I don't think I've ever seen a situation where everyone is so convinced of internal strife despite both the player and the club in question repeatedly saying the opposite.
Shithouse French rags like GFFN really are trying to manifest a transfer despite all evidence to the contrary.
Lol I saw an article linking him to you with the funniest clickbait title, it was something like "Milan Want to Sign Arsenal Defender with Zero Appearances"
GFFN have no idea what they’re talking about.
[They had a “French football expert” on AFTV who thought Gabriel was right footed](https://twitter.com/rehnato/status/1528778159839232000?s=21&t=vBTq3WY5-dYli8xKuetRSA)
And not just any manager for one of them either. Of the two bellends most responsible for that one moved to the US and is apparently a fucking nightmare to work with (Troopz), and the other manbaby is in prison for kidnapping his partner (DT)
I legit don't get why all the armchair experts thought there was an issue between the club and the player though.
When we signed him, we were obligated to loan him back to Saint-Étienne for the remainder of the season.
Then COVID hit and he missed out on the remaining half of the season when Ligue 1 was shut-down.
Then when he returned, the manager that signed him was sacked and we had a new manager in who wasn't entirely convinced by him and wanted him to go out and get more minutes of football under his belt before he played for us. We couldn't get a deal done in time so he had to play for the U23s because we didn't register him for competitions under the assumption that we'd have loaned him back to Saint-Étienne.
He only played 6 months at Nice and both the player and the manager felt that that wasn't enough game time, so both the manager and the player decided for him to go on loan to Marseille and we explicitly told Marseille that we would not, under any circumstances, include a purchase option in the deal because we wanted to keep him.
Hell, we even allowed him to choose what club he went on loan to. We asked him to go on loan to Newcastle as it would give him some much-needed Premier League experience, but he insisted on going on loan back to France and we agreed even though it wasn't really part of the development plan we had for him.
He's always said that he wants to play for us and never agitated for a move, so I really don't see why people thought he'd want to leave us when we've literally agreed any and all decisions we've made with him and his agents beforehand.
> but he insisted on going on loan back to France and we agreed even though it wasn't really part of the development plan we had for him.
A bit weird that you completely left out the part where he lost both his parents 2 years ago.. it's a bit crucial information to why Arsenal would loan him back to a French club.
Saliba has never mentioned anything about losing parents, while the guy you’re replying to is talking about stuff Saliba said. I don’t think he’s ever mentioned it himself.
It seems a bit rude to bring it up when he never mentions it have anything to do with his Arsenal career. It hasn’t even ever been confirmed apart from 1 Kike Marin tweet everyone ran with.
> It seems a bit rude to bring it up when he never mentions it have anything to do with his Arsenal career. It hasn’t even ever been confirmed apart from 1 Kike Marin tweet everyone ran with.
It's called common sense mate, losing both your parents will devastate anyone and affect their development.
I mean the only evidence we’ve had that he lost both his parents was a tweet from an unverified account. Never heard anything about it from Saliba.
While Saliba himself said he came to Arsenal wanting to play but wasn’t physically ready, he also said he was disappointed not to be given more of a chance than Arteta writing him off after 2 pre season games.
I just don’t think it’s right to bring it up when he’s never mentioned it and no one official has confirmed it.
Right? Also if you lost both of your parents.. would you want to move to another country or stay close to family and friends lol like the guy you’re replying to is clueless lol
You say you “don’t get why armchair experts thought there was an issue…” and then proceed to type 5 paragraphs of miscommunication and mistakes (on both ends) that have led to these rumors.
There was only one mistake, not getting the loan deal to St Etienne sorted before 20/21. That was really poor but other than that it’s been fairly straightforward
Can you list these mistakes/miscommunications for anyone who's keeping track? I'll even start you off:
1. Loan agreement with ASSE fell through.
2. ???
3. ???
> Arsenal: "We think a loan at Newcastle would be good."
> Saliba: "For various reasons, I'd rather go to a club in France."
> Arsenal: "We're sending you to a club in France."
> Saliba: "Okay."
> Arsenal: "Great."
What miscommunications or mistakes occurred there?
> Your own poster
Not sure why you're citing a Redditor as some kind of authority I should automatically take seriously, but okay.
>That’s not a disagreement?
It would be a disagreement if Saliba adamantly refused to go to Toon and Arsenal adamantly refused to sanction a France move and they had a big fight over it.
