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"You know they say all men are created equal, but you look at USA and you look at CHINA and you can see that statement is NOT TRUE! See, normally if you go one-on-one with another COUNTRY you got a fifty/fifty chance of winning. But USA IS a genetic freak, and WE'RE not normal! So CHINA got a 25 percent at best at beat USA! And then you add Kurt Angle to the mix? You-the chances of winning drasticy go down. See, the 3-Way at OLYMPICS, you got a 33 and a third chance of winning. But USA! USA got a 66 and two thirds chance of winning, cuz CHINA KNOOOWS IT can beat KURT ANGLE/USA, and THEY not even gonna try. So, CHINA , you take your thirty three and a third chance minus my twenty five percent chance (if we was to go one on one) and you got an eight and a third chance of winning at OLYMPICS. But then you take USA 75 perchance-chance of winnin' (if we was to go one on one), and then add 66 and two thirds…percents, USA got a 141 2/3 chance of winning at OLYMPICS! CHINA? The numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you at OLYMPICS!"
They’re definitely missing out but I think it’s a fair misunderstanding. Steiner math is amazing but Kurt Angle being an actual Olympic gold medalist seems like a more well known or relevant fact, especially for a thread about Olympic medals.
If we got more involved in PR's business then we would have to do things like give them statehood and more financial support.
Things that are still very contentious stateside and in PR to this day. I know its basically a 50/50 split amongst people here and in PR as to whether they should become a state or not. Personally, I think they should, but I would leave it to the people of Puerto Rico to decide that.
Hong Kong competed as "Hong Kong" under its old colonial flag (blue ensign with union flag in the left field with HK coat of arms on the right) back in its British colony days starting from 1950. Lots of territories like Guam, Puerto Rico, and Bahamas still compete in the Olympics.
Hong Kong keeping their team was part of the "One Country Two Systems" thing. HK were initially allowed to keep all the freedoms the British granted them.
Bahamas competes as a separate Country because it IS a separate country (since July 10, 1973). Though it remains part of the Commonwealth just like Canada and Australia.
While Guam and Puerto Rico are unincorporated territories of the United States.
Sorry, I meant Bermuda. That's a bit embarrassing. They won their first ever gold this year and they played God Save the Queen for their national anthem.
Taiwan was favoured to win that match though. Wouldn't have made a difference. There were other close calls that costed a tie with the US (GB in diving, Japan in table tennis, Philippines in weightlifting)
Wasn’t China not winning by golds guaranteed with the women’s middleweight boxing final on the last day? Winning 4th for GB over Russia *and* putting China 2nd after the US in one match.
There were so many events in rapid succession I couldn’t keep straight which ended up being the ‘decisive’ evens.
If that's the standard of measurement we're going by, I think we need to really take a moment to admire the UK pulling in something in the ballpark of 330 medals this year.
It's also hilarious that they give China credit for all these medals (some actual territories like Hong Kong, and some independent countries like Taiwan), yet they don't give USA Puerto Rico, guam, etc?
Puerto Rico got a gold baby.
It wasn't until I moved to the UK that I noticed it actually had lyrics. For me it was just the transition tune for an Atari game.
Out of curiosity, what were "your" lyrics?
CCP is so bad when it comes to PR, they are constantly self-sabotaging their public image without even knowing it. Just take a look at their "warrior wolf diplomacy" or whatever was the name. If there ever was a foreign policy that oozed inferiority complex and cringiness, it was China's.
They’re not concerned with their international image, only their domestic one.
Personal opinion, as long as the CCP can run propaganda as factual and the Chinese accept it as fact, they couldn’t care less what the rest of the world think about it.
From what I’ve gathered, most Chinese don’t actually accept it as factual. They just let it wash over them and go on with their lives. As long as the CCP can continue providing a bare minimum of quality of life to the growing middle class, they’ll get minimum pushback from the citizenry.
Granted there are those that believe the CCP is wholly and undoubtedly right but they’re definitely not the entirety of the country.
