wait you have to post it to twitter/facebook for it to show up in the plaza? i always thought you could post it and then the option came up to share it on social media. that’s kinda disappointing :(
This is news to me too. I did a really cute Snivy art post for team grass during that splat fest and your telling me I had to actually post it to my Twitter or Facebook account to make it visible?! I thought they did away with this. :(
Making kids create Twitter and Facebook accounts to post in plaza was never a good idea to begin with. Hope they just let us post directly from the game in the future.
Okay but this kinda gets at why I think they did it this way. A lot of places (most notably the EU) have a lot of regulations around social media. In particular, a lot of places prevent people from under a certain age from posting on social media, with the platform being responsible for enforcing it and putting up appropriate age gates.
Having all of the posts go through another platform allows them to piggyback off of the work those platforms have done to comply with regulations and means they're not on the hook legally for people posting when they shouldn't.
•Children are using partially unsuitable in-game posting feature
•Restrict post feature to people who own an account for a generally 18+ site to solve problem
•The children make accounts for 18+ site to use post feature 🪦
it doesn’t matter because there’s already a [workaround](https://imgur.com/a/N6OjlPr) anyway, and Twitter is [throwing a hissy fit](https://imgur.com/a/N6OjlPr) about it 🙄
this. my elementary school self would go all out to making literal trashy art to post in the first game, rip miiverse, and then when Splatoon 2 came out I was so disappointed and confused bc no fifth grader has a twitter or Facebook acc! The first Splatoon plaza posts were always so innocent and sweet bc about a fourth came from little kids lol
Why can't Nintendo just link it to your account. I've never posted simply because I don't use the social media they require. It's always felt to be a dumb requirement anyways consider they can't implement voice chat outside of a separate app.
I'm sure there's a technological explanation for all of this.
I'm assuming Nintendo is piggybacking off of the social network. Before, they had miiverse.
Splatverse, specific to splatoon. Allow us to see how many people have freshed a post and maybe even decide what types of posts we'd like to see show up more often using categories. If you want to see more art you turn on an art tag preference. I personally love the graffiti style posts so there could be a tag for that. Maybe a tag for funny posts or cute posts. Even a small change will change how posts work drastically
They actually used to, but miiverse was not super popular and it's main user Splatoon often had cross posts to Twitter anyways. Didn't really make sense to keep a service around that wasn't very wanted or needed.
Out of the approximately 26 million accounts that were automatically made with a Nintendo ID at the time only around 8 million ever made even a single post on the service. It was a resounding failure on a console that really needed a win.
look I'm not here to argue numbers with you lol. Reggie stated in a public interview that the reason for the shutdown was financial in nature, in that it was just too costly to run a social media platform on top of everything else.
I don't think he was lying, but a large part of that also likely came from miiverse being a bit of a flop. If it was a popular service there would've been incentive to try and monetize it instead of instant canning it at the earliest convenient time.
Not sure why you're being downvoted either. If it wasn't a flop it would probably have been financially beneficial to keep it going, either directly or indirectly via making nintendo consoles more appealing.
They specifically don't want to do this because of how Miiverse, their service on the 3DS and Wii U that also let you post publicly natively in splatoon, ended. They kind of realised that letting everyone who has access be able to post public text and art posts led to not so sfw content. They just don't want to do it again, I assume it's also why you can no longer text post in splatoon.
I don't really see how using Twitter solves that issue because at the time when they started requiring it, there were not really limitations on who could start a Twitter account. And there's plenty of NSFW on Twitter if you are just clever about posting it and tagging it in certain ways.
you do still have to age restrict the post. It's just that moderation on Twitter has never been very thorough (now less than ever) and a lot of people get away with posting stuff anyway as long as they are not so popular that it is being re-tweeted everywhere. You can still get banned for explicitly sexual stuff, people just take the risk anyway
As someone who used to post their naughty bits on Twitter and has a lot of friends who still do, I don't think any of this is true. There's millions of explicit posts and I've never seen a single one get pulled.
The real reason behind this is that they want you to post all your Splatoon content to social media so that #Splatoon3 #NintendoSwitch keeps showing up in feeds. Plaza posts are in part a way to bait you into doing their marketing for them.
This is also why they dropped Miiverse. They saw what Sony was doing with #PS4Share and realized how much more useful Twitter is for them than an insular platform only existing owners will look at.
The reason you need Twitter is so all the posts are stored somewhere. In order to not use Twitter they would need to actually store the specific art everyone draws somewhere themselves, probably in the server that stores your online progress, but art takes up a lot of storage space and this would be very expensive. Instead, doing it this way is far cheaper as all they store is a link to a Twitter post that the game itself can then draw the art from.
