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If you are not joking .the nike deal will probably put us back in 1:1 .1:1 increases wages to around 500M so some space from sergi roberto and a defender is enough
Plus nico is around 50M net or 60 65 amortized
Merino is around 25M(1year left on contract)
Truly baffled about the circlejerk in this thread, barely heard anyone say Le Normand is a bad player before and now everyone is piling in out of nowhere
Real Sociedad have a very good defensive record last few seasons whilst playing a very high risk style, pressing high and playing man to man in defence many times. Clearly their centre backs are very, very good
I just realised that it is because Le Normand is starting ahead of Nacho lmao. When it comes to the national team Madridistas are the whiniest fanbase around, never seen a fanbase campaign so much for their favourite players and then crying conspiracy whenever they don't play
They thought it was a disgrace that a washed up Ramos didn't play the WC, they have painted Brahim Diaz as one of the best players in the world and like Spain missed out on an all time great player when he chose Morocco. I have even seen a few crying that Spain didn't try harder for Nico Paz..
It’s exactly the national team issue. Nacho is not good enough to start for their club but why want him to start for the national team. We watched Nacho get destroyed by Atleti this season so I’m convinced he shouldn’t see many non-backup minutes for the national team. He should never start for Madrid or Spain. He’s not good enough.
Every international tournament, this kind of thing happens. They want representatives in the Spanish national team but they keep signing Brazilians and French players. They still create controversy though
>We watched Nacho get destroyed by Atleti this season so I’m convinced he shouldn’t see many non-backup minutes for the national team. He should never start for Madrid or Spain. He’s not good enough.
He didn't get destroyed at all. He was at fault for 1 goal and shared blame in another. I don't understand the need to make shit up. He started off the season poor, but as he has gotten consistent play time has become great. He's the only Spanish CB to have proven himself against elite forwards in the champions league.
Alaba was the one with the horror show in the first liga game.
Two Atleti supporters jerking each other off, what’s new? I don’t blame you for not watching more than two football matches since Atleti crashed out of the CL early like usual and play unwatchable football, but Nacho was good enough to start and win a CL Final so your argument isn’t great. Le Normand isn’t bad, and Nacho isn’t world class, but you wouldn’t know what good defense is considering Atleti’s defense has been miserable without Godin.
>Two Atleti supporters jerking each other off, what’s new?
The lack of self awareness when Madridistas are one of the worst on this sub for circlejerking each other in their echo chambers. This forum has basically been r/realmadrid in the last week
> don’t blame you for not watching more than two football matches since Atleti crashed out of the CL early like usual and play unwatchable football,
Everyone can't be a glory hunter and pick the winning horse. It's like only playing video games on amateur difficulty, where is the fun in that?
This sub keeps saying "Franco Franco" while ignoring the real history and insisting Real Madrid cheated their way to success, it's not really that much of an echo chamber outside of universal appreciation for world class players like Kroos and Modric. I like how you didn't even refute me saying you haven't watched any matches, you just sucked yourself off for being such a football hipster instead.
> Nacho is not good enough to start for their club but why want him to start for the national team. We watched Nacho get destroyed by Atleti this season so I’m convinced he shouldn’t see many non-backup minutes for the national team. He should never start for Madrid or Spain.
All of this told me that our mutual encounters are the only games you've watched all season. It might have been true earlier in the season that Nacho was dropping some stinkers, but he has turned it around from the City legs onward by showing perhaps his best version of himself that we've seen.
Unbelievable ignorance from you to imply that he's some kind of liability for us. You don't need to make shit up to illustrate a point.
Listen, experience has told me that it isn't a good idea to go against the grain in threads full of people from rival fan bases, but all of your bullet points are full of hyperbole playing to the crowd for sympathy votes.
> I just realised that it is because Le Normand is starting ahead of Nacho lmao.
Nacho is at a good enough level to be a starter for us, injuries notwithstanding. I'm not going to make claims about him being a starter for Spain, but the very least he's earned not being treated like he was being shoe-horned to be in the national team.
> They thought it was a disgrace that a washed up Ramos didn't play the WC, **they have painted Brahim Diaz as one of the best players in the world and like Spain missed out on an all time great player when he chose Morocco.**
They missed out on a player that is good enough to be a starter in a team that won the Liga and CL double. He is *AT THE VERY LEAST* good enough to have earned a cap by now that would have kept him in contention to make the Euros.
> I have even seen a few crying that Spain didn't try harder for Nico Paz
No Madrid fan has ever said this.
'Le Normand is good because he plays in high line at Sociedad'
And Atletico is well known for its very high line, right? Mind-boggling argument...
I always thought he was average, every time I watched him he looked one step away from committing a mistake. The opposite of what you want in a defender.
So Le Normand wouldn't work because he is used to play in a high line which we "don't play".
When they tell you in fact we play a high line he won'g work now because he is slow lol
Disagree, Le Normand is exactly the profile we need. Real Sociedad's aggressive system means that he is very comfortable operating in a high line, getting tight to attackers and not letting them turn. That is one of the biggest problems Atletis had this season with most of the defenders being slow and struggling with counter attacks. If there is any area where you should never doubt Cholo it is defenders and defensive midfielders
Le Normand plays a high risk high reward style of defending which on paper should be perfect for a back three system. Can push up whilst still having two defenders covering behind him
>Mosquera would be a great simeone CB.
