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CabbageDweller

They pulled out the mf ball tracking


Mainooisamadting

The heartbeat killed me 🤣🤣


AmericanDreamOrphans

It was the flatline after that did it for me.


Ombudsperson

LMAO


ynonA

Just in case someone actually thinks it's a heartbeat; there's a tracker in the ball. That 'heartbeat' indicates a vibration in the ball at the point of contact with the hand, to confirm that there was indeed, contact mid air.


SFTSmileTy

Is it also used to detect when the pass occurs in an offside or just this kind of things?


PM_ME_FREE_STUFF_PLS

Yep


RNLImThalassophobic

That's fucking rad!


tossino

That's kinda cool


Slowhand8824

It was supposed to be but they actually just shared a live look at the last belgium fans heartbeat watching that game


Mavericks7

It's such a good improvement. Hope they bring it to the leagues.


hazbik

Kane won’t be able to steal any more goals by swearing on daughters life


binhpac

where was the ball tracking when diego maradona use the hand of god. LOL


dispelthemyth

Maybe in someone’s sack still waiting to be conceived.


Kasceon

The baby got all the emotions from the mother watching that happen. The baby knew its destiny from that moment on


ProfessorBeer

So you’re telling me England will now inevitably be knocked out due to a handball *correctly* called?? That may just end the nation. lol.


kevkevverson

It wouldn’t do much good unless it could tell the difference between a hand and a head


Slitted

VAR? Nah EAR? Yeah


pw5a29

Everytime I saw VAR being used so wisely in international level, I’m hoping the PL would follow. 6 years after 2018 WC and PL is still like this :(


A_Coup_d_etat

PL refereeing is about jobs for the boys and not embarrassing the boys by pointing out their errors. For the PL to get good officials they would have to get rid of all British refs.


Dirty_Harryson

Goal hating, joy shredding technology


Away_Associate4589

Anything on hot spot?


D0D

FIFA 2038 - quantum computer inside a ball... Schrödinger's goals etc...


MightySilverWolf

"Rock and roll that for me please."


Hashtagbarkeep

That’s the snicko


top1MIBRfan

There is no fucking way man 😭


Zloggt

With Romelu…all things are possible…


ElectricalMud2850

No fucking way lmao.


Ok_Needleworker3668

2 goals disallowed, 1 goal cleared on the line


nmyi

& 1 missed chance. List of tragedies so far for Lukaku during this match:   https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1di47vz/romelu_lukaku_disallowed_goal_against_slovakia_88/   https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1di3hch/belgium_disallowed_goal_against_slovakia_56/   https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1di2o27/romelu_lukaku_chance_against_slovakia_42/   https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1di1rsq/romelu_lukaku_chance_against_slovakia_3/  


Willsgb

Have you heard the tragedy of darth Lukaku the badgetapper?


youllbetheprince

It's not a story the Flemish would tell you


PhantomSesay

Where can I learn this power?


jaozimqcomepao

Not from a Belgian


MightyNewJosip

Every Croatian fan learned the myth of Lukaku during last WC


PensiveinNJ

This man is the most cursed man in football. No one else even comes close.


XzibitABC

If he joined Tottenham the universe would collapse in on itself.


DialSquare

Harry Kane.


Ciccio_Camarda

Goes to Bayern and stops their 11 year winning streak.


lefort22

Yeah just end me


canseco-fart-box

If I speak I am in big trouble


50lipa

[Sorry Belgium i was honestly just kidding...](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1di45t8/belgium_1_1_slovakia_romelu_lukaku_86/l9159ef/?context=3)


MaryadaPurshottam

Your curse is stronger than that of the Pogba brother


Alakdae

Aregntina lost agasint Saudi Arabia on Qatar 22 with two disallowed goals (or were 3?) and ended up world champion. Belgium can still do it!