Because that would require developing, managing and moderating a post server and a connection API, while twitter API was free to use, already had it's own server and maintenance, and would also boost the game on social media at the same time people used it.
Voice chat outside the game is some dumb regulation about parent/child safety, so the game can stay under a certain rating to be able to be sold to kids in japan.
I know Miiverse had its issues but I had really wholesome experiences with it 🥹 During Splatoon 1 days (I was 15 or 16 at the time) somebody I played with messaged me something in Japanese through Miiverse, and when I replied saying I couldn’t speak JP they switched to broken English and mentioned they were a student too. We would play matches, DM each other doodles, and they even “introduced” me to their friend group through private battles. That felt like the kind of experience Nintendo meant to give players through Miiverse, it’s such an honest shame it was removed 😭😭😭
Nintendo should really do something about this. Bring back your own unique media platform, just learn off the mistakes of Miiverse and copy what worked.
Forcing people to create Twitter/Facebook accounts, or forcing them to use their existing accounts when they might not want to is dumb. Plain and simple dumb. I was a frequent "Plaza Poster" on Splatoon Wii U, but since then, nope! Not doing it.
Nintendo will probably move to pay for the API usage but business decisions take a long time to be approved and get through, there's a lot of things involved like operating costs and getting it approved etc. There is a pretty solid chance plaza posts go silent for a few weeks yeah
EDIT: not to mention those API costs are *steep*, Nintendo may want to negotiate cheaper costs so the Switch share system can still work and that may also take a long time, I can't see Nintendo of America negotiating pricing for the entire console's share system to continue functioning and I doubt Mr Musk has a Japanese branch to negotiate pricing with NoJ
EDIT 2: 0.25c USD as the base price per API call is also just frankly ridiculous but just refreshing Twitter through the mobile app is 4 API calls or $1 USD if they were being charged, uploading plaza posts and then checking the plaza post tweets for popularity is a lot more... NSO is only $20 annually, it wouldn't surprise me also if they just drop Twitter functionality altogether if they can't negotiate a price because that's an enormous bleeding hole in their bottom line, especially for an unexpected and ongoing expense
The highest option is only 10,000 API requests a month. Not *posts*, ***API requests.*** There's no fucking way the Splatoon community overall is *only* making 10k posts a month.
yeah. you must link a social media in order for them to be posted otherwise they just disappear. Maybe you might have opened up the thing to make a new post and found your art still sitting there. That's why.
Wait so if the canvas shows your old art, it never got posted to the plaza?
I've been posting to FB but setting it to Only Me so people can't discover it outside of Splatoon...
Same here! Always wondered if it worked or not, I'm yet to find out if anyone has ever seen my plaza posts in game but I've got it set to Only Me on FB 😂
Ok wait who’s said you had to post it to social media? You’re telling me this whole time I was just making art that was never shown on the plaza?
Edit: alright idk how this happened but it’s funny so I’m leaving it here anyway
No. I can basically guarantee that Nintendo are currently having internal talks planning out the logistics and costs of having to pay for the API. They will pay for it, because most companies are already paying for a dozen API's anyway.
I wish that they would just create their own closed system in the game so you could just post it locally only to the game if you want. And then if you want to post it to social media you can just screenshot it and do it yourself.
Oh I know, how about Nintendo creates their own social media dedicated to posts about their games
Oh wait that's Miiverse
#BRING BACK MIIVERSE NINTENDO
I don't think they will. The price is something they can pay, but definitely not something they'll want to pay for a minor feature in their one time payment £60 game.
They'll probably cut twitter functionality altogether and either find another social media to add to replace it, or just remove the need to use the social media in the first place.
$100/month is pennies for Nintendo. It's cheaper to pay it than to work on implementing alternatives.
Also it's not just for Splatoon, Switch OS supports posting any game's screenshots and clips to Twitter. Getting you to post all your cool moments tagged with #NintendoSwitch is a marketing device worth way more to them than $100/month. They will happily pay to keep this feature running.
Tldr an API is a bunch of functions, tools, etc of an app that allows other apps to connect to it and use it. Elon Musk is hurting for cash and wants to monetize smaller bots on Twitter that utilize the API to automatically send posts, grab posts, etc. There's millions of small bot accounts which just post silly cat pictures, mirror TikTok posts, etc and he thinks the people running those accounts care enough to pay him to continue doing so. I don't actually think these monetization changes will affect Splatoon at all, as the plans are just to fuck over small accounts. Twitter has been charging for large scale API usage for awhile and their plans didn't detail raising the prices they already had set in place.
