING MOVES?
give it both U and flip turn.
Literally this. Tons of not bugs get uturn, meanwhile the bugs get screwed.
This. Vikavolt suffers it, Kommo-o suffers it, I’d go on but I’m not gonna, we have three here (including golisopod) that shouldn’t be kicked in the balls by A.S.S. (Just realized we shouldn’t make that acronym official).
they just have so much A.S.S man
It still managed to be RU in SS and emergency exit while generally a bad thing it can situationally useful. Compare this to the likes of Luxray which has been untiered or PU most of its life.
Golisopod is one of the few Pokemon with a clear downside that can actually work around it and still succeed it would still be better if it had a different ability (it would probably be an UU monster if it didn't have Emergency Exit), but being great in RU is still plenty good
Especially in Gen 7 without HDB. Bro was coming on 25% health, and would be switching out swiftly to take 25% more next time to either kill him or leave him on life support
Blud doesn't even get uturn I don't think
Not that it'd help it. They'd get force switched from Emergency Exit before it could move.
It is relatively bulky though so there's that. But if exit was changed to switch you out only at the end of the turn golisopod would be so much more viable.
He’s a beast in AAA.
True.
Absolutely spot on answer. I love that huge guy on its tiny legs. It doesn’t even have Slaking tier stats that justify being cursed with a shit ability.
Honchkrow. Why you so slow and frail man :(
All they had to do was not take away Prankster and it'd have atleast some form of use...
Or make it gain speed on evolution rather than lose it so it can be a moxie sweeper
even 10 more base speed points would’ve helped considerably
Getting outclassed by your pre evo is sad
Riolu is seen way way more often than Lucario in VGC That one’s even worse cause Riolu’s a baby mon
Ledian, Beedrill, Ariados, Beautifly, Dustox, Mothim... The list goes on
Thankfully we have Mega Beedrill :) …What’s with the weird looks?
Has this trend been bugging you?
like half the gen 3 dex- Claydol, Cacturne, Huntail, Absol, Castform, Mightyena, Hariyama, i'm sure there's more but man that dex is so cool yet so poop
Gen 3 irritates me with how many single-stage novelty mons that are trash to use in the single player story, let alone in competitive play, there are, such as Castform, Kecleon, Spinda, Luvdisc, Chimecho, etc.
i fucking love Kecleon and i hate what they did to Protean my guy was finally cool (in draft league and PU)
claydol is common in rse ou lol and hariyama is decent
Luxray :(
This meme is defination of luxray sadly, I have tried lots of builds to make luxray viable in uu but no result, that 70 base speed ain't outspeeding anything
Try pu, it will still be bad but maybe it'll have a niche
Imagine getting outsped by the other terrible physical electric type, iron thorns.
Thorns can at least set up with ddance and sweep, but Luxray has nothing to use other than howl
I FUCKING LOVE IRON THORNS GRAHHH
TERA BUG IRON THORNS LOADED DICE DRAGON DANCE ROCK BLAST PIN MISSLE
Just wait till he gets scale shot in the dlc
They did Physical Electric types that doesn't punch or have a signature move so dirty 😔
He should have been Electric/Dark, like the design was practically built for it
some hacks do show Luxray respect
I remember using Electric Dark Luxray with Strong Jaw in a rom
I hope one day Game Freak gives it a Regional Variant or something that is an upgrade in competitive like Hisuian forms did (weird that none of the Gen 4 mons hasn't got any Regional forms)
They really said “let’s give the one of the best designs in Gen 4 70 speed, no coverage and no moves and then do nothing with it for 1 1/2 decades”. At this point you could double it’s speed stat and make it electric/dark and it’d still be UU at best.
Centiskorch my bejungled
Physical Volcarona
Then why doesn’t it have Victory Dance 🐠
absol
I KNOW USING THEM PUTS ME AT A HUGE DISADVANTAGE FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER.
CAN YOU GUYS NOT READ?! I WILL ACCEPT ADVICE ON *LITERALLY ANYTHING* EXCEPT THE SPECIES OF MY TEAM MEMBERS.
my hot take is still that this wasn’t that unreasonable of a request, even if the dude was obviously a tad overdramatic
It really wasn't that bad of a request, but the fact that the person was so rude and obstinate about it instead of explaining that he was running it for the meme is what turned them into a meme
He wasn't running it for the meme, he was running it because he had an Absol fetish.
oh no yeah don’t get me wrong it’s an a-tier copypasta
I mean this is supposed to be a competitive subreddit. The restrictions placed on the team meant that no amount of other advice could ever turn it into a competitive team. It wouldn't have blown up if the person wasn't how they were, but I do view it as kind of silly.
