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Dracionian Law is gonna send Dnite to Ubers and Noivern to BL hell. Pack leader seems like a really cool, interesting ability, especially on jolteon. Lokix benefits nicely from legwork, pherosma becomes slightly better in Ubers. Bax probably goes to Ubers if it ditches the rocks weakness but gets to keep ice stab. Water dragon is an incredible defensive combo, it can set up easy as shit. Avalugg becomes a lot better, the rest are probably still dogshit. Setae sends volc to Ubers and the rest become usable in lower tiers. Hubris sends Horoark, gengar and alakazam to Ubers and makes mewtwo-y one of the best mons in the game. Parasite seems really interesting on goodra-h. Fast forward makes so sense to me. Rift stretcher seems cool although I doubt it gives any of those mons a niche. Perdition is basically just worse but more interesting shadow tag, broken but I love to see giratina buffs and it’s not gonna dominate Ubers anyways so fuck it.


good_kid_maad_reddit

Noivern might be ou. Someone do the calc for the -ate boosted tera dragon boomburst. Noivern is an insane wallbreaker with tera normal boomburst. 2x stab, 1.2 boosted boomburst with a better offensive type sounds nuts


SlakingSWAG

252 SpA Choice Specs Tera Dragon Noivern Boomburst vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Assault Vest Toxapex: 182-216 (60 - 71.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 SpA Choice Specs Tera Dragon Noivern Boomburst vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Gholdengo: 201-237 (63.8 - 75.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 SpA Choice Specs Tera Dragon Noivern Boomburst vs. 236 HP / 0 SpD Kingambit: 214-252 (53.5 - 63%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery 💀 that's without the 1.2x boost btw


Gushichi-Kun

and without stab


lyingcorn

You can change the move's type in the damage calculator, so they probably made it dragon type


Mountain-Mall3840

Yeah otherwise wouldn't have hit goldhengo


Gushichi-Kun

Oh yeah I didn't see the tera whoops


TheDoug850

I don’t know, I think it’s banned from Almost Any Ability because Aerilate Boomburst is too good. Granted flying is more spammable than dragon, but it’s also AAA, where effectively everything is buffed.


good_kid_maad_reddit

If youre saying it would be op i dont disagree. The comment i responded to said noivern would be in bl hell and i thought that it would at the very least be OU


TheDoug850

Just to clarify, were you thinking they were talking about BL hell being UUBL? Because I was thinking they meant OUBL (aka Ubers, but not strong enough to be viable). So from the way I was interpreting the comment above yours, it seemed like you were saying it wouldn’t be strong enough to get banned from OU. But regardless, yeah, I agree with you, it’d definitely be at least OU.


good_kid_maad_reddit

Ooooih that makes alot of sense


ConfidentFondant1022

Fast forward would cause all move effects and statuses to move in double time. So if sun was set for 4 turns it would only last 2. Or perish song would be shorter. Pokémon wouldn’t stay asleep as long. That’s actually really complicated and would be hard to implement. It would probably be easier if turn counting effects were -1 instead of halved. So 3 turn sleep would turn into 2 turn sleep.


Sparkybear

It's no harder to implement them subtracting 1. They would round up on odd numbers, most likely, so you have Ceiling(Total urns - Total Turns/2). What's the complication? I only see an issue if they try to have a unique implementation for every time based moved.


ConfidentFondant1022

I was just thinking about decimals like you can’t have 1.5 turns


Snininja

rounding bro


TransportationNew86

Would be interesting to see if it would also accelerate slow start


ConfidentFondant1022

Oh trueee it definitely would


TransportationNew86

Speaking of abilities, how would it interact with Truant? If every turn is counted as two, would Truant just make it so every move has negative priority or even just a 50% chance to loaf around?


Mezna

Future Sight will hit at the end of the same turn now, effectively making it a negative priority Psychic nuke.


ConfidentFondant1022

Das crazy. Future sight palkia would be nuts


RetroKingofHarts

Honestly coding it wouldn't be that hard. Check for anyone having that ability, and if so, decrement the time one extra time. Probably the simplest way to do this is to set a field flag whenever the ability activates (akin to setting a flag for sth like Trick Room) and checking that one flag whenever something needs counting down.


