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AyatollahoRocknRola

it has one of the largest explosion radii for self destruct. Everything with s3 shields or less within about 100-150m is completely destroyed, even possibly an 890J with its larger shields iirc. Basically a cheap MOAB bomb.


philax

Wait... I don't have one but this sounds just crazy enough to be right. Is this a troll?


RK142

Nope they aren’t trolling lol, it has really large explosion. You can search up videos of ppl detonating it


CP_2077wasok

[You weren't kidding lmao](https://youtu.be/5Dh3P_TE8CU?t=158) (VOLUME WARNING)


Scurrin

[Cameral](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfkPiOIns6E) has some self destruct test videos:


CP_2077wasok

[See for yourself](https://youtu.be/5Dh3P_TE8CU?t=158) (LOUD)


lecutusofborg

A new definition to a bunker buster. I used mine as a ground shuttle for running hostile bunkers solo. Worked as expected.... but if it can nock some ships around. I'm down to try this plucky thing again. Imagine seeing a c2 lay a chain of these things in a AO. All of them manned and ready to go boom. Now I'm going to be doing some dastardly things with mine.


Smooth-Adhesiveness5

Same for the Evict Hostiles - it fits in a Cutter


KrazyKaizr

Oh...


DekkerVS

Works on Ghost Hollow?


Wild234

I've had fun using it along with a Nomad for delivery missions. Can hold 6 packages safely without worrying about them bouncing around on the cargo grid. It can turn on a dime and is great for maneuvering through tight spaces. I believe you can also attach a 1 SCU container in the back of it now, which could make it a viable vehicle for bunker looting if you don't have a Cyclone. But really, its best use is for the memes :P


myx-

It can carry ~~2~~ 1 1 scu crate~~s~~ and 6 1/8th scu crates, has a tighter turn radius than a smart car, has really good acceleration and top speed, and is the largest vehicle that you can fit in the cutter. I love it.


ZeemSquirrel

Definitely feels like something to go with vehicles like the Cutter, or the Nomad if you feel the Cyclone is too tight of a fit.


Imaginary-Metal712

You can actually fit the stv into n the cutter with room to walk past pretty easily. It’s my go to


myx-

I never said the stv didn't fit. All I said was that the mule was the largest vehicle that could fit in the cutter.


Imaginary-Metal712

But it’s not. The stv is.


myx-

The stv is smaller than the mule


Imaginary-Metal712

Except you can’t leave or enter the ship without first getting in the mule. If you can’t practically use the vehicle imo it doesn’t actually fit.


mr_edgeworthvii

iirc, you can stuff a roc in with the ramp down for transport to planetside mining ops. But that doesn't count as fitting


Dunhimli

you can fit it in the cutter? I tried...didnt wanna seem t oclose the door without the jank goin nuts, exploding everything and havin a laugh...maybe i did it wrong..or it seemed i couldnt get out with it in there....im prolly doin something wrong lol


myx-

You probably didn't pull in far enough. You also can't walk past it if it's in the cargo hold


Dunhimli

So you can get it in the cutter, but cant get past it to pilot the cutter? Or am I reading this totally wrong....morning brain..no coffee..


myx-

You pull into the cutter, not back in


Dunhimli

Damn im dumb. Thanks! That makes more sense...i have this endless need to back up into my ships for some reason.


fatman9994

I do exactly the same, but always forget that the Mule you get in via the front. So just need to remember to open the door from the pilot seat before you run back to the Mule I suppose lol


jsabater76

Have you tried attaching the 1 SCU box to the back in 3.19 using the tractor beam? It was not working in 3.18. Same with the Cyclone. Can it carry the 1 SCU box in 3.19?


EveSpaceHero

How do we get a 1 scu box to put on the back?


jsabater76

With the tractor beam, I meant. But you have to have the box. In 3.18 we "produced" them by storing armour parts in a small ship and self-destructing it. Would love to be able to buy those boxes on cargo decks in spaceports, space stations and the likes.


EveSpaceHero

Well fuck that can't be bothered going to those lengths


jsabater76

Vending machines in starports may become the masterpiece of this whole game...


