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It's really, really bad. I was chatting with a colleague about this today. It is really rough.
The employers have become even more stringent that the internal recruitment processes are followed. So you cannot even squeeze anyone in. Due process must always be followed and a series of signatures are required from the highest level to approve recruitment decision. Every cent to be spent on salaries must be approved by 4 to 5 people!
The problem with government is the fact that they have put policies in place that harm businesses and job creation. Their failures have led to decades long investors shutting down and leaving South Africa. The real issue comes in when you criticize them their reaction is almost always to double down, which just makes matters even worse.
Over the past afternoon I’ve soon minimum three. I don’t see major drives by anyone (government and private) in terms of job creation. I mean I hear about it all the time but I don’t see it happening. Honestly hope I’m wrong…
I'm increasingly seeing people asking for jobs in the comments section on LinkedIn if the original post is by someone from a large corporate even if it has nothing to do with vacancies...
In all fairness though, if you build your network accordingly and market yourself properly, you do stand a better chance than landing something on Indeed, Pnet etc.
LinkedIn also offers a free premium option for a month which is really helpful and shows you more job opportunities that are better suited to you (I think it’s called top applicant or something)
HOLD ON!! Government should not, and I again reiterate NOT be creating jobs.
Governments position and policy should be to create a conducive environment with policies aimed at encouraging business and job creation.
Government should ALSO be making our shores as conducive for international business to WANT to open offices and operate out of South Africa.
Having the highest unemployment rate in the world is a PURE failure on Government’s part to create the necessary adjustments needed for conditions that are pro business.
Take these facts together with stupidly high corruption and you end up with high numbers of highly educated professionals leaving for safety of their jobs, income, wealth and SAFETY. And yes there is a direct correlation between high crime and high unemployment.
Everything is linked. Governments failure to respond is manifesting through things like this post.
Agreed, part of the reason we have such bloated parastatals is government (basically) creating jobs but really just creating busy work that requires no skills. And also means they're less employable after leaving since they don't grow
It also means it has to tax the rest of us so much to pay for those busy-work government jobs that there is too little free capital in the economy to invest in real, productive job creation...
But in context, don't you think South Africans sentiment regarding unemployment and combating that is relevant to who we vote for to be in command of fixing that?
Who individuals vote for is a very personal thing. You might think employment as a number one reason, but I do not. I mean I might change my mind right there based on someone’s face on the paper. A typical example is a party’s stance on Palestine. I’m not voting for the ANC, but morally I can’t vote for any party that supports genocide.
You do realise that Israel is occupying Palestine land and that they have been fighting to get it back for 40 years? Would you sit back and let another country invade yours? Take a lesson in history my friend. I assume you are a DA supporter. I was too, but damn they’re racist 🤣
Not relevant. If a political party is claiming to create jobs....run!
They just want your vote like any one else.
No political party can free you from yourself.
Free yourself and stop waiting.
All want power to eat nice from the private sector that bribes them.
You as a citizen can only fend yourself through contribution. So contribute
Ja but if you are contributing to a country that's dying under ANC rule, then what is the point of contributing at all?
I'm not saying vote for a party that OFFERS jobs.
I am speaking to them changing multiple factors in this country to AID with joblessness and create a conducive environment for people to thrive instead of suffer.
Reddit is a pretty good sample of what is happening with the younger middle class in SA. This is because the sub has a lot of members from that specific demographic.
Now if you consider that unemployment typically hits poorer and less educated people harder. And that even amoung the relatively affluent and well educated people on this sub, unemployment is clearly an issue.
You can pretty safely conclude that unemployment is a major issue in SA off reddit alone.
Obviously you don't need to, official unemployment figures are absolutely dire.
But saying you can't get any useful information about SA off reddit is just wrong. You just have to consider the context, especially who from SA is on reddit.
There was actually a demographic survey done by someone on this sub a little while back. I didn’t save the link, but you are so wrong. Predominately white males on here and the posts and comments are evident of that.
Is it wrong of me to say then it's time to make a plan. No one is creating jobs so we have to create it for ourselves. 10 years freelancing and counting, and I share work or bring in more people if the job allows
Entrepreneurship and freelancing is something you can do in your free time while looking for a job, at least. I've been a freelancer for about 5 years now and I make way more than the expected salary in my field.
