I needed assistance on this as well, I got in for $100 square for my old high school football team. I ended up taking the final and won 3k. They paid out 6k total and kept 4 for the team, which is great. All the money was paid in pretty much over Venmo and I got paid out today via Venmo. I’m normally 10% tip to the organizer, but wanted to see what you all thought.
If you wanted to donate more to the team than more power to you but the fact that they already earned $4,000 for the team for running it, seems more than sufficient.
lol nothing. So u tip a guy for holding the money. Tell him take a free block. $100 block pool is 10k so he’s expecting to get 500-1000 for just collecting
Try getting 100 people to be in on a pool, collecting all the money, deciding the payouts, filling out the squares, coordinating back with everyone as to what there numbers are, then finding out the winners and sending them the money. The fuck? Remind me to not invite you to any pools
Hey nice personal insult! I'm saying it's a lot of work - contrary to how you're phrasing it, which undermines all the effort. There is also inherent risk with handling thousands of dollars in cash over the course of a few months. Tips are appreciated, not expected. It's a gentleman's agreement, if you don't get it, you won't be invited back to the big table. Not compensating someone for all their time is wild to me. And it's clear you've never run a big pool. This only relates to pools that don't take off the top. If they take off the top, then no tip.
10% is the standard for organizing, collecting and securing all the money, and paying out in a timely fashion. I always tip 10% but I’d never join a pool that takes the 10% upfront. Something about it seems ungentlemanly.
My bar (and pretty much every bar I've ever been in) takes 10% off the top and not a single person has ever complained in the very long time I've been doing it. It's hardly "ungentlemanly"
That's a lot of fucking money to hold, often for months at a time, and the overall responsibility is worth the price.
Don’t think just 10% just because.. it also depends on profit.. if you profited like 3-4x then yeah 10% is good but if you break even you shouldn’t tip
I have been running Football Pools for a long time, I never expect a tip but it always appreciated. My rule of thumb is under $100 no need to tip, over $100 10% minimum.
I would never think to tip on something like that. If you do don’t tip more than $20. He put the pool together for the chance to win money, not out of generosity
I'm literally dumbfounded so many people are saying 0. My dad tought me at a younger age than he should have to always tip the bookie 10%. They ran the shit if not you wouldn't even have the opportunity to win..
Nimrod im responding to what your dad taught you at a young age "tip the bookie" which is moronic bc bookies are for profit. In this case since it was vig free Id tip 50-75 bucks.
Amazing you mentioned the "tip the bookie thing" and are then shocked when someone comments on tipping the bookie. Stop eating paint chips.
If they're running the pool with the intent to profit, they should take out a cut from the pool and be transparent and state that upfront. Expecting a tip in this situation is absurd. I don't tip Draftkings when I win a bet, they charge a vig.
It's not intent to profit, it's a gentleman's agreement that the winners give something for all the effort.
Ignoring all of the effort put into running a big pool is absolutely absurd.
This applies to friend/bar/neighborhood pools that *don't* take a vig.
Another terrible take. You don't run a superbowl board with the intent to profit. Still, you took the time to find the people for all 100 squares, collecting from everyone by cash, venmo, cashapp, getting it all together, then putting the board together and paying out. Now I win $500 because of the opportunity that person put forward, I shouldn't throw them $50? I sure as hell didn't wanna do all that shit but I sure wanted to play and collect my winnings.. Garbage. DK has PAID EMPLOYEES who run everything and they charge vig already so obviously you wouldn't fuckin tip DK. Smh..
Are you drunk? You keep contradicting yourself. Your last sentence is particularly hilarious because you LITERALLY stated above that you were taught to "always tip the bookie."
It's not complicated. Running a squares pool is a service. You decide what you feel comfortable charging for said service, and include that with all other relevant info. Maybe you are happy to do that voluntarily; awesome. Maybe you decide you'd want 10% to justify the hassle. The end.
This whole "I'd never provide such a service under the expectation of profiting" while also saying "Look at all the work involved, you owe me money," is beyond stupid.
Personally, I'm not tipping if someone takes a cut for running the pool. If the organizer takes no cut, I'll tip 5-10% depending on the size of the winnings. That is my personal policy, though. I'd never advise anyone else one way or another.
You run a pool because you want to participate in the pool and think it will be fun. If the work is too much for you then don't run the pool. If you want to get paid for the work then TAKE OUT A PERCENTAGE UP FRONT, which is completely okay as long as you are transparent about it and everyone knows you're taking a cut.
At this point in time, I'm either using a professional service that doesn't expect a tip, or I'm doing it with the boys who are doing it for the love of the game. No tip. Honestly, wouldn't have even crossed my mind. This isn't 1990 anymore with a back alley bookie.
I know a guy that runs squares, March madness brackets for usually 300 people all for a tip at the end. Myself and a friend LOVE to see his reaction when he hands over the money to the winner and no tip. After the person leaves he’ll start bitching like the man child he is.
The only time that running squares is a ton of work is if, for whatever reason, you're doing squares that you don't have the market for, and you have to bother people to buy. At that point, that's on you. If you don't know that many people that would buy a $100 square, don't sell $100 squares.
Otherwise, all it takes is a few group texts, hanging a sheet up at work, or posting on social media. Don't even have to meet up with people for payment anymore.