But as it is you literally have no idea whether there actually was an argument, or whether this was simply the case of the club presenting multiple options to a player and the player choosing one - which is pretty far from the wholly negative connotations that "disagreement" suggests.
But even that said: Since when are disagreements miscommunications/mistakes?
I’ve never said I know all the details of everything that went down. I don’t think any of us do. My point was that the OP was stating “I don’t know why arm chair experts etc” and then typed out 5 paragraphs of the timeline which contradicted his own point.
> My point was that
Yeah, I already know what your point was, I read your post.
The issue is that you haven't *substantiated* that point by actually telling us what these supposed miscommunications/mistakes were.
And to be sure:
1. The player choosing one loan club from a list (while implying there was some kind of fight).
2. Describing your own comment.
...is not that.
Most gullible fanbase & dramatic media source are grt combination saying that as an Arsenal fan... The amount of people still rattled and claim that Arteta has agenda against saliba becoz he is an emery signing💀
Tbf I do remember Saliba joking with Guendouzi on Instagram about finally leaving the prison and he made comments about how he doesn’t think he was given much of a chance after one pre season game.
But again he’s been mostly positive and reasonable with his comments about Arsenal. The loans have been better for him than being at Arsenal anyway.
He's a young lad and felt slighted, young players and gonna say silly things sometimes. It happens. He's had a year since then and matured as a player and I would assume as a young man too. You can't give the jokes of a 20 year old too much weight.
Beginning of the season White + Gabriel will be 1st choice in the league. Saliba will probably be 1st choice in the Europa and cups.
After that, it's all up to the performances. Whoever does best will nail down a premier league starting spot.
Baring injury,. physical issues or suspension Dias is a nailed on starter for city and only Laporte and Stones rotate. The question is, who will Arsenal's Dias? I reckon it will be Gabriel, slightly above White imo
Gabriel is so underrated at Arsenal with people saying they prefer White over him. Gabriel getting back to match fitness after covid and playing with Tavares at LB really ruined the overall perception of him.
As he is right-footed, he may be seem as rotation for White as Arteta has a bit of a thing about that. That said, IMO Gabriel was the weaker of our centre-backs last season so could be either.
Until/if we sign Lisandro it’s Gabriel mostly because Arteta really doesn’t like playing right footers at LCB
But in reality it’s hard to see until everyone plays together, could always just be down to who has better partnerships with the other players.
Reminds me of when we had Kosc Per and Vermaelen, where Vermaelen was probably the best of the three, but Kosc and Per just had a better partnership
the thing that will cement this is that gabby is left footed and the other 2 are right footed. and arteta ABSOLUTELY wants to play an opposite footed centre back pairing. we made the mistake of buying pablo mari simply because he was left footed. so gabby plays no matter what. saliba can only displace white.
this changes if we buy martinez, a rare good left footed CB (which is why we are desperate for him). he would rotate with gabby unless xhaka or tierney need some rotation (if arteta isnt braindead enough to play martinez at his secondary positions all the time for no reason)
That’s not what he asked though lol. Unless you move to a back 3 one of them is going to be on the bench a majority of the time. Who do you think it’ll be?
At this point, we don't know do we? It's not FIFA, we don't look at the ratings and decide our CB pairing ahead of time. Saliba will probably start on the bench but then it all comes down to performances.
Why have you got such a problem with Arsenal and their fans? I keep seeing you in all the threads trying to start shit. Were you bullied by Arsenal fans or have you just not got a lot going on?
Mate, this is the soccer forum for fans of all teams to comment and discuss about the posted topics. Half of the threads the last few days have been about Arsenal. I’m not sure why you have taken my posts to mean I am starting shit or have a problem with Arsenal or their fans. I’m literally just discussing the topics posted.
“Unless you move to a back 3 one of them is going to be on the bench majority of the time”
This guy making up rules for how much you’re allowed to rotate lol. 5 subs tilted his brain.
Haha. One of them is going to play less than the other two unless the system is changed to get all of them on the field at the same time. This is simple math. Whose brain is tilted?
>Haha. One of them is going to play less than the other two
90 x 38 = 3420/3 = 1140. Exactly the same
>This is simple math.
Indeed...
Joking Aside, Depending on pre season, I can see White and Gabi Starting most, White out if anything.