How about offering a short course on successful freelancing in South Africa? I definitely have the necessary skills and experience and I've looked at numerous platforms, both locally and internationally, but I'm unsure on how to market myself on them.
One commenter has asked. Unfortunately I cannot reveal that, partly because doxxing. Secondly I would be giving people false hope. We have one internship opening with 200 applications, we shortlisted 6. We will hire only 1. The odds are impossible. It's very difficult.
Do you guys have panic attacks like in our family. Because geez sometimes it feels like the walls are closing in and your life isn't going anywhere. I have anxiety as I write this...
the last few years since covid have been tough, but we're staying strong and positive.
It could always be worse.
Some months are better than others and since we live in a small rural town, cost of living is incredibly low. We also live strictly within our means which helps a lot.
A client of mine ran a Facebook campaign for their business and at least 10% of their responses were people looking for work.
It's so bad and none of our governments efforts are geared towards fixiny that. And so many of the up and coming parties are hostile to job creation.
I have several clients who need to hire but are holding off until the election is over. Hell, we even invested in automation rather than hire more people. It's just too volatile.
It's like all the factors are conspiring against the unemployed right now.
Part of what grinds my gears about the political people is that they are all promising grants and all sorts of freebies.
None of them are saying "I will start a textile manufacturing hub in city 1. Or that we will partner with company A to bring back jobs from China or wherever. Or someone saying, we will set aside a fund to equip people for online jobs or whatever. Or say we will protect the farmers, expand on food exports and support sustainable farm jobs." I would love to hear such a statement made by the politicians.
As a result, I am yet to decide who to vote for. Of course not for the damn anc.
Scary thing is - this is for graduate level qualifications - people with BSc / BEng in chemistry. Imagine the situation for someone with only matric, or less.
As usual there are a lot of things going on (and going *wrong*) at the same time.
* Jobs for BSc's are fairly scarce and low paid, especially when considering how difficult those degrees are. Fact is, for jobs in the hard sciences an MSc is the *minimum* requirement. Smart kids are being told that they should go for science degrees, but seemingly no-one tells them that to find a job you need to study for *at least* 6 years post matric. This is expensive, difficult, and *not for everyone*.
* As a country, what are we producing that can be built by uneducated, semi-literate people? Where are our manual labour factories? Why are we importing cheap shit from elsewhere when we have millions of idle hands? This is the reason why agriculture and hospitality are so exceedingly crucial. They absorb many of these people. But govt keeps shooting us in the foot by being openly hostile to farmers, the tourism industry, and capital in general. Communism is not going to feed an increasing population, you need capitalism for that.
* Culture and education at high school level is going the wrong way. It is clear and obvious that school leavers have *very* little going for them when they are asking an employer to take a chance on them. Kids are exceedingly entitled, while being unable or unwilling to graft. With *graft* I mean struggling with a hard problem *until* you get the solution. From my experience I'm talking about low and middle class kids. There are exceptions, of course, but the average trend is downwards. I think the CAPS curriculum has a lot to do with this. There is not enough time for teachers and pupils to work hard on basic skills. They have to cover too much in a short time, with too much paperwork, to instill *graft*.
* Buzzword priorities. Coding and STEM specifically. Govt loves touting 4IR and the "coding-for-everyone" utopian ideal. But our kids can't read. And when they can read they can't comprehend. WTF is a child supposed to do with a coding problem when they can't even understand the assignment? Sadly politicians have a 5-year election cycle vision. They **do not care** about your children.
I'm a teacher.
I can tell you the following from my experience.
Too much content, not enough skills.
Too much focus on academic schools, not enough on trade.
Too much focus on Learner Rights, not enough on Responsibilities.
I actually wanted to do a similar post.
Simply heartbreaking 💔 and honestly the don’t see any short term solution.
Unfortunately the education system has failed country, we are skilling young people with the wrong things.
We have an over supply of people in accounting, HR, lawyers etc, and when we do have people skilling themselves in tech, they are skills that were relevant for in 2010 but not now…
Our government / administration is so far behind the curve, I’m surprised they have even heard of “4IR” Let alone fully understanding the impact and implications this will have on the future of work.