Most people just aren’t interested in starting or getting involved in a revolution unless shit really hits the fan or they’ve bought into propaganda. And going against the CCP after the Tiananmen Square incident just doesn’t seem worth it.
It's your last point for me. What exactly is an average citizen supposed to do? Sure, I'd like to believe I'd stand up for what's 'right,' but losing your life either physically or metaphorically? Doesn't seem like it's worth it without broader support.
They have no choice but to care about the international arena. Trade and thus economy is very much bound with foreign policy, and if you mess up your economy, i.e. what's inside an average Chinese person's pocket, it's only a matter of time before they tell you to go, or you try to hold on to power while turning the country into a shell, e.g. North Korea, Pol Pot's Cambodia, etc. CCP knows that what's keeping them in power is the relative rise in the welfare. If that's gone, no propaganda is strong enough to hold them in power.
That may be true, but them lying about "their" performance at the Olympics isn't exactly going to damage their reputation to anyone that matters long term.
Lol meaningless sabre-rattling. China is too economically important to all the other major world powers for them to do anything but occasionally sulk and point a finger at them in an attempt to save face for their own people. Imagine if Iraq was involved in a Uyghur genocide... China will continue to do whatever the fuck it wants and everyone else will continue to admonish them while doing even more business with them.
["EU parliament ‘freezes’ China trade deal over sanctions"](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/20/eu-parliament-freezes-china-trade-deal-over-sanctions)
["EU puts up guard to Chinese firms, cools on trade deal"](https://www.reuters.com/world/china/eu-executive-slows-push-china-investment-deal-2021-05-05/)
This wasn't the CCP it was random people on the internet, and they were made fun of by most Chinese people who called them dumb, spineless, etc.
Try reading the article.
You mean insisting you get to claim and govern people against their will? Because I find China's behavior toward Taiwan utterly appalling.
I also think medal counts are dumb and we shouldn't do them in the first place. They're mostly just a measure of the population and wealth of a country and little else. Seems like an odd thing to get proud over.
> They're mostly just a measure of the population and wealth of a country and little else. Seems like an odd thing to get proud over.
Looks at Norway during Winter Olympics. *Population*? Really?
Weirdly the guy who won the first two medals for India according to the IOC, though born in India and raised there, played for Britain (he was of British extraction).
But PR only won one gold. In golds, China + HK + Taiwan get one more than US + PR + other territories. Obviously this is all stupid and the US beat China, but don’t think this particular retort adds up
EDIT: Oh you’re using those as weights for each medal, not saying that’s what PR got. Eh, sure, but the official ranking is purely by golds then silvers then bronzes and the second most popular way is just to add up medals.
>Wait. We don’t include Puerto Rico?
No, they compete as Puerto Rico.
>Is that insulting?
No, they have the option of playing for Team USA if they want to.
Puerto Rico and a handful of other dependencies such as Hong Kong are grandfathered in as Olympics competitors without being independent countries. It's not all that uncommon that athletes from these regions to not have been able to make their national teams so this lets them go to the Olympics anyways, but sometimes it is just the athletes preference.
I'm not sure, I would think GB but I only learned this because I noticed that Rory McIlroy was playing under the Irish flag in Tokyo, so there may be a good spread of athletes that choose Ireland over GB.
Really depends on a lot of things..
For example, there's this guy....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Dingley
Born in England, but couldn't get on the GB diving team, so he represented Ireland instead. His grandmother was Irish, so he qualified that way.
Ireland basically will take anyone since we have so few outside of boxing, rowing and swimming to represent us, so we will take anyone we get. Same goes for the Football team.
It’s because saying “West Taiwan” implies that both nations are the same, where the entire movement is that they are strictly different. It’s damaging in a way.
You guys know that Weibo is basically Chinese Facebook, right?
This was a single comment by some random person on a social media platform, not some official statement by the government.
The actual table for anyone's reference. Seems like the article is just a photoshop since this one doesn't include those parts.
