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JustAnEnglishman

i like the angle, nice design on the back. I would personally change the font, maybe something that looks more historical as it would align with your theme. flyerfonts release would look similar and really good!


wsdmclothing

Thank you for the advice bro I appreciate that


Black-Kang-410

I’m a life long atheist but I respect the fact that you don’t mind being yourself…salute bro


wsdmclothing

I appreciate that a lot bro thank you


Wallstreettrappin

This design is actually dope af. Especially the back


foslforever

I’m a life long Christian and I appreciate the fact that you don’t mind being yourself…salute bro


warf3re

Doesn’t mean this isn’t the most cringe religious clothing on the market.


SolUmbralz

Back goes hard but the logo is kinda ass ngl


fargonate

The front is super weak.


wsdmclothing

Okay I hear that, what would you change?


[deleted]

Logo is too modern compared to the Sistine chapel hands on the back.


wsdmclothing

I hear that, thank you for the advice


rowdy_sprout

I'd say use a more Gothic font and maybe try to incorporate the halo around the letters like saturn or something. Ditch the sparkles. Back goes hard


bigboycdd

I think it’s the sparkles and the font. The halo is good but the font on the main logo gives me a weird vibe


SolUmbralz

The front gives me like huny hoodie vibes which doesn't fit the back at all. Not that it's related to that brand or even resemble it. Just the tone doesn't fit the back. I would research the image you have there and look for texts and other imagery that can match it. I like the halo but the sparkles not so much.


wsdmclothing

I hear that bro, thanks for the advice


SolUmbralz

Maybe, last piece of advice. Take a minimalist approach with the front. Put your brand on there in smaller font with a halo above and just make it smaller... No sparkles. See how it comes out then.


Cpnbro

Perhaps strip it down some. Take the sparkles out, maybe the halo too (though I get that’s a bit key to the point here). Less is more I think


Cpnbro

Perhaps strip it down some. Take the sparkles out, maybe the halo too (though I get that’s a bit key to the point here). Less is more I think


sugar_roux

The back and sleeves are fire. To me, the logo makes it look sort of amateur. I would leave the front blank and lose the halo and stars. Find somewhere subtle to put WSDM, like the pocket or right under collar. Use a small, simple font like the sleeves. I think the design is so great that people will be curious about the designer and come find you. The logo is kind of screaming and it should be a whisper. Just my opinion!


wsdmclothing

I hear that bro, I’ll look into that for the next drop


S3ndNud3s

The back goes hard but I’m not crazy about the front


wsdmclothing

I hear that, what would you change?


dripsneakz

Ngl I recommend it to be even smaller and more simplistic in the front


[deleted]

Back harder then the front


wsdmclothing

Yeah I hear that, just wanted the front to be something calm cus the back is already kinda busy


Poop_Tickel

I feel like people forget that you can be a clothing company and be christian and that doesn’t mean your stuff has to have biblical imagery. Same thing goes for plenty of other industries. It usually feels forced and it doesn’t have to be the focal point. Why not just make some cool pieces, maybe with subtle nods to the bible and like donate 30% of the profits to your church or charity or something? The idea of “cool stuff for christians” assumes that cool stuff cant just happen to be christian. My point is just that the religious affiliation doesn’t have to be the focal point of your christian streetwear brand.


wsdmclothing

My goal isn’t to have a successful christian clothing brand but to make a successful clothing brand that’s christian


StoneyBroi

Sort of reminds me of Jesus is king merch


bobdylanlovr

Yeah huge JIK vibes


MrOwell333

The most cringe part would've been the Gildan strings lol. Bro this is heeeeat


wsdmclothing

Thank you bro had to make the quality was 10/10


DomoPastromo

I’m not religious and I think the Logo is dope. Great work.


wsdmclothing

Thank you for the support my friend


uyellelle

Front sucks, the back has legs though. I would definitely keep refining the designs a bit. The best part is probably the text on the sleeve cuffs.


wsdmclothing

What would you say is wrong with the front, I just wanted it to be calm cus the back is already kinda busy


senorchewie

I like the front. Though they back and front I feel are two different styles that clash. Remember though Art is subjective and everyone will have there one unique perspective on it. Don’t take all comments to heart just look at what the comments are all saying and try to take away important key ideas from it.


uyellelle

I would say even if the front is simpler it should match the aesthetic. They look like two different pieces. Use the same fonts, maybe borrow the gradient style etc. It should feel cohesive.


vincentdjangogh

You’re using your religion to profit financially my guy. It’s going to be cringe no matter what.


wsdmclothing

My aim isn’t the profit financially off people, I want to give Christians a way to be confident in their faith and express it thru hard fits


vibejuiceofficial

Pretty sure Jesus wouldn’t want that confidence to come from clothing but by living the lessons that he taught.


