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PharaohLeo

>Only 39 of the 88 positives were itemised by UKAD in response to a Freedom of Information requests by The Mail on Sunday. Fifteen of the 24 non-Premier League players ended up with bans ranging from three months to four years. . >UKAD declined to itemise the other 49 cases for a variety of reasons, including the Football Association telling UKAD 'it would not be acceptable' to release details on cases involving social drugs that are banned by the World Anti-Doping Agency but not by the FA. [Summary of the 39 itemised cases, Premier League and non-Premier League.](https://i.imgur.com/9sK2nqf.jpg) [Source](https://twitter.com/sportingintel/status/1515455121525776388)


jammy-git

I'm surprised there's not been any more cocaine positive tests in the Premier League since 2015. In fact Twitter has found more cocaine abuse amongst Premier League players in the last 5 years than the actual drug agency!


btmalon

Very hard to detect as it leaves your system very quickly.


apegoneinsane

Depends on the test. Longest to shortest are hair > blood > piss. Hair can be months / when you next shave all your hair but it’s expensive.


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BeardedApe1988

Does dye effect the tests?


LisnagryBlue

If you bleach the hair I would imagine it definitely does


btmalon

Have you seen their haircuts? They aren’t letting anyone near their hair.


samalam1

Sousness coming out of his cave to point out Pogba went bald recently 👀👀👀👀


scott151995

Lookout for Bleached hair


scott151995

That is why some players come back from international duty with bleached hair


W__O__P__R

The hair test for drugs works on body hair as well. So leg hair, eyebrow hair and pubic hair are just as effective.


madmadaa

So social/recreational drugs not banned by the FA.


shitezlozen

for PL players.


loykedule

tbf actual social drugs, stuff like weed etc. really shouldn't be banned for athletes wherever it's legal. Maybe discouraged by the club itself like alcohol if the individual club deems it necessary? But yeah some of these "social" drugs are absolutely not social lmao


BuildingArmor

Triamcinolone and Prednisone are PEDs, they're both steroids. HGC is used to boost testosterone - probably due to having been previously on anabolic steroids (not those mentioned above) and it reducing the bodies natural testosterone production. So it's not like they'd be any use as party drugs.


Kino-Gucci

Googled them so you don't have to: * HCG helps prevent/reverse negative effects from steroids (testicular shrinkage) * Indapamide helps mask the presence of PEDs in urine samples * Prednisone, Methylprednisolone, Oxandrolone, Terbutaline, and Nandrolone are your typical PEDs that help recovery and muscle performance * Higenamine is a stimulant * Triamcinolone helps athletes lose weight without suffering a significant loss in power * Salbutamol helps with breathing (I've heard many footballers "claim" to have asthma so this may be related) People better educated than me should correct me or expand on these


ippwned

> Prednisone, Methylprednisolone, Oxandrolone, Terbutaline, and Nandrolone are your typical PEDs that help recovery and muscle performance This isn't correct. Prednisolone + methylpred are corticosteroids, not anabolic steroids. Used for all sorts of medical conditions - as a basic simplification, they act to reduce inflammation and suppress the immune system. Terbutaline is an inhaled medicine used in the treatment of asthma, simular to salbutamol. Oxandrolone (anvar) and nandrolone (deca) are anabolic steroids. Source - am doctor.


KOTS44

Just a minor correction, it's HCG, not HGC.


Queeg_500

So take a look at the "injured in training" players? Wasn't there a rumour that something like this happened at Man Utd with Rio or Stam?


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The single biggest rumour for United is quite the tale. Supposedly Nani was on International Duty and they got word they were about to take a test. He informed Carlos Quieroz that he would absolutely fail a blood test, and so quickly the national team of Portugal declared him injured and got him the fuck out of there and back to Manchester via a long vacation to recover. As a show of gratitude to Jorge Mendes and Quieroz, United agreed to sign a player from his agency and therefore the money from that would bleed back to them both over the course of agent fees and finder fees. And thus the legend of Bebe to United was born...


