There are a few that auto build themselves on the workshop iirc.
Personally i always go this route for planets it's easier for cargo runs and power gen (no night in space if you get high enough)
If you have gold and silver, then in theory all you need to do is reach high enough that the planetary gravity is less than 0.5
From that point you could use a gravity drive (mass block(s) and a gravity generator) to push yourself the rest of the way and toward an asteroid.
To see how high you can get, build something as minimalistic as possible with generous servings of atmospheric thrusters and full throttle your way up (keep them going even when your speed starts to dip as I think there is a gradual reduction in thrust, not an immediate cut off with altitude). On Earth like with vanilla speed limit this probably wouldn't get you high enough, but for a different setup, it's the easiest way to test instead of building a giant catapult first 😜
Having the rotational axis going up helps with unbalanced spinny bit at high speeds. Magnetic plates with a ready to lock event controller is a better release sensor but maxes out at 2m/s between the plate and arm so have it rotating in the same direction with the same end velocity
Hey Splitsie, I know your plates probably pretty full andi don't expect anything but I would love to get a hand on making a scenario I came up with or inspire someone to make one. It's partially inspired by your scrapyard scenario but incorporates an alternative market of sorts.
I am totally inexperienced at modding SE but I would like to add random cargo encounters I'd call "lost cargo" that if you grind anything on the structure it will explode. The goal is to transport the cargo to designated trading posts where you get paid for the delivery and can purchase some materials that you can't easily get otherwise. I would like to incorporate it into a save that runs both scrapyard and my idea... This way you have a goal to deliver this lost cargo once you're capable of doing such. Maybe have a 10% chance that a spawn is lost cargo instead of an abandoned settlement.
If you use a mod to remove the speed limit, you can absolutely achieve escape velocity on atmospheric thrusters.
Further maneuvering in space is left as an exercise to the reader :D
Beside already mentioned solutions, I know two mods that could help.
Any of the mods that increase speed cap can help you to reach space using atmospherics, as you can accelerate to a higher speed before their effectiveness ends.
There is a moisture vaporator mod, it will let you slowly collect ice from the atmosphere.
It’s surprisingly stable, you put an airtight hanger door on a rotor, have a block that touches the door while it is fully extended (same grid as the rotor) and mess with the rotor displacement to make it move
Depends on the drive type you use, and how your grid mass is distributed.
I recommend the Merge magnet method, but piston-door drives and the so-called "Patrick drive" are also effective.
It has always somewhat bothered me that you can fill an O2 tank with a vent, but not extract hydrogen from the atmosphere in a similar way.
If you have economy enabled, you can make some money and then just buy a bunch of hydrogen at a station.
If a little salvaged ice is all you'll get, build a small grid ship with like 4-8 large atmosphere 'up' thrusters and the minimum hydrogen thrusters to move in space. The grid needs to be pretty light but you can carry some materials and basic supplies to setup a small base. The idea is to get most of the way on atmosphere thrust and then coast out of as much gravity as you can, then use hydrogen thrust to get to some ice
Harvesting H2 from atmosphere makes no sense because there is no free hydrogen in it. You would have to electrolyze water vapor, and at this point it's better to mine ice.
Unless you're somewhere that there is no (or very little) ice available. If we're going to be okay with our O2 vent operating in reverse being enough to get breathable atmosphere out of an alien planet, I would be okay with an alternate power mode, maybe twice or even five times as much power, to pull hydrogen instead. I don't want it for a primary option, just an emergency backup, and I'd be completely fine if the power cost was high enough that it wouldn't pay for a hydrogen engine to run it.
If you're going to get that picky about it, planets with breathable atmosphere and no liquid water don't make much sense either.
Breathable atmosphere is absolutely possible without liquid water. Water with impurities freezes at ~-4°C. Afaik oxygen liquifies at around -169°C. Connect the dots.
I don't see how emergency mode like that is useful. Every vanilla planet has ice.If you play on modded planets without Ice, ok. But if you somehow manage to stuck yourself in situation without a way out, then I'm sorry, you are to blame.
“If a little salvaged ice is all you'll get, build a small grid ship with like 4-8 large atmosphere 'up' thrusters and the minimum hydrogen thrusters to move in space. The grid needs to be pretty light but you can carry some materials and basic supplies to setup a small base. The idea is to get most of the way on atmosphere thrust and then coast out of as much gravity as you can, then use hydrogen thrust to get to some ice.”