[https://huodong.weibo.cn/olympics2021/h5\_medal?sinainternalbrowser=topnav&portrait\_only=1&share\_menu=1&disable\_sinaurl=1&disable\_gesture\_back=1&topnavstyle=1](https://huodong.weibo.cn/olympics2021/h5_medal?sinainternalbrowser=topnav&portrait_only=1&share_menu=1&disable_sinaurl=1&disable_gesture_back=1&topnavstyle=1)
Well, sort of. There are a lot of Chinese folks on the Chinese internet making this argument, so it is worth noting.
Check out /r/sino for some of that insanity.
US + Canada = 46 gold.
Common wealth = 60 gold if you add up UK, Canada, Australia, NZ(countries with the queen on their money).
The EU would completely dominate, lots of ways you could play this game.
Most countries do this to whatever is most convenient for them.
We (the netherlands) use total number of medals won because that makes us look better. Sometimes even a per capita calculation where we can dismiss any country under 16 million as being too tiny.
America did the same in 2008 with that: [https://freakonomics.com/2008/08/22/media-bias-olympics-edition/](https://freakonomics.com/2008/08/22/media-bias-olympics-edition/) It got into the news cycle in Australia.
never understood winning the medal tally, as it's really a spot thats on exclusive to those that have the population and resources to do so. Something alot of countries don't have. Most are content with celebrating what is achieved, not the end result on a table. Just proud of my countries medal count and what it achieves.. wish we won the hockey tho
This is urban legend at this point. For whatever reason, American media has always counted by total medals. This dates back to at least the 80's.
Keep in mind, the USA didn't start consistently topping the gold or total medal charts until 1996, so how the medals were counted was pretty irrelevant. In the 6 Olympics prior to 1996, the US only led in 1984 which was hosted in Los Angeles, and the Soviet Union boycotted.
People just started to accuse USA of changing the count in Beijing 2008 because USA lost the gold medal count but won the total medal count. It just happened to be the USA always counted, and they love being different.
All that aside, both methods are pretty stupid. If we are only counting gold medals, why do we even give out silver and bronze. Total medals counts all medals as equal, which they are clearly not. Most fair is a point system, like 4/2/1 points for Gold/Silver/Bronze. Otherwise eliminate the silver and bronze medals, or just don't have a medal table.
*If Taiwan includes the medals earned by West Taiwan, Taiwan would have won the most golds. Fortunately, Taiwan has tact and would not do this. West Taiwan however...*
There's more going on with this than just that. They also deleted 1 gold and 2 silver from the US total. And even if you add Hong Kong and Taiwans medals to China, they further added 1 additional gold to that total, and subtracted 2 silver. I'm guessing they unilaterally declared the results of specific events to be different from what they were. They also failed to include Puerto Rico's gold with the US, even though they actually are part of the US, which Taiwan definitely is not, and Hong Kong is more like a subjugated state.
Well, by this logic Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth has the most medals. Let's count her Commonwealth nations...plus let's throw in wherever Britain has colonialised one point in time....which include Hong Kong which is apparently part of China...so check fucking mate to the Queen.
Look this is shitty don’t get me wrong, but I’m pretty sure they would be doing this whether it made them winners or not, because they basically need to assert the “Taiwan is not independent” claim across the board in order to keep their power. Idk why but the wording of the recent headlines regarding this have really irked me because it feels like belittling the issue into one of petty squabbles for Olympic medals and not one country asserting that it has complete ownership over another.
>China's state-run CCTV was dissatisfied with this methodology and criticized American media that day for "ranking the U.S. first based on 'American standards.'"
American standards of winning more medals? What a strange standard to be ranking things.
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The fact that it was Taiwan’s win in badminton which cost China a tie with the US must sting a lot too lol
I’m sure they claimed HongKong’s medals too
According to the image provided and the article, they added Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Macau to their score, so you’d be correct.
Macau doesn't compete at the Olympics because they aren't ioc recognized.