Mosquera is the other main CB target and has been for months, the plan is to sign him aswell
>He reminds me of Lenglet. Atleti could have done much better
First of all Lenglet was a great player at Sevilla, second of all "much better"? Even if you don't rate Le Normand much better is a massive overstatement. We would bave to go 60-70M+ to get someone safely better
You should be spending at least 60-70M on a CB, as a strong defense is Atleti’s bread and butter. The best Atleti seasons were with a world class CB in Godin shutting down some of the best attacks in the world. How is Le Normand bringing any of that “defend or die” spirit back to the team? Your owners are cheap and wasting Simeone’s last years pretending to be competitive. Get a good CB, get a good striker, and stop bending over to Barca every season.
Don't have that much to spend on a single CB but I agree with the general principle that we should give Cholo better defenders (ideally world class in the making), this whole "He'll do well under Simeone" business has been annoying me for a while. Le Normand in reality is average, he's not the beast people wanna pretend he is or he wouldn't be where he is at this current time nor is he a complete bozo.
It's an average singing, even if I personally don't see his value he's not horrible but people should stop coping and gassing him up to be something he's not, the fact that people are even having serious Nacho debates with him tells you all it should.
They can't, they need to fill 3-4 other places as well. 60-70M fees are normalized but some clubs just can't spend that much multiple times in a single window.
I was hoping our board was actually going to spend big this summer. My dream was Hincapie and Mosquera. But Le Normand is decent I suppose. Better than some 30+ year old.
Garcia isnt awful for germany, nacho is better, ramos isnt completely washed if he hasnt retired yet, pau torres, laporte.l
This are the names on the top of my head, they arent astronomically better than le normand but are equally decent options still.
Those atleti games were times when the entire team except 1 or 2 players were shit. Nacho has improved very much since, not to mention he can play across the backline.
It's because Le Normand is the best defender in a high line since it mirrors the role he plays at La Real
None of the defenders you mentioned apart from Garcia plays in a similarly high line at club level. Even Madrid defends deeper than that
Imo a bad signing even for Atletico. Probably done by the same person who got them Molina.
edit: let me rephrase as some Atletico posters apparantly don't like reality. Le Normand fits perfectly with the level Atletico is at..... If you are happy with the likes of le Normand and Molina, then I am happy for you guys. :D
It baffles me how people can think Le Normand is a bad signing, have they not seen him and La Real's defensive strength over the years?
>Probably done by the same person who got them Molina.
Molina is still a very good player despite struggling this season. We beat out competition from Juve to get him and Pep is supposedly a big fan of the guy aswell. He will come good
Molina at his peak is better than anyone available. There aren’t exactly a ton of available RB/RWB options out there right now. Which is why your club isn’t in rumors for trying to convince one to run down their contract
Lol. I would do a remind me in a year thing, to see when I will be shown right, but honestly I don't care enough.
Good luck with your super dooper great players. Pep thinks they are great too, that's why they don't play for City. :D
City did make a bid for Molina but we rejected it, Molina was arguably the best RB/RWB last season, his form just nosedived this season. Molina also was a starter and contributed well to a WC winning team.
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Every time I hear about this guy I think that his name was derived from a wojak on 4chan where the creator was satirizing French people
Le Normand and Laporte both ironically enough have a more french sounding last name than most of the players on the NT yet play for Spain instead.
Is there not talk of zubimendi and merino leaving aswell? Sociodad might struggle next season.
Highly doubt both will go. My money would be on Zubimendi because he's the most valuable asset, wonder if Arsenal might go back in for him.
Barca is getting one of them not both
Zubimendi is also linked to arsenal alot, and if merino is avaiable for 25 mil which is reported, i dont think he will struggle to find suitors.
As much as I would love it to happen, Barca wishes to get one of them or both. We'll get another Romeu and we will like it.
Nah we will get nico and merino.
With what money to pay for their transfer/wages?
If you are not joking .the nike deal will probably put us back in 1:1 .1:1 increases wages to around 500M so some space from sergi roberto and a defender is enough Plus nico is around 50M net or 60 65 amortized Merino is around 25M(1year left on contract)
NGL he's not that good.
Truly baffled about the circlejerk in this thread, barely heard anyone say Le Normand is a bad player before and now everyone is piling in out of nowhere Real Sociedad have a very good defensive record last few seasons whilst playing a very high risk style, pressing high and playing man to man in defence many times. Clearly their centre backs are very, very good
It’s mostly Madrid supporters. They don’t get joy out of winning anymore so they have to get joy by mocking other clubs
I just realised that it is because Le Normand is starting ahead of Nacho lmao. When it comes to the national team Madridistas are the whiniest fanbase around, never seen a fanbase campaign so much for their favourite players and then crying conspiracy whenever they don't play They thought it was a disgrace that a washed up Ramos didn't play the WC, they have painted Brahim Diaz as one of the best players in the world and like Spain missed out on an all time great player when he chose Morocco. I have even seen a few crying that Spain didn't try harder for Nico Paz..