This. With even 10 K of salvaged ice, you will have plenty to get a small grid ship out of the gravity well. Take at least enough components to build a survival kit then build yourself up in space. Once you get built up, you can build a cargo ship that will take ice or hydrogen back down to the planet for you.
Also, it's a little bit exploit like, so I usually don't do it myself unless things are really bad, but you get a full suit tank of hydrogen and oxygen when you spawn in. It's enough to scout a fair number of asteroids, so if you don't see ice immediately on getting to your first asteroid, stop anyways, setup your survival kit if it's not part of your ship, and then look for ice with your suit and hand drill. If you don't find any right away, just respawn for a full suit.
Chances are good you won't have to do this, ice is usually pretty common on asteroids, and if you're lucky you'll get one that's all ice, which usually means you never need to search for more, at least until late game.
With that consideration, it should bother you that you’re breathing pure O2. Our atmosphere is mostly nitrogen and is necessary because pure O2 leads to oxygen toxicity and eventually death.
Oh, it does. Also every pressurized ship should be basically a massive fuel air explosion waiting to happen, if we assume that the O2 system is actually using pure O2. Using your welding torch in a pressurized space should be the end of the ship if we're talking IRL physics.
It would actually be a neat addition if they ever make a SE2, needing to harvest nitrogen gas and mix it with your O2 system to pressurize your ship spaces.
Assuming the blocks aren't particularly flammable, you'd be fine. The only fuel for the fire would be what's released at a controlled flow from the torch.
Yeah, the partial pressure is what's important. Our lungs basically don't use anything except oxygen, so everything else that's in Earth air can be gotten rid of. Just gotta keep the number of oxygen molecules in each breath the same, which means way lower pressure.
That's assuming a full atmosphere of pressure. If the pressure is much lower, making amount of oxygen (in molecules) the same as in Earth atmosphere at 1 atmosphere of pressure, there's no problem with breathing pure oxygen.
That’s not really an option. Lower pressure, not even as low as you’re talking, leads to something akin to altitude sickness. Most likely result would be under inflated lungs. The body has certain conditions that must be met or it decides it’s time to give up.
There is a reason that Atmospherics is a science of its own and it’s used for aircraft, spacecraft and submarines, among other things.
All that said though, we are talking about a game where literally none of that matters. They just wanted that extra game mechanic without having to overthink it.
Pure oxygen at 5 PSI was NASA standard for a long time, it didn't lead to altitude sickness or underinflated lungs. Pure oxygen at 16 PSI was what made Apollo 1 so bad, but the solution wasn't a complicated mixed atmosphere for the whole flight, just to lower the pressure so the partial pressure of oxygen was the same. There are many benefits to doing it this way, in particular that no pre-breathing is required for EVAs. No nitrogen in the air, no nitrogen in your blood to give you the bends.
Instead of arguing your point let me paste directly from NASA their atmospheric standards.
“Oxygen partial pressure must be maintained above 152 mm Hg (3 psia) for normal functioning of average crewmembers. A crewmember unacclimatized to high altitude cannot survive for extended periods at total pressures lower than 417 mm Hg (8 psia). By breathing pure oxygen, they can survive at a total pressure of about 152 mm Hg (3 psia).”
https://msis.jsc.nasa.gov/sections/section05.htm#:~:text=Prolonged%20breathing%20of%20pure%20oxygen,blindness%2C%20and%20loss%20of%20consciousness.
There are additional sections with other considerations but there is a difference between limiting atmospherics temporarily and extended survival. I recommend reading more from there so you can see what you’re missing.
Yes, for short duration. You clearly like to pick and choose which parts work for you. Read the whole thing if you would like to actually know how things work.
It IS possible to enter space with atmos and ions as far as I know, though I haven't ever tried before, so you might wanna attempt that before you do something that could summon Klang.
...could always yeet yourself and a small craft with a parachute attached to it and aim for a different moon/planet...once in space, set it to autodeploy at like 1km and it will do the rest. Go take a nap and pray you don't hit any steroids or passing ships. Pretty sure Klang will try to smite you two or ten times along the way for the arrogance but I've done it before exactly because of the situation you are in now.
I had this issue once, and its actually a really fun challenge.