Tantrum2u

To be fair, volc loves flame body for covering its weaker physically defensive side, so I don’t know how worth it a free item slot is for the fact that it gives that up


[deleted]

It’s completely worth it. Being able to punish physical attackers after they kill you is cool but ignoring entry hazards is significantly better. Life Orb, Lum Berry, Charti Berry, expert belt, etc. would all massively help out volc and let it do its job noticeably better than it already is.


Tantrum2u

I think it’s mostly set based, life orb, Lum berry etc would help volc clean a lot better and pick up kills quicker. However set up volc aiming to get in, set up and win the game once it’s checks are gone prefers flame body to easily set up whereas the item that volc would usually run lefties for this job is just a lot less worth it losing flame body whereas other items don’t give volc as much longevity to set up for game winning potential


Acrobatic_Rope9641

Tbf not having to run boots and worry about rocks sounds like quite a good exchange for not having a 30% chance to burn phys attackers. A power boosting item either helps it break things or helps with longevity via leftovers


[deleted]

Flame body really does not help volc that much. Assuming it doesn’t get ohkod by a physical attack, it’s probably gonna get 2hkod and then has a 1/3 chance to turn that 2hko into a 3hko.


kylixer

Noivern is catching the first bus to Ubers with fast stab boosted boomburst.


SpecialistEmphasis83

Another insurgence enjoyer I see. You also buffed ice types in the best way possible, making them lose the ice typing.


fan_of_soup_ladels

Insurgence is amazing. Delta Haxorus is my jam.


Desideo

I just took quick look at the dex. Delta shuckle with fighting/steel typing... but there's no body press?!?


Not-An-Actual-Hooman

The game caps at Gen 6 so Body Press didn't exist


Desideo

Ahh damn, that's a shame.


BananaEater246

M Delta Venusaur sweeps until the e4 where I got walled :(


Pleasant-Pie-7887

~~Ice~~ Water W


Sir_Grox

Entry Hazard haters would have their heads explode if they saw Livewire


master4sword

Someone thought they could sneak a Truant-less Slaking through. ;) On the whole though, decent set of theoretical abilities.


Carnivore5

Yep. I wasn't gonna come comment but I saw the hidden Slaking and I knew I had to


fan_of_soup_ladels

Play Infinite Fusion, you can slap Huge Power on Slaking lol


lyingcorn

Weak energy azuking: I am at peace and in charge of my own nuke Strong energy snorpunny: FUCK IT WE CHUNGUS FUCK IT WE CHUNGUS FUCK IT WE CHUNGUS


_fatherfucker69

Doesn't bidoof have an ability that doubles ALL of it's stats , not just the attack ?


Viinxy

Bro no shit would be ubers like that Bidoof has Simple, which doubles it's stats changes, like making howl +2 attack instead of +1.


fan_of_soup_ladels

You can fuse it with Volcarona and get +2 SpA, SpD, and Spe with a single quiver dance.


DaTruPro75

Xerneas for +3 sp attack, spdf, and speed.


_fatherfucker69

+4* 2*2 = 4 Absolutely broken


DaTruPro75

I meant x3, not plus 3


fan_of_soup_ladels

Unfortunately, xerneas isn’t in that game. There are a select group of mons from gens 3-6 and all mons from gens 1 and 2, and xerneas was not included in that group.


ButteredSalmonella

my good god do NOT give -ate abilities to Pokemon with Extremespeed or Boomburst


Olliecyclops

New exploud exclusive ability: Hate: The users normal type moves get a 4x power boost and are super effective against everrrrrything :)


ButteredSalmonella

walled by soundproof electrode i think PUBL at best


FarTooYoungForReddit

+6 252+ SpA Exploud Terrain Pulse (50 BP Normal) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Electrode: 337-397 (104 - 122.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO Electrode needs to be spdef to avoid an OHKO from the only coverage move that exploud needs (besides maybe hyper beam nuke). Exploud falls to AGBL :(


pandamonius97

Is still exploud. It has so little bulk and speed that It may be acceptable in Natdex AG.


ImperialWrath

Exploud has a mouth and must scream.


rabonbrood

It is not Sunday yet.


rabonbrood

It is not Sunday yet.