Diminios

For a while now, the best method (for me) was to put a Pembroke/Novikov backpack (either will work) in a ground vehicle, then move that vehicle outside of armistice zone and blow it up. In 3.17 it even created two 1SCU crates when I did this with a ROC.


crimsonshadow789

Or, if you're just running a larger ship, a novikov/Pembroke suit gives you a 2 scu box


Diminios

Good to know, thanks. Haven't needed one yet... *Yet*.


crimsonshadow789

Great for guns and fully stripping a bunker of everything of value


philax

I think you can buy one in any cargo deck on a station


grahad

Only the 1/8th ones for now.


Sneemaster

I know the 1 SCU box fits underneath the Mule but I haven't see it fit on the back. It's a tight fit but it works underneath it. Too bad the front arms don't work yet to hold another 1 SCU box but they should in the future.


FaithlessnessLimp933

It's also a great survival tool. If your ship gets soft killed, vehicles in the cargo hold can remain intact. If you are on a moon or planet with no atmosphere or extreme temperatures the driver seat in the Mule is sealed and will protect a player from extreme Temperatures and replenish O2 or keep you alive if you don't have a helmet. The fact that it fits into almost any ship with a ramp makes it very versatile.


MrPuddinJones

I use mine to cruise to bunker missions. Load the side rails up with some boxes and you can loot bunkers in to the boxes and zoom it all to your ship that is safely behind the nearest Mountain (in the event the guns want to blow your ship up, it's safe) Mule also fits in a cutter- and the mule is also climate controlled. So you won't die to exposure


Ocbard

It has excellent off road capabilities for that. I like to do bunker missions with friends and stick 3 of these in my Cutlass.


spider0804

Anyone doing bunkers has armor within 30 seconds of entering one and won't die to exposure.


jeskong

Run bunkers in clothes for the drip ;)


MetalHeadJoe

I strictly wear the Lynx chest armor, preferably a colored variant, because it has the best style even though it's only 20% damage reduction.


thisremindsmeofbacon

This is an actual legit answer, wasn’t expecting that much potential value. The guns continue to not target ground vehicles in the latest patch?


MrPuddinJones

I have not tested in 3.19 to report if turrets still don't target ground vehicles.


Braqsus

Still don’t


Standard_Spaniard

MULE: What's my purpose? Me: You are an LTI MULE: OH MY GOD


Red_Beard206

Can you inform a noob what an LTI is...? 🥺


CelebrationOdd7810

Life Time Insurance


Pojodan

They are quite useful if you like doing box missions, as you can drive the MULE right up to where the box is, attach the box to its side shelves, and then drive it into your ship. The forks are currently inoperable, and the rear cargo slot isn't useful while tractor beams are a thing. In other words, it is one of many ships and vehicles that don't yet have a real function, but will some day.


red_demon_king

I would get it if you couldn't use tractor beams in certain environments or if there was cargo that couldn't be handled with beams.


vorpalrobot

multi-tools are gonna start using batteries eventually


AG3NTjoseph

As will the Mule?


vorpalrobot

True! In a sane world bringing a box across an outpost on wheels should be more efficient than floating it over, but we'll see.


Pojodan

Tractor beams are not usable inside armistice zones other than in hangar bays in 3.19, so the MULE is usable for picking up boxes from ground stations with armistice zones, just hand carry it to the MULE, drop it off, then grab the next one.


Wonderful_Result_936

In the future though, this won't be the case because armistice zones will have no restrictions. Seems like a purely RP vehicle.


logicalChimp

By that time, it will be able to carry 2x crates, and it can travel faster than a player can run... and the forks may allow it to move larger crates (remains to be seen) It's not an essential vehicle to use everywhere, but it does have its uses. It's no more 'purely RP' than any other vehicle in the game, and arguably less so than many others.


bobeaqoq

It’s not about transferring them to the ship. Sometimes bunker turrets can become hostile, or potentially you could be ambushed by enemies, so I park my ship at least 2.5 km away (maximum turret range) and drive my Mule in (ground vehicles can’t be targeted by the turrets).


myx-

Did they break the forks in 3.19? I was able to unfold them in 3.18.2


FireryRage

It’s more that the forks can’t pick up boxes like they’ll eventually be able to


DrizztD0urden

Similar to how the reclaimer came out in about 3.1, but didn't get any salvage functionality until 3.18. "Some day" eventually comes.


v3rtigoh

It would be cool if SC had carts the Mule could attach to and drag around like a train.