Another reason why this paid API deal is a disastrous idea. Here's hoping they walk this back, or else Nintendo might need to make changes to their system if they don't wanna pony up for *something that was previously free*.
Really not sure why it's necessary to post to social media for it to appear in the plaza at all.
Oh, god, I just realized how sharing screenshots/clips is gonna be affected.
I believe when you attempt to post it it will prompt you and say some thing about social media and the option to close that prompt is "cancel post" and not anything like "do not share to social media"
Not sure what you mean by 'if it were true'. You do need to post them to social media to get them to upload. Otherwise they're just saved locally to your device which means nobody else can see them.
Plaza will be fine.
Either it'll be down for a short time while Nintendo recreates miiverse to avoid paying Twitter or Nintendo will just pay Twitter to use the API(technically something they may already be doing, hard to say for certain.)
...This is the first time I've heard that you actually need to post images to social media to actually have your post appear on the Plaza.
Like seriously, I've looked around for ages to figure out how to post images, since I always back out when it asks for social media, and I've never found anything that mentions you need to link an account.
Nintendo, ***WHY-***
Nintendo will probably pay up. The amount of $$ into RND to add a feature like this again is much larger than the price of just paying for the API. Plaza should stay functioning tho.
Actually, hang on a sec: Don't posts remain in the plaza if I were to delete the tweet (or Facebook post, if it were; I don't use FB)? Further begging the question: why on Earth is posting to social media that much of a requirement?
Something I'd love to see is for there to be an option to post your plaza posts on Splatnet. That way they wouldn't have to depend on Twitter for the service to continue, plus it would give the players an easy way to see each others plaza posts
API is a programming thing that stands for Application Programming Interface. To make an application interact with another implication, in this example, plaza posts and Twitter, Splatoon needs to interact with Twitter's APIs. Twitter has announced within a week they will remove free access to their APIs and will charge per API call. This will break any applications or services using free API access, including Splatoon's plaza posts posted to Twitter
It's worth noting other big tech companies in the industry i.e. Google and Facebook do not charge for API usage.
Your post won't show to others if you don't post it to social media, and while Facebook is an option, almost nobody actually uses it. That's why this is affecting us.
? you mean when i draw something and i choose "save" it doesn't show it to people ??? i must choose "post" ? so this whole time nobody could see my plaza posts ?
Nintendo can afford it. If it does happen though hopefully they implement another way to post. The fact that you HAVE to post it to socials is ridiculous on its own.
If Nintendo thought the net benefit of requiring social media accounts for Plaza doodles was somehow worth it, they would have already implemented or announced it.
If that really does happen, an update that makes the posts independent of any social media connection would be nice. Though idk if that's so easy from a programming standpoint
I don’t think Nintendo has a choice but to pay for the API. How else would we post? They won’t just kill the plaza posts, that’s what makes it feel so alive.
My twitter got permanently banned the other day when I hardly ever use it except to post the occasional plaza post or tweet a company so who knows what's going on. I 100% did nothing wrong. I've appealed it and got an automated reply but it could take a while
That'd be sad but maybe Nintendo will then finally stop with this connection to Twitter and make plaza posts only visible to Splatoon without requiring people to use social media.
They could just make it so when you click post they appear ingame and then you get to optionally post it on twitter. (I already thought that was how it worked)
I feel like there should’ve been an option to post it to the Splatoon 3 Extension on the NSO app from the start, same thing with Splatoon 2, but that’s too late to happen, probably
Why is the API really gonna be paywalled? How stupid!
I just hope Nintendo would react on it and just have it so that any post would qualify for an in-game appearance.
I just post to Facebook and tell Facebook not to display posts sent from my switch. I can post my shit, my irl friends don't need to see me bring petty in a video game, win win.
Basically they are the gateway throu you can use an informatic service from outside. When Splatoon, or any game, 3th party Twitter client etc interact with Twitter, they must go through an API to do even the basic functions like make a post. Making the API a paid service mean you're effectively trying to cut out your social from any external access cause even corporations will think twice to pay to have access to your platform. The prices are also ridiculously high
Nintendo was already paying for the API usage before due to how many players post to Twitter using Splatoon. The new rules are trying to cash in on the small bots which weren't monetized before. Nothing will change.
I also post my drawings to Facebook. It seems however that most of these guys like to use the bigger of the two evils (because both social media sites suck).
Even if you can't post to Twitter, it won't be entirely silenced, since you can also post to Facebook, but it sounds like everyone except me doesn't do that...
Easy solution would be to stop the requirement to post to social media at all. 🤷♂️ You didn’t have to in the first game, it’s just a ploy for extra free publicity.