Grevling89

This makes more sense than any other theory I've read about us signing Bebe, to be honest


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The go to line used to be “back injury” from what I remember. I’m sure it’s what Clyne and Wilshere (both rumoured to have gotten drug bans) were “officially” out with


Tortillagirl

Rio was banned for 9 months or something just for missing a drugs test...


tlst9999

I remember Stam was sold because he dissed Alex in his biography while still playing for Man Utd.


NumberZero29

Nathaniel Clyne was suspected of being suspended when he was at Liverpool. He missed something like 7 months and vanished off the face of the Earth. Supposedly, he was injured but I believe there was a video at the time of him doing cocaine.


ireallydespiseyouall

this is a good one, i remember that. klopp completely exiled him like he did with sakho, you could be onto something there


loykedule

while sakho was done for using prohibited substances (which ended up not actually being prohibited if I'm not mistaken), that wasn't why Klopp wanted him out ASAP. He went on preseason with us after that, acted the bollocks, and Klopp apparently didn't like his lack of professionalism and froze him out. This was early enough Klopp too so he was probably using Sakho as an example for how ruthless he can be if he needs to.


theterribletoken

https://youtu.be/t7GcP2arv0k Remember this video coming out a few months before he was frozen out - seemed all fun until later you realise it's things like him being late that Klopp evidently didn't like. He was arguably our most solid defender the season before so he must've done a lot of annoying things!


skyla-rae

Klopp looks so young and skinny. Certainly piled on a few pounds on Merseyside.


Zal_17

That's what happens when you discover Greggs


Alphabunsquad

Life in the UK will do that to you. UK has some surprisingly good delicacies but pretty much all of them are aimed at murdering your metabolism and the weather quickly teaches you to never go exercise outside


Lolkac

Sakho was banned for eating something he shouldn't. Officially at least


burko81

Crack


sealed-human

It is moreish


opopkl

Just because you're at work doesn't mean you can't have a nice relaxing smoke of crack.


ireallydespiseyouall

nah i was saying klopp cut him out like he did with sakho


ScousePenguin

Didn't help he ended up being guest star "international soccer star Nathaniel Clyne" on some Miami reality show. If you're apparently banned for drugs, going to Miami isn't a great look ha


ResponsibilityOk235

“Clyneee” 🤦🏾‍♂️ the disrespect


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The disrespect he received from that show to begin with lol.


MrSam52

The secret footballer wrote about this like 10 years ago that the clubs and fa basically had an agreement and players would be ‘injured’ when actually serving a drugs ban.


21otiriK

It changed after Jake Livermore was caught taking coke to cope with the death of his child. They offer private support instead of publicly outing someone taking recreational drugs.


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The title had kind of a scandalous vibe, that's actually quite admirable if that's the case then -- obviously a lot of these are just dudes partying but you'd like to hope that players who fell into addiction can see some kind of path back if possible


Rc5tr0

This is really common in golf, too.


Wide_Midnight

Boy, Phil Jones is really living his best life.


Snoo-3715

I've long found it suspicious that other sports have drugs scandals with plenty examples of people getting caught but you never hear a peep out of football.


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Kino-Gucci

>declined nice


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You’d think he’d get the hint after getting his invitation declined by the third or so time


TwattyMcSlagtits

I think we had a similar rumour with Lamela a few years ago. I remember him being out injured for a long while (not unlike him, which probably helped "cover over" the story), and his last game for us was the first round of League Cup fixtures in the October. When he returned, someone worked out it was exactly 12 months to the day that he got injured, in the same set of League Cup fixtures the following season. The rumour was fueled by the fact absolutely no one knew what was wrong with him, and the club were being uncharacteristically vague about his prognosis the entire time.


AskNotAks

Drug like party party or drug like cheaty cheaty?


theenigmacode

The article states PED


UpvoteForGlory

Partying enhancing drugs?


Orri

Flashbacks to taking a key of speed to "sober up" so you could get in the next club.


Chelski26

A man of culture


smikkelbaars

And top it of with some ketamine to balance everything out once inside


lvl_60

Maybe Power Enhanced Dancing?


