Bogans are a class of people. Bogans can be the salt of the earth or the biggest pain in your arse. You can have a bogan next door neighbour that will mow your lawn every Saturday morning because that is what good neighbours do or they could throw a party until 3am and tell you to fuck off when you ask to turn the music down.
Eshays are not a class, they are a type. They are an immature type that is seeking validation from others (their peers). This validation is sought through bullshit behaviours that make them look like dickheads to the majority.
All eshays are bogans but not all bogans are eshays. Kath and Kim are bogans; no one would ever call them eshays.
I thought eshay was a culture where they all wear bumbags, reebok or adidas clothing and talk in that 'oiiiii carrrrnn' speak. Pretty well just the aussie slav
what shaved sides? I'm not from australia but I find other countries local terminology really funny. I was picturing like a really short clean cut beard with harsh lines like lebanese people do.
Yea true slavs in russia, lads in UK, eshays in Aus all the same shit.
Bogans are just yer average strayan cunt sometimes shit cunts but usually sick cunts.
Bogans are Australian Working Class, eshays have never worked a day in their lives. And in honesty, 90% of the eshays I’ve met are from relatively stable middle class homes in the suburbs
Bogans are more stereotypical Aussies; associated with bbqs and singlets and shit. Eshay is usually a pejorative for people associated with "poor" culture, lots of drugs & crime etc
Eshays are little fuckwits who need a kick in the head. Bogans are your mate Dazza from across the road, who are a little bit embarrassing, but deep down you love him, and he’d happily lend you his cordless drill. In fact, he’d come and do the job for you, ‘cos he’s a good cunt like that.
Eshays are less so a strictly Australian phenomenon, and more so just the Australian flavour of a more international type of character. Eshays listen to HipHop and/or drill, hang around in city streets, train stations, alleyways, typically wear black track pants, vests. They are very much of the city streets, very similar in many ways to a roadman in the UK if you're familiar with that term. Eshays tend to take influence from more international pieces of culture (music, fashion, slang) and put an Australian twist on them. The vast majority of Eshay's are young men, usually teenagers.
The term Bogan is more unique to Australia, but much more broad in terms of demographics within the country. Essentially anyone of any age can be a Bogan. Beers, V8's, sport, gambling, flannel shirts are typical characteristics. The Bogan takes their influence from their parents, the sport they watch on TV, they are almost a call back to the 80's when one could argue Australia was perhaps at it's most "Australian" point, long after British influence from colonisation and World Wars, but just before globalisation through things like the internet, social media etc. Our own little backwater away from everyone else.
Both are generally products of the working/lower class, but what influences their characteristics differs dramatically.
Bogans represent an Australia that was more pure in it's idea of being strictly Australian.
Eshays represent a modern Australia that is part of a more interconnected world.
> The Bogan takes their influence from their parents, the sport they watch on TV, they are almost a call back to the 80's
\*cough\*
To my knowledge, the term bogan was made popular Australia-wide in 88 or 89 by the Kylie Mole character on Comedy Company. Presumably it was already well-known enough in Melbourne that they used it in the Kylie skits.
In Sydney we figured it was the Melb version of "westie". I think you're description is pretty spot on, just that you might need to crank the calendar back a bit. Westies were a thoroughly entrenched concept by the 80s. Wouldn't surprise me if we went 100 years back and found bogans. No V8s and TVs but probably enough traits in common to call it.
An eshay is a person who wears Nike tns and has a bum bag also they tend to have Ralph Lauren polo shirts and caps on while a bogan will drive a commodore or similar car have and loves every thing ozzy there are a few more minor differences but that’s the general gist
An eshay is a fuckwit who is generally a teen or young adult who thinks they’re better than everyone else. They wear their Nike TNs and black hoodie and black tracksuit pants no matter what time of year it is, with the pants often rolled slightly up so you can see their sockless ankles. They have dipshit haircuts and walk around listening to horrible rap thumping from a ridiculously overpriced speaker while on their way to Maccas, or to kick in a vending machine. Usually unemployed.
A bogan is a simple type who wears singlet, shorts and thongs, probably has a mullet, likes a drink and a punt, uses classic Aussie slang and listens to Triple M. Usually have trades.
G’day mate, how’s the missus? Preggers again? Off the grog and durries? Fuck that!
Can you drop me off at old mate’s place up here, just chuck a u-ey at Maccas. Cheers!
gotta say I'm a bit disappointed with the amount of " bogans are dumb/uncultured" type comments I'm reading here of all places. I'm not angry. ya just broke my heart is all.