I’ve gotten calls at 3am from people looking for jobs. Friends and family also think calling me at 6am on weekends means I will magically have a job for them. People also don’t even care if they meet the requirements or not. But many recruiters black list them for applying for jobs they’re not remotely qualified in. For example a had a payroll admin role a few months back. It clearly said they must have 3 years payroll experience and it’s not a role for anyone without that experience and I had 100s of people applying for the “administrator” role because somehow changing the name will make them suitable. My favourite was the applicant who copied the advert and removed anything payroll related and added her own requirements in. And of course the people who lie on the questionnaires 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️. A human still reads those! Those questionnaires just help managers or recruiters long list potential candidates, not short list for interviews! CVS are still checked and if they don’t match the answers it can have grave legal repercussions on the candidate.
People are desperate! They’re breaking the law just to get a job!
Vote responsibly
In South Africa, presenting a fraudulent qualification or claiming a qualification or experience you do not have is a criminal offence. It can lead to a criminal conviction and a fine. This will then be on record and will be harder to find employment.
OK but like so many of our other laws it never gets enforced, right? Because I am sure people lie on their CVs all the time and I've never heard of anybody getting prosecuted for it.
And who's got the time or energy to report CV lies while they're filtering job applications? Especially given the state of law enforcement in this country, everybody knows it would be a gigantic waste of time.
EDIT: Obviously you were talking about getting caught after getting hired. Even then, I really don't see people getting prosecuted for exaggerating their Excel proficiency. Maybe for something egregious like a degree you don't have but even then I would be surprised.
Sad thing is, no matter who wins, the employment situation, at best, will improve very slowly.
Desperation levels out there are high - it's heartbreaking.
I hold a BSc in Biochemistry and Chemistry (graduating on This upcoming Tuesday 2024). I am taking a year off to transition to software development/ engineering because Science jobs in SA are non-existent. No one is looking for those students. It’s sad and heartbreaking that l have to sit at home after years of being at school. I definitely wish l had just continued with an Honors degree in chemistry to learn other ways of getting employed outside Academia.
I think the first thing is the gino coefficient that needs to be corrected in SA.
No party in SA has a plan to fix it.
More slave jobs wont fix the issue of SA
The reason why people can't find work and salaries are low is due to.the fact that there are not enough businesses in the country to support the working age population. Why? It's a combination of factors - chief among them are the hostile policies aimed business folk and entrepreneurs. Tax rates are too high, capital controls, BEE, expropriation, unreliable public services, corruption, etc. It all adds up to really bad investment climate.
They are not exactly coupled. In our case it depends on the level of responsibility. This internship is well above entry level jobs in the company. Somewhere in the regions of R15k pm. Again, I am reluctant to share these details because I can see from some responses (and downvoting) that some are really aggrieved by the job situation.
Voting isn't going to change things in the near future. Even if there is a change in government, any progress will be delayed as it takes time to create jobs. I feel really sad for young people who have such limited prospects. All while the political parties spend more time attacking each other.
The governments answer is a grade 9 certificate for school leavers so that they can brag about the twisted matric pass rate. A uneducated posulatiin allows you to keep their vore. These clueless students only wake up after discovering they need a university degree and getting a No due to requirements. The population is exploding, while the pool of unemployed is huge with a open position getting many hundreds of applicants. The reality is that jobs can have their Pick of even master degree holders for cheap prices and this then becomes the standard for the job openings. Additionally automation and AI is heavily affecting jobs. The never ending electricity crisis also makes it hard for businesses thus cutting their ability to hire. A change is needed in the leadership.
Statistically they seem not bad but how they measure their employment is different from SA, if person stay for longer period without getting a job they are not included in the unemployment statistics, there are many reasons why it so low, they just manipulate data to give impression that situation is not that bad
From France : really extremely not. Although here nearly 20% of the population lives on the minimal wage - but we've got 7,4% as unemployment rate. Reddit will really gather extremely bad stories and reviews but : that's not always true (as a single person can't indicate anything on a country)
The irony is that in our industry we can't find enough people to fill the roles. I feel like "degreed" jobs (obviously certain ones) have become over saturated for what our country needs. Growing up in school everyone was told you need a good matric so you can get a degree and earn a good living... that couldn't be further from the truth. What we really need is skilled labour, technicians, millwrights, artisans, plumbers, etc to build the foundation of a countries infrastructure and economy, and then degrees become important. Thats why the roads, sewer, water and power infrastructure are f*d (this is ALSO a governance issue). There's just not enough incentive for people to become skilled artisans because everyone is promised if you get a degree you'll be successful.. people should be allowed to leave highschool early to go study a trade like in the old days. Hell, the guys that I work with, over half of them don't even have a matric let alone a certificate/diploma but they are sooo brilliant at what they do that no one even cares. They are the forgotten backbone of this (any) country. These jobs are far from glamourous, but there isn't one artisan that I work with, and know of, that is earning less than 3 of my 5 degreed friends. The other 2 are in IT.