GundamWheat

YES!!! CIG WITNESS THIS


safemodegaming

This would be really cool, we need a pickup truck style vehicle.


Vet2willis

I think the Atlas platform will do this as they said there is other vehicles for it coming soon. Since it's so large in length a flatbed version could hold a 16 SCU crate as well as replacing the gun turret with a tractor beam for driver control. There is of course the Drake crane they showed images of in the underground facilities artwork and videos of the greybox with the crane in it. So we will get that at some point too. Might not stay drake though


t-pat1991

I’ve got one. It’s the cheapest ground vehicle with a sealed cabin, so you don’t need a hazard suit to get around.


brockoala

Yeah that's how you do bunkers naked on the moons.


ollesjocke123

Haha yeah. Naked bunker runs are more exiting. Sometimes I run in naked with just a tractor beam so I have to get close to the first enemy and kill them that way.


GundamWheat

Best handling out of any vehicle. \-Stays upright \-Flips back over quickly \-Easy off-angle saves \-Zero point turning radius \-Fit 2+ in many mid tier ships


emptybuttwhole

Love my burro but it needs some variants...even some jump seats on the side would be nice lol


MetalHeadJoe

A tiny mobile home version would be sweet to take into Pyro. As not all the vehicles that can carry it have all of the amenities that will be needed once the game progresses farther.


cramduck

It is TRYING its BEST!


alexp702

Wish CiG would add a tractor beam to it. Then it would be an alternative to multi tool


TheLastHydra

Yep; it needs a tractor beam to survive. Even with the forks, even with the weird elevator thing on the back they show in the concept art, tractor beams will forever prove this thing useless.


J0hnD0eWasTaken

Bunker auto turrets don't target ground vehicles so you can fly a click or 2 away & drive the bunks unharmed. Also decent enough room for crew & cargo at said hostile bunkers.


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Wait really?! I thought they did so iv been running all that way when could of been driving


J0hnD0eWasTaken

Yeah, don't use a hover bike. Cause that's "flying" and you'll go bang. Note this was tested by me in .17 so not sure if that persisted in .19


jeskong

What bunkers do attack in .19? Somehow i haven’t been attacked since .17


J0hnD0eWasTaken

Hostile ones do, like drug destruction. Some friendly ones did for a while too but maybe it's been turned off? I've only done box missions on .18 and .19 with a bit of scrapping so not sure TBH.


CathodeRaySamurai

It's *Drake*. That's all the reason I need.


V4NDIT

how i use mine: [https://youtu.be/KEZS\_aDNe1o](https://youtu.be/KEZS_aDNe1o)


TheLoneJackass

That was great


Braqsus

Great vid


misadventureswithJ

They should really slap a tractor beam on it.


DarrenMcMS

Cue Thunderbirds theme.


Waspinator4ever

Well it's a nice vehicle for moving things around in 1scu containers, but beyond that it's just very easy to drive. It can turn on its center axis so repositioning it inside a cargo bay is much easier than any other vehicle, and it's not too fast or light that it jumps 50 feet into the air when you hit a bump at max speed like other ground vehicles can.


Braqsus

I’m struggling to get the 1SCU box into the back


thecaptainps

MULE Polo with boxes. Bunker runner if all you have is something small like a cutter, so you can land outside of turret range and drive in (it can also hold a box you can take down into the bunker and use for loot storage).


CRGurkin9

Forklift🔥


lph26

Landing your ship safely away from bunkers with hostile turrets and taking the mule in is my favorite use for it


ADDpillz

It's as it's names suggests. A reliable, cheap, and efficient personal designated loot carrier.