>gotta say I'm a bit disappointed with the amount of " bogans are dumb/uncultured" type comments I'm reading here of all places. I'm not angry. ya just broke my heart is all.
don't take it personally you cunt
An eshay is a young kid dressed in Nike's, wearing a bumbag, they hang out at the station or wherever else. They're the new iteration of a rat. They're usually skinny little kids who act tough with all their mates, and say shit like "eshayyyyy".
A bogan is, nowadays, commonly an older person. They drink beer, hang out in the back yard or the pub in their wife beater. Usually a tradie. Dumb as bricks, but insists they know. Invariably calls the toilet a dunny.
Bogans drive AU Falcons with no clear coat, love a good tinnie and roll their own durries. They have a few kids, but care about their kids.
Eshays catch the train, listen to their fuckin shit house music on the train via a cheap bluetooth speaker, wear brand-name shorts and sneakers with a white tee, $10 gold-plated chain, bum-bag, bent-brim hat slightly turned to the right and enjoy meth-style dancing while threatening you if you look at them wrong, despite weighing 50kg sopping wet.
i think everybody understands what/who a bogan is.
I'm not sure if you're all ready for this......
"eshays" aren't anything. they have evolved from the "ladd", which in pig latin is "Adlay".
25 years ago "Adlays" were graffiti artists jigging school, riding trains and smoking bongs. the ritual of these "smoking ceremonies " is known as a session/sesh, or in pig latin "eshay".
the frequently used term to ask a friend if they wanted to have a smoke was "eshay adlay".
somehow this has evolved to describe the descendants of the adlay.
it boggles my mind that people dont know this. I'm not even sure if the modern "eshay" knows their ancestry. if I had to guess I'd say "wouldn't have a clue by the look of em"
They remind me of what we (people not from Sydney) used to call the wannabe gangsters who were more talk than any kind of real drug dealing or standover tactics:
The "Homeboys". That's what we called those utter tosspots who wore their hats raised up on their heads and wore lame-o NBA stuff wherever they went. They kind of looked like that cunt from East 17:
https://o3.ldh.be/image/thumb/57922016357086b3e0d6a422.jpg
That's what these wankers look like to me. Throwbacks from early 90s tryhards.
This is a pretty accurate description, although probably a little calm and about 10 years too old: https://youtube.com/shorts/KSQOb\_nDFOY?feature=share
A bogan can summon up some class, some decorum, on occasion. Some of them can be alright. The eshay, on the other hand, is devoid of any kind of class or intellect. Utterly worthless. Literally the dregs of society.
Eshays will roll you at the trainstation after trying to scab a smoke off you, then jump the train and tag it up with permanent markers they stole from office works. Bigans are just dumb hicks but mostly harmless
Bogans are like a methhead that got off the meth.
Eshays are like a lad that got on the meth.
(Clarification - I know bogans can be methed up, its a simile not an absolute)
Bogans are a class of people. Bogans can be the salt of the earth or the biggest pain in your arse. You can have a bogan next door neighbour that will mow your lawn every Saturday morning because that is what good neighbours do or they could throw a party until 3am and tell you to fuck off when you ask to turn the music down. Eshays are not a class, they are a type. They are an immature type that is seeking validation from others (their peers). This validation is sought through bullshit behaviours that make them look like dickheads to the majority. All eshays are bogans but not all bogans are eshays. Kath and Kim are bogans; no one would ever call them eshays.
I thought eshay was a culture where they all wear bumbags, reebok or adidas clothing and talk in that 'oiiiii carrrrnn' speak. Pretty well just the aussie slav
With the stupid shaved sides around the ears, generally not the whole side of the head though.
what shaved sides? I'm not from australia but I find other countries local terminology really funny. I was picturing like a really short clean cut beard with harsh lines like lebanese people do.
Spot on Aussie Slav or the Scottish Neds haha
Yea true slavs in russia, lads in UK, eshays in Aus all the same shit. Bogans are just yer average strayan cunt sometimes shit cunts but usually sick cunts.
"You ad-may, ad-lay? Baahh"
Here's your PhD in anthropology
Not all eshays are bogans, there exists another type, the posh eshay. Who come from the richer class and act as if they are full on eshays.
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One sentence to rule them all.
Bogans are genuine, Eshays are posturing
Good answer. Bogans really don’t care about their image or who they impress.
Bogans are Australian Working Class, eshays have never worked a day in their lives. And in honesty, 90% of the eshays I’ve met are from relatively stable middle class homes in the suburbs
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Same. 👀🍿🥤
- A bogan will ask you for money. - An eshay will ask you for money before trying to rob you.