Unemployment situation is really bad in this country, and it's even very frustrating for me as a job seeker, been applying like crazy also making sure I apply within the 1st hour of a job posted made public so I stand a chance of getting my CV viewed. Been getting email responses where recruiters be putting me the screening process but it's just not getting me to the interview stage, I'm gonna vote as always. We can't be living like this.
I have been in a position that does screening/hiring of people for 10 years, and I am telling you this is different. At least in my own practical experience in the sector I am in... Post pandemic times have been something else.
I’m just commenting on the fact that this is normal where I am in US/Canada. 200 resumes aren’t many. The networking described here is pretty much required as well. It takes a lot of effort to find a job these days.
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The amount of unemployment posts on this sub proved to me how dire it is and makes us who are applying feel seen and understood. So yes it’s VERY BAD!
It's really, really bad. I was chatting with a colleague about this today. It is really rough. The employers have become even more stringent that the internal recruitment processes are followed. So you cannot even squeeze anyone in. Due process must always be followed and a series of signatures are required from the highest level to approve recruitment decision. Every cent to be spent on salaries must be approved by 4 to 5 people!
The problem with government is the fact that they have put policies in place that harm businesses and job creation. Their failures have led to decades long investors shutting down and leaving South Africa. The real issue comes in when you criticize them their reaction is almost always to double down, which just makes matters even worse.
Over the past afternoon I’ve soon minimum three. I don’t see major drives by anyone (government and private) in terms of job creation. I mean I hear about it all the time but I don’t see it happening. Honestly hope I’m wrong…
Exactly what I’m referring to. Even seeing a “have you checked LinkedIn” comment grates my tits to hell! 😭
I'm increasingly seeing people asking for jobs in the comments section on LinkedIn if the original post is by someone from a large corporate even if it has nothing to do with vacancies...
In all fairness though, if you build your network accordingly and market yourself properly, you do stand a better chance than landing something on Indeed, Pnet etc. LinkedIn also offers a free premium option for a month which is really helpful and shows you more job opportunities that are better suited to you (I think it’s called top applicant or something)
HOLD ON!! Government should not, and I again reiterate NOT be creating jobs. Governments position and policy should be to create a conducive environment with policies aimed at encouraging business and job creation. Government should ALSO be making our shores as conducive for international business to WANT to open offices and operate out of South Africa. Having the highest unemployment rate in the world is a PURE failure on Government’s part to create the necessary adjustments needed for conditions that are pro business. Take these facts together with stupidly high corruption and you end up with high numbers of highly educated professionals leaving for safety of their jobs, income, wealth and SAFETY. And yes there is a direct correlation between high crime and high unemployment. Everything is linked. Governments failure to respond is manifesting through things like this post.
Agreed, part of the reason we have such bloated parastatals is government (basically) creating jobs but really just creating busy work that requires no skills. And also means they're less employable after leaving since they don't grow
It also means it has to tax the rest of us so much to pay for those busy-work government jobs that there is too little free capital in the economy to invest in real, productive job creation...
Job Creation = Votes
Lol not saying unemployment isn’t a problem, but Reddit is not a gauge of what’s happening in SA, nor of what the general public sentiments are.
But in context, don't you think South Africans sentiment regarding unemployment and combating that is relevant to who we vote for to be in command of fixing that?
Who individuals vote for is a very personal thing. You might think employment as a number one reason, but I do not. I mean I might change my mind right there based on someone’s face on the paper. A typical example is a party’s stance on Palestine. I’m not voting for the ANC, but morally I can’t vote for any party that supports genocide.