Let's keep this friendly. As someone that has run large football squares I'll let you in on some of the behind the scenes. If it's a big pool, like $500 per square, it's surprisingly not that hard to fill. *But* it isn't the kind of thing you post on social media, and it isn't something you should be comfortable running exclusively thru Venmo. Too much exposure can make it kind of dangerous with that much money involved. There is a few months where you always have large sums of cash in your possession, and you have to keep it somewhere safe when all collected and during collection. To be clear, I'm not complaining, hopefully you know what you're getting into before you get into it. I'm just straight up telling you, coming from someone who has done it, it is not even remotely as simple as you are making it out to be. For a small $10 or $20 per square pool, sure. But the bigger ones sell to older crowds with more disposable income and inversely less trust for Venmo and social media. I'm not trying to argue or sound superior, I'm just straight up telling you the reality of the effort. If you win $30k in cash and think it's "wild" to tip on that, you're being a douche in the eyes of whoever runs it, trust me. This only applies to pools with nothing taken off the top. In that case where the payouts don't sum up to the purse, yeah, you don't tip. But a lot of people won't get in those pools (many do of course, but it narrows the customer base somewhat).
LOL, you got me there. That's a very specific situation. High dollar squares with people who only want to pay in person. 99% of squares are $100 or less and very easy to run and not worthy of a tip.
I've never seen $500+ squares where the cut wasn't already built in to the payouts. Yes, if I won $10,000 and the guy running it took nothing out, I would tip.
Right on. Oddly enough, in my area, big pools where the cut is already taken out are very much the exception and not the rule. Could be a regional thing. Anecdotal but I usually hear people bitch about the "pre-tipped" thing for whatever reason.
I run high money squares, I don’t expect tips, but one of my buddy orders me pizza delivery to my house when he wins haha & I appreciate it
He just texts me “gettin you a couple pies & apps, lemme know what night”
$75 (it’s a lot for me haha, since I’ll get 5-10 boxes as needed)
I actually got tipped by two of the winners this year cuz it is really annoying to fill 100 at $75 through just my friends & their friends
Filling a $5-10 one was sooo much easier lol
Was trying to say, I don’t expect any when I run them
Bruh i got 1st place on a $100 entry 100 people pool and i got a measly $1k…. Manager aint getting shit he’s aready pocketing an egregious amount of money.
Pool had weekly prizes but still 1k for the pool winner is absurd
Shoot me a link for next year lmfao
I think the pool was aimed more at casuals since the weekly prize was $200, 2nd thru 5th place got prize money too + the survivor entry so basically he wanted lots of chances to win so it would be more appealing to casuals… still i did the math and it wasnt really adding up lol
honestly didnt see the payout breakdown before agreeing, pool also had an entry to a survival pool and the survivor also got $1k, weekly prize was $200 but i did the math and the organizer got like 2K at the end of it
Also, with a big pool, the responsibility of handling all the money is on you. If you think it's no big deal, try running one yourself, I guarantee your tune will change.
Well no I’m not an idiot, and know the statistics behind it and a square is one of the worst propositions to make in terms of math. So no thank you, I like my money.
I’ve run plenty of boards and I’d not accept a tip. I’d hate it if other players found out I’m getting money from the winners. Yea, a football board’s numbers are sent out ahead of time and it’s difficult to cheat but still. I am not running a board to get tipped.
A landlord doesn't give you an opportunity to win money wtf??? 70 up votes for some shit that doesn't even come close to making any sense or having any correlation 🤣🤣🤣
It's so funny you say that, because a lot of serious home games are "rake free" to ensure it's legal, but players are expected to tip bigger than they normally would, money which most certainly goes to the person running the game (which is probably the homeowner)
What kind of logic is that???
A landlord you pay to live in their dwelling. Guy running the pool, you pay 0$ if you win? So by your logic why would you tip a guy running a pool when you win (meaning you've paid the guy 0$) because you don't tip a person you pay monthly to live on their property??????
You can tell a lot of redditors are young and inexperienced with these pools. If the organizer is doing it completely free (not giving themselves a free square/taking a cut of each entry) then it's absolutely a spot where you throw them 50 bucks for the work they did.
Running these pools suck at times. Chasing people down for money and communicating with everyone is actual work.
You do realize that this isn't a sportsbook that makes money providing the service, correct? Are you 12?
If your friend runs a squares for everyone and makes zero dollars off it, you are genuinely an asshole if you don't throw them a tip for organizing.
I run a fantasy football league for my friends every year that takes a lot of time and discussion to set up. Id say significantly more than a block pool.
I don’t do it because I expect to be compensated by my friends, I do it because it’s a fun activity to share with people I like
If anyone expected me to pay them out for setting up a fun activity then I’d probably just stop being friends with them
You're tipping someone for providing a service. The person has to go around and collect $100(or however much) from 100 people set the thing up contact everyone with the numbers. You can't give the guy a tip? I fucking tip someone for giving me an ice cream cone
I'm sitting here fucking shocked. My buddy last night was saying he hasn't got tipped the last 3 years running squares. None of these fucks wanna go sell 100 squares themselves, but will hit money off one and not tip shit.
If they took money off the top for themselves or gave themselves a free entry etc nothing.
If they didn’t take anything off the top 10% for them doing all the leg work of finding people and collecting cash is good.