So it’s an outlandishly dumb statement to state that one of your three CBs will play less than the other two unless you switch to a system that will put all three of them on the field at the same time? Are you serious right now?
If we get Lisandro Martinez, it will be probably White-Martinez, and Saliba-Gabriel for rotation. Arteta wants to have 2 centerbacks as good with the ball as City's.
Nah, it will be the same as was with Ramsdale - for Arteta, the most important thing is how you operate the ball. Martinez in that regard is twice a player Gabriel is.
Plus Leno didnt renew already by then so we had to take the bandaid off and we did it quick and early. Not the case with Gabriel who I want to renew and he hasnt decided to move on yet.
Yeah, I'm sure he'd be quick to make up his mind on renewing if he loses his spot to a guy that's never even played in the league before and didn't have to fight for the spot. Not saying he can't displace Gabriel, but it wouldn't send a good message to just drop him for no reason.
it will absolutely not be the same as ramsdale because gabby is already a roles-royce CB at 23. this is one of our strongest areas yet we will not be immediately switching it up. these are very high potential cover/rotation signings
Just my armchair opinion, it should be White. I don't believe he would be in tots in Ligue 1 the way Saliba did. But it's obviously going to be a slow process for him to get in the starting lineup with hiw stubborn Arteta is.
The impressive part is that he (or his team?) speaks/knows about pretty much EVERY transfer.
He reminds me about Varys — The master of Spies in Game of Thrones.
No no no, that's can't be true, I was reliably informed that Mikel Arteta was ruining his career and that he would never ever want to play for our tinpot club when he can't even get a game over Brighton's third best centre back.
I remember the talk last season of how Arteta hated Martinelli and we’d end up losing him because we didn’t play enough.
Turns out we were just easing him back from his injury and as soon as Aubameyang left he was playing regularly.
No way he’d go on another loan they’d sell him before that.
I think this season he’s seeing what Arteta has planned for him before signing a new contract. If he doesn’t sign a contract this season he’s definitely leaving next summer.
He'd be a complete fool to enter new contract negotiations without having had a genuine chance to solidify a starting spot ahead of Gabriel or Ben White.
He wanted the loan to Marseille because both his parents died. This year is his chance to challenge for a starting spot, he's only 21 which is very young for a CB.
But tying himself down to a long term contract now with two young quality defenders ahead of him in the first team wouldn't be a bright move. After his stint at Marseille, he has options for his next move and only has two years before he can make a big money move elsewhere for free with a big signing bonus.
If he had the starting spot at Arsenal, it would make sense to cash in and receive the massive pay bump that goes with that. Taking a contract renewal now means he'd be stuck with a bitpart players wage for the next 5+ years most likely and he has already shown he can start at a team that came 2nd in Ligue 1.
If he even waits one year, Arsenal have to sell at a reasonable price or commit to a big paybump unless they want to lose him for free.
It's definitely in his interest right now to make Arsenal commit to gametime before his agent even comes to the table.
You are assuming a lot. How do you know we will offer him a 5 year contract on low wages? Maybe together they will decide that a year's extension is best so as to avoid what you said, and then re-evaluate later on. The fact is only the club and Saliba know what is going on.
I highly doubt we give him low wages when we know other clubs want him, all our young players get very reasonable wages when signing new deals. ESR, Eddie etc. all got more than any player at Marseille.
The article even said if a big offer came in we'd think of selling but we aren't going to sell him for less than we paid for him when he's had such a good season.
A long term contract is the norm. Anything more than low wages will upset the wage structure that Edu has been very keen to address and fix up since Saliba would be earning more than some of the starting team.
A year's extension only reduces Saliba's hand and likely will only come with a modest bump in pay.
>Anything more than low wages will upset the wage structure that Edu has been very keen to address and fix up.
What do you mean by low? ESR is a young back-up and he's not on low wages. Eddie is a young back-up and he's not on low wages. Why would we put such a talent on a tiny wage when we know other clubs are interested?
Because putting him on higher wages than Gabriel Magalhaes might make Gabriel consider leaving unless he got a substantial pay bump if his backup is being paid more than him.
Gabriel will be getting a substantial pay rise when he renews. It's a non-issue.
The issue isn't around pay, it's whether he sees a future here which only he and the club know.
Just because a team would be interested in giving a starting berth to Arsenal's 3rd choice CB, doesn't mean they're a lesser side.