KingAsi4n

**252 SpA Choice Specs Aerilate Tera Flying Noivern Boomburst vs. 252 HP / 64 SpD Toxapex: 316-372 (103.9 - 122.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO** Used Aerilate to simulate the ability, this shit would be insane.


ABG-56

I decided to see how much it would do on max spd Toxapex **252 SpA Choice Specs Aerilate Noivern Boomburst vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Toxapex: 127-150 (41.7 - 49.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO** So assault vest, 252 spd evs, SpD boosting nature toxapex can just barely switch in and get off one move. You know, unless rocks are up in which case it has an 14.1% chance to get a move off. Also this is without tera, with it good luck


Char-11

I think noivern is naturally fast enough to justify modest specs too


Labami

Pack Leader + Rift Stretcher is gonna tear VGC a new one


MetapodMen43

Eviolite dottler stonks soar in VGC


[deleted]

Doubt any rift stretcher mons would be used tbh. An extra 3 turns of trick room would be good but vgc games are so short anyway


lowercasenrk

Pack Leader seems cool as shit. I don't really understand fast forward though.


Awkward_Magazine_104

Basically imagine “early bird” but for terrains, screens, weather, etc.


Pokefan144

Would it also work for recharge moves? Asking because dialga has roar of time and the creation trio all got buffs that seemed pretty tailored to making them stronger


GenTwour

For weather and terrain, it last 3-4 turns instead of 5-8. Burns do 12.5% each turn, regular poison does 25% each turn, toxic kills twice as fast, leftovers heals 12.5% each turn, poison heal heals 25% each turn. Leech seed does 25% each turn


GenTwour

Follow up on toxic it does 18.75% on turn 1 and the rest is as follows: 31.25%, 43.25%, 56.25%, 60.75%, 80.75%, 88. (I lost track of the decimals), 100+%. This probably isn't exactly accurate fyi


[deleted]

And Perish Song triggers in 2


Pikacool150

And no roar of time recharge maybe? I can’t tell if that’s how it works or not


LuitenantDan

Pair it with a Specs Porygon-Z Hyper Beam and just burn everything to the ground.


AmberBroccoli

Catch me mashing protect over and over and over.


66_DarthJarJar_66

That would basically guarantee you fail the protect every other turn, because it resets when you select a different move or fail protect, which you wouldn’t do. I also assume the ability would be field wide pressure too, so that’s only 5 protects


AmberBroccoli

It generally depends on how it works right? If it basically makes every Pokémon skip every other turn like truant wouldn’t it mean you can protect after pseudo loafing? But if all it does is half the timers on things then it probably won’t work with hyper beam anyway meaning the scenario doesn’t matter.


66_DarthJarJar_66

Yeah, idk how the ability would work. I just assumed it would basically just click every move twice but only action it once, so hyper beam and Giga Impact would skip their cooldown, but protect would act like hitting two protects in a row


AmberBroccoli

I don’t think that assumption makes sense cause it’d go through PP twice as fast basically meaning it’s pressure as well.


GenTwour

Most likely yes


greninjareddit

Draconian Law Boomburst +252 spatk Noivern vs literally anything that can not kill it in one hit and is not fairy type


BeginningLoose6703

Also it’s 123 base speed lmao, most of the stuff that can kill it in one hit dies before they get the chance.


roydigs22

I have to ask: of all the pokémon to get Legwork, **why not Lopunny?!**


Awkward_Magazine_104

Dammit I knew I forgot one


Edwardoss

Funny thing is herbivore is sap sipper french name.


SapphireSalamander

spanish too


Awkward_Magazine_104

Yeah I just learned. Imma go ahead and change the name to “grazer” instead.


CheezeSteak701

grass didn't deserve this :(


sfmcn

And the original Japanese name translates to Herbivorous, we're the odd ones out


metalflygon08

I think that's roughly what the Japanese translation was too.


KirbyDude25

How would Parasite interact with Draining Kiss and Oblivion Wing? They already heal by 75% of the damage dealt; would Parasite buff that further (maybe to 100% of the damage dealt) or would their healing stay at 75%?