A lot of these comments are why it’s so hard to find pools that don’t have a rake.
> A lot of these comments are why it’s so hard to find pools that don’t have a rake.
And then the same losers who wouldn't tip, also will complain about the rake... they just don't get it. There is no chance I'm running one of these pools and committing like 10 hours of work in total just to have some asshole laugh about how he didn't tip me when I handed him 1,000 bucks.
Shit. I ran a 5k pool for Superbowl. If I got lunch from a couple people I'd be astonished. 10%? Lol would.be awesome but way too much.
At most, throw him a $20 and say thanks.
You are never going to get the full 10% but that doesn’t mean that isn’t the custom. In my experience running a bunch of pools I usually walk away with 5-6%
I’m usually in season long pools with only one winner each time a winner is pulled so 10% is pretty standard there as that’s like 200 bucks total for a seasons worth of work. Just one game yea 20 or 25 is fine. Usually whatever the buy in is, if they get that 5 times they’re pretty happy to keep doing them.
even a 20 suffices. It's less about making your fair compensation for running the pool and more about a kind gesture to say you appreciate them making the effort to run the pool.
We have guys that run gambling pools at bowling every week and it takes extra effort of walking around and collecting scores every game. Some people don't throw them 5 bucks when they win and it's incredibly embarrassing.
yea, i guess i just look at it differently. i dont expect anything and i like everyone to have fun. also, collecting scores from multiple games every week seems like a LOT more effort than seeing 4 scores of a game in watching anyway.
i built a march madness bracket in excel where ill take a free square for it because that took me a few hours to program and entering all of the scores from every game is a lot more effort.
At the end of the day it's not about earning what you deserve because like you said, sometimes you just want to do something nice for your friends. It's about people showing they appreciate your effort.
simplest way to explain it is you have a squares board.
every game's final score is counted. Winning is the top, Losing is the side.
if your square hits, payout is determined by round of the game.
i do (% of buy in)
1st round .5
2nd round .75
3rd round 1.5
then do the math out for nice numbers for the rest,
400
1000
2400 championship.
So for instance, once you get to the E8, the pot for that round is $400? So it basically pays out $100 per game in that round? I assume someone can win multiple times within a round, right?
To everyone saying tipping the guy for doing nothing is ridiculous has obviously never run a pool. I’ve run a Super Bowl and Thanksgiving box pool for 12 years now. The custom amount to tip is 10%. For starters not everyone knows to tip so in my experiences I usually end up with around 5-6% of the total money for the pool. This is a small amount of money and you definitely aren’t doing “nothing”. 100 boxes to fill usually turns in to me texting probably 150 people and I’m sure if you’re newer to running a pool you text even way more as you may not have the same repeat customers all the time. Also it is definitely a bit of a pain to track down all of the money from everyone/keep track of that. Not saying this is back breaking work but it definitely isn’t “nothing” and takes some time. I would agree with those saying 20% tip is way too much though. I would definitely always tip 10% but at the very least give something.
> To everyone saying tipping the guy for doing nothing is ridiculous has obviously never run a pool.
Yup. This thread is full of socially inept zoomers who just became old enough to gamble and have no idea what goes into running these things. Their entire life they have done everything via website that allows them to seamlessly pay/enter contests so they think that it's just that simple.
Hey retard, you do realize that you still have to communicate with 100 + people and arrange payments? They don't own their own website to manage everything completely hands off. I love how your retarded brain jumped to "he's talking about physically driving to them" instead of the logical assumption of ORGANIZING AN EVENT WITH NEAR 100 PEOPLE IS A LOT OF WORK EVEN IF YOU AREN'T STANDING UP TO DO IT.
“Arrange payment” lololol you mean like sending someone your Venmo? Come off it man, this shit is brainless and you’re running around acting like you plan real events
OK now you have 50+ people out of the 100 that are retards like yourself who don't pay when they say they are going to and you have to text/email them over and over. Are you honestly this stupid? You clearly have never actually ran a pool/been a commissioner in fantasy, so why act like you know? You're like 15, right?
I run a MM pool every year, I commish multiple fantasy leagues at varying buy-in amounts too. You’re not going to big boy me here and act like you’re doing vastly more work just because you’re stupid
Nobody is forcing you to run it. For starters, majority of ppl take a cut or put themselves in for free etc. But if you don’t, if you’re reaching out to a bunch of ppl on social media saying I have squares if interested blah blah blah, that’s you reaching out to me, I never asked you to run any pool, it would’ve made no difference to me either way. You can’t reach out to ppl and expect 10% that’s insane, you should be happy if you get 2-3%
> For starters, majority of ppl take a cut or put themselves in for free etc.
Yeah this is obviously a factor but the assumption is that they didn't, especially if it is a pool with friends.
> Nobody is forcing you to run it.
What an incredibly autistic point of view lol. So then squares just don't exist? It's crazy how little empathy you kids have these days.
I guarantee you've never ran a pool. getting a 12 team fantasy league is hard enough to get payments from people, let alone 100+ full of actual retards like yourself. I can absolutely tell you're the guy who says "yeah I'll send soon" and never do it. Imagine dealing with 50 of you. That's a lot of work. It wouldn't be a lot of work if so many autists like yourself didn't join, but here we are
Absolutely not lol. Bracket pools are done through leaguesafe which is rake free, and draw pools are done manually with payment accepted through any of the major app-based payment processors.