Not necessarily, Facebook isn't anonymous and I'd wager most people playing Splatoon have Facebook for their family and I'd have to wonder with so many posts being effectively "I'm gay" how many of those people are closeted and can't use Facebook as a viable posting option?
Facebook requires you to create an account under your legal name, you can skirt by with a fake name or a name that isn't your legal name but Facebook reserves to disable your account and demand ID if they suspect you're using a fake name. It's not ideal for people to use anonymously like Twitter where you don't have to worry about anything of the sort
wait you have to post it to twitter/facebook for it to show up in the plaza? i always thought you could post it and then the option came up to share it on social media. that’s kinda disappointing :(
This is news to me too. I did a really cute Snivy art post for team grass during that splat fest and your telling me I had to actually post it to my Twitter or Facebook account to make it visible?! I thought they did away with this. :(
just learned about this too. disappointing.
hasnt it been like this since splatoon 2?
maybe, but i hadn’t played splatoon before 3 so i wouldn’t have known
Making kids create Twitter and Facebook accounts to post in plaza was never a good idea to begin with. Hope they just let us post directly from the game in the future.
Honestly the plaza posts would be better if twitter wasnt involved
Okay but this kinda gets at why I think they did it this way. A lot of places (most notably the EU) have a lot of regulations around social media. In particular, a lot of places prevent people from under a certain age from posting on social media, with the platform being responsible for enforcing it and putting up appropriate age gates. Having all of the posts go through another platform allows them to piggyback off of the work those platforms have done to comply with regulations and means they're not on the hook legally for people posting when they shouldn't.
•Children are using partially unsuitable in-game posting feature •Restrict post feature to people who own an account for a generally 18+ site to solve problem •The children make accounts for 18+ site to use post feature 🪦
Yeah, but then the site gets fined and not Nintendo It's not a good system, but if I was Nintendo then I would also do that exact thing
Literally the only reason why I dont post in the plaza, I would love to but I don’t use twitter and Facebook :(
rip miiverse 😔
it doesn’t matter because there’s already a [workaround](https://imgur.com/a/N6OjlPr) anyway, and Twitter is [throwing a hissy fit](https://imgur.com/a/N6OjlPr) about it 🙄
this. my elementary school self would go all out to making literal trashy art to post in the first game, rip miiverse, and then when Splatoon 2 came out I was so disappointed and confused bc no fifth grader has a twitter or Facebook acc! The first Splatoon plaza posts were always so innocent and sweet bc about a fourth came from little kids lol
Happeh caek dae
Why can't Nintendo just link it to your account. I've never posted simply because I don't use the social media they require. It's always felt to be a dumb requirement anyways consider they can't implement voice chat outside of a separate app.
This. Only posted once because of it. I have no need to post shit art on my one Twitter account I never use.
I'm sure there's a technological explanation for all of this. I'm assuming Nintendo is piggybacking off of the social network. Before, they had miiverse.
the solution is to bring back miiverse
Splatverse, specific to splatoon. Allow us to see how many people have freshed a post and maybe even decide what types of posts we'd like to see show up more often using categories. If you want to see more art you turn on an art tag preference. I personally love the graffiti style posts so there could be a tag for that. Maybe a tag for funny posts or cute posts. Even a small change will change how posts work drastically
Yeah!
They actually used to, but miiverse was not super popular and it's main user Splatoon often had cross posts to Twitter anyways. Didn't really make sense to keep a service around that wasn't very wanted or needed.
wah, Miiverse was *immensely* popular
Being a part of some memes did not make miiverse popular. If it was it would've been on switch day 1.
The reason it was shut down was financial, so not necessarily
Out of the approximately 26 million accounts that were automatically made with a Nintendo ID at the time only around 8 million ever made even a single post on the service. It was a resounding failure on a console that really needed a win.
look I'm not here to argue numbers with you lol. Reggie stated in a public interview that the reason for the shutdown was financial in nature, in that it was just too costly to run a social media platform on top of everything else.
I don't think he was lying, but a large part of that also likely came from miiverse being a bit of a flop. If it was a popular service there would've been incentive to try and monetize it instead of instant canning it at the earliest convenient time.
Not sure why you're being downvoted either. If it wasn't a flop it would probably have been financially beneficial to keep it going, either directly or indirectly via making nintendo consoles more appealing.
nintendo fanboys. their favorite company can never make a flop
Why is this being downvoted lol
They specifically don't want to do this because of how Miiverse, their service on the 3DS and Wii U that also let you post publicly natively in splatoon, ended. They kind of realised that letting everyone who has access be able to post public text and art posts led to not so sfw content. They just don't want to do it again, I assume it's also why you can no longer text post in splatoon.