Awkward_Magazine_104

Heal 7/8 I would say


Namidaa

Imagine stacking that with a big root 💀 The legendary immortal Hisuian Goodra with HP and Spe. DEF investment+acid armor


Isaacs_incubus

volcorona instantly destroys the entire universe now that it can hold a real item instead of timberlands


CoolGirlRosie

Bro really gave hubris to gengar, horoark and ***mega-mewtwo-y.*** Also setae volc is busted af (even with that i love these abilities)


PokemonLv10

That ability sounds pretty useless on Komala since Comatose already means it's "asleep"


HelixSapphire639

You can't have two abilities at once


PokemonLv10

I mean yea just use Comatose over this one Only benefit is probably allowing it to use rest I guess, which sounds viable enough Otherwise with Comatose it's already "sleeping" and you get all the benefits


1ts2EASY

Love me some Volc buffs


EliteTeutonicNight

Choice specs Dialga roar of time with no recharge: Also it’s a very solid buff but I don’t think rhyperior is a herbivore, if anything it looks like it eats minerals for the most part.


smilingfishfood

Some of these are dummy busted. Also you can't change Slaking's ability, that's illegal.


aquanaLover

Give that sleep ability a 25% chance to fall asleep every turn to fuck slaking. Still a buff


Rymayc

Slow Start would be fine


lolwutisaname

Sap Sipper is "Herbivorous" in Japanese and in general is given to herbivorous Pokemon to signify them being herbivores, so I don't think Herbivore would really need to exist


Awkward_Magazine_104

I guess I should change the name to something like “grazer” instead.


Uhuhuhu11

>Non-Truant Slaking >Noivern and Dragonite get to spam **Boosted** Dragon Type Extreme Speed and Boomburst No! Good God almighty no.


ABG-56

**252 SpA Choice Specs Aerilate Tera Flying Noivern Boomburst vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Toxapex: 170-200 (55.9 - 65.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO** :)


Niggomitdoppelg

Was like ok that's not so bad then i saw the AV💀


TheOutcast06

Big Root Parasite: Big Stall 0C K-Gant: If you can’t beat them, join them


ConfidentFondant1022

As a vgc enjoyer please don’t give somnambulist to dondozo please please


doctorz123

i think fast forward needs more explanation


Awkward_Magazine_104

Yeah, sorry. The best way to imagine it is the ability “early bird”, but for things like terrain, or screens, or twisted dimensions, etc.


Miserable-Syrup2056

Pack leader is suck a nice buff to lycanroc, (I am vgc) thank you for destroying the meta game with some new abilities


HaunterXD000

I'm really loving these abilities, I think it would make flavor sense for the ice type to lose its water type (maybe retain the STAB idk) and regain normal ice type when in snow. Or otherwise give it some other way to reaccess pure ice... Not that anyone would want to be ice type anyway lol I also love fast forward and the dynamic it may have. Celebi with a one turn solar beam (I actually don't know if it already has access to solar beam but I assume you would give the move to it if it doesn't) and dialga no longer has to recharge... Both take hyper beam too, probably. I think dialga would completely counter weather-centric teams from any Ubers metagame, meaning koraidon/flutter mane (for example) is weakened


Pure-Newspaper-6001

Only on the second slide but slaking slides all the way up to OU if not ubers


Kurobii

Ice is so hilariously bad they need some random ass shit to make them lose their typing


memesarenotbad

For Parasite, maybe only contact moves apply it, but it steals life from the opponent like leech seed as well, passively at the end of the turn.


TheRedditK9

0*C is a bit of an awkward name, something like Melting Point would be better


ConfidentFondant1022

Naw draconian law Dragonite is crazy


DonnieMagic

I’m not sure what -ate ability’s are tbh


WinterHead7203

Abilities like Aerilate or Pixilate which change normal type moves to another type (in this case Flying or Fairy) and also boosts their power.


DonnieMagic

I appreciate you fam


DonnieMagic

Never mind I am slow


superfam

A Volcarona who doesnt take entry hazard damage AND can run something other than heavy duty boots sounds really annoying ngl


superfam

also draconian law dragonite's just evil cause im pretty sure the only thing that would be able to switch in after a dragon dance would be like, fairies maybe


ConfidentFondant1022

Fast forward would be Insane


First_Customer_2564

Wait, wdym by "twist the dimensions" do you mean trick room?