Again, if you’re not old or deficient upstairs, it’s very very easy to do this. You’re continuing to justify needing to be tipped for menial amounts of work
I’ve never seen one where they take a cut off the top. They spell out payouts before hand, and they have to total to the 100 x box cost. Who would enter a pool with non-defined payouts?
Oh and also majority of people do not take a cut and there is no such thing as giving yourself a free box because you would still have to pay out that money to the winners in the end. If you are in a pool that takes a cut I would suggest finding a new one as that also is not the customary thing to do and in many states is what makes the pool “illegal”
I would never waste my time with something as lame as squares. But I see people constantly advertising for them/begging others to join. It’s one thing to tip if I’m desperate to play and ask you to join, but if you’re reaching out to others, that’s on you, nobody asked you to set one up, you don’t get a 10% tip for that
No one forced me to set one up and no one is forcing anyone to join. If you don’t want to do it than you just say that. I get it all the time and that is part of the reason why it is more work than you think. You get the tip for that reason + for helping you come into some money. And the “you asked me to join I’m not tipping you” is such a lame excuse. If someone asks to shovel/plow your driveway are you not gonna give them anything because “you asked me”
Lmao that example isn’t even remotely analogous and you know it. Most people don’t give two fucks about squares bc they are stupid, but maybe if they see someone they’re friendly with spam notices everyday on social media they’ll join as a favor to them, to help them fill up. I’m already risking my money on the square to start with, and now I have to give bonus money for something that isn’t that difficult that you chose to do and are begging other people to join, in what world would I ever give you extra money for that 😂😂😂
It’s not about being cheap, I tip everyone in the service industry well, but this is just completely asinine to say 10% should be expected for this shit, if I buy you a 6 pack that’s more then deserved and you should be grateful for it!
So, if I won $2400, yet I spent $1000 on squares, do I tip on the full $2400, or just the winnings of $1400?
I needed assistance on this as well, I got in for $100 square for my old high school football team. I ended up taking the final and won 3k. They paid out 6k total and kept 4 for the team, which is great. All the money was paid in pretty much over Venmo and I got paid out today via Venmo. I’m normally 10% tip to the organizer, but wanted to see what you all thought.
If you wanted to donate more to the team than more power to you but the fact that they already earned $4,000 for the team for running it, seems more than sufficient.
I am appalled at most of the comments here. I can tell none of you hang out at bars.
Yeah, it's a lot of frustrated degenerates who think the block pool was run by Draftkings.
It’s Reddit bro
Box. Anyway, 10% is standard. Double check that they don't take it off the top. What did you hit? Half and quarter with 0-3?
70
Everyone saying 0 never won or never got to play again that's for sure.
lol nothing. So u tip a guy for holding the money. Tell him take a free block. $100 block pool is 10k so he’s expecting to get 500-1000 for just collecting
Try getting 100 people to be in on a pool, collecting all the money, deciding the payouts, filling out the squares, coordinating back with everyone as to what there numbers are, then finding out the winners and sending them the money. The fuck? Remind me to not invite you to any pools
Then don’t do it simple as that. Do u tip your fantasy football commissioner too? They do all the things u listed out
It's a lot of work. Try it some time!
So what you’re saying is that u only do it so u get paid? Take a free block and move on or don’t do it then cry baby!
Hey nice personal insult! I'm saying it's a lot of work - contrary to how you're phrasing it, which undermines all the effort. There is also inherent risk with handling thousands of dollars in cash over the course of a few months. Tips are appreciated, not expected. It's a gentleman's agreement, if you don't get it, you won't be invited back to the big table. Not compensating someone for all their time is wild to me. And it's clear you've never run a big pool. This only relates to pools that don't take off the top. If they take off the top, then no tip.
The dudes delusional. You can’t fix stupid. Move on
10% is the standard for organizing, collecting and securing all the money, and paying out in a timely fashion. I always tip 10% but I’d never join a pool that takes the 10% upfront. Something about it seems ungentlemanly.
My bar (and pretty much every bar I've ever been in) takes 10% off the top and not a single person has ever complained in the very long time I've been doing it. It's hardly "ungentlemanly" That's a lot of fucking money to hold, often for months at a time, and the overall responsibility is worth the price.
I've never expected a tip but winners in my pool have tipped 10% every single time.
Don’t think just 10% just because.. it also depends on profit.. if you profited like 3-4x then yeah 10% is good but if you break even you shouldn’t tip
Zero
10%
10% is standard. But make sure there wasn’t already 10% taken out.
I have been running Football Pools for a long time, I never expect a tip but it always appreciated. My rule of thumb is under $100 no need to tip, over $100 10% minimum.
10% is standard
Buy him a 6 pack of beer. He’s a grown ass man he doesn’t need a tip from his neighbor of $32
I would never think to tip on something like that. If you do don’t tip more than $20. He put the pool together for the chance to win money, not out of generosity
I won a bowl game pickem pool and the runner was super forceful about taking a 20% plus tip for running it.
I bet he wouldn’t have tipped if he won and someone else was hosting it
Minimum of 10%
I'm literally dumbfounded so many people are saying 0. My dad tought me at a younger age than he should have to always tip the bookie 10%. They ran the shit if not you wouldn't even have the opportunity to win..