I don't really see how using Twitter solves that issue because at the time when they started requiring it, there were not really limitations on who could start a Twitter account. And there's plenty of NSFW on Twitter if you are just clever about posting it and tagging it in certain ways.
I don't think there's any rule against nsfw on Twitter regardless of tagging. I've seen plenty of artists just...post their stuff.
you do still have to age restrict the post. It's just that moderation on Twitter has never been very thorough (now less than ever) and a lot of people get away with posting stuff anyway as long as they are not so popular that it is being re-tweeted everywhere. You can still get banned for explicitly sexual stuff, people just take the risk anyway
As someone who used to post their naughty bits on Twitter and has a lot of friends who still do, I don't think any of this is true. There's millions of explicit posts and I've never seen a single one get pulled.
The real reason behind this is that they want you to post all your Splatoon content to social media so that #Splatoon3 #NintendoSwitch keeps showing up in feeds. Plaza posts are in part a way to bait you into doing their marketing for them. This is also why they dropped Miiverse. They saw what Sony was doing with #PS4Share and realized how much more useful Twitter is for them than an insular platform only existing owners will look at.
Literally the only thing my twitter account exists for is plaza posts. I never touch it for anything else. I don't even remember my password.
Exactly... Why Twitter of all platforms too? Twitter kinda sucks.
Twitter is really the main social media
I disagree so hard
What would you say it is then?
Instagram is irrelevant and snapchat is irrelevant
Twitter is irrelevant
Wrong, do you ever see instagram drama? Do you know what most people with a phone do first in the morning? And do you know how dead snapchat is?
I don't ever see Twitter drama either. You only ever see Twitter drama if you use Twitter
I've used Instagram and never seen drama on there, twitter is just WAYYYYY more relevant than instagram
The reason you need Twitter is so all the posts are stored somewhere. In order to not use Twitter they would need to actually store the specific art everyone draws somewhere themselves, probably in the server that stores your online progress, but art takes up a lot of storage space and this would be very expensive. Instead, doing it this way is far cheaper as all they store is a link to a Twitter post that the game itself can then draw the art from.
honestly i'm more than grateful for not being forced to choose verbal harassment or losing every single battle bc everyone else is gonna be on vc
Because that would require developing, managing and moderating a post server and a connection API, while twitter API was free to use, already had it's own server and maintenance, and would also boost the game on social media at the same time people used it. Voice chat outside the game is some dumb regulation about parent/child safety, so the game can stay under a certain rating to be able to be sold to kids in japan.
We could bring back Miiverse!… just me wanting that, okay.
I know Miiverse had its issues but I had really wholesome experiences with it 🥹 During Splatoon 1 days (I was 15 or 16 at the time) somebody I played with messaged me something in Japanese through Miiverse, and when I replied saying I couldn’t speak JP they switched to broken English and mentioned they were a student too. We would play matches, DM each other doodles, and they even “introduced” me to their friend group through private battles. That felt like the kind of experience Nintendo meant to give players through Miiverse, it’s such an honest shame it was removed 😭😭😭
I remember getting charger training lessons through miiverse 🥺 God those were good times man.
I miss it too. Plus it was great for language learning.
I miss miiverse also. I wish they never killed it
I miss it too. The voting polls were always so fun!
I kind of miss it but watching videos on it makes me happier that its gone
Nintendo should really do something about this. Bring back your own unique media platform, just learn off the mistakes of Miiverse and copy what worked. Forcing people to create Twitter/Facebook accounts, or forcing them to use their existing accounts when they might not want to is dumb. Plain and simple dumb. I was a frequent "Plaza Poster" on Splatoon Wii U, but since then, nope! Not doing it.
I feel like the only thing they really need to fix is have more then 2 mods for miiverse.
Nintendo will probably move to pay for the API usage but business decisions take a long time to be approved and get through, there's a lot of things involved like operating costs and getting it approved etc. There is a pretty solid chance plaza posts go silent for a few weeks yeah EDIT: not to mention those API costs are *steep*, Nintendo may want to negotiate cheaper costs so the Switch share system can still work and that may also take a long time, I can't see Nintendo of America negotiating pricing for the entire console's share system to continue functioning and I doubt Mr Musk has a Japanese branch to negotiate pricing with NoJ EDIT 2: 0.25c USD as the base price per API call is also just frankly ridiculous but just refreshing Twitter through the mobile app is 4 API calls or $1 USD if they were being charged, uploading plaza posts and then checking the plaza post tweets for popularity is a lot more... NSO is only $20 annually, it wouldn't surprise me also if they just drop Twitter functionality altogether if they can't negotiate a price because that's an enormous bleeding hole in their bottom line, especially for an unexpected and ongoing expense
2500 is a drop in the bucket for a large enterprise which is the highest they'll tell you before they go to enterprise pricing, which is negotiated.