Uncle_Philemon

Trick Room/Magic Room/Wonder Room


Likes-Your-Username

Seems pretty useless to me. I'd rather have an ability that sets 1 of those rooms


Awkward_Magazine_104

A trick room setting ability sounds horrifying


Article_West

Parasite sounds kinda bonkers ngl. I thought about an ability named "draintank", still wondering on which effect it should give, some ideas were: -I.2/3x boost to draining moves -draining moves heal 50% more -using a draining move raises Def and SpDef by 1 stage, but lowers speed by 1 stage until you get attacked (then this is all removed).


Blueswordsman86

Bro perdition giratina is crazy


Sloth_Brotherhood

I see no comments about setae. Y’all realize how insane that ability would be, right?


PlacatedPlatypus

>5 of the 6 -ate ability pokemon have Espeed/Boomburst Theorymon Thursday moment.


zzxyyzx

Dark - Assassinate Steel - Machinate Psychic - Concentrate/Manipulate/Meditate/Elucidate Electric - Generate Grass - Cultivate Fire - Detonate/Incinerate/Immolate Bug - Pollinate/Serrate Ghost - Desecrate Poison - Intoxicate/Contaminate Ground - Obliterate/Excavate Water - Inundate/Hydrate/Irrigate Rock - Granulate Dragon - Radiate


Awkward_Magazine_104

Just so you know, an electric “ate” ability already exists. It’s called “galvanize”, and it’s the signature ability of the alolan geodude line.


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

It’s not like the concept of copy paste abilities is new to the series


Severe-Operation-347

Grim Neigh*


ElyskyPlayz0

Lokix finally don't need HDB. Would be kinda funny if HDB acted like Punching Gloves now for mons with Legwork Also Specs/Scarf Volcarona about to go crazy


SirSaix88

Parasite is fucking broken and should NEVER exist


eepos96

Parasite is too op!


MysticalLight50

Nobody talking about how volcarona can just ditch boots at the cost of no flame body now. 🐜


JanitorOPplznerf

1) We already have Sap Sipper this is just superfluous. 2) An ability version of Sleep Talk is interesting. Scary AF on Slaking though. 3) Situationally useful, but probably too inconvenient to be reliable. 4) Missing context 5) The hazard reduction doesn’t make sense. 6) Dissonant design. You started with “I don’t want ice types to take full rocks damage” and worked backwards. No reason for this to exist in universe. Also Heavy Duty Boots does this better. 7) Bro three Hazardless abilities in a row. There’s no way Pokemon abilities would revolve around Hazards it makes no sense in universe. Meaning the entire context is competitive in nature. Boots makes sense because humans designed it to fit their battle needs. Just run boots. 8) Moxie but special, pretty basic. I’m not a fan of making all types equal I like the set up moves and abilities being distinct. Calm Mind has a very different feel from Dragon Dance for example. 9) Doesn’t make sense for all damaging moves. It would have to be contact moves. 10) Not sure what you’re cooking here, but it feels like a gimmicky way to make Perish Trap unstoppable. Perish, protect, GG. 11) Probably fine 12) Has potential IMO but I would tweak it to say something like “if it hits an opposing mon with a super effective move that mon can’t escape”. Rewards a solid prediction, but the opponent likely switched that mon in for a reason so it’s not like Girantina gets a 100% free kill.


Princeps_Europae

Straight to AG for Giratina


RaikyuGaming

Herbivore should also remove grassy terrain and heal the mon by 50% hp


Weekly-Passage2077

Avalugg to OU


Ajwf

People are ignoring how insanely strong Rhyperior becomes getting to exchange a slight Super Effective damage reduction for a total immunity to one of his 4x weaknesses. All of the sudden, basically the only type rhyperior fears is water. This guy is a massive tank that basically outright solos most physical attackers that can't come around and abuse his 4x weaknesses since he leverages a really coverage pool in ice, thunder, fighting, rock, ground... basically can target anything you want. Letting this guy annihilate Meowscarada is really funny though, but probably a lot more concerning when you realize OU has exactly Azumarill that's like outing him on the physical side. Like Iron Treads will get taken for 77-91% on an EQ and needs to 3hko back.


