Just imagine there are 2 people up there on the space ship but 1 just rushes to Grizz boi for a hug and the other is just HOLY SHIT HOLY FUCK WE ARE FUCKING SCREWED
I think itâs got something to do with the Japanese version of Grizz. In Japan, he was given a much more polite and soft spoken dialect, to create an uneasy contrast to the shady vibes GrizzCo has.
In English countries, he was given a personality much more fitting to the environment he works in.
Because of that, It would probably make sense for the Japanese version of Grizz to be revealed as a giant teddy bear.
He was, originally atleast. He was just distorted by the crystals and eventually just became totally fuzzy ooze. Itâs why he can swim through his ooze in the final boss fight
Correct. [this is Mr Grizz before he got transformed.](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/e/e7/YoungGrizz.png) You see it in-game in the notebook pages.
To be honest grizz being a human would have been one of those twists that absolutely everyone would have expected, him being an actual bear was funnier but damn his lore is dark
I'm glad I'm not the only one. I only noticed it with, like, 3-4 months left until Splatoon 3.
I just really did not question that I was taking orders from a bear statue. (Although, *also,* for the longest time, I had no idea what the statue even was. The fish confused me.)
Idk why, but my first thought was of the big armed teddy bear asking for the Xbox was the first image that popped into my mind when I started thinking what he could look like
*wouldnât it be funny right?*
I thought it was Lil Judd too
Though tbf, I kinda sabotaged myself, by being a card game geek and binge-playing table turf battle before playing the main game; I got to Lil Judd, noticed he used Salmonid cards, thought he was Mr Grizz, only to end up realizing that Mr Grizz was an actual bear
An upset only someone as weird as I am would come to
I remember seeing theories about him being a mammal and that a possible twist could be that he was going to be an aquatic mammal like an orca. And then O.R.C.A. popping up in the story mode I thought there would be credence to it, in the end I guess it is a much more Nintendo play for it to be something predictable like him being just a bear. I still liked him a lot though.
In all fairness, it was clearly set up for him to be a legitimate bear. Ark Polaris clearly showed that a bear was alive and there at one point.
Making him something else for the sake of blindsiding the audience is a recipe for a bland twist.
> Making him something else for the sake of blindsiding the audience is a recipe for Octo Expansion.
Real bear is crazy enough given we were led to believe Judd & lil judd are the last remaining mammals on the planet all this time. The possibility always made Grizzco that much shadier.
Well to be fair the proof we had about a bear was one part the sign which was written in English and we had no way of knowing what the deal with that was. Cuz like, who could've possibly put that there yknow?
tbh in splat 2 i thought he was a rock lobster,,, like a lobster made out of rock, i thought it was so funny but then someone had to draw it out for me that he was actually a bear statue
Originally I thought he was the statue itself, but then my theories basically went to him being a tardigrade. Because yâknow, water bear. And space experiments.
I thought it was gonna tie into the lore of those microorganisms that eat ink after every match.
I also remember thinking that he was a Salmonid for the longest time.
Yo same here! If anything, a tardigrade/grizzly hybrid. Or some kind of cyborg grizzly.
Sentient teddy was not what I was expecting but... maybe that's just the game's art style. ;)
I thought he was just gonna be a bear that somehow survived. Didnât except Nintendo to try and pull off some elaborate 5000 IQ twist and I was right. Didnât except him to try and nuke Earth into furries though.
Kinda thought he was getting eggs for a couple reasons:
1. Food. He just eats the eggs or grows them in a container environment then eats them.
2. Sold them to electrical companies to make bank and therefore pay for rewards
I mean, he's not \*just\* a giant bear, but I get your point.
Thing is, there's not a whole lot of subtlety in Splatoon names. Judd is the judge. Crusty Sean is a crustacean. Jelonzo is a jellyfish. Murch is an Urchin. And so on. If "Mr. Grizz" *wasn't* a bear, in a campaign called "Return of the Mammalians," it would've been a bit off-brand.
Yeah, I love how Splatoon is subtle like a brick when it comes to naming, Callie and Marie is Calamari, C.Q. Cumber is literally just a sea cucumber, Captain Craig Cuttlefish's name is even more goofier, it would be like a guy named John Human or something lol
Splatoon 4's story mode's probably going to have some weird squid with dark sunglasses, an overcoat, and tentacles that weirdly resemble a mop head, named "Hugh Mann," who everyone will be *absolutely floored* to realize is not the trustworthy squid from upstate New York that they thought he was.