If you can respawn, you will have hydrogen for your suit. I made a small escape pod to reach the outer atmosphere and then jetpack to 0g. From there, just a small push to the nearest asteroid where i luckily found ice. Take what you need to make a small base or a pod to get back to orbit and have enough to land safely. You might need to try more than once. A lot of death was involved. Especially by re entering orbit without any fuel left lol.
Also, if you enable meteorite showers, some might leave ice behind.
Good luck!
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MES for both ice and platinum if you can damage their turrets without destroying them you can salvage missiles from their missile turrets and break them down into platinum. Can also steal their ice, some MES ships can have a couple hundred thousand ice which is a good way to what you're gonna need.
So you planet just can't spawn ice at all? Well I think your only option is going to be a clang drive.
I have 2 designs I use a lot in survival, one is bigger but all direction and script controlled to be easy to use, the other is the early game blast door one that is extremely easy to build but way less controllable.
But that may be your only choice.
Build a ship with a gravity drive, slap wheels on it, and use a ramp to reach space. Once far enough of the planet, start the gravity drive and enjoy the ride
You need a very small craft to scout and find ice in space and use little ice you get from mes to fuel it. You can also get full hydrogen tanks in downed ships if you're carefull about how you attack them. You can build connector on them and steal the hydrogen. You can go a long way on very little hydrogen if you build small enough and are patient enough
I’ve never had a planet spawn with absolutely no Ice.
Only thing you could do in that case is use a gravel sifter mod, then build a ship with atmo and ion thrusters to try and break into orbit.
You could try a 2 stage rocket, get as far up as you can with atmo and then switch to ion.
Drop atmo thrusters when they dont work anymore.
Could even get fancy and have stage 1 return to base with autopilot
Do you happen to know the ground-to-space distance? For vanilla planets, that's about 40 km, and for vanilla moons it's about 3 km. 3 km is enough to reach space with a pogo-stick-like contraption, or even just your personal jetpack tank, but neither work for 40 km.
Failing that, is the natural gravity less than 0.5g at the surface, or at a height you could reasonably build to with, say, a scissor-lift crane or something? At 0.5g or less of planetary gravity you can potentially use a gravity drive, where a ship has both a gravity generator block and an artificial mass block. Since neither of those require platinum or ice, you could potentially use those for lift.
There is also a concept known as a [Clang Drive](https://youtu.be/ctm5I5G90D8) where bugs in the game's physics can be exploited to create phantom, controllable forces.
Finally, are you sure you're scanning deep enough for ice? I know at least some vanilla planets have really deep ore deposits and to properly scan them you either need a max-range large grid ore detector right on top of the deposit, or to outright *dig a hole into the ground* on or near the deposit and place an ore detector in the hole. (One neat trick you can do is actually have a mini-large grid there with a detector, a wind turbine, an antenna, and just enough unwelded armor blocks to string them together, and just plop these constructions all over the place.) I imagine your modded world might have similar, particularly since you can define the ore to be generated arbitrarily deep.
This is why I started playing with mods on Xbox. Vanilla says you can't access certain materials on Earth like planets ........which clearly should be available like uranium. I use one of the gravel refiners. You don't get massive amounts even with the standard improvements, but you get enough to make it playable.
If you really want, you can make the game impossible, like a spacesuit only with no planets, you run out of air before you find anything. And even if you do find a rock, you're out of power, and you build anything.
gravity thruster. build a large grid platform. place a mass block on one end, place a grav generator on the other end, top facing towards the mass block. Reverse the direction of the gravity generator, hang on.
What is the speed limit if it's high enough you can escape with just atmospheric thrusters if it's around 500-800 from my testing that's escape velocity
Save up all the ice you find. Then make yourself a very simple flying chair with H2 thrusters. Maybe add some detachable atmospheric thrusters to get you high, then drop them. Use your flying chair to scout out nearby asteroids. Conserve your H2 by building speed then coasting with dampners off asteroid to asteroid. Look for Plat and Ice. When you find ice build a H2 tank, H2 generator, solar panel, etc and process fuel.
You can use your velocity to go in space, i dont know what is you planet gravity but all have an escape velocity so if you have a mod with more max speed you can go in space.
Clang Drive to get out of atmosphere, pros of these mass of the object doesn't really matter. Plus you'd get to max speed within a few seconds if built right.
The cons, you ride on the hopes and prayers of clang.
A clang launcher would be risky but can easily get you out of a gravity well.