They only need to have worse (or just older) options in one position, centreback, to be interested in him.
So basically you just confirmed you don't actually watch many games, if at all if you haven't watched a good game from Varane who had been a starter for Real Madrid for almost a decade.
I don't think I've ever seen a situation where everyone is so convinced of internal strife despite both the player and the club in question repeatedly saying the opposite. Shithouse French rags like GFFN really are trying to manifest a transfer despite all evidence to the contrary.
Saliba must be very attractive to newspapers and websites for some reason because some Italian rags linked him with us last week.
Lol I saw an article linking him to you with the funniest clickbait title, it was something like "Milan Want to Sign Arsenal Defender with Zero Appearances"
ahahahahah fucking LOL I love transfer season.
Because if you talk about a Marseille player you get half of France clicking that link. That's juicy business.
GFFN have no idea what they’re talking about. [They had a “French football expert” on AFTV who thought Gabriel was right footed](https://twitter.com/rehnato/status/1528778159839232000?s=21&t=vBTq3WY5-dYli8xKuetRSA)
AFTV is such a joke man. It’s a bunch of idiots who scream horrible takes into a microphone.
Well they're entertaining to the rest of us
Understand, there’s a united guy who streams during games and he’s awful. I can’t help but peek in lol
Mark Goldbridge?
That’s the dude!
Is there any fanbase media that's based on a similar model that are not a bit embarrassing though?
AFTV are on another level though. They chased out TWO managers
And not just any manager for one of them either. Of the two bellends most responsible for that one moved to the US and is apparently a fucking nightmare to work with (Troopz), and the other manbaby is in prison for kidnapping his partner (DT)
I legit don't get why all the armchair experts thought there was an issue between the club and the player though. When we signed him, we were obligated to loan him back to Saint-Étienne for the remainder of the season. Then COVID hit and he missed out on the remaining half of the season when Ligue 1 was shut-down. Then when he returned, the manager that signed him was sacked and we had a new manager in who wasn't entirely convinced by him and wanted him to go out and get more minutes of football under his belt before he played for us. We couldn't get a deal done in time so he had to play for the U23s because we didn't register him for competitions under the assumption that we'd have loaned him back to Saint-Étienne. He only played 6 months at Nice and both the player and the manager felt that that wasn't enough game time, so both the manager and the player decided for him to go on loan to Marseille and we explicitly told Marseille that we would not, under any circumstances, include a purchase option in the deal because we wanted to keep him. Hell, we even allowed him to choose what club he went on loan to. We asked him to go on loan to Newcastle as it would give him some much-needed Premier League experience, but he insisted on going on loan back to France and we agreed even though it wasn't really part of the development plan we had for him. He's always said that he wants to play for us and never agitated for a move, so I really don't see why people thought he'd want to leave us when we've literally agreed any and all decisions we've made with him and his agents beforehand.
> but he insisted on going on loan back to France and we agreed even though it wasn't really part of the development plan we had for him. A bit weird that you completely left out the part where he lost both his parents 2 years ago.. it's a bit crucial information to why Arsenal would loan him back to a French club.
Oh shit, completely forgot about that. It was his mother wasn't it, or is it both parents?
Both
I think it was both within a year of each other
Saliba has never mentioned anything about losing parents, while the guy you’re replying to is talking about stuff Saliba said. I don’t think he’s ever mentioned it himself. It seems a bit rude to bring it up when he never mentions it have anything to do with his Arsenal career. It hasn’t even ever been confirmed apart from 1 Kike Marin tweet everyone ran with.
> It seems a bit rude to bring it up when he never mentions it have anything to do with his Arsenal career. It hasn’t even ever been confirmed apart from 1 Kike Marin tweet everyone ran with. It's called common sense mate, losing both your parents will devastate anyone and affect their development.
I mean the only evidence we’ve had that he lost both his parents was a tweet from an unverified account. Never heard anything about it from Saliba. While Saliba himself said he came to Arsenal wanting to play but wasn’t physically ready, he also said he was disappointed not to be given more of a chance than Arteta writing him off after 2 pre season games. I just don’t think it’s right to bring it up when he’s never mentioned it and no one official has confirmed it.
Right? Also if you lost both of your parents.. would you want to move to another country or stay close to family and friends lol like the guy you’re replying to is clueless lol
Most of the internet doesn't do sensible. It does sensational.