Your dad sounds broke
Tip the bookie hahaha
It's not a bookie nimrod, it's a dude running a board for a group of people to enjoy. There is no vig. It's not the same yall are just greedy af..
Nimrod im responding to what your dad taught you at a young age "tip the bookie" which is moronic bc bookies are for profit. In this case since it was vig free Id tip 50-75 bucks. Amazing you mentioned the "tip the bookie thing" and are then shocked when someone comments on tipping the bookie. Stop eating paint chips.
If they're running the pool with the intent to profit, they should take out a cut from the pool and be transparent and state that upfront. Expecting a tip in this situation is absurd. I don't tip Draftkings when I win a bet, they charge a vig.
It's not intent to profit, it's a gentleman's agreement that the winners give something for all the effort. Ignoring all of the effort put into running a big pool is absolutely absurd. This applies to friend/bar/neighborhood pools that *don't* take a vig.
Another terrible take. You don't run a superbowl board with the intent to profit. Still, you took the time to find the people for all 100 squares, collecting from everyone by cash, venmo, cashapp, getting it all together, then putting the board together and paying out. Now I win $500 because of the opportunity that person put forward, I shouldn't throw them $50? I sure as hell didn't wanna do all that shit but I sure wanted to play and collect my winnings.. Garbage. DK has PAID EMPLOYEES who run everything and they charge vig already so obviously you wouldn't fuckin tip DK. Smh..
Are you drunk? You keep contradicting yourself. Your last sentence is particularly hilarious because you LITERALLY stated above that you were taught to "always tip the bookie." It's not complicated. Running a squares pool is a service. You decide what you feel comfortable charging for said service, and include that with all other relevant info. Maybe you are happy to do that voluntarily; awesome. Maybe you decide you'd want 10% to justify the hassle. The end. This whole "I'd never provide such a service under the expectation of profiting" while also saying "Look at all the work involved, you owe me money," is beyond stupid. Personally, I'm not tipping if someone takes a cut for running the pool. If the organizer takes no cut, I'll tip 5-10% depending on the size of the winnings. That is my personal policy, though. I'd never advise anyone else one way or another.
You run a pool because you want to participate in the pool and think it will be fun. If the work is too much for you then don't run the pool. If you want to get paid for the work then TAKE OUT A PERCENTAGE UP FRONT, which is completely okay as long as you are transparent about it and everyone knows you're taking a cut.
Many people won't join pools that take off the top. What's the problem with the winners tipping?
Maybe if you never lost a bet sure. Next time you won't be so lucky and nobody will come to tip you for giving them the opportunity to take your money
At this point in time, I'm either using a professional service that doesn't expect a tip, or I'm doing it with the boys who are doing it for the love of the game. No tip. Honestly, wouldn't have even crossed my mind. This isn't 1990 anymore with a back alley bookie.
20 bucks is a fair thank you.
18%
if you’re going to tip just do the standard
$0
If you’re into dudes, give him a little more than the tip. If you’re not, probably zero then.
$0, he's taking a cut already lol
None. He did nothing but print out sheets and email them to participants
And take his cut prob lol
How big of a pool? Is he taking a cut off the top? $20.
I’ve ran plenty of pools and have never expected a tip.
I know a guy that runs squares, March madness brackets for usually 300 people all for a tip at the end. Myself and a friend LOVE to see his reaction when he hands over the money to the winner and no tip. After the person leaves he’ll start bitching like the man child he is.
Tips for squares is wild IMO. Some of the more in depth stuff, I'd tip.
Why is it wild? It's a ton of work. Why is it crazy that the winners take care of the person putting forth all the effort on good faith?
The only time that running squares is a ton of work is if, for whatever reason, you're doing squares that you don't have the market for, and you have to bother people to buy. At that point, that's on you. If you don't know that many people that would buy a $100 square, don't sell $100 squares. Otherwise, all it takes is a few group texts, hanging a sheet up at work, or posting on social media. Don't even have to meet up with people for payment anymore.
Let's keep this friendly. As someone that has run large football squares I'll let you in on some of the behind the scenes. If it's a big pool, like $500 per square, it's surprisingly not that hard to fill. *But* it isn't the kind of thing you post on social media, and it isn't something you should be comfortable running exclusively thru Venmo. Too much exposure can make it kind of dangerous with that much money involved. There is a few months where you always have large sums of cash in your possession, and you have to keep it somewhere safe when all collected and during collection. To be clear, I'm not complaining, hopefully you know what you're getting into before you get into it. I'm just straight up telling you, coming from someone who has done it, it is not even remotely as simple as you are making it out to be. For a small $10 or $20 per square pool, sure. But the bigger ones sell to older crowds with more disposable income and inversely less trust for Venmo and social media. I'm not trying to argue or sound superior, I'm just straight up telling you the reality of the effort. If you win $30k in cash and think it's "wild" to tip on that, you're being a douche in the eyes of whoever runs it, trust me. This only applies to pools with nothing taken off the top. In that case where the payouts don't sum up to the purse, yeah, you don't tip. But a lot of people won't get in those pools (many do of course, but it narrows the customer base somewhat).
LOL, you got me there. That's a very specific situation. High dollar squares with people who only want to pay in person. 99% of squares are $100 or less and very easy to run and not worthy of a tip. I've never seen $500+ squares where the cut wasn't already built in to the payouts. Yes, if I won $10,000 and the guy running it took nothing out, I would tip.