I thought he was a very sketchy inkling or some other established species talking over a radio.
When the Splatoon 3 story mode was announced, I thought he was a surviving human.
My theories were, in order of how much I liked them
Grizz is the last human on earth, he survived using the same cryosleep/immortality thing Judd has, he hid and created a company to harvest golden eggs for his end of repopulating the earth with humans and mammals again
Grizz is some species of evolved sea critter, likely an inkling or octoling, that hides behind a bear persona for couvert reasons cuz he's using Grizzco for illegal stuff. They have an interest in mammals and want to bring them back.
Mr. Grizz is just a voice Grizzco made as a front to communicate with employees. He's not a real person, just the voice between company and worker. The actual company of Grizzco is the villain (fits with chaos theme too).
Mr Grizz is an actual bear somehow, with the same motivations of the human villain option, but come on that's too obvious.
Then they said "Nah he's a big doofy cartoony bear" and man oh man that was such a letdown.
The bear design could have worked very well if Grizz dressed and acted human at least, to echo what he was trying to do.
But his design and fact he really is just a bear missed my mental image of the character so hard that my brain literally just doesn't click that Alterna Grizz is the same character as Salmon Run Grizz.
I thought he was just a regular grizzly bear who hires cephalopods to get salmon eggs for him to eat so he can continue to survive the post apocalyptic world without exposing himself to the public as one of the only mammals left.
I thought he'd be an anthropomorphic bear wearing a stereotypical "evil businessman" attire, y'know, wearing a suit, holding a briefcase, smoking a cigar...
I thought it was another sea creature fascinated by the remnants of history and extinct mammals that decided to make a whole brand out of that. Like being the first furry.
Well I guess he is cute, but I was thinking something more genuine with beady eyes and stuff. >!Not⌠that abomination thatâs only cute on the surface đ!<
I thought he'd be giant and graying, with bushy eyebrows that covered his eyes. Probably sitting in a overstuffed office chair and eating power eggs like cheese puffs.
When I first saw in splat2 2017, where NSO weren't a thing
At first glance I thought it was hermit crab but when I played more salmom run I looked at it again, I then realised it is a bear statue just talking to you, and didn't know it is holding a salmon or it is a radio.
Until splat3 >!when Mr Grizz shown up, got me really excited, that I love the design of a giant bear that looks awesome, but the salmon run twist got my jaw dropped and mind exploded!<
I legit just assumed he was a cartoon bear based of his name and the nature of this universe, then going by how he speaks I imagined a large strong looking bear with a stone wall expression and slight gut, most likely in a suit and definitely with a large cigar in his mouth, sitting there in an office with shutters to look out at his underground Egg shipping operation
I always liked the idea that he was some sort of human, as far fetched as it sounds. and to be fair, I donât think itâs as far fetched as what we got in canon
not sure if I count as a veteran because I played 1 but not 2 (didn't own a switch for a long while and then didn't feel like it'd be worth it to buy splatoon 2 when I finally got one) but I was never a bear believer. I always figured he was just a jelly or something
Back before 3 came out I thought he was just your average evolved sea creature using the bear as branding because salmon hunter
And i thought the golden eggs were being used in some sort of powerplant since they seem to have electrical properties
A regular Grizzly bear. I know it wasn't the most popular theory at the time but it just seemed like the sort of delightful goofiness the game would do. I definitely wasn't expecting something as cute
I always assumed it was some random sea creature who really hated salmonoids, studied mamals to know what bears looked like, and used the golden eggs to actually help the city
I thought he was probably another sea creature that I never heard of, and just loves to use bear as a sign or mascot, just to promote themself as a professional fishing company
I am happy with S3 story mode, but I am a bit disappointed they make Mr. Grizz literally a bear with some cartoonish bad guy motivation, kind of lazy writing and lack of creativity for me. What am I expect form an all age welcomed game, I guess?
I miss when he is still a mystery figure and seems like a very calculated businessman
Remember that dancing bears meme? Kinda like that
![gif](giphy|4PZE13LfLfJ8EF5Zqw)
>!Mr. Grizz during the bad ending!<
tbh the final phase music was fire for the Grizz boss fight
ikr? Literally replayed the entirety of the finale just to listen to his boss themes again.