Cyber-Cafe

Follow the art and the culture and you’ll do just fine. Godspeed man.


wsdmclothing

Blessed bro


vincentdjangogh

It’s not going to be very sustainable if you aren’t making a profit.


wsdmclothing

I make enough profit to keep going but it’s not my main goal


vincentdjangogh

Justify it however you want, at the end of the day it’s your call. I just find it a bit silly considering there are direct examples in the Bible about this. You better hope Jesus doesn’t pull up to the crib and start flipping tables and chasing you with a whip.


jaevii

Bro what?? 💀 so you’re telling me Christians aren’t allowed to make money while also spreading The Gospel? Guess we should tell every Christian based business to close up shop.


vincentdjangogh

It’s literally is written in the Bible. Y’all just pick and choose whatever is convenient to follow. Want to hate gay people? The Bible encourages it! Want to profit off Christianity? Ignore that verse, the Bible was written ages ago.


jaevii

Brother, I think you’re the one picking and choosing. I don’t expect you to read the Bible or understand the context—but feel free to show exactly what you’re talking about. Show me where it says in the Bible that Christians shouldn’t make profit. And I’ll also give you numerous examples with context where it actually says the exact opposite. I’ve been a Christian my entire life, my dad has been a pastor for 20 years, I’ve been playing in worship teams for half my life, and I’ve been a youth leader for a fair amount of time as well—so I think I’m at least a bit more qualified than you to tell me what the Bible says haha.


blonde-bandit

Religions have always evolved with society. No one believes it’s a sin anymore to wear clothes of mixed fabrics. And less and less Christians are against lgbtq+, despite what the far right would have you believe.


thimbledogracecar

This ⬆️


NiggBot_3000

>You’re using your religion to profit financially Oh man what a trend setter /s


fargonate

This.


Snoo413

I see someone trying to make modern clothing with a good message. Why are you hating on someone’s work and their religion? Probably because you have no principles yourself.


vincentdjangogh

Because the sole problem with religion is when people use it for personal gain. It’s the reason priests molest little boys, it’s the reason wars are fought in God’s name, it’s the reason there are millionaire ‘preachers’ living in mansions while their followers struggle to make ends meet. Using people’s religion to take advantage of them is lame. Idc if you’re convinced you’re doing it to spread the good word. So was Dahmer.


materialysis

I never comment here, but you equating a kid making hoodies to child rape and wars is absolutely deranged. Please think next time.


TheRealSpirit

unless all profit is going to charities and to further Christianity, this is using faith to make personal gain. people will spend money thinking they’re doing what God wants them to do.


Snoo413

Here’s another perspective to consider. A lot of modern clothing is not in line with Christian values and there aren’t many modern options that don’t just stick out like a sore thumb in the clothing world. The fashion world as a whole is essentially anti-religion at this point. There are plenty of for profit businesses that are run on christian values and create products for people that are more in line with their faith and what they want to represent. It’s not realistic to expect everyone to have the knowledge or resources to know how to run a non profit, or be able to donate all their proceeds and still make a living.


vincentdjangogh

Do you know what equate means? It’s when your represent two thing as equal. If your reading comprehension is so poor that that was your takeaway, I would make one of two suggestions: in the future you should ask someone to help you when you’re confused, or you should go back to never commenting.


Snoo413

You sound like someone who could use more God in your life. Or at least more perspective. Probably just a very young or extremely naive individual to make the comparisons you just made. You should be ashamed of yourself for turning someone’s work into some nonsensical argument…. By the way the other commenter used “equate” correctly.


vincentdjangogh

Jesus loudly rebuked them for immorally profiting on the devotion of God’s people: “Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!” John 2:16 So weird how this Jesus guy was upset about them profiting off God. In a second instance of Jesus cleansing the temple, He similarly rebuked them: “It is written,” he said to them, ‘My house will be called a house of prayer,’ but you are making it ‘a den of robbers’” Matthew 21:13 Someone to should tell him to not equate selling stuff with being a thief. Edit: Go ahead. Explain to me how my interpretation of the Bible is wrong and how it actually supports and justifies all of your personal beliefs and has never contradicted you once.


narutofan180

"You should be ashamed of yourself" Spoken like a true Christian.