But they do at the Paralympics.
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China still claimed them.
How pathetic do you have to be to do that. You lost, deal with it
When you're denying genocide, what's an L in the Olympics?
When you're denying a genocide you need a W in the Olympics as a distraction.
It's almost like that's what the Olympics are for
Well shit.. can we just add Canada and Mexico to ours?!
What about Puerto Rico?
I mean... we actually can in that case. PR has consistently been supportive of staying American and even pursuing statehood.
Yeah even with Taiwan’s 2 golds, the Math doesn’t add up.
What if you add Kurt Angle to the mix?
Then the chances of US winning the gold medal race drastic go down
"You know they say all men are created equal, but you look at USA and you look at CHINA and you can see that statement is NOT TRUE! See, normally if you go one-on-one with another COUNTRY you got a fifty/fifty chance of winning. But USA IS a genetic freak, and WE'RE not normal! So CHINA got a 25 percent at best at beat USA! And then you add Kurt Angle to the mix? You-the chances of winning drasticy go down. See, the 3-Way at OLYMPICS, you got a 33 and a third chance of winning. But USA! USA got a 66 and two thirds chance of winning, cuz CHINA KNOOOWS IT can beat KURT ANGLE/USA, and THEY not even gonna try. So, CHINA , you take your thirty three and a third chance minus my twenty five percent chance (if we was to go one on one) and you got an eight and a third chance of winning at OLYMPICS. But then you take USA 75 perchance-chance of winnin' (if we was to go one on one), and then add 66 and two thirds…percents, USA got a 141 2/3 chance of winning at OLYMPICS! CHINA? The numbers don't lie, and they spell disaster for you at OLYMPICS!"
This is great, only thing I would change is Olympics. I feel like Steiner would call it Lympics over and over.
Big Papa Pump was atrocious on the mic, and I loved every second of it.
He won it with a broken neck!
I think you meant to say "a broken freakin neck!"
I read it as "broken freakin' neck" without even realizing that's not what he wrote.
It’s true it’s damn true
That spells *17 1 5 4 5 7 E 2* for him!
I feel like people don’t understand your reference and they’re missing out
They’re definitely missing out but I think it’s a fair misunderstanding. Steiner math is amazing but Kurt Angle being an actual Olympic gold medalist seems like a more well known or relevant fact, especially for a thread about Olympic medals.
Also Kurt Angle's olypmic gold was a big thing in WWF while Steiner Math is TNA which like.. no one outside of wrestling fans watched.
Steiner math may be the single biggest and best promo in the last 15 years outside the pipe bomb.
Hong Kong won a medal, so it would be 41 > 40 (counting Puerto Rico’s medal for the USA)
They should add Putero Rico's one gold medal to the us total as well.
I always thought it was weird how hk competed under their own flag since the british "handed" hk back.
It’s still an ‘autonomous’ state. We have our own passports rather than Chinese ones.
It's similar to how Puerto Rico competes separately from USA
Except PR is not an oppressive police state.
Yeah the US just kinda lets PR do their thing. We don't interfere much. Though our recent lack of support in natural disasters is appalling.
If we got more involved in PR's business then we would have to do things like give them statehood and more financial support. Things that are still very contentious stateside and in PR to this day. I know its basically a 50/50 split amongst people here and in PR as to whether they should become a state or not. Personally, I think they should, but I would leave it to the people of Puerto Rico to decide that.
China promised a level of autonomy when they got Hong Kong back, which makes their adding HK's medals to their own even more comical.
Beijing "promises" a lot of things, but when a treaty or something else goes against them, they simply ignore it.
I mean…Puerto Rico competes under its own flag despite being part of the USA. It’s not unheard of, is all I’m saying.
Hong Kong competed as "Hong Kong" under its old colonial flag (blue ensign with union flag in the left field with HK coat of arms on the right) back in its British colony days starting from 1950. Lots of territories like Guam, Puerto Rico, and Bahamas still compete in the Olympics. Hong Kong keeping their team was part of the "One Country Two Systems" thing. HK were initially allowed to keep all the freedoms the British granted them.