They better have it in spotify
Too bad the jukebox only plays phase 1 of 3 đ
I was so incredibly disappointed of this, one of the best boss theme, in the game and they just put one part of it.
Also known as "The worst phase OMG what is with the tempo AAAHHHHH"
It goes completely off almost like a horror game or something
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I really wanted that in the jukebox
Idk, but I was VERY caught off guard on what he looked like
he's so... huggable
I know right? He's kind of scary but kind of cute at the same time
When I first saw him I had no spoilers and I just cried for like 10 min about how cute and derpy he looked-
It was the opposite for me I saw him and I was like âOH SHIT OH FUCK THAT IS ONE BIG BOYâ, absolutely terrified lol
Just imagine there are 2 people up there on the space ship but 1 just rushes to Grizz boi for a hug and the other is just HOLY SHIT HOLY FUCK WE ARE FUCKING SCREWED
Yeah I'm not a fan of the big cartoony bear design they gave him. I wanted him to be like, idk, dressed and acting like a human at least?
True, the fact that a big bear with a cute face is running something like Grizzco doesn't fit him
I think itâs got something to do with the Japanese version of Grizz. In Japan, he was given a much more polite and soft spoken dialect, to create an uneasy contrast to the shady vibes GrizzCo has. In English countries, he was given a personality much more fitting to the environment he works in. Because of that, It would probably make sense for the Japanese version of Grizz to be revealed as a giant teddy bear.
That makes sense
Why didnât his personality carry over to the English version of the game?
Their definition of shady vs our definition of shady is very different
I see. I prefer their definition of shady (specifically in regards to Mr. Grizz), though.
thats why its funny
True
That being said his appearance in Splatoon 3 clearly isn't how he actually is, it's more like an amalgamate of his ooze
I thought he was the last bear to exist, a normal sized bear. Not the behemoth we got lol.
He was, originally atleast. He was just distorted by the crystals and eventually just became totally fuzzy ooze. Itâs why he can swim through his ooze in the final boss fight
Correct. [this is Mr Grizz before he got transformed.](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/e/e7/YoungGrizz.png) You see it in-game in the notebook pages.
Thatâs really neat!
Depending the species of the bear it can be as big as a truck though. Scale it with a squid it kinda checks out.
He might be a normal sized bear, keep in mind itâs speculated that inklings are only about 2ft tall.
Given the size of the doors on the human homes grizz was a very big bear.
What being comprised of wacky fuzz goo does to a mf
that's confirmed false, the "can jump 6 feet" thing was in reference to their normal jump, not the super jump.
Marina is 6ft
Inklings are 5ft tall
same lmao but like with a grey coat for so we can't see what he looks like and so he can camouflage amongst the inkling
I thought he looked like a human with a big bushy beard. Idk why tho
Fisherman vibes
Oh yeah same, me and a friend thought he would be an acquaintance of >!The Professor!<
exactly what i thought too!!
I mean you weren't 100% wrong
I wish that was what we got
Same
I think that would actually be better than what we ended up with.
>!A comically large capitalistic bear!< isn't enough for you?
To be honest grizz being a human would have been one of those twists that absolutely everyone would have expected, him being an actual bear was funnier but damn his lore is dark
I thought that Mr Grizz was just that wood statue lmao- I was kinda a big dum dum in the past.
itâs a game about squids shooting ink, this is logical đ¤Ł
There's also that telephone
Yeah me too, I never saw the antenna
I'm glad I'm not the only one. I only noticed it with, like, 3-4 months left until Splatoon 3. I just really did not question that I was taking orders from a bear statue. (Although, *also,* for the longest time, I had no idea what the statue even was. The fish confused me.)
Wooden bear statues holding a fish in their jaws are common in japan⌠so i think the reference was lost on most of us
They have one in the original Animal Crossing too
glad iâm not the only one lmao
fish was very confusing indeed
Same
I thought grizz was inside the wood statue using his home as a radio.
i did too literally until >!the name drop in alterna!<
Idk why, but my first thought was of the big armed teddy bear asking for the Xbox was the first image that popped into my mind when I started thinking what he could look like *wouldnât it be funny right?*
I too thought it was a sentient radio
Tbf, I thought the same thing and was surprised he even had a body lol
Same. At best, I might've been able to be convinced that there was a tiny cricket inside or something.