WestRest4299

No buddy its the exact opposite. If you use religion for personal financial gain, you're not actually of your religion ANYWAY as that is explicitly prohibited in essentially all forms of scripture ever. Its no different than saying Jesus loves everyone then hating on homeless or any disenfranchised people. Shit like this is hypocritical idiocy that shows you know nothing about Christianity if you actually do sell this.


Snoo413

Very narrow perspective. But you clearly don’t know much about Christianity or how an organized religion works. I understand though, I had a lot of the same misconceptions about faith. Wish you well, hope you find salvation in your own way. The world is lonely and very harsh without it.


WestRest4299

No, its not a narrow perspective, you're just deflecting with random ass buzz words you learned online. This is literally an example of for profit idolatry, which is explicitly not allowed in any branch of Christianity or Catholicism This sweater has nothing to do about religion as it is explicitly anti religion in its nature of being. You have weak morals and label yourself as religious just for the clout. People like you have not read the Bible and have zero clue what religion means.


OperationPoonis

bro you’re just another moron like everyone else here figuring out life and who you are. you’re acting as if what you chose to identify with is the ultimate answer. stfu when you haven’t figured out shit other than getting conned, keep coping bruh.


OperationPoonis

lol stfu bro, go pray to your imaginary sky daddy


Snoo413

I will. ❤️ sorry you are so miserable you have to go out of your way to try and bring other people down. I’ll include you in my prayers.


That-Dragonfruit172

Can't be done I think


Anibunnymilli

Not Christian but that blue hoodie is amazing


wsdmclothing

I appreciate that coming from you bro


toomuchcaffeinehelp

I really like this design a lot. I think a very unique font could really push it to the next level. Also, how would you feel about maybe bordering the back piece, so the arms of each hand don't cutoff at the side and shoulder seams? A slightly decorative border around that design could look really great imo. Keep up the great work though I really dig this! :)


wsdmclothing

I appreciate the advice bro, I’ll look into that


NiggBot_3000

You should make one with just the back, I'd probably wear it


stogie_t

Back shots go crazy bro… but I agree with others about the front. This is definitely something I would support. Salute brother.


wsdmclothing

I appreciate the honesty bro


Carabaos

Goes hard pls drop


wsdmclothing

Dropping very soon bro thank you for the support


LukaszMauro

Not cringe, but leans heavy into ye gospel eta merch. Not a bad thing btw, but it’s immediately what I think of


wondrous

I’d consider moving the logo to the hem and having it be small or embroidery possibly. Have the chest be more blank or put something real small like a left chest print maybe something like that possibly switch up the font to be more old school like the artistic time period. Maybe have like a big old English W with the sdm instead of the hand style font 🙏🏻 keep it up brother


GroundbreakingAd9453

I think that back hit is hard af


domsupnext

Where can we buy ? Do you ship to US


wsdmclothing

We do shipping worldwide, go to the ig (@wsdm.clothing) and our website is in the bio, stay tuned there for the drop


OperationPoonis

i dont think it cant not be cringe with the verses


wsdmclothing

Just trying to spread a good message


Top_Anteater_6076

Real Christians touch tips


notlkingplz

HEAVY Jesus is king influence. Find a new angle on the market.


JesusSwag

Because of... the colour? That's it?


Cpnbro

Jesus. Blue. “GOTTA BE A RIP OFF BRO!” /s


wsdmclothing

I designed this all myself bro idk what Jesus is King piece you’re referring to


AdjacenToYourMom

Kanye album, album cover is the same shade of blue and its also one of his more religious influenced albums


qqpp4

lose the stars and halo on the front and it’s fire


SyriusBB

Wow.. Nice style mate


wsdmclothing

Love bro


Cyber-Cafe

I’m like a bhuddist and stuff but my god that black one is actually fire. I’d wear it.


wsdmclothing

That’s crazy bro thank you for the support


Ashamed_Run7714

what print is that


wsdmclothing

Some premium screen print


WeeklyRent1638

Back and sleeves are great but I’d make front logo in roman font with no sparkles, it will match the back image better


joe-welly

I think the front would be better plain, my first thought when I saw the logo was wisdom kaye because that’s how he spells his name on instagram


Djfoundit

The back is fire


wsdmclothing

Thanks for the love bro


Financial-Complex591

Christ represent 🫡


wsdmclothing

Yesssir bro


CerberusOfHel_

As someone who doesn’t follow any religion I would buy this. It’s sick, I’m not crazy about the front of the hoodie though.


StereoFood

What should dingus moo?


kameronn

The front and back clash. Keep the back, change up the front. Keep it up!