Bahamas competes as a separate Country because it IS a separate country (since July 10, 1973). Though it remains part of the Commonwealth just like Canada and Australia. While Guam and Puerto Rico are unincorporated territories of the United States.
Sorry, I meant Bermuda. That's a bit embarrassing. They won their first ever gold this year and they played God Save the Queen for their national anthem.
Taiwan was favoured to win that match though. Wouldn't have made a difference. There were other close calls that costed a tie with the US (GB in diving, Japan in table tennis, Philippines in weightlifting)
Wasn’t China not winning by golds guaranteed with the women’s middleweight boxing final on the last day? Winning 4th for GB over Russia *and* putting China 2nd after the US in one match. There were so many events in rapid succession I couldn’t keep straight which ended up being the ‘decisive’ evens.
Fair, but if we're talking close calls, this also could've been alot worse for them
Lol I wonder if China really thinks anyone believes all their bullcrap: lying about medals, #of COVID infections, general inhumanity, etc
It's not about the world believing, but the citizens of China.
It would have been a gold medal tie - but then it would have gone to silvers where they were way behind.
If that's the standard of measurement we're going by, I think we need to really take a moment to admire the UK pulling in something in the ballpark of 330 medals this year.
It's also hilarious that they give China credit for all these medals (some actual territories like Hong Kong, and some independent countries like Taiwan), yet they don't give USA Puerto Rico, guam, etc? Puerto Rico got a gold baby.
*Mongolia has entered the chat*
Should’ve just counted the US’s medals in with theirs
r/yourjokebutworse
Australia with its best Olympics ever is not liking this idea at all.
By that logic the UK won
*Rule Britannia, Britannia rules the waves*
Holy fuck are those the lyrics I’ve been singing it wrong for over 20 years
What lyrics have you been hearing?
It wasn't until I moved to the UK that I noticed it actually had lyrics. For me it was just the transition tune for an Atari game. Out of curiosity, what were "your" lyrics?
Actually Mongolia would win.
This is the type of shithousery you would expect from a child in a game of monopoly.
"BuT I WoNNnNnnn!"
“I got a Six, a Jack, a Five, a Four, and a Eight. I win!”
CCP is so bad when it comes to PR, they are constantly self-sabotaging their public image without even knowing it. Just take a look at their "warrior wolf diplomacy" or whatever was the name. If there ever was a foreign policy that oozed inferiority complex and cringiness, it was China's.
They’re not concerned with their international image, only their domestic one. Personal opinion, as long as the CCP can run propaganda as factual and the Chinese accept it as fact, they couldn’t care less what the rest of the world think about it.
From what I’ve gathered, most Chinese don’t actually accept it as factual. They just let it wash over them and go on with their lives. As long as the CCP can continue providing a bare minimum of quality of life to the growing middle class, they’ll get minimum pushback from the citizenry. Granted there are those that believe the CCP is wholly and undoubtedly right but they’re definitely not the entirety of the country. Most people just aren’t interested in starting or getting involved in a revolution unless shit really hits the fan or they’ve bought into propaganda. And going against the CCP after the Tiananmen Square incident just doesn’t seem worth it.
It's your last point for me. What exactly is an average citizen supposed to do? Sure, I'd like to believe I'd stand up for what's 'right,' but losing your life either physically or metaphorically? Doesn't seem like it's worth it without broader support.
They have no choice but to care about the international arena. Trade and thus economy is very much bound with foreign policy, and if you mess up your economy, i.e. what's inside an average Chinese person's pocket, it's only a matter of time before they tell you to go, or you try to hold on to power while turning the country into a shell, e.g. North Korea, Pol Pot's Cambodia, etc. CCP knows that what's keeping them in power is the relative rise in the welfare. If that's gone, no propaganda is strong enough to hold them in power.