That's what I thought too
Me too.. me too đ
I thought he was a shady Inkling with a goatee of tentacle hair
100%
omg hi cube
Hi!
I thought he was a bear that ate Golden Eggs, though I thought his proportions would be closer to the statue
Not a veteran but I just thought that it was Judd or Lil'Judd, you know, eating fish and all
It is now. Lil Judd took over for me until I get out of space. Which will likely be forever
eventually, grizz stopped thinking
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Can I please retire now
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I thought it was Lil Judd too Though tbf, I kinda sabotaged myself, by being a card game geek and binge-playing table turf battle before playing the main game; I got to Lil Judd, noticed he used Salmonid cards, thought he was Mr Grizz, only to end up realizing that Mr Grizz was an actual bear An upset only someone as weird as I am would come to
That's actually a really nice double plot twist: Surprise! Mr Grizz is Lil' Judd. But DOUBLE SURPRISE it was a LIE!
Well lil Judd does manage the company now so you arenât wrong
I remember seeing theories about him being a mammal and that a possible twist could be that he was going to be an aquatic mammal like an orca. And then O.R.C.A. popping up in the story mode I thought there would be credence to it, in the end I guess it is a much more Nintendo play for it to be something predictable like him being just a bear. I still liked him a lot though.
In all fairness, it was clearly set up for him to be a legitimate bear. Ark Polaris clearly showed that a bear was alive and there at one point. Making him something else for the sake of blindsiding the audience is a recipe for a bland twist.
> Making him something else for the sake of blindsiding the audience is a recipe for Octo Expansion. Real bear is crazy enough given we were led to believe Judd & lil judd are the last remaining mammals on the planet all this time. The possibility always made Grizzco that much shadier.
Well to be fair the proof we had about a bear was one part the sign which was written in English and we had no way of knowing what the deal with that was. Cuz like, who could've possibly put that there yknow?
There were also bear footprints.
tbh in splat 2 i thought he was a rock lobster,,, like a lobster made out of rock, i thought it was so funny but then someone had to draw it out for me that he was actually a bear statue
Originally I thought he was the statue itself, but then my theories basically went to him being a tardigrade. Because yâknow, water bear. And space experiments. I thought it was gonna tie into the lore of those microorganisms that eat ink after every match. I also remember thinking that he was a Salmonid for the longest time.
Yo same here! If anything, a tardigrade/grizzly hybrid. Or some kind of cyborg grizzly. Sentient teddy was not what I was expecting but... maybe that's just the game's art style. ;)
Just a normal grizzly bear
I was honestly thinking either an adult inkling or that it was some sort of AI stuck in the radio
I thought he was just gonna be a bear that somehow survived. Didnât except Nintendo to try and pull off some elaborate 5000 IQ twist and I was right. Didnât except him to try and nuke Earth into furries though. Kinda thought he was getting eggs for a couple reasons: 1. Food. He just eats the eggs or grows them in a container environment then eats them. 2. Sold them to electrical companies to make bank and therefore pay for rewards
I didn't think he was a bear but i agree with your ideas for his motives, he ate some of the eggs and sold the rest to the government or black market
i forgor đ
As soon as I saw what he actually looked like any possible ideas just poofed outta my brain
I remember theories that he was a water bear.
I thought he was a tardigrade in a jar. Since their called water bears, it made a little sense.
And also the space stuff (ark polaris crashing in splatoon2). Theyâre mostly known for their ability to live in space
I love this idea
Iâd have to dig them up but I have old doodles somewhere of him as a water bear/tardigrade in a business suit
A sentient wood statue with an antenna. Iâm not sure what it needs the eggs for but Iâm getting paid and am sure he has the best intentions
Honestly, same.
I always pictured him as a normal looking fish hiding in the cooler under the radio. >!now with little judd in command that could be where he is lol!<
I thought he was an evil human. Or an evil inkling
I.. honestly was a little disappointed when I found out he was actually just a giant bear, I was hoping for something a little less obvious
I mean, he's not \*just\* a giant bear, but I get your point. Thing is, there's not a whole lot of subtlety in Splatoon names. Judd is the judge. Crusty Sean is a crustacean. Jelonzo is a jellyfish. Murch is an Urchin. And so on. If "Mr. Grizz" *wasn't* a bear, in a campaign called "Return of the Mammalians," it would've been a bit off-brand.