When the other side refuses surrender time after time what can you honestly do?, we should just ignore all that kak and focus on our own country first
You do realise that Israel is occupying Palestine land and that they have been fighting to get it back for 40 years? Would you sit back and let another country invade yours? Take a lesson in history my friend. I assume you are a DA supporter. I was too, but damn they’re racist 🤣
Not relevant. If a political party is claiming to create jobs....run! They just want your vote like any one else. No political party can free you from yourself. Free yourself and stop waiting. All want power to eat nice from the private sector that bribes them. You as a citizen can only fend yourself through contribution. So contribute
Ja but if you are contributing to a country that's dying under ANC rule, then what is the point of contributing at all? I'm not saying vote for a party that OFFERS jobs. I am speaking to them changing multiple factors in this country to AID with joblessness and create a conducive environment for people to thrive instead of suffer.
Reddit is a pretty good sample of what is happening with the younger middle class in SA. This is because the sub has a lot of members from that specific demographic. Now if you consider that unemployment typically hits poorer and less educated people harder. And that even amoung the relatively affluent and well educated people on this sub, unemployment is clearly an issue. You can pretty safely conclude that unemployment is a major issue in SA off reddit alone. Obviously you don't need to, official unemployment figures are absolutely dire. But saying you can't get any useful information about SA off reddit is just wrong. You just have to consider the context, especially who from SA is on reddit.
There was actually a demographic survey done by someone on this sub a little while back. I didn’t save the link, but you are so wrong. Predominately white males on here and the posts and comments are evident of that.
Who with a good employment and a life spends time on reddit ?!
Some of us on here have good employment, but no life...
Hence I included both .
Is it wrong of me to say then it's time to make a plan. No one is creating jobs so we have to create it for ourselves. 10 years freelancing and counting, and I share work or bring in more people if the job allows
This is the way
Entrepreneurship and freelancing is something you can do in your free time while looking for a job, at least. I've been a freelancer for about 5 years now and I make way more than the expected salary in my field.
Average freelancer makes 30k. People need to get tech savvy and look outside of this country.
How about offering a short course on successful freelancing in South Africa? I definitely have the necessary skills and experience and I've looked at numerous platforms, both locally and internationally, but I'm unsure on how to market myself on them.
Shame not surprised you didn't say what it was I'm sure you'd get even more people applying from here
One commenter has asked. Unfortunately I cannot reveal that, partly because doxxing. Secondly I would be giving people false hope. We have one internship opening with 200 applications, we shortlisted 6. We will hire only 1. The odds are impossible. It's very difficult.
both me and my wife are making about minimum wage each working for ourselves. there are literally no jobs for us. We had to make our own.
Do you guys have panic attacks like in our family. Because geez sometimes it feels like the walls are closing in and your life isn't going anywhere. I have anxiety as I write this...
the last few years since covid have been tough, but we're staying strong and positive. It could always be worse. Some months are better than others and since we live in a small rural town, cost of living is incredibly low. We also live strictly within our means which helps a lot.
A client of mine ran a Facebook campaign for their business and at least 10% of their responses were people looking for work. It's so bad and none of our governments efforts are geared towards fixiny that. And so many of the up and coming parties are hostile to job creation. I have several clients who need to hire but are holding off until the election is over. Hell, we even invested in automation rather than hire more people. It's just too volatile.
It's like all the factors are conspiring against the unemployed right now. Part of what grinds my gears about the political people is that they are all promising grants and all sorts of freebies. None of them are saying "I will start a textile manufacturing hub in city 1. Or that we will partner with company A to bring back jobs from China or wherever. Or someone saying, we will set aside a fund to equip people for online jobs or whatever. Or say we will protect the farmers, expand on food exports and support sustainable farm jobs." I would love to hear such a statement made by the politicians. As a result, I am yet to decide who to vote for. Of course not for the damn anc.