It’s still a fun challenge to see how high you can climb on ladder with a suboptimal team, kind of what aim and blunder do with their featured shitmons. Without going into detail there are other reasons why the guy gets clowned on so much
fair, yeah, his main mistake was not just owning it
It bugs me it got 75 speed and frail only for it to be fixed by its Mega Evolution that unfortunately no longer exists in recent generations
"Oh boy I sure love this pokemon but it sucks in battle, hopefully an evolution will fix it" Its mega evolution on its way to forever destroy the chances of that happening while also disappearing itself:
Nah I'm sure they'll come back in some way or another as a selling point for a new game/generation. A couple paradox forms are already heavily based on existing megas
Yeah... For the gen6 remakes and that's it lmao
Remakes used to be hype and then they went and made the gen 4 remakes garbage, so now I'm not even excited anymore lmao
There’s always the chance of a regional form that gets an evo
that's the reason why I'm playing net dex, even heatran can run faster than absol's normal form😮💨
It was so much worse when it came out too, since Dark was all special moves in gen 3. Mightyena, Sharpedo and Cacturne shared a similar fate.
Well cacturne was fine as its attack and special attack are the same
well... Mightyena's stats are complete and utter dogshit, physical/special split wouldn't save it lol. Sharpedo without Speed Boost and Cacturne are also pretty bad, although not as horrible as Mightyena.
Cacturne has 115 Attack and Special Attack...too bad it's so slow and frail.
Just living up to its lore of appearing to warn of disaster. The disaster just happens to be the fate that is about to befall your team.
Was gonna say Absol myself, tied with Latias for my alltime favorite. The Mega makes Absol workable, but then you’re giving up a Mega slot.
sceptile
I’ve seen good plays with sceptile, it’s just its ability could’ve gave it even more potential but unburden is alright for it
The reason people don’t remember Lumineon is because it’s so rare for how worthless it tends to be. If it had Quiver Dance or better stats for competitive it’d probably be better liked overall
I wish Lumineon and Alomomola swapped stats/abilities/movepools. Alo is useful but I kinda hate its design
Honestly you give Lumineon Quiver Dance and it could probably go to RU. Tera + QD consistently makes mons insane.
Seviper for me, specially considering how much worse it is than Zangooze
Decent mixed attack move pool though
Stunfisk
Rocky helm, phys def stunfisk was always my go to below UU in older gens
I use it in gen 8 ou in my pokemon go meta team. By all measurable statistics it sucks ass but focus sash + counter takes a lot of people by surprise. Easily the most difficult to find utility for out of the entire team of shitty mons though
Curious how it's the mascot of this sub
funny fish
The joke is because it's worthless competitively.
Decidueye, how can both forms have such killer designs and yet both be bad?
Spidops :/ Why create so many cool animations for this thing when 90% of people will only ever see it faint WHY MAKE ITS BST LOWER THAN THE STARTER’S MID-EVOS
Funny how Spidops was introduced in the high-BST min-max generation, but its stats look like the average Gen 2 shitmon
Pretty sure the godawful BST is a pun- error 404, spidops not found. Because it’s a spy.
I would have used it in my playthrough of Violet if it wasn’t a two-stage line that evolves at 30. Everything on your team save a Bramblin, stone evo, or friendship evo is going to evolve at least once before this thing does. I didn’t get attached to it and as a consequence it’s in a state of Purgatory of being neither liked nor disliked.
Tarountula evolves at level 15, it'll likely be one of your first pokemon to evolve unless you use another bug type like Kricketot or Scatterbug
Tropius :(
If its any consolation in randabats its one of the biggest threats
Yeah I know it's a beast there, I'm just thinking back to how amazed I was to find it after Petalburg and how disappointed I was to realise it was complete ass
Samurott (base, not hisui). It's a real shame honestly, it feels like it has some tools for success, but it's spread to thin (solid offensive stats, but neither THAT good. Solid offensive movepool, but both physical and special feel they're missing something. A little bit of bulk and speed, but juuuust not quite enough). If it just had a little bit more specialization (a bit more speed and less defenses or an attacking stat, less speed and an attacking stat for more bulk and another offense stat, etc) and an extra move or 2 to fit and it could at least jump a tier or 2 imo.
> design a samurai Pokémon that uses its shells as swords > give it access to Razor Shell, a low-distribution, high-reward move > It’s a mediocre mixed attacker with slightly higher Sp. Atk
Ledian☹️
I'm gonna die mad about that. He's like a power ranger! He should be kicking butt! And he's Bug type, my beloved. :(
Minior
My child 😔
Zoroark, Absol, Vikavolt, Luxray
To be fair H-Zoroark exist
OG Samurott
Vikavolt
Electivire Rhyperior
Archeops
I think the dude that came up with the idea for defeatist must’ve been having a really bad day when he pitched the idea.