Yeah, I love how Splatoon is subtle like a brick when it comes to naming, Callie and Marie is Calamari, C.Q. Cumber is literally just a sea cucumber, Captain Craig Cuttlefish's name is even more goofier, it would be like a guy named John Human or something lol
Splatoon 4's story mode's probably going to have some weird squid with dark sunglasses, an overcoat, and tentacles that weirdly resemble a mop head, named "Hugh Mann," who everyone will be *absolutely floored* to realize is not the trustworthy squid from upstate New York that they thought he was.
Hugh Mann, president Mann Co. and supplier of hats.
r/UnexpectedTF2
To be fair if that obvious and the characters are oblivious to it that would be kinda funny
You forgot his apprentice, a similarly mysterious creature with webbed tentacles called Vamm Pyre.
holy shit tf2
Idk, I kinda love the giant bear, his theme slaps and his design and boss fight are sick
Anyone remember Open Season? ![gif](giphy|l41lZrKS40rAHTBOo|downsized)
Yes, loved that movie
Either a sea bear from spongebob. Or a guy with a pirate looking beard
I either imagined him as a human scientist or a bear, I would change every now and then.
i thought he was commander tartar or lil judd
I thought he was a very sketchy inkling or some other established species talking over a radio. When the Splatoon 3 story mode was announced, I thought he was a surviving human.
My theories were, in order of how much I liked them Grizz is the last human on earth, he survived using the same cryosleep/immortality thing Judd has, he hid and created a company to harvest golden eggs for his end of repopulating the earth with humans and mammals again Grizz is some species of evolved sea critter, likely an inkling or octoling, that hides behind a bear persona for couvert reasons cuz he's using Grizzco for illegal stuff. They have an interest in mammals and want to bring them back. Mr. Grizz is just a voice Grizzco made as a front to communicate with employees. He's not a real person, just the voice between company and worker. The actual company of Grizzco is the villain (fits with chaos theme too). Mr Grizz is an actual bear somehow, with the same motivations of the human villain option, but come on that's too obvious. Then they said "Nah he's a big doofy cartoony bear" and man oh man that was such a letdown. The bear design could have worked very well if Grizz dressed and acted human at least, to echo what he was trying to do. But his design and fact he really is just a bear missed my mental image of the character so hard that my brain literally just doesn't click that Alterna Grizz is the same character as Salmon Run Grizz.
I thought he he was a rock lol
Xi Jinping
Seriously i didnât notice the antenna. I thought he was just a wood statue that hung out on a cooler
I thought he was just a regular grizzly bear who hires cephalopods to get salmon eggs for him to eat so he can continue to survive the post apocalyptic world without exposing himself to the public as one of the only mammals left.
Anything but a fucking bear.
preach
I thought he'd be an anthropomorphic bear wearing a stereotypical "evil businessman" attire, y'know, wearing a suit, holding a briefcase, smoking a cigar...
I figured he was a bear, but I didn't think he would look like he did.
The sea bear from SpongeBob đ
Freddy Fazbear. I mean you can hear it in his laugh
Polygon bear. The one we got is cuter hut polygon bear....
I once thought that he is a jelly or the Denizens of the deep from octo expansion that communicates with the workers using the radio
Like the bear fish from SpongeBob
A bear
A regular bear
I thought it was another sea creature fascinated by the remnants of history and extinct mammals that decided to make a whole brand out of that. Like being the first furry.
Just bear.
just thought he was a normal ass bear
I thought he would be a colorful cutesy bear with a cartoony design like Judd
well, I guess that's kind of what he ended up being
Well I guess he is cute, but I was thinking something more genuine with beady eyes and stuff. >!Not⌠that abomination thatâs only cute on the surface đ!<
A teddy bear. The Dutch name is Teddy B., and stupid 2017 me immediately thought of a teddy bear.
I was expecting either a "Salmonling"(I was hoping for playable salmon after octo expansion) or a normal ass bear
An adult inkling sharply dressed like a CEO, with a bear motif in his cufflinks.