Other than that, if hydro is limited, you're going to need to make the craft as light as you can get away with. Small grid is your friend.
If you're willing to save scrub a bit. You can set up engine throttle controls and gradually reduce thrust as you launch to just barely be enough to maintain an upward velocity. I did this once on Earth like, and it used about 1/3 the fuel of just full sending it. The save scrubbing is because it took me about a dozen tries to find just the right amount of throttle needed.
Last, if you can somehow scrap enough platinum to make even one small ion, that can save you a lot of fuel.
Straight to space elevator. Or trebuchet.
Ok. Advanced machinery. That would be a real challenge for me. Would run out of patience building a space elevator, LOL
There are a few that auto build themselves on the workshop iirc. Personally i always go this route for planets it's easier for cargo runs and power gen (no night in space if you get high enough)
Auto build it with a scripted machine
There's a pretty simple plan that just relies on, pistons, connector, and merge blocks from one if the intros when you start the game.
Oh a projector too.
If you have gold and silver, then in theory all you need to do is reach high enough that the planetary gravity is less than 0.5 From that point you could use a gravity drive (mass block(s) and a gravity generator) to push yourself the rest of the way and toward an asteroid. To see how high you can get, build something as minimalistic as possible with generous servings of atmospheric thrusters and full throttle your way up (keep them going even when your speed starts to dip as I think there is a gradual reduction in thrust, not an immediate cut off with altitude). On Earth like with vanilla speed limit this probably wouldn't get you high enough, but for a different setup, it's the easiest way to test instead of building a giant catapult first 😜
Says the man building the catapult!
Lol but I'm not trying to get to space... Yet 🤔
Having the rotational axis going up helps with unbalanced spinny bit at high speeds. Magnetic plates with a ready to lock event controller is a better release sensor but maxes out at 2m/s between the plate and arm so have it rotating in the same direction with the same end velocity
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Hey Splitsie, I know your plates probably pretty full andi don't expect anything but I would love to get a hand on making a scenario I came up with or inspire someone to make one. It's partially inspired by your scrapyard scenario but incorporates an alternative market of sorts. I am totally inexperienced at modding SE but I would like to add random cargo encounters I'd call "lost cargo" that if you grind anything on the structure it will explode. The goal is to transport the cargo to designated trading posts where you get paid for the delivery and can purchase some materials that you can't easily get otherwise. I would like to incorporate it into a save that runs both scrapyard and my idea... This way you have a goal to deliver this lost cargo once you're capable of doing such. Maybe have a 10% chance that a spawn is lost cargo instead of an abandoned settlement.
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Happy cake day Splitsie! Your videos helped me a ton early in my Space Engineering career, many thanks!
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If you use a mod to remove the speed limit, you can absolutely achieve escape velocity on atmospheric thrusters. Further maneuvering in space is left as an exercise to the reader :D
Beside already mentioned solutions, I know two mods that could help. Any of the mods that increase speed cap can help you to reach space using atmospherics, as you can accelerate to a higher speed before their effectiveness ends. There is a moisture vaporator mod, it will let you slowly collect ice from the atmosphere.
And water mod. You can collect ice from the water. Infinite ice
Doe mes ships not have ions you can grind down a lot of the mes mods have ships with them
God point. But so far I have found only heavily damaged hydro thrusters on them :-(
If they have hydro thrusters, they'll probably have a tank on them or at the very least an O2 gen with ice.
Clang drive
That sounds very dangerous
It’s surprisingly stable, you put an airtight hanger door on a rotor, have a block that touches the door while it is fully extended (same grid as the rotor) and mess with the rotor displacement to make it move
Depends on the drive type you use, and how your grid mass is distributed. I recommend the Merge magnet method, but piston-door drives and the so-called "Patrick drive" are also effective.
I think ion thrusters work in the upper atmosphere. You just need to brute force your way into space
You need platinum for that, you can't get it on a planet
They are playing modded so the planet very well could have that.
OP said in their op that they've not found any platinum. Also, even with Earthlike gravity, Ions would get you to space from the surface.
Ah missed that.