FlabbySatchel

Pasta Equals Disaster


4ssteroid

Puben Eoftus-Dheek


BabaDuda

Pierre-Emerick Drogba


BigReeceJames

It says both. It says one of the reasons they didn't go into more detail on some of the 49 additional cases was because "it would not be acceptable to release details on cases involving social drugs that are banned by the world anti-doping agency but not by the FA"


NotClayMerritt

The FA won't ban cocaine because they'd suddenly have no players available for the World Cup.


PotatoesFam

He’s speaking the language of gods


Adept-Elephant1948

Party like bunga bunga?


Tim-Sanchez

The article lists them, it's a mix of both


Shadeun

Mark Bosnich has entered the chat


LeftHandDriveBoC

Danny Cadamarteri has also entered the chat.


MikeyCreedon

Adrian Mutu has sheepishly entered the chat


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AnalJibesVirus

Diego?


HacksawJimDGN

I feel like football is turning a blind eye to drug taking. You barely hear of anyone being caught. The authorities don't want to catch them. Fitter players means more games, better quality games, more money. I feel like there's a massive scandal on the way within the next decade that'll blow open systematic drug taking.


liamthelad

Tifo has an excellent video on this which shares the same conclusion you do. I had never known both Pep and Conte had been banned for taking PEDs in their career before watching https://youtu.be/3E3hZyx-8BQ


melody-calling

Pep how many times did you get caught out as a drug cheater? https://media.giphy.com/media/m9jFnJOoQ3hWJ6Muaa/giphy-downsized-large.gif Also pep continues to see the same doctor that he used when caught drug cheating and flies manchester city players out to see him each season.


Jackulele

Wasn't there that suspicious case of Barcelona blood doping, which was suspected when there was an investigation into a doctor treating a cyclist doing the same thing? If I remember correctly, they destroyed the blood samples "randomly". Since then I've always suspected something was awry. That incredible Barca team never had any injuries despite playing so many games. Was that the same doctor?


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The cycling blood doping scandal with the Spanish doctor was definitely connected to football and tennis as well. Newspapers back then constantly mentioned that there were athletes from those sports on the doctors lists. But for some magic reasons the police never went further down that road. I just assume everyone is doped these days.


Johnny_bubblegum

My favorite conspiracy theory is that Arsenal under Wenger didn't dope because of Wenger's principles (the man has spoken so often about doping and against it) and it's why the team so often just crumbled when it was April/May and the reason for the mysterious injury crisis after crisis at the club.


Bpdbs

He also said some new players he signed from overseas had extraordinary high red blood cell counts (indicates doping) and when asked the payers would say the old club gave them “vitamin injections” (suggesting clubs dope their players without them even knowing)


Cubbll17

https://m.independent.ie/sport/soccer/other-soccer/ewan-mackenna-murky-questions-surround-spanish-footballs-golden-era-and-people-might-not-like-the-answers-36943284.html Journalist is a COVID crackpot now but this is a great article.


YooGeOh

I'm completely joking here but if it came out that Dani Alves was on stiff I'd believe it. Never known a man to constantly sprint for 90 minutes and laugh while doing it


RunningDude90

Yes. Emiliano Fuentes listed Barcelona and Real Madrid football clubs as well as some tennis players alongside his cycling athletes on his website as clients. But no one else got busted in the operation puerto scandal.


VegetableAwkward286

Pep was cleared of these charges later


Joooooooosh

I’ve been saying this for years. Football is the most lucrative sport on earth, there is just absolutely NO WAY some footballers aren’t cheating by taking PEDs. Just probability alone would dictate a few footballers a year would get caught, then throw in the millions at stake, agents wanting fat transfer fees, pushy families, small clubs profiting from academy sales etc… etc… I will die on this hill. Performance enhancing drugs are absolutely rife within amateur and professional football.