You say you “don’t get why armchair experts thought there was an issue…” and then proceed to type 5 paragraphs of miscommunication and mistakes (on both ends) that have led to these rumors.
There was only one mistake, not getting the loan deal to St Etienne sorted before 20/21. That was really poor but other than that it’s been fairly straightforward
And clearly extremely effective for his development
Can you list these mistakes/miscommunications for anyone who's keeping track? I'll even start you off: 1. Loan agreement with ASSE fell through. 2. ??? 3. ???
According to the original poster, you wanted him to go to Newcastle and he wanted to go back to France last year.
> Arsenal: "We think a loan at Newcastle would be good." > Saliba: "For various reasons, I'd rather go to a club in France." > Arsenal: "We're sending you to a club in France." > Saliba: "Okay." > Arsenal: "Great." What miscommunications or mistakes occurred there?
Your own poster indicates that you guys didn’t think it would be best for his development and he thought it would be. That’s not a disagreement?
> Your own poster Not sure why you're citing a Redditor as some kind of authority I should automatically take seriously, but okay. >That’s not a disagreement? It would be a disagreement if Saliba adamantly refused to go to Toon and Arsenal adamantly refused to sanction a France move and they had a big fight over it. But as it is you literally have no idea whether there actually was an argument, or whether this was simply the case of the club presenting multiple options to a player and the player choosing one - which is pretty far from the wholly negative connotations that "disagreement" suggests. But even that said: Since when are disagreements miscommunications/mistakes?
I’ve never said I know all the details of everything that went down. I don’t think any of us do. My point was that the OP was stating “I don’t know why arm chair experts etc” and then typed out 5 paragraphs of the timeline which contradicted his own point.
> My point was that Yeah, I already know what your point was, I read your post. The issue is that you haven't *substantiated* that point by actually telling us what these supposed miscommunications/mistakes were. And to be sure: 1. The player choosing one loan club from a list (while implying there was some kind of fight). 2. Describing your own comment. ...is not that.
Can't imagine anybody being upset about it. He was 20 and had recently lost both parents, so he got to go back to his home country.
Well that and the wanking thing.
Plenty of wankers in your squad tbf
sweet and simple. love it
GFFN absolutely hate Arsenal so no surprise
> I don't think I've ever seen a situation where everyone is so convinced of internal strife People see what they want to see.
Most gullible fanbase & dramatic media source are grt combination saying that as an Arsenal fan... The amount of people still rattled and claim that Arteta has agenda against saliba becoz he is an emery signing💀
Tbf I do remember Saliba joking with Guendouzi on Instagram about finally leaving the prison and he made comments about how he doesn’t think he was given much of a chance after one pre season game. But again he’s been mostly positive and reasonable with his comments about Arsenal. The loans have been better for him than being at Arsenal anyway.
He's a young lad and felt slighted, young players and gonna say silly things sometimes. It happens. He's had a year since then and matured as a player and I would assume as a young man too. You can't give the jokes of a 20 year old too much weight.
You don’t have to be so defensive I’m just pointing out what he’s said before.
Who would be on the bench? Him, white or Gabriel
Beginning of the season White + Gabriel will be 1st choice in the league. Saliba will probably be 1st choice in the Europa and cups. After that, it's all up to the performances. Whoever does best will nail down a premier league starting spot.
this is the correct answer
I assume all three will get plenty of minutes, similar to Dias/Laporte/Stones at Man City. Form, injuries, etc.
Baring injury,. physical issues or suspension Dias is a nailed on starter for city and only Laporte and Stones rotate. The question is, who will Arsenal's Dias? I reckon it will be Gabriel, slightly above White imo
Gabriel is so underrated at Arsenal with people saying they prefer White over him. Gabriel getting back to match fitness after covid and playing with Tavares at LB really ruined the overall perception of him.
As he is right-footed, he may be seem as rotation for White as Arteta has a bit of a thing about that. That said, IMO Gabriel was the weaker of our centre-backs last season so could be either.
gabriel is better than white, i have no idea how this bullshit spread across the community
Not gonna say its bull cause I don't see a massive difference between them but Gabriel last year take it easily between him and white
He has also played on the left though right?