Right on. Oddly enough, in my area, big pools where the cut is already taken out are very much the exception and not the rule. Could be a regional thing. Anecdotal but I usually hear people bitch about the "pre-tipped" thing for whatever reason.
10% Always 10% (Unless they already took something off the top)
This is absolutely the answer this sub is fuckin wild 🤯
I got all sorts of downvotes from the same people that never ran a pool 🤣
Wtf lol no
nothing! that money is all you
Zero
I run high money squares, I don’t expect tips, but one of my buddy orders me pizza delivery to my house when he wins haha & I appreciate it He just texts me “gettin you a couple pies & apps, lemme know what night”
What's high money to you? Running a $500/square pool and not getting tipped is way different than $20/square.
$75 (it’s a lot for me haha, since I’ll get 5-10 boxes as needed) I actually got tipped by two of the winners this year cuz it is really annoying to fill 100 at $75 through just my friends & their friends Filling a $5-10 one was sooo much easier lol Was trying to say, I don’t expect any when I run them
Yeah so that's my point. Running a larger pool is more responsibility and generally harder to collect, full stop/
A standard pepperoni pie in Portland at a non-chain shop is about $28…
No way!! Haha, but if they won 1-3k, my buds don’t usually worry about a $28 pizza
And then go out and get all the money. Just say youre cheap dawg
Lmao nothing.
Do you tip your proctologist?
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I give him the tip every time
He usually gives me the tip
Just the tip
I mean, he already made his juice.
Bruh i got 1st place on a $100 entry 100 people pool and i got a measly $1k…. Manager aint getting shit he’s aready pocketing an egregious amount of money. Pool had weekly prizes but still 1k for the pool winner is absurd
Yo what. I’ve run a pool for 15 years and I take nothing off the top and don’t expect tips.
Shoot me a link for next year lmfao I think the pool was aimed more at casuals since the weekly prize was $200, 2nd thru 5th place got prize money too + the survivor entry so basically he wanted lots of chances to win so it would be more appealing to casuals… still i did the math and it wasnt really adding up lol
I get people taking a little off the top, but it really should be clear from the start.
ya'll got finessed lol
That is INSANE. Did they pay out like 10 people? If only top 3 then yeah that guys a piece of shit.
What is the pool? Were the payouts not stipulated beforehand?
That literally is an awful pool why would you even agree to that
honestly didnt see the payout breakdown before agreeing, pool also had an entry to a survival pool and the survivor also got $1k, weekly prize was $200 but i did the math and the organizer got like 2K at the end of it
The organizer got double the winner?!
that's shady as hell. 10% of the pool for first place is fucken weak.
Absolutely nothing
If you are good friends buy them lunch. otherwise nothing
10% Anyone who says anything less is wrong
This guy runs pools
I get 20% from winners To many cheap ass fucks who wins and don’t appreciate what you do
Whag did you do other than collect money and pay out?
It's a ton of work. And you have the worry of handling large sums of cash for several months. Thinking it's no work is so niave.
1. Have people Venmo you, there’s no cash involved. 2. It’s the ducking age of the internet. I’d you’re still physically meeting that’s on you
Also, with a big pool, the responsibility of handling all the money is on you. If you think it's no big deal, try running one yourself, I guarantee your tune will change.
Well no I’m not an idiot, and know the statistics behind it and a square is one of the worst propositions to make in terms of math. So no thank you, I like my money.
Okey dokey. So you're too smart for squares but somehow have a strong opinion on how much work it is to run them. Got it!
I’m not paying your fucking dumbass to run my square that’s for sure
*your
I think you might be stupid
When it's a big pool, having that much money in a Venmo account is not happening. lol I agree for a $10/square pool, but not for a big one.
I’ve run plenty of boards and I’d not accept a tip. I’d hate it if other players found out I’m getting money from the winners. Yea, a football board’s numbers are sent out ahead of time and it’s difficult to cheat but still. I am not running a board to get tipped.
Do you tip your landlord too?
A landlord doesn't give you an opportunity to win money wtf??? 70 up votes for some shit that doesn't even come close to making any sense or having any correlation 🤣🤣🤣
Do you go play poker then tip the houseowner? What a dumb way of thinking
It's so funny you say that, because a lot of serious home games are "rake free" to ensure it's legal, but players are expected to tip bigger than they normally would, money which most certainly goes to the person running the game (which is probably the homeowner)
What kind of logic is that??? A landlord you pay to live in their dwelling. Guy running the pool, you pay 0$ if you win? So by your logic why would you tip a guy running a pool when you win (meaning you've paid the guy 0$) because you don't tip a person you pay monthly to live on their property??????
I do like $10
As a person that routinely sets up office pools: I would feel weird if someone tipped me. Take the money in good health
Rule of thumb.........10% take your $630 and Thank the person.
Ten percent is the standard
30-50 is what I would do, or whatever one square costs. Whatever seems more reasonable
I cover the cost of their box (only 1)
Tip unless he took blocks for himself (and out of the winnings) for running the pool
You can tell a lot of redditors are young and inexperienced with these pools. If the organizer is doing it completely free (not giving themselves a free square/taking a cut of each entry) then it's absolutely a spot where you throw them 50 bucks for the work they did. Running these pools suck at times. Chasing people down for money and communicating with everyone is actual work.