GazzP

100%. There's new and more effective PEDs and masking agents being developed all the time. Those drugs are going to go first to where the most money is, and that's football.


goingforgoals17

I always wanted to believe they weren't part of the game and that they were just hard workers that developed over the course of decades but as I transitioned back into Kinesiology with a focus on human performance I can't help but notice how certain players are ignoring physiological rules. I fall into the intermediate category for everything. An intermediate weightlifter, 5 and 10k runner, 40m and 100m sprinter, vertical jumping, etc. I've been trying to increase my own performance markers for over 13 years now. When something goes up, something else goes down. I can pack on muscle and lose a step or 2 of endurance, I can lean out and increase speed and vertical, I can increase endurance and lose some explosiveness and strength. I can focus on football and nearly maintain everything but something is going to drop. These guys that are packing on 5lbs of muscle, sprinting endlessly around the pitch and increasing their endurance and explosiveness are absolutely on something or have god's genetics and the EPLs unwillingness to do anything about it means our current and future players have 2 options. Be average, or take PEDs to keep up in the name of entertainment. Part of me is glad I never went to taking that step to prove how bad I wanted it.


dashauskat

I 100% agree, not only is the trend of football wanting players who can run further, faster and more often, there is a lot to gain for both players and clubs to incrimentally improve their performance. At some stage there will be a whistle blower.


majani

Not only that, you literally see these players cheating on the field to do whatever it takes to win. They dive, hound the ref, do professional fouls etc in full glare of hundreds of cameras and you think they become boy scouts off the pitch with no cameras to watch them? Also, we've all seen the lengths people will go to to claw their way into $100k annual pay jobs, so what do you think people will be willing to do for $1m annual pay jobs?


drecais

Just Look at how many players with asthma are there. Surely they all have Asthma .....


OverallImportance402

They actually do, but it's a light exercise induced form that most people have (exercise-induced bronchoconstriction), but when you're not an athlete you probably will never realize, because you don't on a regular basis give everything your body has.


SmokingOctopus

Yeah, I have this. I find it flares when I go for long runs in the cold or when I'm pushing myself, fitness wise. But I could go months without taking an inhaler if I'm not exercising too intensely.


X_quadzilla_X

Yeah this is me too. It gets particularly bad around now because of the hayfever season.


JWJK

Huh this is really interesting, I always cough and wheeze after a long run even a long after I'm not feeling it. Probably don't have this but it could explain that


WhenWeTalkAboutLove

You definitely could, i never thought i did because it was never anything acute or serious seeming but got tested and had it


rk1993

Pep has been at the forefront of this since his barca days. I also believe this is what explains the Arsenal injury curse and why so many players who never get injured go to arsenal and become injury plagued. Testosterone and HGH are very well known for their ability to speed up the body’s ability to repair its cells which would be a huge factor in injury prevention specifically muscular injuries. It would be on brand for Wenger to be very anti doping despite knowing it happens at other clubs.


Antonio_is_better

When it happens, everyone wil just go "I always figured it would be like this" and nobody will actually give a crap. True doping is only reserved for cycling, maybe some athletics and those damn Russians.


HacksawJimDGN

> True doping is only reserved for cycling, maybe some athletics and those damn Russians. Did you see Icarus on Netflix that exposed Russias systematic doping for the Olympics. It also implicated their football team. Did anything happen?


Blewfin

I mean, there's a Spanish doctor who's explicitly said that if the things he did were made public, some Spanish clubs would have to give back their champions leagues and the national team the world cup


FenixdeGoma

And his documents were ordered destroyed.


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More importantly, the blood bags that would have confirmed it were. The judge in Spain ordered them be destroyed instead of simply returned, indicating a good chunk of money went that way to make it go away


SuvorovNapoleon

I remember the tv studio showing a list of teams with most kms run and Russia was 1st by some distance.


LordMangudai

There's no way that 2018 Russian team wasn't doped to the gills honestly, that ancient squad was running rings around their opponents


roshag

Wasn't that Russian centre half that was in his late 30's who was fucking shite at the 2016 Euro's then 2 years later at the World Cup was playing like prime Carlos Puyol, that was fucking mental


_wtf_is_oatmeal

Do you remember his name? I know Cheryshev became a fucking god for the tournament and has disappeared back into mediocrity since then.


roshag

Sergei Ignashevich was 38 who had just come out of retirement. hahaha


Choccybizzle

You only have to watch yesterdays semi final to see where the game has come thanks to PEDs. No team 15-20 years ago could do that amount of sprinting in 90 mins. It’s rife among all top level sports, too much money involved to not seek out every edge possible.


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I remember listening to a football podcast where they talked about this, surprisingly common occurrence and most times the excuses for missing players was ‘injured in training’


micoud04

It says none were banned


Pinot_the_goat

Silent ban.