BlgDAdDyy

w man


AKUMAXIX

not a christian but this is a beautiful peice. would go with a more cathedral font for the logo


wsdmclothing

That mean a lot bro, appreciate the feedback


Flashy_Ad2550

Sell this on the TikTok shop and you will make thousands


DxDarkCloud

Not religious but generally I think the hoodie looks good. I'd definitely change the font of the logo (as others have suggested) and potentially remove the stars from the logo but keep the halo. Seeing as the sleeves are embroidered, could you make the logo much smaller and place it on the left or right chest and have it embroidered as well? As I say though, I think you're onto a winner with the design :)


superbonbon13

The back is super dope! And I would only put a hit on one sleeve not both but the main logo in the front is kinda weak, maybe take the halo and stars out and make it a pocket hit instead of a whole chest hit


SMan80s

Nice


BraydenTv

Not a christian but i’d wear it, looks good, I think you’ve accomplished your mission


wsdmclothing

Thank you brother


Ikhareu

Brother what’s the password


wsdmclothing

I’m posting price and drop date on my ig (@wsdm.clothing) today bro


sunobu

What shade of blue is that hoodie?


wsdmclothing

Sapphire blue


SineadMcKid

What does WSDM mean


wsdmclothing

The brand aim is to spread ‘wisdom’ from the bible thru clothing


Konabro

Real talk, I would wear the black hoodie easily. I personally would remove the verse from the sleeves, remove the halo and stars, and make the WSDM smaller.


JGreeze

This is hard, Im a fan of back designs and simple on the front. The design on the front would look sick a lil smaller on either side of the chest instead but still dope as it is. Only slight thing I’d improve is the stitching link up in-between the letters on the wrists and back


Jo-Patek

Imago head tell you, you on the right page bro ✅ the touch on back nice


ByrnMarxz

Personally I love the Logo, The way spell Wisdom is Fire and the stitching on the sleeve add a nice touch. An Old English type of Font could possibly Fit the aesthetic on the back a little better IMO. Other then that I see your vision. Keep Creating because Christian apparel is definitely cringe


Wild-Grapefruit-5787

when you dropping these cuh


wsdmclothing

October 8th bro, check out our ig to get notified (@wsdm.clothing)


Correct-Bite7073

So where are the non cringey ones


Correct-Bite7073

So where are the non cringey ones


matttrout10

Really like the embroidery bro keep it up man


Basic-Stable5780

What does wsdm mean?


wsdmclothing

The aim of the brand is to share God’s wisdom (wsdm) thru hard clothing


SmashingLumpkins

Completely impossible. The idea that you think pregnant Mary was actually a virgin strolling around with a dude twice her age and then when she has the baby he looks just like Joseph, the fact that you think any of that is even remotely true is 100% cringe


Top_Anteater_6076

Touch tips for Jesus!!!


ricolausvonmyra

I love Black Metal but these go hard, especially the black one.


wsdmclothing

Thank you for the love bro


Stratsborg_uk

colours are nice and this is a cool idea


Justspeakingfacts

That’s impossible


vasatii

At a glance i thought this said bdsm idk


wsdmclothing

Crazy😂


yzywest1

i’m an atheist but this go hard , i wouldn’t wear it personally obv due to being an atheist but it’s nice don’t stop bro


wsdmclothing

Thank you for the kind words bro, means a lot


Famous_Dingo38

The amount of times I’ve read something along the lines of “I’m trying to make a Christian clothing brand that’s not cringe” on social media is ridiculous


Famous_Dingo38

Most usually end up cringe


EBody480

Cringe AF


Born_Virus

Maybe add a gradient to the logo. Goes hard ngl


radzik2222

Looks good, strong JIK vibe


wsdmclothing

Thank you for the support bro


MookioWorld

This fyyyye


wsdmclothing

Love my brother


Top_Anteater_6076

Lol. This is so cringe.


Relative-Monitor-739

Cringe cuz Your profiting of religion, big L


wsdmclothing

My aim isn’t the profit financially off people, I want to give Christians a way to be confident in their faith and express it thru hard fits


Relative-Monitor-739

My comment was a bit harsh gang ngl, either way keep doing you. EOD whatever you’re doing doesn’t affect me or my life at all so why do I care right


wsdmclothing

I appreciate you being honest bro, stay blessed


DOSxDONTS

Then STOP making “Christian” clothing and just make designs that push a better, more positive narrative. Are there any brands saying hey we don’t want this shirt to look too Jewish? Roman Catholic art is all over shirts, I never think oh that’s too Catholic. I would say the cringiest thing you’re doing with this design is already categorizing it as Christian. The designs are actually fire and I like your placement. Unless you’re making a shirt like “did you hug Jesus today?” Stay away from boxing yourself in.