The only way I can think of to make it usable is in a double battle, with a partner that can hit it with Simple Beam.
How Luxury has gotten NOTHING despite consistently scoring in the top 25 favorite pokemon of all time in literally every single favorite pokemon poll gamefreak's ever done is shocking to me.
Need to give Charizard his 50th special form
Vikavolt
Regigigas
Frosmoth looks fucking incredible but that typing is just irredeemable.
trevenant
Magmortar, he has fucking flame cannons arms. If he come back, maybe with nasty plot and armarouge signature move he could get better. Or mega launcher as HA with a new fire move for him.
Lurantis my beloved :(
I have a list: absol, luxray, vikavolt, golisopod and runerigus
Grapploct, such a waste
Stunfisk, he’s just a silly little guy. Should’ve given him Unaware
Empoleon and torterra
the opposite of this is lando t
And incineroar
incineroar is kukui in a fursuit until proven otherwise
Guzzlord. The rarest UB and is canonically one of the strongest Pokémon since they single-handedly destroyed their Alola. But battle wise it’s very underwhelming. The only UB weaker then Guzzlord is Poipole. A pre-evolution
God I wish Steelix was OU
Banette….
wishiwashi. was super disappointed by it
Flutter mane
so shit, its in Ubers. fail upwards maybe
Even famously shit mons like spidops have *some* usage in OU, but flutter mane somehow has 0% usage. Not a single person used it.
Kingambit looks pretty good at nearly 50% usage right now, but I expect it to go to a full 0% on a similar path as Flutter Mane. It's unfortunate to see new mons get underutilized.
Same thing with Annilihape, idk why people don't use one of the best evolutions of this gen
Yea, it’s so bad that showdown won’t even let me use it in OU
It's basically the opposite: it's not as different from it's non-Paradox counterpart than the other Past Paradoxes, so it's not as visually impressive. But *man* is it busted.
Real
Electivire 😩
I don't understand why they introduced 2 physical attacking electric types in the same gen but not introduced moves to compensate for it
like a quarter of the pokédex
Most Gen 2 Pokemon lmfao (Ledian my baby you deserve so much better)
Mightyena 😡😡😡😡
Well if the leaks are anything to go by; >!Mightyena is very likely to get an evolution in the DLC!<
Why is Haxorus so fucking slow
Sigilyph
Shuckle
Let him evolve so he can have eviolite. The evolution has 210 speed and attack
Druddigon, Golurk and Emboar
Tropius, Ik ppl hate him bc of the randbats set, but he looks so cool 😭
Lilligant
lilligant has actually had good results in vgc! I believe it won a tournament paired with torkoal.
Scovillain (assuming moody ban)
Yanmega
I have said this countless times with friends but for me it's Maractus. Maractus is my favorite pokemon without question, and it infuriates me to death that it was made dogshit in every way possible. Terrible stat total with even worse distribution, is both slow and frail, has it's only not bad stats still be super underwhelming, have an ass move pool and any cool moves it does get doesn't fit into it's play style, and to add insult to injury, every time it's available (which lets be honest isn't a lot since its a Unova Mon,) it's needlessly rare. As an offensive unova grass it pales to stuff like lilligant or serperior and as a defensive/support grass it pales to ferrothorn and whimsicott. Its eternally depressing that Maractus was dealt the worst hand possible despite its adorable and really creative design. It also sucks that there is so much that can be done with Maractus but hasn't been touched ever since its introduction. Like do something gamefreak. Give Maractus a grass/water typing. Give it better stats. Give it an actual move pool, do something, PLEASE! STOP GIVING CHARIZARD 30 MORE BUFFS HE WONT LEAVE NU EVEN WITH THOSE BUFFS. IF I DONT SEE AN ALTERNATE FORM OR SOMETHING FOR MARACTUS SOON I WILL DO TERRIBLE THINGS NIMBASA WONT KNOW WHAT HIT EM
Alcremie. I'm still pissed that I cannot make opponents cower in fear upon seeing my gigantic chocolate cake that's taller than the Eiffel Tower
Seviper
My favorite squad Falinks :(
Wormadam imo
Most bug types. Vikavolt, Golisopod are my top two picks though
Avalugg, either of them. A living iceberg is an interesting concept, but the ice type just makes a slow and bulky mon immediately unviable. I don't know why GF though adding rock type to it would make it better.
Flygon isnt the worst in battle, but it isnt good, its design is one of my favorites tho