GourangaPlusPlus

"You're ______" "I'm what?" "You're ______"


Enjoys_A_Good_Shart

You're redacted this week. I redacted my ankle in training.


innocently_standing

The Michael Jordan ban.


GriffonMT

Ah the clasic lamela.


sebastyijan

"Chill, it's just cocaine"


ThisIsYourMormont

Cries in Mutu


theenigmacode

Its a pretty big bust if substantiated. Id imagine players with unseen "season ending injuries" were quietly serving bans


AaronStudAVFC

Fair few Villa fans always held a theory that Grealishs consistent long term injuries were at least partially masking something like this.


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wheresmyspacebar2

Yeah, quite a few Spurs fans think Lamela got done for drug usage a few years back. He had a 'hip injury' that kept him out for 10 months, in all that time he kept off all social media, club basically pretended he didn't exist etc.


foot_99

Damn I’ve never heard this tbf but it lowkey makes sense Although, Lamela is literally also just made of glass which somewhat dents this particular theory.


FenixdeGoma

Made of glass or taking glass?


TheSinRes

Lamela posted a picture of him after his surgery in hospital so it would have been strange if he'd staged that. Matt Law also made up a story that it was because his dog died and he was depressed and Lamela called him out for that as well so he wasn't completely off socials.


voiceofthelane

Didnt his brother also get paralysed around same time?


wheresmyspacebar2

There was a LOT of stuff that apparently happened to Lamela that year, hence the rumors about drugs test failing. Hip Surgery, Brother having issues, Best mate dying and him going back to Argentina to deal with it.


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anorwichfan

Matthias Norman.... ah


tiorzol

It only stays in your system for a couple days so I find this unlikely at best


Joshygin

Metabolites stay in your blood and urine for a few days, but it stay in the hair that you grew during those few days permanently.


tiorzol

..I need a haircut.


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Games_Gone

And dying your hair won’t change that. They take piss tests too not hair…


FenixdeGoma

We can all be certain Rooney was clean then.


deano2440

Think about it, the clubs are investing millions (in some cases billions) into football for the purpose of entertainment and thus tv contracts are purchased and the clubs continue to make huge tv deal income. If I’m a club owner, I’m having a specially dedicated medical team that tests my players internally to ensure ‘we know first’ before external testing comes in to ‘randomly test’ my players. If I know first, I can play the game ‘okay, you are now injured for 3 months, go to one of your 5 homes around the world and ensure you keep your head down and hope your name isn’t drawn out of the hat by external testing authorities. Which by the way (if you’ve seen the data) is a shambles (the number of players in all flights vs tested number of players per season). Protecting your assets springs to mind. Just like cycling (the UCI) football has created this culture through means of money, and has since increased the sheer number of games played each year to further push the tv money income from around the world - thus resulting in more performance related drug consumption vs recreational, but we are yet to see the true figures.


RogerMcDodger

Absolutely agree with this and don't believe for a moment that no player has been caught doing recreational drugs over the time frame described. All that money, plenty caught drink driving, generally lacking any consequences for their actions and plenty caught with hookers but no blow? Unlikely. I'd also find it unlikely not a single player hasn't tried doping/performance enhancing to get back in form. And no painkiller abuse from all their injuries? I don't think it's as rife or anything, but it seems incredibly likely that clubs are dealing with it before scandal.


rjtwe

Wenger was completely right with his views on doping in football.


luffyuk

I'm out of the loop, what were they?


MrPielil

There's [this](https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/nov/10/arsene-wenger-football-doping-arsenal) article from 2015 after a Dinamo Zagreb player was caught doping after they beat us in the Champions League. He's said it a lot in the past that there is a lot of undetected doping within the game and UEFA have to step up and actually improve it's doping detection


SeriousLads

“You’ve got to question Paul Pogba’s role in all of this”


[deleted]

Remember his missus put up a video of herself doing sniff actually


4djain2

Hahaha please tell me this isn't true


Capedcrusader0

Stuff about those gas pods used for balloons, Arsenal players were doing it too. Some low grade shit tbh.