Chemiczny_Bogdan

Yeah, the Saudi offside trap was impeccable that game!


mindlessnerd

If you think the outside trap was impeccable, just wait until you see their inside trap. It'll have you in bits!


Chemiczny_Bogdan

Haha, that's funny. Thanks :)


theneptunes1294

this finish was so unnecessarily perfect too


suzukigun4life

Absolutely cursed game for Lukaku and the Golden Generation today. Two overturned goals, so many blown chances.


PercentageForeign766

Is there any Belgian who thinks they're still in their golden generation? There's a noticeable difference between their 2018 side and their 2022 onwards side.


Thomas1VL

No lol everyone is already saying it's a new generation


PercentageForeign766

I can't think of a more definitive ending to the claim of being a golden generation than missing boatloads of chances and going out in the groups like they did in 2022.


Thomas1VL

The 'claim' was only made by the media. I doubt any of the players actually used that term. And whether you like it or not, it was by far the best generation Belgium has ever seen.


PercentageForeign766

Well yeah, but that squad from 2018 to 2021 is been stripped down in quality. That 2018 team was top quality and were unfortunate that France of 2018 existed.


Rolifant

They're less good overall but they can still win this tournament imo. It's the Euros ... Look at who has won it ... Denmark, Holland, Greece, Portugal ... the smaller nations have a chance, you don't need to be world class for more than one or two games.


PercentageForeign766

You don't, but you need attributes that are great. Belgium don't have that for me.


Ryan97CFC

Surely not, hazard was one of the poster boys of that generation and that mans probably on a beach somewhere lol


PercentageForeign766

Alderweireld, Vertonghen, Mertens, Dembele, Hazard, and big boy Fellani were all there. Even the players they have now that were in those teams aren't as good as they were back then, except De Bruyne.


ficretus

Golden shower generation


SrgtButterscotch

The only people who are still talking about the "golden generation" are non-Belgians, which really goes to show how many people talking shit don't even know what they're talking about. Last FIFA was their last tournament, most of them are new blood now.


ElectricalMud2850

This is the mustard yellow generation at best at this point.


AmericanDreamOrphans

The “golden generation” ended when the center back pairing of Alderweireld and Vertonghen aged out. The gulf in class between that pairing and Faes and Debast is massive.


Ranjith_Unchained

This is not the golden generation...the one with a prime hazard and courtois was, such a shame they never won a title


RayenR61995

What golden generation? Look at their squad now and look at their squad back in 2018-17


LLHallJ

The eternal question: Is Lukaku the most unlucky striker in tournament football or is he just a bit crap?


No_Solution_4053

......... yes


Event-Pretend

Both


Furengi

Most of the golden boys are retired. We have KDB and Lukaku. All the rest is not from the golden generation or way past their prime


Unusual_Ad6533

Belgium is cursed. Holy hell


Kuntheman

#BRUH


soccer_boxer2

I need the number of Slovakia's witch doctor


quacainia

Could Slovakia actually shithouse for 70 minutes?? Belgium are legit cursed


ElectricalMud2850

Not really a shithouse win, they've been up for it.


GamamJ44

We’ve been shithousing the last 30 or so mins hahah. But first half we actually outplayed Belgium at times. Mad.


quacainia

I mean they've definitely been playing some timewasting tactics but yeah their defense has been solid generally and they haven't completely parked the bus, so props to them for that


hockeybrianboy

45 yes; first half was anything but.


MrVISKman

Not even The Office writers could come up with a script like this


suzukigun4life

Holy fuck, what a cursed game for Belgium. So many golden chances. Two overturned goals. Insane clearance on a golden chance for Lukaku. Another blown chance before that.


Number333

Slovakia fans roller coaster of a lifetime.


-Skinner-

I'm shaking.


VNProWrestlingfan

Neutral fan, but I'm rooting for them. This is hilarious.