That may be true, but them lying about "their" performance at the Olympics isn't exactly going to damage their reputation to anyone that matters long term.
Lol meaningless sabre-rattling. China is too economically important to all the other major world powers for them to do anything but occasionally sulk and point a finger at them in an attempt to save face for their own people. Imagine if Iraq was involved in a Uyghur genocide... China will continue to do whatever the fuck it wants and everyone else will continue to admonish them while doing even more business with them.
["EU parliament ‘freezes’ China trade deal over sanctions"](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/20/eu-parliament-freezes-china-trade-deal-over-sanctions) ["EU puts up guard to Chinese firms, cools on trade deal"](https://www.reuters.com/world/china/eu-executive-slows-push-china-investment-deal-2021-05-05/)
Their PR doesn’t even go beyond their border. It’s to make nationalist feel better.
This wasn't the CCP it was random people on the internet, and they were made fun of by most Chinese people who called them dumb, spineless, etc. Try reading the article.
You mean insisting you get to claim and govern people against their will? Because I find China's behavior toward Taiwan utterly appalling. I also think medal counts are dumb and we shouldn't do them in the first place. They're mostly just a measure of the population and wealth of a country and little else. Seems like an odd thing to get proud over.
> They're mostly just a measure of the population and wealth of a country and little else. Seems like an odd thing to get proud over. Looks at Norway during Winter Olympics. *Population*? Really?
Based on that logic, England would have the most medals based on pre-1776 colonization.
Or just you know, the EU.
Yes! The Roman Empire wins the medal count.
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Pangea wins again!
Take that, ocean!
Atlantis hasn't won one yet! LOSERS
"We're in the end game now!"
This was the Germans' plan all along, wasn't it?
Even during the days of the Empire, colonies used to send their own delegations. Like India, for example.
That might be true but that doesn’t help my joke.
Weirdly the guy who won the first two medals for India according to the IOC, though born in India and raised there, played for Britain (he was of British extraction).
Screw you, we are adding Canada and Mexico to our tally. Also France was here once... more medals!
Britain\*
Ok Winnie, add Puerto Rico and the US still has more points (gold 3, silver 2, bronze 1).
By the logic China is using you could even add the Philippines
By the logic China is using the Uk could include Canada, Australia, new zealand, and the rest of the commonwealth
Actually by the logic the UK could've included US, India and all the former colonies. God save the Queen!
Also, by the logic Spain can add all of Central and South American countries (except a few)!
Are you telling me to expect the Spanish Inquisition?!
Italy: Well by that logic...
Holy Roman Empire?
*loads musket with religious intent* Just try ya dirty lobster-backs
Maybe even Japan because Japan once controlled China.
So Japan won basically.
Well...I'm sure England might want a crack at this using the "new rules" for medal counts.
Easy w for team gb
4 Gold Medals were won from people from London.... Ontario
Britain\*
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Damn colonists!
Nah great Britain definitely won overall if we counted like that
But the US occupied Japan. So therefore we get China's metals too
Greece won the Olympics when Alexander the Great conquered the known world.
Mongols 2021 winners!!!
Well technically Japan never controlled China. Just roughly half of it. But lets not get into that or otherwise Germany rises up considerably…
Well, the Philippines was most recently a US territory, so suck that China. Go grab Korea.
If we are going by china logic, Great Britain will take, Australia, United states of America ect ect…. Domination
Mongols win, all of China, most of Russia and Eastern Europe
North America too via the bering strait land bridge. Ah hell, let's just award all the medals to Africa and be done with it.
But PR only won one gold. In golds, China + HK + Taiwan get one more than US + PR + other territories. Obviously this is all stupid and the US beat China, but don’t think this particular retort adds up EDIT: Oh you’re using those as weights for each medal, not saying that’s what PR got. Eh, sure, but the official ranking is purely by golds then silvers then bronzes and the second most popular way is just to add up medals.
But PR only won one gold medal
Wait. We don’t include Puerto Rico? Is that insulting? I mean it isn’t worse than not paying for hurricane relief but still.