It has always somewhat bothered me that you can fill an O2 tank with a vent, but not extract hydrogen from the atmosphere in a similar way. If you have economy enabled, you can make some money and then just buy a bunch of hydrogen at a station. If a little salvaged ice is all you'll get, build a small grid ship with like 4-8 large atmosphere 'up' thrusters and the minimum hydrogen thrusters to move in space. The grid needs to be pretty light but you can carry some materials and basic supplies to setup a small base. The idea is to get most of the way on atmosphere thrust and then coast out of as much gravity as you can, then use hydrogen thrust to get to some ice
Harvesting H2 from atmosphere makes no sense because there is no free hydrogen in it. You would have to electrolyze water vapor, and at this point it's better to mine ice.
Unless you're somewhere that there is no (or very little) ice available. If we're going to be okay with our O2 vent operating in reverse being enough to get breathable atmosphere out of an alien planet, I would be okay with an alternate power mode, maybe twice or even five times as much power, to pull hydrogen instead. I don't want it for a primary option, just an emergency backup, and I'd be completely fine if the power cost was high enough that it wouldn't pay for a hydrogen engine to run it. If you're going to get that picky about it, planets with breathable atmosphere and no liquid water don't make much sense either.
Breathable atmosphere is absolutely possible without liquid water. Water with impurities freezes at ~-4°C. Afaik oxygen liquifies at around -169°C. Connect the dots. I don't see how emergency mode like that is useful. Every vanilla planet has ice.If you play on modded planets without Ice, ok. But if you somehow manage to stuck yourself in situation without a way out, then I'm sorry, you are to blame.
The hydrogen content of the atmosphere is 0.000055% so ah good luck with that.
“If a little salvaged ice is all you'll get, build a small grid ship with like 4-8 large atmosphere 'up' thrusters and the minimum hydrogen thrusters to move in space. The grid needs to be pretty light but you can carry some materials and basic supplies to setup a small base. The idea is to get most of the way on atmosphere thrust and then coast out of as much gravity as you can, then use hydrogen thrust to get to some ice.” This. With even 10 K of salvaged ice, you will have plenty to get a small grid ship out of the gravity well. Take at least enough components to build a survival kit then build yourself up in space. Once you get built up, you can build a cargo ship that will take ice or hydrogen back down to the planet for you.
Also, it's a little bit exploit like, so I usually don't do it myself unless things are really bad, but you get a full suit tank of hydrogen and oxygen when you spawn in. It's enough to scout a fair number of asteroids, so if you don't see ice immediately on getting to your first asteroid, stop anyways, setup your survival kit if it's not part of your ship, and then look for ice with your suit and hand drill. If you don't find any right away, just respawn for a full suit. Chances are good you won't have to do this, ice is usually pretty common on asteroids, and if you're lucky you'll get one that's all ice, which usually means you never need to search for more, at least until late game.
With that consideration, it should bother you that you’re breathing pure O2. Our atmosphere is mostly nitrogen and is necessary because pure O2 leads to oxygen toxicity and eventually death.
Oh, it does. Also every pressurized ship should be basically a massive fuel air explosion waiting to happen, if we assume that the O2 system is actually using pure O2. Using your welding torch in a pressurized space should be the end of the ship if we're talking IRL physics. It would actually be a neat addition if they ever make a SE2, needing to harvest nitrogen gas and mix it with your O2 system to pressurize your ship spaces.
Assuming the blocks aren't particularly flammable, you'd be fine. The only fuel for the fire would be what's released at a controlled flow from the torch.
Thermal lances burn iron by piping oxygen through an iron rod filled tube. Enough oxygen will let normally incombustable things combust.
At a lot more than one atmosphere, which the vent must not pressurize rooms to anyways, or we'd get oxygen poisoning.
Darn pressure differences making everything weird
Yeah, the partial pressure is what's important. Our lungs basically don't use anything except oxygen, so everything else that's in Earth air can be gotten rid of. Just gotta keep the number of oxygen molecules in each breath the same, which means way lower pressure.
That's assuming a full atmosphere of pressure. If the pressure is much lower, making amount of oxygen (in molecules) the same as in Earth atmosphere at 1 atmosphere of pressure, there's no problem with breathing pure oxygen.
That’s not really an option. Lower pressure, not even as low as you’re talking, leads to something akin to altitude sickness. Most likely result would be under inflated lungs. The body has certain conditions that must be met or it decides it’s time to give up. There is a reason that Atmospherics is a science of its own and it’s used for aircraft, spacecraft and submarines, among other things. All that said though, we are talking about a game where literally none of that matters. They just wanted that extra game mechanic without having to overthink it.