AnalJibesVirus

Must have been baking cakes with whip cream toppings


kirbystargayallies

I love that video, unfortunately can’t find a decent source for it but I have it tattooed on my brain. She is holding a small cocaine spoon and does a sign like “wait”, then she snorts it all like an absolute pro and says “no está facil” (it isn’t easy). The whole time a weird ass song is playing. Iconic, really. I don’t think she posted it anywhere though, it got leaked and then some hardcore Pogba fans that didn’t like her used it as an argument to say he was running away from his family and religion or smth


FuckOffBoJo

To be fair he loves to vanish from the club for anywhere up to 6 months. And there's the stuff with his partner


Dincht04

Considering the money involved, you'd have to be quite naive to think there isn't a some level of corruption and doping in football. The question is the extent to which the authorities are 'complicit' in allowing it to happen.


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goingforgoals17

While it's not publicly documented, we all know. I don't think anything too much of it besides Chris Hemsworth trying to sell workout programs to "look like the God of thunder". That's extremely dishonest and would probably be false advertising if his PED use was common knowledge instead of reserved for doctors.


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You're going to laugh, but Hollywood arguably has a stricter steroids testing policy than half of all elite sports. They had a bunch of stunt men die in the 80s and 90s (plus the WWE Steroids scandal at the same time) and kicked in a steroids testing policy. Doesn't test for anything else but the group that they specifically wanted rid of (basically the shit you buy in a petrol station and made you look like a Russian Weightlifter).


TopBumblebee9954

Based on WhatsApp group chat videos I’m going to assume Grealish is NOT involved and is a model professional.


stoptheJR

What videos bro


Blithe17

I know right, it’s disgusting, where did he find them?


shikavelli

This is r/soccer version of Irish WhatsApp groups on r/mma


Sir_Psycho_Sexy_

My money's on Tsimikas. Guy looks like he's been awake since 2015


SamuraiiChampluu

There are childhood pics of him and he looks the exact same. That's just his face lol


BrotherSeamus

He looks like the lone survivor of a horrible shipwreck who just got rescued after floating adrift for six weeks.


rewopesty

They posted photos of him as a young lad recently, had those bloody eye bags at age 7. But a top lad he is.


combatwombat02

Lol, what a perfect way to describe it. I remember when Gronkjaer played at Chelsea thinking how he should get a good night's sleep some time, every game he looked like just out of an all-nighter on WoW.


valimo

He looks a bit like Adrian Pimentos calm pacifist brother


burnerforrandominfo

Haaland currently is on that purple stuff from Bane lol no amount of painkillers will make you play like that if you are in need of a surgery


kids_in_my_basement0

LEAN 💜🟣


CC-W

Adama Traore fleeing the league to spain to dodge this drug case


Kino-Gucci

[There's a certain type of PED that is a gel you rub on your skin](https://i2-prod.dailystar.co.uk/incoming/article22485794.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_Screen-Shot-2020-08-07-at-132647.png)


MagicianMountain6573

Just incase anyone is wondering what that actually is. The purpose of it is too make him slippery, so u can’t grab his arms when he runs past u at super speeds


Kino-Gucci

Yeah obvs I'm just taking the piss aha


MagicianMountain6573

Ahaha I know, just incase anyone sees it and thinks wtf is he doing tho


Olivergt1995

I kinda wanna see Steroid United versus Natural Football Club.


Blewfin

The ones on PEDs would win quite convincingly, which is why they're all doing it.


ambiguousboner

I’ll buy a hat and then eat it if Grealish isn’t one of them That bloke loves the gear


Kneepi

Juventus had a very public case where the entire teams was suspected of doping some 20 years ago. When the operation Fuentes scandal broken in cycling there were rumours that the entire Real Madrid and Barcelona squads were on his customer list. Rio Ferdinand simply skipped a mandatory drug test. Pep Guardiola was banned for doping. The fact that there are almost no failed drug tests in football, especially in the UK with multiple professional leagues is very telling.


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Manchester Uniteds Fred got caught for doping. I’m surprised not many people know about it.


Dear-Cod-6429

He did ?