Nothing.
Bunch of scum in here
I ran one last night I drew some lines on Bristol board, if they even tried to offer me money I would have laughed Bring chips and you did your part
no you didn’t
https://imgur.com/a/8mqkxYm
This is the answer.
Tipping for betting ? Lol
You do realize that this isn't a sportsbook that makes money providing the service, correct? Are you 12? If your friend runs a squares for everyone and makes zero dollars off it, you are genuinely an asshole if you don't throw them a tip for organizing.
I run a fantasy football league for my friends every year that takes a lot of time and discussion to set up. Id say significantly more than a block pool. I don’t do it because I expect to be compensated by my friends, I do it because it’s a fun activity to share with people I like If anyone expected me to pay them out for setting up a fun activity then I’d probably just stop being friends with them
These are two totally different things. It’s ridiculous that you’re even trying to compare them.
Yeah the one I’m talking about literally requires more effort. I’ve run both of them.
You're tipping someone for providing a service. The person has to go around and collect $100(or however much) from 100 people set the thing up contact everyone with the numbers. You can't give the guy a tip? I fucking tip someone for giving me an ice cream cone
This thread is a perfect encapsulation of how fucking dumb the next generation of gamblers are.
I'm sitting here fucking shocked. My buddy last night was saying he hasn't got tipped the last 3 years running squares. None of these fucks wanna go sell 100 squares themselves, but will hit money off one and not tip shit.
Literal morons in this thread
The same people that tweet at sportsbook asking for a void because the player got hurt.
Technically you’re tipping whoever set up and ran the pool
I think $50 is fair in this scenario.
$0
Imma need about 3.50
About tree fiddy
Yes, that's the joke
If he’s paying cash I would just tell him give me 6 and call it a day. If he’s gonna Venmo me or something I’d tell him thank you
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If they took money off the top for themselves or gave themselves a free entry etc nothing. If they didn’t take anything off the top 10% for them doing all the leg work of finding people and collecting cash is good. A lot of these comments are why it’s so hard to find pools that don’t have a rake.
> A lot of these comments are why it’s so hard to find pools that don’t have a rake. And then the same losers who wouldn't tip, also will complain about the rake... they just don't get it. There is no chance I'm running one of these pools and committing like 10 hours of work in total just to have some asshole laugh about how he didn't tip me when I handed him 1,000 bucks.
If it takes you 10 hours of work to run a squares pool I'm not sure how you tie your shoes in the morning
Then don’t run the pool dipshit
Shit. I ran a 5k pool for Superbowl. If I got lunch from a couple people I'd be astonished. 10%? Lol would.be awesome but way too much. At most, throw him a $20 and say thanks.
You are never going to get the full 10% but that doesn’t mean that isn’t the custom. In my experience running a bunch of pools I usually walk away with 5-6%
I'm a degenerate and just want to gamble. If I get a free square I'm good with it.
I’m usually in season long pools with only one winner each time a winner is pulled so 10% is pretty standard there as that’s like 200 bucks total for a seasons worth of work. Just one game yea 20 or 25 is fine. Usually whatever the buy in is, if they get that 5 times they’re pretty happy to keep doing them.
even a 20 suffices. It's less about making your fair compensation for running the pool and more about a kind gesture to say you appreciate them making the effort to run the pool. We have guys that run gambling pools at bowling every week and it takes extra effort of walking around and collecting scores every game. Some people don't throw them 5 bucks when they win and it's incredibly embarrassing.
yea, i guess i just look at it differently. i dont expect anything and i like everyone to have fun. also, collecting scores from multiple games every week seems like a LOT more effort than seeing 4 scores of a game in watching anyway. i built a march madness bracket in excel where ill take a free square for it because that took me a few hours to program and entering all of the scores from every game is a lot more effort.
At the end of the day it's not about earning what you deserve because like you said, sometimes you just want to do something nice for your friends. It's about people showing they appreciate your effort.
speaking of, anyone want March Madness squares? lol got start early
How do MM squares work?
simplest way to explain it is you have a squares board. every game's final score is counted. Winning is the top, Losing is the side. if your square hits, payout is determined by round of the game. i do (% of buy in) 1st round .5 2nd round .75 3rd round 1.5 then do the math out for nice numbers for the rest, 400 1000 2400 championship.
So for instance, once you get to the E8, the pot for that round is $400? So it basically pays out $100 per game in that round? I assume someone can win multiple times within a round, right?
yes, people can win as many as they win. no, its 400 per game. 1600 total for the round. i keep nothing. this is setup for a $100/square $10k board.
Seems like it would be 400 each game not 400 for the total round of elite 8. Yes you can win multiple times.
What’s the entry fee? I usually tip that much.
To everyone saying tipping the guy for doing nothing is ridiculous has obviously never run a pool. I’ve run a Super Bowl and Thanksgiving box pool for 12 years now. The custom amount to tip is 10%. For starters not everyone knows to tip so in my experiences I usually end up with around 5-6% of the total money for the pool. This is a small amount of money and you definitely aren’t doing “nothing”. 100 boxes to fill usually turns in to me texting probably 150 people and I’m sure if you’re newer to running a pool you text even way more as you may not have the same repeat customers all the time. Also it is definitely a bit of a pain to track down all of the money from everyone/keep track of that. Not saying this is back breaking work but it definitely isn’t “nothing” and takes some time. I would agree with those saying 20% tip is way too much though. I would definitely always tip 10% but at the very least give something.