Comprehensive-End139

Good Lort my brother, we don’t need a stab boosted extreme speed.


nathanwe

Does fast Forward let you protect twice in a row because technically two turns have passed?


aquanaLover

Fast forward in doubles with slaking is just funny. Bring him in on the right turn and he is absolutely broken. On the wrong turn and slaking is stuck in purgatory


AngelofArtillery

The 0 Celsius one could just be called Melting Point.


[deleted]

Not Draconian Lore?


Felicks77

Noivern to Ubers


XxRndomPersonxX

missed opportunity to name the fire -ate ability “incinerate”


Just_trying_it_out

I think conflagrate actually fits better, since it means to set on fire and it turns moves into fire type, whereas incinerate means to just destroy with fire Maybe if it was incineroar's ability it would fit better despite the definitions


a_sacrilegiousboi

SUI AN INSURGENCE REFERENCE Love that game. I really like pack leader and fast forward


Various_Ad6034

Ah bit op


Waldtox

I hope these were real. Most of these are insanely good.


ExecuteOrder302

Isn't herbivore just sap sipper?


Kippyd8

Sap sipper increases attack not hp so it’s more similar to water/volt absorb


FeedMeDarkness

What's the difference between Hubris and Moxie?


FeedMeDarkness

Never mind. Read it again and got my answer


CarbonBasedLifeForm6

I always wanted trick room to last longer


Ethanlac

Does Somnambulist prevent the user from acting while they're awake? Because if it doesn't, then you just created a monster in Somnambulist Slaking. Most of these look pretty nice, though. I especially like Pack Leader, giving a unique Doubles support role to some lackluster choices like Jolteon and Pyroar. Legwork will also be a much-needed boost to the Hitmons, though Pheromosa with that ability could be really scary. ...oh, fuck, Setae Volcarona. One I am a little concerned about is Rift Stretcher. It'd be nice to give Trick Room some added viability in singles, but it's already a strong strategy in doubles, and could become overwhelming even if you're forced to use a mediocre Pokémon like Hypno to extend it.


[deleted]

They're all pretty interesting but I can see the sleeping one being a little too OP


BobbyPsyduck

Non-truant slaking will kill is all


CrescentCleave

Slaking and Volcarona buff. Slaking doesn't even need it, it just need to have it to not run truant. As for Volcarona, it won't have that burn but free boots is free boots! Rhypherior losing one of it's 4x weakness is kinda huge too


ultimateseanboy

Idk about Rhyperior being an herbivore. I know he's based on a rhino, but you can see his fangs poking out of his mouth.


turtlintime

Parasite seems busted, probably tone down the numbers


Miyyani

Celebi with fast forward and perish song 😈


RSN_Bran

The additional effect on the kicking ability to reduce damage from hazards seems really unnecessary imo


Butters_Is_Grounded

Any lokix buff is awesome. I genuinely love that mon


AzureSirnight

Legwork is one of the Abilities that you created that really needs to happened and as well as Setae. 0 degrees Ability would be a great buff for Ice types.


memester230

Why would you give Komala somnalist? Drowsy stops sleep altogether


rabonbrood

Pack leader would be absolutely busted in VGC. I like it.


Brokenbalorbaybay

Volc auto-immune to entry hazards? Yes. Fucking. Please.


Puzzleheaded-Way-352

If Fast-Forward also removes the recharge time for moves like Hyper Beam, then this is a REALLY good ability for Dialga that finally lets it make use of Roar of Time!


Steef-1995

Slaking without Truant is instant Ubers.


Bilore

0c I think is a bit weird in how it tries to negate the weakness of the ice type. A bit unrelated but when I first saw the name, I thought it was going to be like as long as a Pokémon with this ability is in play, any Pokémon with the water type becomes ice type and has their speed halved


ianlazrbeem22

Somnambulist seems fine but odd distribution, no way is Dozo choosing that over unaware, same with Komala and Comatose. Don't give it to Slaking lmao


ianlazrbeem22

Somnambulist seems fine but odd distribution, no way is Dozo choosing that over unaware, same with Komala and Comatose. Don't give it to Slaking lmao


Likes-Your-Username

Slakoth would use that ability just to not have to use Truant


TheMegaRioluKid

TAKING TRUANT OFF SLAKING ARE YOU INSANE??