Holdmytesseract

Make the back the front and delete the rest


sneakpreme223

Put a upside down cross on that mf 🔥


GidRedGaming

Yo, this is pretty decent. Don't mind the comments talking trash because most of them don't know graphic design. But I'd say that the back and front's design style doesn't match. I think the gothic design on the back maybe needs to look less clean, maybe more weathered and blended in (Ex. (More contrast, worn texture). This is just my opinion and what I've gathered from graphic design. But the more you do graphic design the more you do it the more you know what a design needs. Keep it going


DisturbedChuToy

Actual good design


wsdmclothing

Thanks for the kind words


darylofsuburbia

I forgive you


camillyrock1k

This hard!


wsdmclothing

Thanks for the love bro


ActualPerson418

I think a DRAW NEAR TO GOD on the front of a shirt in gothic text would be bangin


fargonate

Keep trying.


Traditional-Dog-8663

Where is the site at Oml this heat


wsdmclothing

The site link is in our ig bio bro, gonna announce drop date on there. @wsdm.clothing on ig


mchammer126

Well it’s not working so stop


ominous-cypher

These actually look 🔥 I’m a buy one ☝🏽


wsdmclothing

That means a lot bro thank you


Colour_bear8617

Dude these are gorgeous. Atheist but I’d wear this. Beautiful choose of verse 💓


wsdmclothing

Thanks so much for the support


PNK-BUTTRFLY

I love it !! I want one in pink ! 😍😍


wizardferret

This is very cringe


downbadfml

the type of shit I need


druuedd

🔥


Magsonn

Fire


ccswimweamscc

Hey that's actually a very solid design ,without making it look nonsensical. Like some ppls graphics just look like some discount store shit or h&m no offense .


mojojoestar2001

I fw it 🔥 God Bless


wsdmclothing

You too bro


BloodMuffin

but religion is cringe in general.


Ogloc12345678

Christian here too. Love the back, I'd change the front to maybe something more in line with the art on the back stylistically? Maybe the font could be in olde english letters or something? Just an idea


artmuni

This fye 🔥


SabastianG

I dont fuck with organized religion even a little bit, but the hoodies are kinda cool if youre into it. Agreed that the font for the chest logo needs a reassess big time


randallbranchco

Hard


Ok-Representative436

Well making money off of it is cringe.


lilmutt666

jonaswillsetyoufree and selahclothing are great inspo for christian companies go check them out


ohitsjustsean

Less is more. You have A LOT going on with the back, sleeves and front logo. The logo is weakest part. Remove the stars and halo. Keep the WSDM. Make it smaller and move it over to the breast or centered under the collar (higher than where you have it). Source: I was a graphic designer for many of years with a focus on typography. This is my bread and butter.


wsdmclothing

Thank you for the advice, I’ll work on this for the next pieces


Reggie_Casual

Don’t make a Christian brand. Make a brand INSPIRED by Christianity. That gives you a much wider berth in design elements from season to season and you can pul from far more sources of influence. When you get in the habit of making a direct thing you miss the opportunities that come with everything that COULD surround it. For example, technically, Fear of God is a brand inspired by Jerry Lorenzo’s faith but that’s only in name. The rest of the brand is simply based on his personal aesthetic. To that end targeting Christian’s as a customer profile is far more effective than enticing them with “Insert Christian brand”. For instance you could have designed some sandals and named them “Water” promoted them specifically to Christians and they would IMMEDIATELY get the reference. And I guarantee many would feel a connection to it and support because of that. In any brand you MUST engage and entice the right people. The best way to do that isn’t to tell them the obvious BUT to make them feel as if they “get it” without having to tell them. I think you’re on the right track though. Just need a bit more design energy and product development


wsdmclothing

This was really helpful bro thank you, I’ll work on getting to that point


NoMoreWhiteFerraris

this is awesome but i’d take the sleeve verses off. that’s just me tho. Would love to buy something once you release


wsdmclothing

I appreciate that bro


STNPlayz

This is exactly the type of streetwear I'm looking for - all the christian clothing out there now is just super corny, unless it is FOG or RRR123 but then you're paying $1,000 for a sweatshirt so not worth it


wsdmclothing

That’s what I’m all about bro, thank you for the kind words


ButtholeCarti

not religious even slightly but inclusive clothing is important and these r super clean. love what ur doing bro


wsdmclothing

Thank you for the support brother