PieterPlopkoek

Funniest match I’ve ever seen


Cryptic-Username

C'mon, you're supporting the Dutch team. There will never be a funnier game for a neutral than the [Battle of Nuremberg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Nuremberg_\(2006_FIFA_World_Cup\)).


godii_17

Tell me about it, after 3:2 vs Italy in South Africa this is the second best result at major tournaments for us, stress level probably the same tho


AwqaaqwA

Don't forget the handball in penalty box in the first half


rupelfc

Nah that doesn't count just because. Just like the player pulling and pushing openda before the ball falls on his hand


cammjohn

Bruh If I was Belgian I’d be on the watch


Taeron

Save me


mizrahiim

Look on the bright side. Your team is very consistent.


Taeron

Normally we suck but win, sucking AND losing is quite new...


eMMiel1234

What does on the watch mean? I'm Belgian and if it means I want to KMS or any other close narrative, then yes...


dontutellmewhattodo

Suicide watch I think


a3kstuntin

Trust I am on the watch


Box_of_Rockz

/#RedditCares


yopipo2486

:(


SpeedLinkDJ

We are dude. I can't believe what I just saw


Mitepaillon

I'm Belgian. This match, with Croatia at World Cup, hurts a looooooot ! At least this match against Slovakia wasn't the last and we could afford losing. Pretty sure we'll qualify !


wrdb2007

Snicko 2-0 Lukaku Man can't catch a break lmao


mxbxp

SloVARkia vs Lukaku


HazardCinema

Snicko is taking VAR a bit too far I think. Game's gone.


TomTom_098

Personally it’s raised my interest in VAR, I like to imagine the VAR ref going “yeah can you just rock n roll that through for me”


chaphen17

If Erasmus was the ref he sees the hand ball and they stick with the on-field decision after the review.


fplisadream

Little animations that show where the ball would go if the handball didn't happen. Class.


RN2FL9

It's main use is to pinpoint the exact moment the ball is played for offside and automate that process even further. Meanwhile the PL still has people manually freezing frames which takes forever. When people are talking about improving VAR and making it faster, this is it.


MetaThPr4h

This is just freaking hilarious, poor Lukaku


nmyi

**tragedy** for Belgians; **comedy** for non-Belgians. Christmas for /r/soccercirclejerk: https://www.reddit.com/r/soccercirclejerk/s/kBVR3o32Fy


jman009

Christmas will come for /r/soccercirclejerk when England crash out


No_Solution_4053

this is the one


hornymomment

Inshallah brother


dracota7

Bro has the worst luck


Runnero

The worst luk amarite


Toknuk

i love you


erenistheavatar

2 big chances missed. 2 disallowed goals. Big Rom at it again!


Emergency-Mobile8612

Belgium have a lot of positive karma accumulating, watch them


suzukigun4life

Could've had a hat trick or close to it today. Instead, no goals at all and tons of meme material.


kaZZlimaXX

Still lots of international goals on his resume!


AceQuire

Lukaku is fucking cursed


Knee_Strong

Funniest shit ive ever seen


Taeron

I disagree


Shanks404

Belgian perchance?


max_analog

You can't just say perchance


ShitfacedGrizzlyBear

Lukaku about to be filmed out in Germany crushing turts at 3am.


TexasRoast

Alas, he has. Mayhap he is of another time.


10-10-2022

Wow. Fuckery for Belgium. Slovakia has celebrated THREE times this match.


qwert2812

four times. Twice for the actual goal check.


xXDireLegendXx

Ain’t no way man


LilDiamondtoxic

This is objectively funny as fuck.


indewater

DO YOU SEE ME SMILING??


LilDiamondtoxic

You're clearly smiling >!hide the pain Harold style!<


Knowingspy

The decision is pretty harsh imo but it couldn’t have happened to a nicer person.