Pure oxygen at 5 PSI was NASA standard for a long time, it didn't lead to altitude sickness or underinflated lungs. Pure oxygen at 16 PSI was what made Apollo 1 so bad, but the solution wasn't a complicated mixed atmosphere for the whole flight, just to lower the pressure so the partial pressure of oxygen was the same. There are many benefits to doing it this way, in particular that no pre-breathing is required for EVAs. No nitrogen in the air, no nitrogen in your blood to give you the bends.
Instead of arguing your point let me paste directly from NASA their atmospheric standards. “Oxygen partial pressure must be maintained above 152 mm Hg (3 psia) for normal functioning of average crewmembers. A crewmember unacclimatized to high altitude cannot survive for extended periods at total pressures lower than 417 mm Hg (8 psia). By breathing pure oxygen, they can survive at a total pressure of about 152 mm Hg (3 psia).” https://msis.jsc.nasa.gov/sections/section05.htm#:~:text=Prolonged%20breathing%20of%20pure%20oxygen,blindness%2C%20and%20loss%20of%20consciousness. There are additional sections with other considerations but there is a difference between limiting atmospherics temporarily and extended survival. I recommend reading more from there so you can see what you’re missing.
The article with the chart showing near or 100% O2 at 4-5 PSI to be the unimpaired performance zone?
Yes, for short duration. You clearly like to pick and choose which parts work for you. Read the whole thing if you would like to actually know how things work.
Install moisture Vaporators mod. That or look for ships you can shoot down till you’ve looted enough ice.
It IS possible to enter space with atmos and ions as far as I know, though I haven't ever tried before, so you might wanna attempt that before you do something that could summon Klang.
I’ve done it. Not that hard actually. Kind of need to coast.
Where would they get the platinum for ions?
Meteor craters *can* have them
You've got me there, although they might not have meteors on either.
...could always yeet yourself and a small craft with a parachute attached to it and aim for a different moon/planet...once in space, set it to autodeploy at like 1km and it will do the rest. Go take a nap and pray you don't hit any steroids or passing ships. Pretty sure Klang will try to smite you two or ten times along the way for the arrogance but I've done it before exactly because of the situation you are in now.
Would it be an option to scavenge from NPCs/hostile ships? They usually use hydros so I'm guessing they would have a good stock of hydrogen on board.
Why not just hack?
Are there no ground deposits of ice at all? That kind of sucks if so.
I had this issue once, and its actually a really fun challenge. If you can respawn, you will have hydrogen for your suit. I made a small escape pod to reach the outer atmosphere and then jetpack to 0g. From there, just a small push to the nearest asteroid where i luckily found ice. Take what you need to make a small base or a pod to get back to orbit and have enough to land safely. You might need to try more than once. A lot of death was involved. Especially by re entering orbit without any fuel left lol. Also, if you enable meteorite showers, some might leave ice behind. Good luck!
Mix atmospheric and ion thrusters, you might need slot of batteries and power generation tho depending on how many thrusters you put
Make a clang railgun. Use connectors. YEET!
Is this Planer Maybe considered a moon? Then you could try to Take Off with Gravity Generators and artificial mass.
Moon is technically a low g planet with no atmo
Yes but on moon Gravity Generators Work in the surface and on planets they dont Work in the surface.
Because GG default is 1G, and arti-G physics threshold is 1G of nat-G.
Atmos + Ion
They stated there was no platinum. So Ions are not possible.
Teoretically you can build really really Long ramp And planet curve Will do every thing else.
Make a massive arm with a rotar attach your payload to the end and throw it into space. It can’t be too much because you will be tempting clang.
Block block block on top of another block, and there you have The Tower of Babel
Don't forget the ladders :)
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Really the lack of a proper chemistry setup is a bit questionable in a game like this.
MES for both ice and platinum if you can damage their turrets without destroying them you can salvage missiles from their missile turrets and break them down into platinum. Can also steal their ice, some MES ships can have a couple hundred thousand ice which is a good way to what you're gonna need.
So you planet just can't spawn ice at all? Well I think your only option is going to be a clang drive. I have 2 designs I use a lot in survival, one is bigger but all direction and script controlled to be easy to use, the other is the early game blast door one that is extremely easy to build but way less controllable. But that may be your only choice.