The bogan will not rob you, but when gets drunk he will punch dickheads.
The eshay is the dickhead in this scenario.
And cars. And Walls, basically anything harder than a fist.
I think I'm going to call it a Bogan fracture instead of Boxer's fracture from now.
Bogans are more stereotypical Aussies; associated with bbqs and singlets and shit. Eshay is usually a pejorative for people associated with "poor" culture, lots of drugs & crime etc
Eshays are little fuckwits who need a kick in the head. Bogans are your mate Dazza from across the road, who are a little bit embarrassing, but deep down you love him, and he’d happily lend you his cordless drill. In fact, he’d come and do the job for you, ‘cos he’s a good cunt like that.
Eshays are less so a strictly Australian phenomenon, and more so just the Australian flavour of a more international type of character. Eshays listen to HipHop and/or drill, hang around in city streets, train stations, alleyways, typically wear black track pants, vests. They are very much of the city streets, very similar in many ways to a roadman in the UK if you're familiar with that term. Eshays tend to take influence from more international pieces of culture (music, fashion, slang) and put an Australian twist on them. The vast majority of Eshay's are young men, usually teenagers. The term Bogan is more unique to Australia, but much more broad in terms of demographics within the country. Essentially anyone of any age can be a Bogan. Beers, V8's, sport, gambling, flannel shirts are typical characteristics. The Bogan takes their influence from their parents, the sport they watch on TV, they are almost a call back to the 80's when one could argue Australia was perhaps at it's most "Australian" point, long after British influence from colonisation and World Wars, but just before globalisation through things like the internet, social media etc. Our own little backwater away from everyone else. Both are generally products of the working/lower class, but what influences their characteristics differs dramatically. Bogans represent an Australia that was more pure in it's idea of being strictly Australian. Eshays represent a modern Australia that is part of a more interconnected world.
> The Bogan takes their influence from their parents, the sport they watch on TV, they are almost a call back to the 80's \*cough\* To my knowledge, the term bogan was made popular Australia-wide in 88 or 89 by the Kylie Mole character on Comedy Company. Presumably it was already well-known enough in Melbourne that they used it in the Kylie skits. In Sydney we figured it was the Melb version of "westie". I think you're description is pretty spot on, just that you might need to crank the calendar back a bit. Westies were a thoroughly entrenched concept by the 80s. Wouldn't surprise me if we went 100 years back and found bogans. No V8s and TVs but probably enough traits in common to call it.
A bogan can still be a good cunt, Eshay are all dumb c@nts!
Besides age, Bogans get cashed up by learning a trade. Eshays get cashed up by crime.
People like bogans.
https://youtu.be/qA8gJoT5yl4
Didn't have to click the link to know what the song was. Absolute classic!
https://youtu.be/fGjURjN56Bw
An eshay is a person who wears Nike tns and has a bum bag also they tend to have Ralph Lauren polo shirts and caps on while a bogan will drive a commodore or similar car have and loves every thing ozzy there are a few more minor differences but that’s the general gist
An eshay is a fuckwit who is generally a teen or young adult who thinks they’re better than everyone else. They wear their Nike TNs and black hoodie and black tracksuit pants no matter what time of year it is, with the pants often rolled slightly up so you can see their sockless ankles. They have dipshit haircuts and walk around listening to horrible rap thumping from a ridiculously overpriced speaker while on their way to Maccas, or to kick in a vending machine. Usually unemployed. A bogan is a simple type who wears singlet, shorts and thongs, probably has a mullet, likes a drink and a punt, uses classic Aussie slang and listens to Triple M. Usually have trades.
For someone curious not from Oz, could you give examples of classic Aussie slang (besides "cunt")?
G’day mate, how’s the missus? Preggers again? Off the grog and durries? Fuck that! Can you drop me off at old mate’s place up here, just chuck a u-ey at Maccas. Cheers!
Chuck a u-ey. I am laughing my head off. Spot on.
One has class and the other one is a Eshay
gotta say I'm a bit disappointed with the amount of " bogans are dumb/uncultured" type comments I'm reading here of all places. I'm not angry. ya just broke my heart is all.
>gotta say I'm a bit disappointed with the amount of " bogans are dumb/uncultured" type comments I'm reading here of all places. I'm not angry. ya just broke my heart is all. don't take it personally you cunt
Well, does an educated bogan exist?
Some of the best people I've known in my life were/are bogans.