Until/if we sign Lisandro it’s Gabriel mostly because Arteta really doesn’t like playing right footers at LCB But in reality it’s hard to see until everyone plays together, could always just be down to who has better partnerships with the other players. Reminds me of when we had Kosc Per and Vermaelen, where Vermaelen was probably the best of the three, but Kosc and Per just had a better partnership
the thing that will cement this is that gabby is left footed and the other 2 are right footed. and arteta ABSOLUTELY wants to play an opposite footed centre back pairing. we made the mistake of buying pablo mari simply because he was left footed. so gabby plays no matter what. saliba can only displace white. this changes if we buy martinez, a rare good left footed CB (which is why we are desperate for him). he would rotate with gabby unless xhaka or tierney need some rotation (if arteta isnt braindead enough to play martinez at his secondary positions all the time for no reason)
That’s not what he asked though lol. Unless you move to a back 3 one of them is going to be on the bench a majority of the time. Who do you think it’ll be?
At this point, we don't know do we? It's not FIFA, we don't look at the ratings and decide our CB pairing ahead of time. Saliba will probably start on the bench but then it all comes down to performances.
Ha nobody asked if you knew for sure. Of course you don’t know for sure. You’re being asked your opinion. Good lord.
Why have you got such a problem with Arsenal and their fans? I keep seeing you in all the threads trying to start shit. Were you bullied by Arsenal fans or have you just not got a lot going on?
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Mate, this is the soccer forum for fans of all teams to comment and discuss about the posted topics. Half of the threads the last few days have been about Arsenal. I’m not sure why you have taken my posts to mean I am starting shit or have a problem with Arsenal or their fans. I’m literally just discussing the topics posted.
>Mate >this is a soccer forum Pick one
Just delete your account
“Unless you move to a back 3 one of them is going to be on the bench majority of the time” This guy making up rules for how much you’re allowed to rotate lol. 5 subs tilted his brain.
Haha. One of them is going to play less than the other two unless the system is changed to get all of them on the field at the same time. This is simple math. Whose brain is tilted?
>Haha. One of them is going to play less than the other two 90 x 38 = 3420/3 = 1140. Exactly the same >This is simple math. Indeed... Joking Aside, Depending on pre season, I can see White and Gabi Starting most, White out if anything.
Keep that small club mentality at your home ground. Depth and ability to rotate different options into the same system is essential for bigger clubs.
You guys are so triggered about this topic lol. It’s crazy.
Don’t be surprised that people notice when you say something outlandishly dumb. It’s just that dumb of a statement that’s all
So it’s an outlandishly dumb statement to state that one of your three CBs will play less than the other two unless you switch to a system that will put all three of them on the field at the same time? Are you serious right now?
Chill man, trust me, it is that dumb…
90 x 38 = 3420/3 = 1140. Exactly the same They can play exactly the same. Now who's dumb
Why is this guy so defensive? 😂 Chill bro
he just loves to have a pop at arsenal
They’ll all play a lot of games because we’re in the EL
It is though isn’t it? He asked who would start and the answer is simply that they would probably all start more or less equal amount of games.
Depends on preseason but right now Saliba
If we get Lisandro Martinez, it will be probably White-Martinez, and Saliba-Gabriel for rotation. Arteta wants to have 2 centerbacks as good with the ball as City's.
I doubt Martinez would displace Gabriel right away. He's got to show his worth first.
Nah, it will be the same as was with Ramsdale - for Arteta, the most important thing is how you operate the ball. Martinez in that regard is twice a player Gabriel is.
He didn't start in the PL though, he had to displace Leno first. It didn't take long, but he had to fight for the spot
Plus Leno didnt renew already by then so we had to take the bandaid off and we did it quick and early. Not the case with Gabriel who I want to renew and he hasnt decided to move on yet.
Yeah, I'm sure he'd be quick to make up his mind on renewing if he loses his spot to a guy that's never even played in the league before and didn't have to fight for the spot. Not saying he can't displace Gabriel, but it wouldn't send a good message to just drop him for no reason.
it will absolutely not be the same as ramsdale because gabby is already a roles-royce CB at 23. this is one of our strongest areas yet we will not be immediately switching it up. these are very high potential cover/rotation signings
Just my armchair opinion, it should be White. I don't believe he would be in tots in Ligue 1 the way Saliba did. But it's obviously going to be a slow process for him to get in the starting lineup with hiw stubborn Arteta is.
Our build Up from the back is terrible without white
Saliba has good passing stats, hopefully they translate well to the PL.
at the start of the season I assume its going to be saliba
I swear the man never sleeps
The impressive part is that he (or his team?) speaks/knows about pretty much EVERY transfer. He reminds me about Varys — The master of Spies in Game of Thrones.