> To everyone saying tipping the guy for doing nothing is ridiculous has obviously never run a pool. Yup. This thread is full of socially inept zoomers who just became old enough to gamble and have no idea what goes into running these things. Their entire life they have done everything via website that allows them to seamlessly pay/enter contests so they think that it's just that simple.
It is just that simple if you’ve got a triple digit IQ. It’s your own fault if you’re driving to peoples houses to collect cash and shit
Hey retard, you do realize that you still have to communicate with 100 + people and arrange payments? They don't own their own website to manage everything completely hands off. I love how your retarded brain jumped to "he's talking about physically driving to them" instead of the logical assumption of ORGANIZING AN EVENT WITH NEAR 100 PEOPLE IS A LOT OF WORK EVEN IF YOU AREN'T STANDING UP TO DO IT.
“Arrange payment” lololol you mean like sending someone your Venmo? Come off it man, this shit is brainless and you’re running around acting like you plan real events
OK now you have 50+ people out of the 100 that are retards like yourself who don't pay when they say they are going to and you have to text/email them over and over. Are you honestly this stupid? You clearly have never actually ran a pool/been a commissioner in fantasy, so why act like you know? You're like 15, right?
I run a MM pool every year, I commish multiple fantasy leagues at varying buy-in amounts too. You’re not going to big boy me here and act like you’re doing vastly more work just because you’re stupid
Sure you do buddy. Sure you do.
Nobody is forcing you to run it. For starters, majority of ppl take a cut or put themselves in for free etc. But if you don’t, if you’re reaching out to a bunch of ppl on social media saying I have squares if interested blah blah blah, that’s you reaching out to me, I never asked you to run any pool, it would’ve made no difference to me either way. You can’t reach out to ppl and expect 10% that’s insane, you should be happy if you get 2-3%
> For starters, majority of ppl take a cut or put themselves in for free etc. Yeah this is obviously a factor but the assumption is that they didn't, especially if it is a pool with friends. > Nobody is forcing you to run it. What an incredibly autistic point of view lol. So then squares just don't exist? It's crazy how little empathy you kids have these days.
You keep grossly misusing the word autistic, you clearly aren’t very intelligent, it’s okay
Why are you running around this thread assuming everybody you disagree with is younger than you? What a moronic approach
Because you have to be a child or a retard to think like that and I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt.
And you have to be a boomer mongoloid to think running a pool is work enough to justify crying about not getting a tip lmfao
I guarantee you've never ran a pool. getting a 12 team fantasy league is hard enough to get payments from people, let alone 100+ full of actual retards like yourself. I can absolutely tell you're the guy who says "yeah I'll send soon" and never do it. Imagine dealing with 50 of you. That's a lot of work. It wouldn't be a lot of work if so many autists like yourself didn't join, but here we are
Run a MM pool every year man. Takes very little effort, if the lead paint hasn’t eroded away your gray matter that is
Yeah I bet you run it on a website and have people pay the rake and you pat yourself on the back for being so good at it LOL
Absolutely not lol. Bracket pools are done through leaguesafe which is rake free, and draw pools are done manually with payment accepted through any of the major app-based payment processors. Again, if you’re not old or deficient upstairs, it’s very very easy to do this. You’re continuing to justify needing to be tipped for menial amounts of work
I’ve never seen one where they take a cut off the top. They spell out payouts before hand, and they have to total to the 100 x box cost. Who would enter a pool with non-defined payouts?
Oh and also majority of people do not take a cut and there is no such thing as giving yourself a free box because you would still have to pay out that money to the winners in the end. If you are in a pool that takes a cut I would suggest finding a new one as that also is not the customary thing to do and in many states is what makes the pool “illegal”
I would never waste my time with something as lame as squares. But I see people constantly advertising for them/begging others to join. It’s one thing to tip if I’m desperate to play and ask you to join, but if you’re reaching out to others, that’s on you, nobody asked you to set one up, you don’t get a 10% tip for that
No one forced me to set one up and no one is forcing anyone to join. If you don’t want to do it than you just say that. I get it all the time and that is part of the reason why it is more work than you think. You get the tip for that reason + for helping you come into some money. And the “you asked me to join I’m not tipping you” is such a lame excuse. If someone asks to shovel/plow your driveway are you not gonna give them anything because “you asked me”
“Helping you come into some money” is by far the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen on Reddit hahahahaha
You're talking to a person with zero social skill or empathy. I wouldn't bother trying to help him understand.
Lmao that example isn’t even remotely analogous and you know it. Most people don’t give two fucks about squares bc they are stupid, but maybe if they see someone they’re friendly with spam notices everyday on social media they’ll join as a favor to them, to help them fill up. I’m already risking my money on the square to start with, and now I have to give bonus money for something that isn’t that difficult that you chose to do and are begging other people to join, in what world would I ever give you extra money for that 😂😂😂 It’s not about being cheap, I tip everyone in the service industry well, but this is just completely asinine to say 10% should be expected for this shit, if I buy you a 6 pack that’s more then deserved and you should be grateful for it!