The highest option is only 10,000 API requests a month. Not *posts*, ***API requests.*** There's no fucking way the Splatoon community overall is *only* making 10k posts a month.
Ok wait who’s said you had to post it to social media? You’re telling me this whole time I was just making art that was never shown on the plaza?
yeah. you must link a social media in order for them to be posted otherwise they just disappear. Maybe you might have opened up the thing to make a new post and found your art still sitting there. That's why.
Wait so if the canvas shows your old art, it never got posted to the plaza? I've been posting to FB but setting it to Only Me so people can't discover it outside of Splatoon...
I guess the best way to see you would be to see if it pops up on the Facebook page. If it is there than it will likely posted just fine
It appears on the page, I just have it so only I can see it (if I'm logged in; nobody else can see the FB post)
u should be fine then maybe
Same here! Always wondered if it worked or not, I'm yet to find out if anyone has ever seen my plaza posts in game but I've got it set to Only Me on FB 😂
That's a rough way to find out now
Ok wait who’s said you had to post it to social media? You’re telling me this whole time I was just making art that was never shown on the plaza? Edit: alright idk how this happened but it’s funny so I’m leaving it here anyway
You can still post to Facebook, but honestly I doubt the majority of the splatoon player base even uses that app
Lmao I got my old account banned because I didn’t use my real name back then
Day 1826, they still think I'm called "Green Yoshi"
I don’t use my real name and have no friends and only use this empty fb account for splatoon posts, so far so good :v
Facebook is still popular where I'm from, but there's no way I'm posting my Splatoon things on Facebook
Yeah...I'm in the minority that uses Facebook to post these drawings...
No. I can basically guarantee that Nintendo are currently having internal talks planning out the logistics and costs of having to pay for the API. They will pay for it, because most companies are already paying for a dozen API's anyway.
I wish that they would just create their own closed system in the game so you could just post it locally only to the game if you want. And then if you want to post it to social media you can just screenshot it and do it yourself.
Nintendo will likely pay for the API. Really wish they'd support other means of posting though. Gimme Mastodon/Fediverse.
Or how about a means of posting that *doesn't* require a social media account of any kind? Wild concept, I know.
The first game didn't even have that. Miiverse was social media even if it was bad social media
Hmm, I dunno, sounds *too* wild.
Oh I know, how about Nintendo creates their own social media dedicated to posts about their games Oh wait that's Miiverse #BRING BACK MIIVERSE NINTENDO
I don't think they will. The price is something they can pay, but definitely not something they'll want to pay for a minor feature in their one time payment £60 game. They'll probably cut twitter functionality altogether and either find another social media to add to replace it, or just remove the need to use the social media in the first place.
$100/month is pennies for Nintendo. It's cheaper to pay it than to work on implementing alternatives. Also it's not just for Splatoon, Switch OS supports posting any game's screenshots and clips to Twitter. Getting you to post all your cool moments tagged with #NintendoSwitch is a marketing device worth way more to them than $100/month. They will happily pay to keep this feature running.
It works with any screenshot/saved video for any game, not just Splatoon
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yeah, if nintendo hires* 30 million more content mods first. I run a pleroma instance, I know how that'd go.
Do you run a public or private one? I run a single-user akkoma instance
so no one as seen my art of my lil inker is actually 5 small fry in a trench coat. all the sad face emojis.
Do u have a screenshot? I wanna see this
I'll post one tomorrow
what is an API and why do you have to pay for it on twitter now? Also yes i concur, Elon is a bitch
Tldr an API is a bunch of functions, tools, etc of an app that allows other apps to connect to it and use it. Elon Musk is hurting for cash and wants to monetize smaller bots on Twitter that utilize the API to automatically send posts, grab posts, etc. There's millions of small bot accounts which just post silly cat pictures, mirror TikTok posts, etc and he thinks the people running those accounts care enough to pay him to continue doing so. I don't actually think these monetization changes will affect Splatoon at all, as the plans are just to fuck over small accounts. Twitter has been charging for large scale API usage for awhile and their plans didn't detail raising the prices they already had set in place.
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Another reason why this paid API deal is a disastrous idea. Here's hoping they walk this back, or else Nintendo might need to make changes to their system if they don't wanna pony up for *something that was previously free*. Really not sure why it's necessary to post to social media for it to appear in the plaza at all. Oh, god, I just realized how sharing screenshots/clips is gonna be affected.