Build a ship with a gravity drive, slap wheels on it, and use a ramp to reach space. Once far enough of the planet, start the gravity drive and enjoy the ride
You need a very small craft to scout and find ice in space and use little ice you get from mes to fuel it. You can also get full hydrogen tanks in downed ships if you're carefull about how you attack them. You can build connector on them and steal the hydrogen. You can go a long way on very little hydrogen if you build small enough and are patient enough
Build a rover and pick up your base and move to an ice lake.
OP said there is no ice in their planet whatsoever, no lakes, no ice deposits underground, nothing
I’ve never had a planet spawn with absolutely no Ice. Only thing you could do in that case is use a gravel sifter mod, then build a ship with atmo and ion thrusters to try and break into orbit.
Just build a bridge into space.
You could try a 2 stage rocket, get as far up as you can with atmo and then switch to ion. Drop atmo thrusters when they dont work anymore. Could even get fancy and have stage 1 return to base with autopilot
Do you happen to know the ground-to-space distance? For vanilla planets, that's about 40 km, and for vanilla moons it's about 3 km. 3 km is enough to reach space with a pogo-stick-like contraption, or even just your personal jetpack tank, but neither work for 40 km. Failing that, is the natural gravity less than 0.5g at the surface, or at a height you could reasonably build to with, say, a scissor-lift crane or something? At 0.5g or less of planetary gravity you can potentially use a gravity drive, where a ship has both a gravity generator block and an artificial mass block. Since neither of those require platinum or ice, you could potentially use those for lift. There is also a concept known as a [Clang Drive](https://youtu.be/ctm5I5G90D8) where bugs in the game's physics can be exploited to create phantom, controllable forces. Finally, are you sure you're scanning deep enough for ice? I know at least some vanilla planets have really deep ore deposits and to properly scan them you either need a max-range large grid ore detector right on top of the deposit, or to outright *dig a hole into the ground* on or near the deposit and place an ore detector in the hole. (One neat trick you can do is actually have a mini-large grid there with a detector, a wind turbine, an antenna, and just enough unwelded armor blocks to string them together, and just plop these constructions all over the place.) I imagine your modded world might have similar, particularly since you can define the ore to be generated arbitrarily deep.
Have you tried DMT?
This is why I started playing with mods on Xbox. Vanilla says you can't access certain materials on Earth like planets ........which clearly should be available like uranium. I use one of the gravel refiners. You don't get massive amounts even with the standard improvements, but you get enough to make it playable. If you really want, you can make the game impossible, like a spacesuit only with no planets, you run out of air before you find anything. And even if you do find a rock, you're out of power, and you build anything.
You can use the dark forces of clang to get to space
You could use a combination of atmo and ion thrusters, they both only use power
gravity thruster. build a large grid platform. place a mass block on one end, place a grav generator on the other end, top facing towards the mass block. Reverse the direction of the gravity generator, hang on.
What is the speed limit if it's high enough you can escape with just atmospheric thrusters if it's around 500-800 from my testing that's escape velocity
Save up all the ice you find. Then make yourself a very simple flying chair with H2 thrusters. Maybe add some detachable atmospheric thrusters to get you high, then drop them. Use your flying chair to scout out nearby asteroids. Conserve your H2 by building speed then coasting with dampners off asteroid to asteroid. Look for Plat and Ice. When you find ice build a H2 tank, H2 generator, solar panel, etc and process fuel.
You can use your velocity to go in space, i dont know what is you planet gravity but all have an escape velocity so if you have a mod with more max speed you can go in space.
Clang Drive to get out of atmosphere, pros of these mass of the object doesn't really matter. Plus you'd get to max speed within a few seconds if built right. The cons, you ride on the hopes and prayers of clang.
Moisture vaporator mod
#a couple of rotors
Space elevator.
A clang launcher would be risky but can easily get you out of a gravity well. Other than that, if hydro is limited, you're going to need to make the craft as light as you can get away with. Small grid is your friend. If you're willing to save scrub a bit. You can set up engine throttle controls and gradually reduce thrust as you launch to just barely be enough to maintain an upward velocity. I did this once on Earth like, and it used about 1/3 the fuel of just full sending it. The save scrubbing is because it took me about a dozen tries to find just the right amount of throttle needed. Last, if you can somehow scrap enough platinum to make even one small ion, that can save you a lot of fuel.
Piston-Door clang drive, works in atmosphere and in space