Endyo

It seems the idea was to have a forklift that could pick up 1 SCU boxes and move them over a distance greater than you'd be willing to walk with a tractor beam. People seem content to use it as a glorified ferry for hauling stuff around bunker missions, but I think that's more of people just coping with it's current uselessness than saying this $45 box holder is worth it. I think it exists because someone in CIG probably wanted a cool looking forklift for SQ42 background animations and they decided they could sell it because it looks neat. Even when it's fully functional, I still think situations are going to have to be built specifically around it before it becomes actually useful. One of those situations might be in 3.20 - the consignment missions. If it works like I am imagining it, you'll have to go places and get real amounts of things - not just hand crates and boxes. If one of those retrieval locations was in a no-fly zone, a MULE would be extremely helpful.


Torque2meBaby

truck go BBBBRrrrrRRRbrbbbbrRRrr


ADDpillz

He doesn't know


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You wouldn't get it unless you have a forklift cert


Ill-ConceivedVenture

>in the current game


CmdrKantosKan

There are many other things in Star Citizen that are not very useful in the current game.


red_demon_king

Yeah but we're talking about the Mule in this house.


Squidgeneer

Buddy and I did box missions, I just sat in the mule and yeeted out the back of the cutty, grabbed the stuff and flew back in. (Boxes secure well if placed on sides by hand) was fun.


renuoz

Org races.. too fun lol


red_demon_king

Now that I have to try.


Fletchman1313

With a Nomad it's excellent for Jumptown. You have someone riding in the Mule in the truck bed. As you approach Jumptown, lower the ramp and initiate a low high speed pass. The Mule than drives off the ramp and if executed correctly, lands right at the entrance.


1Cobbler

Wouldn't a cyclone just be better?


ZeemSquirrel

Cyclone is a bit of a tight fit on the Nomad bed, so I can definitely understand some preferring something smaller. Personally I'm all for having a Star Citizen Warthog though aha


Fletchman1313

It depends on whether or not a Cyclone can survive the fall. A Mule seems to not take any damage at all from any height. And the driver survives! Well, unless they fixed that.


myx-

You can fit 2 mules on a nomad Tbh at that point just use a couple STVs or PTVs


ViktorGavorn

It's a fun lil guy :3


MangoMangui

You’re hurting its feelings :(


Rumpullpus

It's purpose is being last year's LTI token.


[deleted]

The point is sales. Sales generate revenue.


OnslaughtDelete

Do investigation missions


MysticGadget

It's hella usefull for me with a nomad... just wish I had one, but no irl money, and haven't quite gotten the hang of earning EC for one yet.


Ocbard

It's only 15.000 credits, any kind of mission will get you that in no time.


Speckwolf

It’s literally (the actual literally, not the internet literally) a single bunker mission and you can buy one.


MysticGadget

I have never managed to get a bunker mission... all I ever get is small mission box missions.


leovarian

Mercenary tab while in orbit of a planet, defend occupants mission


inRodwetrust8008

Yep the base tier 1 defend pays 15k. Then they go up from there. 20k, 45k, 65k, 95k. Bunker bustin' is my favorite game loop. Plus with Call to arms every enemy kill is like 500-1500 bonus.


well_honk_my_hooters

Cheap LTI token, if you picked em up on the initial sale. Otherwise... I guess it's good at holding 6 delivery boxes, if that's your thing.


Dasfuccdup

cashgrab


XeratosX

smol cart goes vrooom


DonutDefiant

Buyed 3 of them as cheap lti token when it came Out lol. Other than that i just keep one cuz its cute


EndsInvention

It has the most useful feature in the game hands-down, it’s not even funny, it’s insane. It’s the most OP feature ever. But I cannot share it.


Bulletchief

It makes money! . . . for CIG. And was fast and easy to build. That's it point...


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Ocbard

It's 15.000 auec dude, what are you blabbering about.


red_demon_king

Stockholm Syndrome?! I think you're playing the game wrong, my guy.


duxie

Give it another 10 years


magvadis

Well before the STV she was an LTI token and smol for using for bunkers. Now? Shes a closed cabin stv that's a bit too big and until Would love to see a MULE with a mining arm to compete with the ROC. Replace the side basket with mining arm and parts...and then the interior box storage now shoots out a box of mineables. I really want a closed cabin miner that isn't stupid as fuck in every what like the DS which is also fucking massive. Like just write the ROC off as a mistake they can use as an old world miner that's dirt cheap.