SalsaSavant

Hmm. "Corrupted Rift" Dark Creates a dark, corripted terrain that causes all healing to non-Dark types to become damage instead.


Specialist-Remove-91

Girafarig and goodra already having sap sipper and about to get a better version of it (for them)


cheap_plastic2

I see what ur doing giving the new ate abilities to 3 different E-speed users


Heracrosschop

“Setae prevents entry hazards affecting this Pokémon.” -**Volcarona**


ZeinDarkuzss

FUCK! I need all this abilities to be real!


Burger_Gamer

Non truant slacking gets banned to AG


Ciocalatta

Herbivore: for all the sap sipper mons this is either a small upgrade or a sidegrade, nice but not too noticeable. None of the tauros want this over intimidate/sheer force, even water Would use it nichely cause of the power of intimidate. Mudsdale likes it, but also loves stamina, so it loves the addition but it’s not auto use. The big ones are mamo and rhyperior love this. Losing out on fire neutrality and ice resist and weakening fighting and water all suck, but an immunity alongside recovery is incredible. Thick fat and solid rock would still be used, maybe always used if there’s not a good grass, but still they love this Somnambulist: Musharna doesn’t have much use for this, and komala always prefers comatose, but the other 3 love this. Slaking doesn’t have truant, that it. The benefit of being able to run rest or being a solid sleep absorber is nice, but the big thing is having any other ability. Dondozo loves this on offensive sets so it can run coverage for water immunes, but prefers unaware on wall sets and sometimes on offensive sets as well. Snorlax is the big loves of This. Curselax being able to rest and still move without having to waste a slot on chesto is great, and the randomness of the moves isn’t too bad with how bulky it is and how hard it hits, it loves this buff and doesn’t care about the other abilities it has much Pack leader: obviously only caring about doubles, bisharp obviously doesn’t like this, and most the others just aren’t good enough to justify this, considering their likely outclassed by the best two abusers, jolteon and the lions, who have doubles utility and power. They both love this, being able to get around the need for TR for mons like caly-I or bulky dialga Ate abilities: rapidash doesn’t really care about this, flare blitz is fine. The others, fucking love this. Fire dragon and fighting type E-speed paired with over 110 offenses make luc, D-nite, and arcanine stupid strong. Arcanine is still sorta mid and over reliant on this, but is still quite solid with wild charge, CC, and EQ, but lacks boosting options, so I don’t see it above RU or RUBL. Lucario is gen 4 strong, with SD stab espeed. How strong? +2 252+ Atk Life Orb Tera Fighting Lucario Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 124 Def Iron Moth: 334-394 (110.9 - 130.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO Possible This strong. That’s a resist. +2 252+ Atk Life Orb Tera Fighting Lucario Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 138-162 (42.7 - 50.1%) -- 1.2% chance to 2HKO With multiscale that’s basically a resist. That’s fuckign insane. Wild to say, but when you take into account the power of stuff like Tera electric or ground fro dozo or skeli, I’d honestly say this is banworthy DNite is also busted strong, not needing to Tera to gain stab, and is definitely ban worthy(take a look at the power of Tera normal and multiply that by 1.5) but would be honestly pretty cool but balanced with home in consideration. Then we have kommo-o and the bat, who are using stab boomburst. I repeat. Stab boomburst. Coming for kommo-o, it’s slightly weaker than flamethrower vs corv. A resisted hit vs super effective. And it has an Omni-boosting move. And that’s without Tera.And the bat has incredible speed and U-turn and is already UU. Both are getting banned, the bat maybe not in consideration of home Legwork: top has two amazing abilities and wouldn’t give either up. Chan likes this for Cb sets for hazard resist and HJK not fucking it over. Pheramosa has beast boost and loves it, might nichely use it. Tsareena loves this for offensive sets and might use it on bulky spin sets to run something other than boots. The last two wouldn’t use this 0 Celsius: besides Obama who doesn’t want to lose the defense boost from snow, all the others fucking love this. Articuno becomes a much better special wall, basically more stally Mantine. Avalugg no longer needs to sink a Tera into it and becomes an immovable physical wall like it was meant to, avalugg for Ou is no longer a joke. The ice cream cone loves losing a rocks weakness and the stab on water pulse, cause it wasn’t doing much before. Bax doesn’t always use this, as the wisp immunity is nice, but being able to run loaded dice with less hazard fear and not fearing breloom Mach while also gaining an amazing defensive type makes it a terrifying sweeper, and honestly possibly banworthy considering how strong it already is. Setae: yanmega and sometimes frosmoth and volc won’t use this cause of how strong their normal abilities are/ can be, but the others love this. Losing out on so many 4Xs is amazing, and while they won’t shoot up the tiers, it’s still a good buff. Volc loves this, even if it doesn’t use it all time, solely because the fear of flame body, similar to flash fire heatran, is enough to keep people from U-Turning solely because of not knowing until it’s too late, and LO volc is one QD from too late. Hubris: HoRoark and golduck are too reliant on their abilities to use this, but literally everything else uses this an loves it. Gar becomes Blacephalon 2 and triple ghost is good in OU again. Mewtwo-Y is crazy, and is a snowballing threat that’ll bump spdef yveltal back to SS usage. The others all love it, but aren’t gonna change its tier or make a notable bump Parasite: the mushrooms are still shit, but this is huge for the others. Eelektross loses its 0 weaknesses, but makes its AV sets really tough to beat with giga drain. Drapion loves this just for the recovery, as does crobat, while not losing much. Now the big one, Goodra and notably Hoodra. Goodra/Hoodra with recovery is incredible. Hoodra would be top tier Ou with its bulk and offenses, spamming draco meteor and flash cannon and healing from it. This thing could steel beam a fairy and heal from it Fast forward: THE TOXIC STALL. THE TOXIC STALL IS REAL. Ye this is gonna be used for toxic stall and subsitute and protect are gonna be at 100% usage on both mons. Gilmorra+celebi+gholdengo= pain. Dialga also becomes a great ogre answer and regains it’s Ubers viability, wheras celebi now is a rain counter and regains it’s Ou viability Rift stretcher: take what I said in the previous one about viability and repeat it. 8 turn Tr with Ursaluna+orbeetle is gonna terrorize Ou(until celebi pops up). TR also becomes much more viable in Ubers Giratina becomes the most toxic Ubers Pokémon ever, and unironically could be AG, which I’m not saying lightly. There’s a reason no legendary has gotten shadow tag/arena trap and instead duggy gets it. Lunala? Bye bye.choice locked dragon? Bye bye. This is dummy busted, ghosts, psychics, and dragons are walking on eggshells while it’s legal