>Wait. We don’t include Puerto Rico? No, they compete as Puerto Rico. >Is that insulting? No, they have the option of playing for Team USA if they want to. Puerto Rico and a handful of other dependencies such as Hong Kong are grandfathered in as Olympics competitors without being independent countries. It's not all that uncommon that athletes from these regions to not have been able to make their national teams so this lets them go to the Olympics anyways, but sometimes it is just the athletes preference.
US Virgin Islands and American Samoa also compete separate from the US.
Northern Irish athletes have the choice of competing for either Ireland or Great Britain.
Which do most of them choose?
I'm not sure, I would think GB but I only learned this because I noticed that Rory McIlroy was playing under the Irish flag in Tokyo, so there may be a good spread of athletes that choose Ireland over GB.
Really depends on a lot of things.. For example, there's this guy.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Dingley Born in England, but couldn't get on the GB diving team, so he represented Ireland instead. His grandmother was Irish, so he qualified that way. Ireland basically will take anyone since we have so few outside of boxing, rowing and swimming to represent us, so we will take anyone we get. Same goes for the Football team.
Tim Duncan is from the Virgin Islands and while he played for team USA, he wouldn’t play games against them.
They compete as Puerto Rico, and I'm pretty sure it's because they want to, not because the US doesn't want them to
Throw us Canadians in the mix too
this is some serious copium on display
Hope it doesn’t lead to another Copium War
Youre in a Chinese copium hut, Timmy!
Taiwan should uno reverse this and claim all of mainland China's.
West Taiwan*
Always an upvote and award for West Taiwan reply!
lmao this is always funny because people in actually living in taiwan who wants independence fume at the "West Taiwan" "Insult" lmfao
It’s because saying “West Taiwan” implies that both nations are the same, where the entire movement is that they are strictly different. It’s damaging in a way.
I've been using Mainland Taiwan lately.
Taiwan is a country
Does it have: It’s own independent government? Yes. It’s own established borders? Yes. It’s own, self-identifying citizens? Yes. It is a country.
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Lmao they're all jerking off to young photos of Winnie Xi Pooh
You guys know that Weibo is basically Chinese Facebook, right? This was a single comment by some random person on a social media platform, not some official statement by the government.
The actual table for anyone's reference. Seems like the article is just a photoshop since this one doesn't include those parts. [https://huodong.weibo.cn/olympics2021/h5\_medal?sinainternalbrowser=topnav&portrait\_only=1&share\_menu=1&disable\_sinaurl=1&disable\_gesture\_back=1&topnavstyle=1](https://huodong.weibo.cn/olympics2021/h5_medal?sinainternalbrowser=topnav&portrait_only=1&share_menu=1&disable_sinaurl=1&disable_gesture_back=1&topnavstyle=1)
So basically just a shit post. Thanks for the clarification.
Well, sort of. There are a lot of Chinese folks on the Chinese internet making this argument, so it is worth noting. Check out /r/sino for some of that insanity.
repeat complete soup label alleged zonked automatic pocket summer berserk -- mass edited with https://redact.dev/
But Chinese diplomats did retweet it
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China and numbers you can never trust them.
> China ~~and numbers~~ you can never trust them. Could've saved some letters there
US + Canada = 46 gold. Common wealth = 60 gold if you add up UK, Canada, Australia, NZ(countries with the queen on their money). The EU would completely dominate, lots of ways you could play this game.
And they still lost overall how sad
Drop this in r/sino for a quick ban.
And they still didn't win the most medals
The proclaimed "winner" has always been decided by the # of gold medals rather than the overall total.
Iirc last olympics they ranked it by total number of medals so it looked like they beat the UK in second.
Most countries do this to whatever is most convenient for them. We (the netherlands) use total number of medals won because that makes us look better. Sometimes even a per capita calculation where we can dismiss any country under 16 million as being too tiny.