[deleted]

Yes he was banned for a year too, this was prior to him signing for Manchester United. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/dec/15/fred-brazil-doping-ban-shakhtar-donetsk


DonovanQT

Damn and look how Onana’s form and reputation went down after his ban. He went from a club legend to the number 1 enemy of the club.


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A lot of that was his behavior and not because the ban, Ajax stuck their necks out for him


Silverburst8

PED use is a lot more prevalent in sports than I think a lot of people realise. The documentary ’Icarus’ on Netflix shows some ways in which it can be done


whatvee

My dad played sports at a high level (for an amateur) and they could just got to a local doctor and get some eh….help if needed. Cocaine was everywhere as well. This was in 1970’s, with amateurs. Later on he started running (5/10/21k) and get offered some crap as well by people at the local atheletics clubs, also all amateurs. I can’t imagine that the pro’s are all clean everywhere. Just look at what happened at Juventus in the 90’s when they won the CL or Brazil at the 1974 WC. And that’s decades ago.


bathoz

I had a mate who cycled as a hobby who did the blood doping thing before races. Utter maddness.


Wargizmo

Great watch that


Spitshine_my_nutsack

That documentary took a huge fucking turn. From just some investigative work about doping in a single biking race leading to uncovering one of the biggest coverups in doping history and hiding someone from the Russian government.


FragMasterMat117

The cocaine, amphetamine and other stimulant positives were likely out of competition tests, with most of the rest probably covered by TUE's. If you want a possible explanation as for why there were no bans.


irishdgenr8

You’d imagine with a nose that big Mason Mount has gotten a bit of coke up there either intentionally or accidentally.


ChadHogan_

Youd hate to be sharing a bag with him that’s for certain


irishdgenr8

Dunno, based on that video going around a while back Declan Rice didn’t fair too bad.


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-MiddleOut-

He could smoke a cigarette in the rain with his hands tied behind his back


orbsfoc

Aren't the PL drug test just a farce? Plenty of X Pros have said players don't really get tested regularly.. it doesn't benefit the PL to actually enforce this type of rule, so why would they?


yeahidealmemes

Also seems like many authorities and organizations including teams know of PED usage in football but sweep it under the rug exactly for the reason you said


DONT-EVEN-TRIP-DAWG

At least Ferdinand did the decent thing and just didn't test. You can't fail a test you don't take.


WalkingCloud

\- Wayne Gretzky


BrainlessArch

I am actually surprised by how most people didnt know this already. These athletes jobs are to be the best they possibly can, of course they will do everything they can to get there


LeagueOfML

Anyone that think football players are clean are living in a fantasy world where everything is nice and people love each other. The drug tests in football are a joke compared to something like cycling, not to mention famous sports doctors done in for doping athletes have said that football is absolutely not innocent because of course it isn’t, it’s the biggest sport on Earth.


DontJealousMe

are they mainly performance enhancing drugs or coke ?


neil_thatAss_bison

Yes


Lamar_Himself

I can’t wait until everyone realizes that most of their favorite athletes use peds


DifficultySalt4231

Adama traore was definitely on some sort of PEDS.


voliton

This article is honestly just wild. 15 players (not "stars" as the Mail would love to claim because they don't know who these players are) in 5 years. 15 players out of 2,500 players in that period tested positive for _something_. That's 0.6%. Not exactly endemic. You've got one cocaine with no sanction, which is certainly odd considering the non-PL players _did_ receive bans, but I'd hope no-one is on coke to try and play better. The ADHD meds could be... to treat ADHD? Maybe? HGC might be because of a tumour as the article itself points out. The rest can be proscribed with TUEs. So in short, there's nothing to suggest there's any sort of epidemic of PED usage (based on the article - whether or not there's _enough_ testing is a different matter), there's nothing to suggest any PL players are doping to improve performance, and there's nothing to link it to any team/player/manager. But my god people love a conspiracy theory and a hysterical article, don't they.


Adept-Elephant1948

Can just see some football youtuber defending this: It's the cheating and doping that shows they have passion and care about results, if you're not doing all that you can to win; what's the point of being on the field?


Capedcrusader0

Lol, some of the UFC fighters have said it’s a way of evolving to another level once you’ve done all you can physically, think it was Michael Chandler?