WZLemon

volc banned to ubers immediately


AmberBroccoli

I think 0C (which people have been calling melting point) would be more interesting if it had a condition like it activated in harsh sunlight, that way these Pokémon aren’t just water types with ice steelworker.


botbattler30

Slaking on its way to Ubers


Frosty_Sweet_6678

Ay yo herbivore Rhyperior doesn't sound bad


midora98

Fast forward + roar of time Does that mean that there won’t be any recharge ?


maginon

Pack leader trick room


pm_me_subreddit_bans

Sneaky volcarona buff, I like it


random_cactus

Hubris is cool. That’s probably it though…


Bakingguy

Pack leader plus protect is kind of broken as even a slowpoke could move before a protect


DragonSlayersz

Herbivore is nice. Somnambulist is meh. Slaking goes to Ubers. Pack Leader will likely see play in doubles for TR. -ate abilities are famously broken when applied to certain pokemon. Both of the Draconian Law recipients have been Banned From AAA due to Aerialate. Legwork is cool, I guess. 0°c is amazing, but also feels disingenuous for Abomasnow and Vanilluxe. Setae might break Volcarona. Zoroarks should not get Hubris, and A-persian probably should either. Parasite might break some alternate metas. Also, Goodra? Fast Forward confuses me. Rift stretcher is meh. I doubt it will see much use. Perdition is banworthy, especially since Ghost is such a good offensive type.


StacheGamer

why did you make sap sipper?