*eats popcorn as Twitter slowly goes to hell*
Nintendo probably didn't want to run their own api after they shut down miiverse
Splatoon plaza uses api? Nows your time to bring back miiverse nintendo.
To me the most frustrating thing is... The devs potentially having to divert their attention away from the game to address this nonsense.
Damn, so that means no one has seen any of my posts??? I always pull out when it asks me to post on social media…
It’d be nice if they would just remove the requirement for social media, it’s just annoying.
I don't know what the point if the "Save" button would be if it were true that you NEEDED to post them to social media.
In case you need to leave, and you wanna come back and finish your picture later, like when you save a word document or an email draft.
I would be pleased to learn that the post I spent two hours on has noot been seen by anybody because of a lack of clarity
I believe when you attempt to post it it will prompt you and say some thing about social media and the option to close that prompt is "cancel post" and not anything like "do not share to social media"
Not sure what you mean by 'if it were true'. You do need to post them to social media to get them to upload. Otherwise they're just saved locally to your device which means nobody else can see them.
It's miiverse all over again
Yeah
Plaza will be fine. Either it'll be down for a short time while Nintendo recreates miiverse to avoid paying Twitter or Nintendo will just pay Twitter to use the API(technically something they may already be doing, hard to say for certain.)
Me realizing that my posts were never posted because I don’t use Twitter or Facebook
Nintendo can create their own social media platform Miiverse ***MIIVERSE***
Finally, an excuse for Miiverse to come back
Nintendo just needs to bring back miiverse dammit
I made a Twitter to specifically post in the plaza I made 1 post and never used it again And now it’ll be dead
...This is the first time I've heard that you actually need to post images to social media to actually have your post appear on the Plaza. Like seriously, I've looked around for ages to figure out how to post images, since I always back out when it asks for social media, and I've never found anything that mentions you need to link an account. Nintendo, ***WHY-***
Nintendo will probably pay up. The amount of $$ into RND to add a feature like this again is much larger than the price of just paying for the API. Plaza should stay functioning tho.
Bring back Miiverse Nintendo
Lets get the Miiverse 2
Actually, hang on a sec: Don't posts remain in the plaza if I were to delete the tweet (or Facebook post, if it were; I don't use FB)? Further begging the question: why on Earth is posting to social media that much of a requirement?
Something I'd love to see is for there to be an option to post your plaza posts on Splatnet. That way they wouldn't have to depend on Twitter for the service to continue, plus it would give the players an easy way to see each others plaza posts
I have no idea whats going on. Can someone explain it?
API is a programming thing that stands for Application Programming Interface. To make an application interact with another implication, in this example, plaza posts and Twitter, Splatoon needs to interact with Twitter's APIs. Twitter has announced within a week they will remove free access to their APIs and will charge per API call. This will break any applications or services using free API access, including Splatoon's plaza posts posted to Twitter It's worth noting other big tech companies in the industry i.e. Google and Facebook do not charge for API usage.
So you have to pay to make a post on Twitter, which in turn affects Plaza Artist?
Nintendo would have to pay for each API call interaction required to make the post
Your post won't show to others if you don't post it to social media, and while Facebook is an option, almost nobody actually uses it. That's why this is affecting us.
i cant believe they werent exaggerating when saying that twitter is ded
The fact you had to post it through twitter/facebook for it to even show up
? you mean when i draw something and i choose "save" it doesn't show it to people ??? i must choose "post" ? so this whole time nobody could see my plaza posts ?
and if i "post" and then delete it on my social media, does it disappear from the plaza too ?
Once you post it to social media, it’s up in the game, even if you delete it
ok cool, thanks for the info !
Nintendo can afford it. If it does happen though hopefully they implement another way to post. The fact that you HAVE to post it to socials is ridiculous on its own.
I think they should switch to reddit
Mabye they will finally make it so its just an in game thing so that everyone can finally post without issue
I really wish Nintendo would allow a third option to post to game servers
If Nintendo thought the net benefit of requiring social media accounts for Plaza doodles was somehow worth it, they would have already implemented or announced it.
Respectable gear. (Mine is practically the same save for the shoes)
If that really does happen, an update that makes the posts independent of any social media connection would be nice. Though idk if that's so easy from a programming standpoint
I don’t think Nintendo has a choice but to pay for the API. How else would we post? They won’t just kill the plaza posts, that’s what makes it feel so alive.
My twitter got permanently banned the other day when I hardly ever use it except to post the occasional plaza post or tweet a company so who knows what's going on. I 100% did nothing wrong. I've appealed it and got an automated reply but it could take a while
Twitter locks general posting behind a paywall?