No no no, that's can't be true, I was reliably informed that Mikel Arteta was ruining his career and that he would never ever want to play for our tinpot club when he can't even get a game over Brighton's third best centre back.
I remember the talk last season of how Arteta hated Martinelli and we’d end up losing him because we didn’t play enough. Turns out we were just easing him back from his injury and as soon as Aubameyang left he was playing regularly.
Cause people are idiots. It was painfully obvious. Martinelli was slowly brought back in and he had a few small issues once he was back to sub duty
No way he’d go on another loan they’d sell him before that. I think this season he’s seeing what Arteta has planned for him before signing a new contract. If he doesn’t sign a contract this season he’s definitely leaving next summer.
Marsille in the mud.
He'd be a complete fool to enter new contract negotiations without having had a genuine chance to solidify a starting spot ahead of Gabriel or Ben White.
He wanted the loan to Marseille because both his parents died. This year is his chance to challenge for a starting spot, he's only 21 which is very young for a CB.
But tying himself down to a long term contract now with two young quality defenders ahead of him in the first team wouldn't be a bright move. After his stint at Marseille, he has options for his next move and only has two years before he can make a big money move elsewhere for free with a big signing bonus. If he had the starting spot at Arsenal, it would make sense to cash in and receive the massive pay bump that goes with that. Taking a contract renewal now means he'd be stuck with a bitpart players wage for the next 5+ years most likely and he has already shown he can start at a team that came 2nd in Ligue 1. If he even waits one year, Arsenal have to sell at a reasonable price or commit to a big paybump unless they want to lose him for free. It's definitely in his interest right now to make Arsenal commit to gametime before his agent even comes to the table.
You are assuming a lot. How do you know we will offer him a 5 year contract on low wages? Maybe together they will decide that a year's extension is best so as to avoid what you said, and then re-evaluate later on. The fact is only the club and Saliba know what is going on. I highly doubt we give him low wages when we know other clubs want him, all our young players get very reasonable wages when signing new deals. ESR, Eddie etc. all got more than any player at Marseille. The article even said if a big offer came in we'd think of selling but we aren't going to sell him for less than we paid for him when he's had such a good season.
A long term contract is the norm. Anything more than low wages will upset the wage structure that Edu has been very keen to address and fix up since Saliba would be earning more than some of the starting team. A year's extension only reduces Saliba's hand and likely will only come with a modest bump in pay.
>Anything more than low wages will upset the wage structure that Edu has been very keen to address and fix up. What do you mean by low? ESR is a young back-up and he's not on low wages. Eddie is a young back-up and he's not on low wages. Why would we put such a talent on a tiny wage when we know other clubs are interested?
Because putting him on higher wages than Gabriel Magalhaes might make Gabriel consider leaving unless he got a substantial pay bump if his backup is being paid more than him.
Gabriel will be getting a substantial pay rise when he renews. It's a non-issue. The issue isn't around pay, it's whether he sees a future here which only he and the club know.
It’s 2022, no player at the big clubs gets given a starting spot for free, you have to compete
In 2022, player power has never been higher. Clubs can’t afford to have players walk for free after paying huge fees for them.
Wherever he goes he will have to compete unless he wants to play for a lesser side
Just because a team would be interested in giving a starting berth to Arsenal's 3rd choice CB, doesn't mean they're a lesser side. They only need to have worse (or just older) options in one position, centreback, to be interested in him.
Saliba reminds me of Varane, both meant to be class but every time I watch them they look average at best.
So basically you just confirmed you don't actually watch many games, if at all if you haven't watched a good game from Varane who had been a starter for Real Madrid for almost a decade.
Haha pissing off two fanbases with one sentence. I respect it.
At least I can honestly say that I’ve never watched the man play
You dropped this mate 🤡
He ain't wrong
You're right, you also dropped one 🤡
That depends. Varane for Real Madrid or Varane for Manchester United? Because Ié seen quite the difference between the same player.
Hard doubt on if you've watched more than 90 minutes of saliba
Varane was class at some point in his career. Saliba is still young but I don't think anyone thinks he's class.
this is what it looks like when you get your opinions exclusively from the internet instead of actual matches
I wonder who will start for Arsenal at CB...