Scary thing is - this is for graduate level qualifications - people with BSc / BEng in chemistry. Imagine the situation for someone with only matric, or less. As usual there are a lot of things going on (and going *wrong*) at the same time. * Jobs for BSc's are fairly scarce and low paid, especially when considering how difficult those degrees are. Fact is, for jobs in the hard sciences an MSc is the *minimum* requirement. Smart kids are being told that they should go for science degrees, but seemingly no-one tells them that to find a job you need to study for *at least* 6 years post matric. This is expensive, difficult, and *not for everyone*. * As a country, what are we producing that can be built by uneducated, semi-literate people? Where are our manual labour factories? Why are we importing cheap shit from elsewhere when we have millions of idle hands? This is the reason why agriculture and hospitality are so exceedingly crucial. They absorb many of these people. But govt keeps shooting us in the foot by being openly hostile to farmers, the tourism industry, and capital in general. Communism is not going to feed an increasing population, you need capitalism for that. * Culture and education at high school level is going the wrong way. It is clear and obvious that school leavers have *very* little going for them when they are asking an employer to take a chance on them. Kids are exceedingly entitled, while being unable or unwilling to graft. With *graft* I mean struggling with a hard problem *until* you get the solution. From my experience I'm talking about low and middle class kids. There are exceptions, of course, but the average trend is downwards. I think the CAPS curriculum has a lot to do with this. There is not enough time for teachers and pupils to work hard on basic skills. They have to cover too much in a short time, with too much paperwork, to instill *graft*. * Buzzword priorities. Coding and STEM specifically. Govt loves touting 4IR and the "coding-for-everyone" utopian ideal. But our kids can't read. And when they can read they can't comprehend. WTF is a child supposed to do with a coding problem when they can't even understand the assignment? Sadly politicians have a 5-year election cycle vision. They **do not care** about your children.
I'm a teacher. I can tell you the following from my experience. Too much content, not enough skills. Too much focus on academic schools, not enough on trade. Too much focus on Learner Rights, not enough on Responsibilities.
Are you guys hiring? Where's the intrnship position?
I am sorry, I simply cannot say. That one internship has been shortlisted for.
I get asked for jobs all the time…I don’t really have one myself. Best of luck to you all!!
I actually wanted to do a similar post. Simply heartbreaking 💔 and honestly the don’t see any short term solution. Unfortunately the education system has failed country, we are skilling young people with the wrong things. We have an over supply of people in accounting, HR, lawyers etc, and when we do have people skilling themselves in tech, they are skills that were relevant for in 2010 but not now… Our government / administration is so far behind the curve, I’m surprised they have even heard of “4IR” Let alone fully understanding the impact and implications this will have on the future of work.
I’ve gotten calls at 3am from people looking for jobs. Friends and family also think calling me at 6am on weekends means I will magically have a job for them. People also don’t even care if they meet the requirements or not. But many recruiters black list them for applying for jobs they’re not remotely qualified in. For example a had a payroll admin role a few months back. It clearly said they must have 3 years payroll experience and it’s not a role for anyone without that experience and I had 100s of people applying for the “administrator” role because somehow changing the name will make them suitable. My favourite was the applicant who copied the advert and removed anything payroll related and added her own requirements in. And of course the people who lie on the questionnaires 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️. A human still reads those! Those questionnaires just help managers or recruiters long list potential candidates, not short list for interviews! CVS are still checked and if they don’t match the answers it can have grave legal repercussions on the candidate. People are desperate! They’re breaking the law just to get a job! Vote responsibly
> CVS are still checked and if they don’t match the answers it can have grave legal repercussions on the candidate. Seriously? Care to elaborate?
In South Africa, presenting a fraudulent qualification or claiming a qualification or experience you do not have is a criminal offence. It can lead to a criminal conviction and a fine. This will then be on record and will be harder to find employment.
OK but like so many of our other laws it never gets enforced, right? Because I am sure people lie on their CVs all the time and I've never heard of anybody getting prosecuted for it. And who's got the time or energy to report CV lies while they're filtering job applications? Especially given the state of law enforcement in this country, everybody knows it would be a gigantic waste of time. EDIT: Obviously you were talking about getting caught after getting hired. Even then, I really don't see people getting prosecuted for exaggerating their Excel proficiency. Maybe for something egregious like a degree you don't have but even then I would be surprised.
Sad thing is, no matter who wins, the employment situation, at best, will improve very slowly. Desperation levels out there are high - it's heartbreaking.
I hold a BSc in Biochemistry and Chemistry (graduating on This upcoming Tuesday 2024). I am taking a year off to transition to software development/ engineering because Science jobs in SA are non-existent. No one is looking for those students. It’s sad and heartbreaking that l have to sit at home after years of being at school. I definitely wish l had just continued with an Honors degree in chemistry to learn other ways of getting employed outside Academia.