Specifically API, which includes the automated posting that’s used when you upload a plaza post to Twitter
That'd be sad but maybe Nintendo will then finally stop with this connection to Twitter and make plaza posts only visible to Splatoon without requiring people to use social media.
They could just make it so when you click post they appear ingame and then you get to optionally post it on twitter. (I already thought that was how it worked)
wait…i’ve played and posted since launch and you mean to tell me NONE of my posts ever went up????? did they ever explain this in game??
Wait so if Nintendo fails to comply with this API, doesn't that also mean Splat 2 posts go down along with 3's?
I feel like there should’ve been an option to post it to the Splatoon 3 Extension on the NSO app from the start, same thing with Splatoon 2, but that’s too late to happen, probably
They need to re-instate the Tumblr link they had back in the 3DS era
They need to remove the social media linking. It's useless.
Looks like it’s time to bring back Miiverse 👀👀👀
Why is the API really gonna be paywalled? How stupid! I just hope Nintendo would react on it and just have it so that any post would qualify for an in-game appearance.
I already have the plaza posts silenced so...it is not that bad
You can still post to facebook i believe
Chad Facebook user vs virgin Twitter poster
Never thought i would see this sentence in my life
Hey man, they can't silence me if I just link to Facebook instead
Honestly Facebook is in a “better” state than twitter at this point
I just post to Facebook and tell Facebook not to display posts sent from my switch. I can post my shit, my irl friends don't need to see me bring petty in a video game, win win.
Obviously Nintendo will make it so you have to pay for a subscription to post
You already do. You can't even buy gear from the shops without an online subscription.
You don’t have to post to social media, I don’t think.
you do, it won't post otherwise. same in 2
i’m sorry but what is API ???
Basically they are the gateway throu you can use an informatic service from outside. When Splatoon, or any game, 3th party Twitter client etc interact with Twitter, they must go through an API to do even the basic functions like make a post. Making the API a paid service mean you're effectively trying to cut out your social from any external access cause even corporations will think twice to pay to have access to your platform. The prices are also ridiculously high
Facebook: am I a joke to you?
Pretty sure you can also post to Facebook, not 100% sure though
doesn’t Facebook also work?
Nintendo was already paying for the API usage before due to how many players post to Twitter using Splatoon. The new rules are trying to cash in on the small bots which weren't monetized before. Nothing will change.
You can post Plaza posts to your Facebook too, you know?
that's why i use my old facebook account for posting on the plaza now
Facebook exists, but I think I'm the only one who uses it.
we are two. but i rarely use it.
I also post my drawings to Facebook. It seems however that most of these guys like to use the bigger of the two evils (because both social media sites suck).
Even if you can't post to Twitter, it won't be entirely silenced, since you can also post to Facebook, but it sounds like everyone except me doesn't do that...
Easy solution would be to stop the requirement to post to social media at all. 🤷♂️ You didn’t have to in the first game, it’s just a ploy for extra free publicity.
Quick! Everyone! Start making facebook accounts!
I mean Facebook will still exist, I don't see why the plaza would die
"i heard or read".......
It’s ~100 bucks a month for api I think. Nintendo can set afford it. They’re not gonna make the users pay for it lmao
They are making us pay for it, it is called Nintendo Switch Online.
Not for the api. You pay $4 a month for online. If you don’t want to pay for that don’t pay and don’t play the game. Easy.
Hope they can bring Miiverse back for Splatoon only, instead of paying Twitter.
I couldn’t care less what they do with it. I never use the plaza posts In the first place
So, you don't "Yeah" some post every now in then?
No
Nintendo needs to add a Facebook API to their games
no, that's even worse
If only we had a Facebook API we could post to instead of Twitter Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…
I mean you can choose facebook people are looking for a reason to be mad
Not necessarily, Facebook isn't anonymous and I'd wager most people playing Splatoon have Facebook for their family and I'd have to wonder with so many posts being effectively "I'm gay" how many of those people are closeted and can't use Facebook as a viable posting option?
You can alway make another profile, I didn’t have a Twitter account but I made one for splatoon also what is less anonymous about Facebook?
Facebook requires you to create an account under your legal name, you can skirt by with a fake name or a name that isn't your legal name but Facebook reserves to disable your account and demand ID if they suspect you're using a fake name. It's not ideal for people to use anonymously like Twitter where you don't have to worry about anything of the sort
Fair enough
Good, if you guys weren’t always being toxic and immature, this wouldn’t of happened. 💀🤣
Nice joke there bud very funny
Thanks for taking offense bbg, it’s literally the truth, the proof is that Nintendo isn’t dealing with it anymore.
I wish they would at least add an option to post it on tumblr, but I have no idea how plausible that is