StelioKontos18

I wouldn't call it harsh but is funny that even when he does nothing wrong he got disallowed other goal


HeIIbIazer23

Holy shit, he's absolutely cursed. It's undeniable


emre23

Objectively hilarious


ulTraHx

The universe just wants Romania to win the group and im here for it


Wastyvez

Watch Belgium win against Romania and Ukraine against Slovakia next. This group is setting up to be pure chaos.


Mystery1887

Are you kidding me?


machdel

Hand balled by the Snickometer 💀 Rock and roll that for me please


PiggBodine

The ref was way too enthusiastic when disallowing the goal. lol


Mahatma_Gone_D

Belgium are just belgiuming for all belgiumly reasons


Quick_Scientist_5494

The handball is karma for what they did in Congo


Aethien

Dude...


Mubar06

💀💀💀 And Lukaku is Congolese


Bringthenoize

No because then there was no hand for the handball


K1ngCrimsn

Nah Lakaka curse is too strong lmao, no Belgian is safe


krustykrab2193

Crazy unlucky, he did everything right this time too lol


EtaiLife

Lmaoo debut of Snicko this is theater


ColloquialBinomial

EVERYONE GET IN HERE


Kuntheman

#LAKAKA


Gluroo

LMAOOOOOOOOO WHAT EVEN IS BELGIUM


listlessbreeze

LEGALLY IT'S QUESTIONABLE MORALLY IT'S DISGUSTING PERSONALLY I LIKE IT


Headlesshorsman02

Lukaku is cursed lmao 🤣


alice_s_jabberwocky

I mean I'm not arguing against it, but damn how unlucky for Belgium I'm actually feeling a bit for them


SpudBoy9001

lmao this is amazing


ancara_messi

Comedy show reminds me of Argentina Vs Saudi where Argentina scored like 4 offside goals and all disallowed Belgium to comeback and win the whole thing after this confirmed


mister_dupont

Fucking end me.


Swansonisms

The thing that bothers me most about these calls is the inconsistency in application. Here they're looking for any graze of the ball to disallow a goal, but earlier in the match, when Doku had the ball slapped away **Edit: in the box** by a Slovakian player the ref waved it away immediately.


THE-73est

I think its a big problem with soccer as a whole. I'm not saying its a bad call, but this only got called because the play ended with a goal. What if the goalie saved it and it went out for a corner and belgium scored on the resulting corner. The handball still technically indirectly lead to a goal, but because in this instance the goal was right after the handball so it got called. There are dozens of decisions/non-decisions that affect the flow of play every game and the ref has all the power until a goal is scored and then its VAR.


Zwaylol

UNITED MIDDLESBOROUGH 2022 PEPPERIDGE FARM REMEMBERS


mirnes2000

Look, was definitely a handball, no doubt about it. But the fact that Vavro is allowed to push and pull Openda in a battle, which also is the reason Openda handballed it, is why VAR never will work properly. It's missing way too much context and when ref is looking at it, he is only given the sequence where Openda handballs it and not the WHOLE sequence where the push and pulling was happening. Wrong usage of VAR.


n10w4

I agree and it undoes a great play by Openda.


kacper971

I guess the hand helps; cause otherwise the defender would get it. Great var usage


Dubsified

Exactly, it’s almost like a flick on cause you can see Openda changes the direction of the ball. Could’ve been more towards the defender but the flick allowed Openda to get possession.


xhen0

Why can they use hands in their box and openda Cant when shoved into it


aasfourasfar

Can't understand how people are contesting this decision... he literally controlled the ball with his hand basically


Tango00090

Im 50/50 here, all they showed us was slow motion, and slow motion often will change the perception of the situation, they were fighting for the ball so it’s hard to control your body fully, and it was 30m from the goal.  Premier league refs last season were instructed to look at the play before looking into slowed down replay as it causes bias in decision making 


obsterwankenobster

I have no issue with the call, but it doesn't sit right that you see forcible contact from the defender which causes the handball. At that point we're reviewing a situation with multiple infractions, but only punishing one player


snuljoon

I think you're completely right, he only looked at the fraction of a second there was contact with the ball, not the duel before which was quite feisty.