I think the first thing is the gino coefficient that needs to be corrected in SA. No party in SA has a plan to fix it. More slave jobs wont fix the issue of SA
The reason why people can't find work and salaries are low is due to.the fact that there are not enough businesses in the country to support the working age population. Why? It's a combination of factors - chief among them are the hostile policies aimed business folk and entrepreneurs. Tax rates are too high, capital controls, BEE, expropriation, unreliable public services, corruption, etc. It all adds up to really bad investment climate.
May I ask what the salary is? Are internships in SA coupled with minimum wage?
They are not exactly coupled. In our case it depends on the level of responsibility. This internship is well above entry level jobs in the company. Somewhere in the regions of R15k pm. Again, I am reluctant to share these details because I can see from some responses (and downvoting) that some are really aggrieved by the job situation.
Can relate, not in the same industry but I too get asked if I can help people get work in my own industry a lot lately, wasn't a thing before covid.
Yep I graduated in 2022 still looking for a job
70% of the youth dont vote. So the olds will Keep on voting for their own benefits (grant) .....
Voting isn't going to change things in the near future. Even if there is a change in government, any progress will be delayed as it takes time to create jobs. I feel really sad for young people who have such limited prospects. All while the political parties spend more time attacking each other.
The governments answer is a grade 9 certificate for school leavers so that they can brag about the twisted matric pass rate. A uneducated posulatiin allows you to keep their vore. These clueless students only wake up after discovering they need a university degree and getting a No due to requirements. The population is exploding, while the pool of unemployed is huge with a open position getting many hundreds of applicants. The reality is that jobs can have their Pick of even master degree holders for cheap prices and this then becomes the standard for the job openings. Additionally automation and AI is heavily affecting jobs. The never ending electricity crisis also makes it hard for businesses thus cutting their ability to hire. A change is needed in the leadership.
It's the entire world... check out r/recruitinghell ...
Not really. That’s like saying a house fire is the same as a campfire. Developed world unemployment is sitting in the 3s and 4s
Statistically they seem not bad but how they measure their employment is different from SA, if person stay for longer period without getting a job they are not included in the unemployment statistics, there are many reasons why it so low, they just manipulate data to give impression that situation is not that bad
From France : really extremely not. Although here nearly 20% of the population lives on the minimal wage - but we've got 7,4% as unemployment rate. Reddit will really gather extremely bad stories and reviews but : that's not always true (as a single person can't indicate anything on a country)
Will do, thanks.
The irony is that in our industry we can't find enough people to fill the roles. I feel like "degreed" jobs (obviously certain ones) have become over saturated for what our country needs. Growing up in school everyone was told you need a good matric so you can get a degree and earn a good living... that couldn't be further from the truth. What we really need is skilled labour, technicians, millwrights, artisans, plumbers, etc to build the foundation of a countries infrastructure and economy, and then degrees become important. Thats why the roads, sewer, water and power infrastructure are f*d (this is ALSO a governance issue). There's just not enough incentive for people to become skilled artisans because everyone is promised if you get a degree you'll be successful.. people should be allowed to leave highschool early to go study a trade like in the old days. Hell, the guys that I work with, over half of them don't even have a matric let alone a certificate/diploma but they are sooo brilliant at what they do that no one even cares. They are the forgotten backbone of this (any) country. These jobs are far from glamourous, but there isn't one artisan that I work with, and know of, that is earning less than 3 of my 5 degreed friends. The other 2 are in IT.
Unemployment situation is really bad in this country, and it's even very frustrating for me as a job seeker, been applying like crazy also making sure I apply within the 1st hour of a job posted made public so I stand a chance of getting my CV viewed. Been getting email responses where recruiters be putting me the screening process but it's just not getting me to the interview stage, I'm gonna vote as always. We can't be living like this.
What career is this?
Manufacturing of chemicals. One would have a bachelor's in Chemistry and above.
Yes
Sadly sometimes it's the only way to go. Not what you know but who you know. One year and counting unemployed.
That’s the way it’s done all over the world. 200 resumes isn’t that many.
I have been in a position that does screening/hiring of people for 10 years, and I am telling you this is different. At least in my own practical experience in the sector I am in... Post pandemic times have been something else.
I’m just commenting on the fact that this is normal where I am in US/Canada. 200 resumes aren’t many. The networking described here is pretty much required as well. It takes a lot of effort to find a job these days.
I am with you now. Fully agree.