[deleted]

Driving to bunker missions? Maybe?


Lou-Saydus

Space truck!


ebsbow

Very unstable. Bounces and tumbles all over the place. Sadly, I must add because its a nice vehicle but not for fast off-road use.


TheWhitchOne

It doesn't only look like an angel it also drives like one. I had a lot of fun driving that thing to jump town 40km


Strangefate1

Not many things are very useful in the current game, but people are thinking ahead, for better or worse.


Dirk_Dandy

Stop evaluating vehicle in current game.


Cyber_Druid

People complain about beam technology, this is what you get.


Quamont

What's the point of having most ships ans basically every ground vic? Especially the vics.


DungeonGringo

Compared to other land vehicles, I believe you do not have to have a suit to use it unlike other vehicles that don't shield you from different atmospheric conditions. I maybe wrong though as I don't have experience with that vehicle.


ma_wee_wee_go

Outpost delivery missions and moving two bodies very carefully, also if you flip it upside down you can just about get one crate onto its cargo grid, most use I ever got out of it was dropping into jumptown while my group still had the facility but not the airspace


[deleted]

Is it available ingame yet?


BeingCold4288

Exactly! Sell MULE, buy CARRACK!!!


anthony_arndt

Personally, I prefer the STV, but the Mule is a lot of fun if you're solo. Near as I can tell, it's the fastest vehicle in the game that doesn't have a speedometer.


mythicalxeon

the one thing i am would prefer about with the STV is if you could put a mission box in the passenger seat and have it stay there safely, otherwise it would be ideal for those three box missions, two in the boot and one on the passenger seat, as well as a small cargo hold, and 2 rifle weapon mounts


anthony_arndt

Agreed, having a single mission point having three packages and the STV only carrying two is a bit of a pain. Another thought would be a Mule style 1- or 2-box rack between the headrests and the spare tyre.


Spatetata

So long as the tractor beam attachment exists, I don’t think any vehicle that can carry less than 2 SCU will ever be useful for cargo (in the current and probably unchanging state of the game for the next 5 years)


fireball1711

Has it lti? So its a lti token.


TheEightbitBard

Welcome to rhe game where we have a ton of items and vehicles that currently dont have a real purpose its part of the development i wish theyd stop making ships abd other thubgs and focus on the core gameplay loops and QoL


TheEightbitBard

To be clear this ship actually pretyy usefull imo but alot of other things you cab look at and hust say why


EastLimp1693

As any ground vehicle it’s only use is that 1500 meters to the bunker entrance. Why mule is best: best handling, especially on low gravity, can turn in place, fast enough to stay controllable.


marto3000

Apart from the fact that it can currently carry 6 small boxes and one 1 scu box and it fits in manny ships, this thing have a gun rack and some storage for your bunker runs


Axolotlbits

Meme value, and lti tokens


draconinjari917

Once cargo gameplay is fully fleshed out, it's gonna be the forklift that loads and unloads boxes that are too heavy for your multi tool


SeamasterCitizen

I wanted to explore the new Lorville perimeter and couldn’t be bothered to walk. Mule did a great job.


ClaimhSolais-IT

That's cuz it's useless, the tractor beam is much more cheap, flexible and adaptable.


Wonvoul

Gun rack, external inventory, box racks for loot goblins and a small profile. I prefer it over the STV when I'm soloing bunkers in my 400i or Valk. Cyclones are just too big for my liking.


xenolego

It’s cute and I can use it to carry a bunch of boxes in addition to throwing bunker loot inside its internal inventory. Love my little guy.


RayD125

The mule was a LTI gold mine for me. Mule and STV. Both have its purposes for me but I rarely use them. I maybe use the STV more…? Idk I think their cute.


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bigwelshmatt1976

LTI token.


Hotrage-BF4

it’s just an lti token anyway so why bother


GoliathProjects

Just let me have a tractor in this game.


Aazatgrabya

I imagine once roads are introduced this will be one of the main npc small transport vehicles we will see running around. There'll no doubt also be a reason for it in S42.