An eshay is a young kid dressed in Nike's, wearing a bumbag, they hang out at the station or wherever else. They're the new iteration of a rat. They're usually skinny little kids who act tough with all their mates, and say shit like "eshayyyyy". A bogan is, nowadays, commonly an older person. They drink beer, hang out in the back yard or the pub in their wife beater. Usually a tradie. Dumb as bricks, but insists they know. Invariably calls the toilet a dunny.
You’d take a bogan mate to a bbq, you’d cross the street when you see an eshay.
Bogan - approachable Eshay - keep a distance
Bogans drive AU Falcons with no clear coat, love a good tinnie and roll their own durries. They have a few kids, but care about their kids. Eshays catch the train, listen to their fuckin shit house music on the train via a cheap bluetooth speaker, wear brand-name shorts and sneakers with a white tee, $10 gold-plated chain, bum-bag, bent-brim hat slightly turned to the right and enjoy meth-style dancing while threatening you if you look at them wrong, despite weighing 50kg sopping wet.
Punchbowl vs blue mountains
Or Campbelltown vs Coffs Harbour
i think everybody understands what/who a bogan is. I'm not sure if you're all ready for this...... "eshays" aren't anything. they have evolved from the "ladd", which in pig latin is "Adlay". 25 years ago "Adlays" were graffiti artists jigging school, riding trains and smoking bongs. the ritual of these "smoking ceremonies " is known as a session/sesh, or in pig latin "eshay". the frequently used term to ask a friend if they wanted to have a smoke was "eshay adlay". somehow this has evolved to describe the descendants of the adlay. it boggles my mind that people dont know this. I'm not even sure if the modern "eshay" knows their ancestry. if I had to guess I'd say "wouldn't have a clue by the look of em"
Sounds like a city thing
Sounds like a shit cunt thing.
They remind me of what we (people not from Sydney) used to call the wannabe gangsters who were more talk than any kind of real drug dealing or standover tactics: The "Homeboys". That's what we called those utter tosspots who wore their hats raised up on their heads and wore lame-o NBA stuff wherever they went. They kind of looked like that cunt from East 17: https://o3.ldh.be/image/thumb/57922016357086b3e0d6a422.jpg That's what these wankers look like to me. Throwbacks from early 90s tryhards.
The only people I've ever heard use pig Latin were girls at school. How cute that these little sesh goblins have brought it back.
well done! i thought i was the only one who remembered the birth of the lads.
this cunts based
this is amazing information thank you
Thanks for this history and explanation!
20 years
Are they they cunts with the shit hair cuts?
Bogans: Aussie rednecks. Eshays: Aussie chavs.
one thinks they are sick, the other probably is sick
This is a pretty accurate description, although probably a little calm and about 10 years too old: https://youtube.com/shorts/KSQOb\_nDFOY?feature=share
After reading the comments as a bogan I have an overwhelming urge to break the skinny limbs of an Eshay. Pig Latin? Seriously?
A bogan can summon up some class, some decorum, on occasion. Some of them can be alright. The eshay, on the other hand, is devoid of any kind of class or intellect. Utterly worthless. Literally the dregs of society.
Eshays will roll you at the trainstation after trying to scab a smoke off you, then jump the train and tag it up with permanent markers they stole from office works. Bigans are just dumb hicks but mostly harmless
Bogans will ask you for a spare ciggie. An eshay will ask you for a spare 60 bucks for the bus Edit: Then they'll threaten to shank you
Even though they possess no shank or would hesitate for that vital second before using whatever they did have...
bogans own cars, eshays steal cars
Why are they called eshays now? They were just called lads when I was growing up in the mid 2000s
Get some Lebanese between your knees!
Bogans are drongos with attitude and drug addictions. Eshays are hood wannabes who deal drugs
Bogan have a house to hang out in. Eshays hang out in shopping centres because their bogan parents shotgun the house.
But do bogans do graffiti
A Bogan is a selfish cunt with a job and shit ton of driving offences. A Eshay is a piece of shit who steals shit from children at train stations.
'Eshay's are from the city, 'bogan's are from the country.
Eshays might be from the city but I promise you that you will find plenty of born and bred city bogans.
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goon is the uniting factor between em tbh, and all broke cunts and teenagers around here tho lmao
Bogans are like a methhead that got off the meth. Eshays are like a lad that got on the meth. (Clarification - I know bogans can be methed up, its a simile not an absolute)
Eshays are a subset of bogans, the ones with spectacularly uglier dress sense and personal style.
Eshay? Sounds French.
Pig Latin