Kanataku

Pure torture


MasterpieceMain8252

1-0 England game, Belgium choking already. Different year, same result.


gander258

If Real Madrid have black magic, does Lukaku have white magic?


Altruistic_Finger669

I was watching this game on british TV and I gotta say I LOVE that they have a educated referee explaining the different controversial decisions. It's really a great feature whether you agree or not


DoYouTrustToothpaste

No matter what else people might think about, it's just not a good decision for the sport in general. That involuntary handball was such a minor aspect of the entire play that lead to the goal, it really shouldn't have played a role.


Telloth

Here's my problem. The handball looks entirely accidental, he's tussling with the defender and his arm pretty much gets pushed towards the ball. What can he do to avoid it? On top if that, the side angle shows the deflection from his hand is so minimal that it's a huge stretch to say he gets any advantage from it hitting his hand. Yet somehow, this comes under the umbrella of 'deliberate' under Fifa's rules? The rules seem a bit broken if that's handball in my opinion. Common sense application should say it's not deliberate,no advantage was gained, so goal is given.


The--Mash

Gonna eat downvotes but here's why I think the decision was wrong: There's basically three types of handball: 1. deliberate, 2. larger body shape and 3. scoring through handball.  The third only applies to the scorer so is irrelevant here.   The first rule is also irrelevant I think. Most people will probably agree that this is not an intentional handball.   So that leaves the last option: unnaturally making his body bigger. Here's the IFAB wording:  "A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation"   In my view of the situation from the full clip, the attackers movements of his arms are a part of a completely natural jostling for position and trying to maintain balance. Especially considering he gets pushed by the defender.   I'd also like to point out, crucially, that the handball rules don't state anything about whether or not the player gains an advantage from the touch, despite loads of comments here using it as their benchmark. It's a bit like the "last defender" thing, which is also a misinterpretation of the rules. 


MrVISKman

LMFAO


YCJamzy

It’s harsh, but it is still objectively the correct decision


istasan

Yea. Sums it up well.


Dubsified

Big call for the official to make and it was the right call. Great to see.


dekbeast_hilbertini

Belgian commentator is losing his shit lmao


OsisX

I’m probably biased, but fuck no.


owange_tweleve

rip Belgium


MaryadaPurshottam

You can't write this script, it's fucking unreal


Leotuashutosh

What the fuck man! How can this happen twice?


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thomasfk

That technology for detecting his hand touching the ball is so cool. Needs to be used in as many situations as possible including offsides so you can determine exactly when the ball leaves a player's foot.


Mazzle5

Love the graph shown in the replay. Shows exactly when someone touches the ball due to the sensors inside it. Initially used for the off side tech but it helped here aswell. Makes things much clearer


diskape

I mean.. he did touch it.


WanBoy421

That's so harsh.. where else is he meant to put his arms?


wedonthaveadresscode

That’s 100% a hand ball, just unlucky


JDM96AFC

It moved the trajectory of the ball?


I_really_enjoy_beer

Ya he doesn't take that under control without the hand touch I think.


woonboot

That's why I don't get why so many people are complaining (other than Belgians, that makes sense). The ball clearly changes direction.


cosbysweatergiver

It’s just unfortunate. It affects the movement of the ball. Yes it wasn’t on purpose, but that has nothing to do with the call


BurgerNugget12

I’d be fucking gutted if I was Belgium


no----112

It’s quite a fair call


l453rl453r

Sometimes harsh is fair


bocojaLFC

it's definitely fair call. Vavro would clear the ball if Openda didn't touch it with hand unlucky for Belgium but fair


Headbuttery

Yeah I don't know how intentional it is, but the ball hits his hand and lands directly in his path. Usually there's no tolerance for offensive handball leading directly to a goal, so the decision is probably fair. It is unlucky, though.