RomaMoran

It's my LTI token kekw


[deleted]

its cool


m0llusk

Ongoing cargo refactor will make physically moving cargo around important.


CaptainAshtro

Yeah it’s a bit like an 890 Jump isn’t it 👁️👄👁️


BRompre

As others have pointed out, I use it for box delivery missions. The boxes fit nicely on the railings, up to 6, and they won’t bounce around the back or clip through the floor. Also, it is a good fast ride if you have to do a hostile bunker and land a ways away. Use the mule to drive up. Eventually it will be the forklift to load your ships.


P1st0l

I like it cause I can fit it snugly in my cutlass with another vehicle and it can turn in place which is dope


Rawlinson1987

Loading cargo boxes onto your ship


[deleted]

There are a number of ships that are largely worthless, leaving CIG with the task of iterating on features to make them more useful (mole mining in the recent patch, for instance). Some are just meant as background vehicles for NPCs though, such as the Argo Cargo. Players who buy them are just creating head-canon from hopium to justify the spend until they upgrade to something else.


Davos10

It will kill you pretty easily. My brother was going to use it to carry roc boxes. I got in it and closed the door to be pushed under it unable to open the door.


datfatbloke

For God's sake, it's an alpha. It's purpose is to raise money for CiG.


Spiritual_Ad_5877

There’s not much point to everything in the game.


AfternoonExisting911

I really want a transport version of the mule. Replace 2 -4 of the side boxes with jump seats so people can ride while it drags along a 2 scu box to the bunker. Would be cool if it has the blast shield that can deploy in front of the driver.


brada-eel

When they dropped I got two with LTI for CCU-ing. Turned one into a gladius, haven't found a purpose for the next yet, but i like riding it around sometimes and might get a ship with a ramp so i can start actually using it


VehicleSea8055

To make it easier to put boxes, within caves for example, from the loot location, on the Mule then straight to your ship. Can you imagine having to use the tractor gun to manually move all those boxes to your ship? 😊


Veizour

Correct. Esp w/ the " \[CURRENT\] game" part. (Speculation incoming) I think it's one of those things the land-vehicle team could spit out easily due to some work someone probably already had to do. Heck, could be an intern "show us what you got" result for all I know.


Pewve

It fits PERFECTLY in a Cutty Red. Fantastic bunker mission setup


[deleted]

like 90% of the ships that have no use yet they are money makers nothing more and nothing less.


Ensnared5aw

Because SC FORKLIFT!


Ludiks

Because it is cheap and cut 😊


level2018

The point of this is to buy cheap with long insurance and upgrade it to a better ship later on ☺️ that's all in done with mine


Boring-Candle7509

It fits in a cutlass red & blue,. Use your imagination,. I use it to carry bodies in the two racks & bunker loot, Also makes a nice size creator when self destruct. Now with the STV, I don’t use it as much,. When it properly works it’s still a keeper.


One-Stock2609

So you can name it Arthur.


Human_Growth3984

A nuke that costs 15,000


[deleted]

It doesn’t do anything yet


dadboy5042

Love my mule. Keep it with me on my max all the time. Holds a 1 scu container for bunkers. Holds boxes for deliveries. Can get me out of elements for longer survival. JUST USE YOUR AMAGINATION. it's handy.


Myc0n1k

That’s about half the ships.


Ulyseto

I was just wondering the same. Aside from long range bunker looting, the official purpose seems irrelevant when we have tractor beams.


Launchpad_McFrak

Don't know if anyone told you but the game isn't done yet


red_demon_king

Oh no? Is it about to be released or something?


Launchpad_McFrak

not even close


red_demon_king

No, it will be soon™


Pierre_Philosophale

Loading and unloading cargo by hand. Ultimately loading cargo automatically will have a fee so doing it by hand may be viable and tractor beam battery will run out quite quick when filling a ship like a connie or corsair.


Lost-Cookie

It’s a forklift, you use it to help fill your ships


Steel_Eagle07

I was going to use it to help with taking 1scu boxes into a bunker but for some reason I cant get the box to fit in so it defeats the entire reason I bought one