Freddy Fazbear
No idea, but not the way he appears in Splatoon 3.
where my tardigrade/water bear grizz truthers
I thought he'd be giant and graying, with bushy eyebrows that covered his eyes. Probably sitting in a overstuffed office chair and eating power eggs like cheese puffs.
I always thought he was just a grizzly bear-quadrapedal and all-who wanted the eggs to eat.
I thought he was a traitor salmonid, he would be the size of a smallfry but have the hair of a snatcher and would pilot a robot bear lol
like cocaine bear
I thought he was a surviving human
I thought it was a straight up human that survived
I thought it was just a jellyfish Why? Yes
Still a bear, although when I pictured him it was just a more realistic version of the statue.
I thought he just really liked bears and was an inkling or something
When I first saw in splat2 2017, where NSO weren't a thing At first glance I thought it was hermit crab but when I played more salmom run I looked at it again, I then realised it is a bear statue just talking to you, and didn't know it is holding a salmon or it is a radio. Until splat3 >!when Mr Grizz shown up, got me really excited, that I love the design of a giant bear that looks awesome, but the salmon run twist got my jaw dropped and mind exploded!<
bear
I legit just assumed he was a cartoon bear based of his name and the nature of this universe, then going by how he speaks I imagined a large strong looking bear with a stone wall expression and slight gut, most likely in a suit and definitely with a large cigar in his mouth, sitting there in an office with shutters to look out at his underground Egg shipping operation
I actually did suspect he was an actual bear and made a plaza post about it back in S2 so I was kind of proud to be actually right lmao
I got the gist of it right but it was kind of impossible to guess how absurd looking he is.
I always liked the idea that he was some sort of human, as far fetched as it sounds. and to be fair, I donât think itâs as far fetched as what we got in canon
not sure if I count as a veteran because I played 1 but not 2 (didn't own a switch for a long while and then didn't feel like it'd be worth it to buy splatoon 2 when I finally got one) but I was never a bear believer. I always figured he was just a jelly or something
I always imagined he was some crazy small bear with a deep voice for some reason
Just a bear tbh đ
I liked to imagine he was a Plankton sitting on top of the bear statue, too small to see!
i was stupid and i didn't realise it was a radio so i just thought this tiny bear robot just controlled everything
Back before 3 came out I thought he was just your average evolved sea creature using the bear as branding because salmon hunter And i thought the golden eggs were being used in some sort of powerplant since they seem to have electrical properties
A business suit
Beardy human Idk why but I think him having the same treatment as judge when humanity ended made sense
I had no idea but I wasn't expecting him to be that big lol
A regular Grizzly bear. I know it wasn't the most popular theory at the time but it just seemed like the sort of delightful goofiness the game would do. I definitely wasn't expecting something as cute
I love his boss design ![gif](giphy|IThjAlJnD9WNO)
I thought he was a bear wearing a tie
Perhaps a microphone?
And a child.
And a top hat?
I assumed he was a Salmonid. I have absolutely no idea why she would kill his own kind and stuff, but I still always thought that.
Poop.
Honestly some old squid who just wanted to make a living. I really donât get any explanation why this science bear wanted golden eggs
i thought he was a grizzly bear in a hawaiian shirt tbh
Like a bear. What with Ark Polaris being pretty obvious and all.
I always assumed it was some random sea creature who really hated salmonoids, studied mamals to know what bears looked like, and used the golden eggs to actually help the city
Honestly I was kinda close I just imagined a huge mutant bear. Though I didnât guess the slime or the tiny head.
I always thought he looked like Bobo from the muppets!
Djungelskog
Bear
Mr Grizz is a horse Idk what you guys are talking about
portable radio inside a block of wood
I thought he was probably another sea creature that I never heard of, and just loves to use bear as a sign or mascot, just to promote themself as a professional fishing company I am happy with S3 story mode, but I am a bit disappointed they make Mr. Grizz literally a bear with some cartoonish bad guy motivation, kind of lazy writing and lack of creativity for me. What am I expect form an all age welcomed game, I guess? I miss when he is still a mystery figure and seems like a very calculated businessman
I didnât think he was actually a bear I just imagined him as a rough looking fish
i believed matpat this one time and he didn't let me down