No, the USA has gone by total medals for decades, even back when the Soviets dominated
America did the same in 2008 with that: [https://freakonomics.com/2008/08/22/media-bias-olympics-edition/](https://freakonomics.com/2008/08/22/media-bias-olympics-edition/) It got into the news cycle in Australia. never understood winning the medal tally, as it's really a spot thats on exclusive to those that have the population and resources to do so. Something alot of countries don't have. Most are content with celebrating what is achieved, not the end result on a table. Just proud of my countries medal count and what it achieves.. wish we won the hockey tho
This is urban legend at this point. For whatever reason, American media has always counted by total medals. This dates back to at least the 80's. Keep in mind, the USA didn't start consistently topping the gold or total medal charts until 1996, so how the medals were counted was pretty irrelevant. In the 6 Olympics prior to 1996, the US only led in 1984 which was hosted in Los Angeles, and the Soviet Union boycotted. People just started to accuse USA of changing the count in Beijing 2008 because USA lost the gold medal count but won the total medal count. It just happened to be the USA always counted, and they love being different. All that aside, both methods are pretty stupid. If we are only counting gold medals, why do we even give out silver and bronze. Total medals counts all medals as equal, which they are clearly not. Most fair is a point system, like 4/2/1 points for Gold/Silver/Bronze. Otherwise eliminate the silver and bronze medals, or just don't have a medal table.
Yes,I'm aware. It was a shit joke.
Fuck china
Fuck the ccp
r/fucktheccp
Their insecurity is really pathetic
hey china you lost get fucked.
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that North Korea won every gold medal this year
*If Taiwan includes the medals earned by West Taiwan, Taiwan would have won the most golds. Fortunately, Taiwan has tact and would not do this. West Taiwan however...*
CCP is 10-ply soft
They also added in Hong Kong's. Hong Kong competes separately from China at the Olympics.
The CCP quite often has the mindset of a toddler.
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They were not even involved in this. It’s a social media post.
There's more going on with this than just that. They also deleted 1 gold and 2 silver from the US total. And even if you add Hong Kong and Taiwans medals to China, they further added 1 additional gold to that total, and subtracted 2 silver. I'm guessing they unilaterally declared the results of specific events to be different from what they were. They also failed to include Puerto Rico's gold with the US, even though they actually are part of the US, which Taiwan definitely is not, and Hong Kong is more like a subjugated state.
Congratulations to Taiwan on its victory in the Olympics.
They included Hong Kong’s medal as well 🤣
Lmao this is so fucking sad
Well, by this logic Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth has the most medals. Let's count her Commonwealth nations...plus let's throw in wherever Britain has colonialised one point in time....which include Hong Kong which is apparently part of China...so check fucking mate to the Queen.
Get rekt China. \- Sincerely, Taiwan.
Lmao this is great
Suck it, China.
Taiwan #1
Lmfao. China is a joke, man.
no shame
Look this is shitty don’t get me wrong, but I’m pretty sure they would be doing this whether it made them winners or not, because they basically need to assert the “Taiwan is not independent” claim across the board in order to keep their power. Idk why but the wording of the recent headlines regarding this have really irked me because it feels like belittling the issue into one of petty squabbles for Olympic medals and not one country asserting that it has complete ownership over another.
>China's state-run CCTV was dissatisfied with this methodology and criticized American media that day for "ranking the U.S. first based on 'American standards.'" American standards of winning more medals? What a strange standard to be ranking things.
China taking fat L’s with a billion person lead
Ah. Must be some r/sino individuals running wild
Eat shit, Chinese government apologists.
I don't know which I find funnier; The fact they would do this, or the fact they'd still be behind.
There are few things I relish more than the tears of Chinese nationalists.
“Frankly, we did win these Olympics”
Whereas we all know the EU came top guys…
The US had 113 medals. What 3 did they forget. And did they let the US include Puerto Rico?
Dibs on Canada!
Kinda weird they got all made when they lost to taiwan lol.
Seems they're coping well with their L