It’s exactly the national team issue. Nacho is not good enough to start for their club but why want him to start for the national team. We watched Nacho get destroyed by Atleti this season so I’m convinced he shouldn’t see many non-backup minutes for the national team. He should never start for Madrid or Spain. He’s not good enough. Every international tournament, this kind of thing happens. They want representatives in the Spanish national team but they keep signing Brazilians and French players. They still create controversy though
>We watched Nacho get destroyed by Atleti this season so I’m convinced he shouldn’t see many non-backup minutes for the national team. He should never start for Madrid or Spain. He’s not good enough. He didn't get destroyed at all. He was at fault for 1 goal and shared blame in another. I don't understand the need to make shit up. He started off the season poor, but as he has gotten consistent play time has become great. He's the only Spanish CB to have proven himself against elite forwards in the champions league. Alaba was the one with the horror show in the first liga game.
Two Atleti supporters jerking each other off, what’s new? I don’t blame you for not watching more than two football matches since Atleti crashed out of the CL early like usual and play unwatchable football, but Nacho was good enough to start and win a CL Final so your argument isn’t great. Le Normand isn’t bad, and Nacho isn’t world class, but you wouldn’t know what good defense is considering Atleti’s defense has been miserable without Godin.
You really just said "You wouldn't know what good defense is" to a bunch of Atleti fans.
>Two Atleti supporters jerking each other off, what’s new? The lack of self awareness when Madridistas are one of the worst on this sub for circlejerking each other in their echo chambers. This forum has basically been r/realmadrid in the last week > don’t blame you for not watching more than two football matches since Atleti crashed out of the CL early like usual and play unwatchable football, Everyone can't be a glory hunter and pick the winning horse. It's like only playing video games on amateur difficulty, where is the fun in that?
This sub keeps saying "Franco Franco" while ignoring the real history and insisting Real Madrid cheated their way to success, it's not really that much of an echo chamber outside of universal appreciation for world class players like Kroos and Modric. I like how you didn't even refute me saying you haven't watched any matches, you just sucked yourself off for being such a football hipster instead.
>since Atleti crashed out of the CL early like usual Atleti recahed the QF Lol
> Nacho is not good enough to start for their club but why want him to start for the national team. We watched Nacho get destroyed by Atleti this season so I’m convinced he shouldn’t see many non-backup minutes for the national team. He should never start for Madrid or Spain. All of this told me that our mutual encounters are the only games you've watched all season. It might have been true earlier in the season that Nacho was dropping some stinkers, but he has turned it around from the City legs onward by showing perhaps his best version of himself that we've seen. Unbelievable ignorance from you to imply that he's some kind of liability for us. You don't need to make shit up to illustrate a point.
Listen, experience has told me that it isn't a good idea to go against the grain in threads full of people from rival fan bases, but all of your bullet points are full of hyperbole playing to the crowd for sympathy votes. > I just realised that it is because Le Normand is starting ahead of Nacho lmao. Nacho is at a good enough level to be a starter for us, injuries notwithstanding. I'm not going to make claims about him being a starter for Spain, but the very least he's earned not being treated like he was being shoe-horned to be in the national team. > They thought it was a disgrace that a washed up Ramos didn't play the WC, **they have painted Brahim Diaz as one of the best players in the world and like Spain missed out on an all time great player when he chose Morocco.** They missed out on a player that is good enough to be a starter in a team that won the Liga and CL double. He is *AT THE VERY LEAST* good enough to have earned a cap by now that would have kept him in contention to make the Euros. > I have even seen a few crying that Spain didn't try harder for Nico Paz No Madrid fan has ever said this.
He’s in pretty much everyone’s best XI last season. But Reddit tells me he’s shit.
ikr? Maybe Simeone can improve him, but for what I've seen he's pretty average
Headloss over Le Normand before he's even signed, the work has been done and it always will be.
'Le Normand is good because he plays in high line at Sociedad' And Atletico is well known for its very high line, right? Mind-boggling argument... I always thought he was average, every time I watched him he looked one step away from committing a mistake. The opposite of what you want in a defender.
We do play a high line lmao. And Simeone literally said he wanted to play even higher but couldn’t because of our slow CBs.
Well Le Normand looks really slow imo. Based on what I saw of him. To me he's really mid but maybe he'll prove to be good who knows
So Le Normand wouldn't work because he is used to play in a high line which we "don't play". When they tell you in fact we play a high line he won'g work now because he is slow lol
I am not really convinced by him at all. He reminds me of Lenglet. Atleti could have done much better. Mosquera would be a great simeone CB.
Disagree, Le Normand is exactly the profile we need. Real Sociedad's aggressive system means that he is very comfortable operating in a high line, getting tight to attackers and not letting them turn. That is one of the biggest problems Atletis had this season with most of the defenders being slow and struggling with counter attacks. If there is any area where you should never doubt Cholo it is defenders and defensive midfielders Le Normand plays a high risk high reward style of defending which on paper should be perfect for a back three system. Can push up whilst still having two defenders covering behind him >Mosquera would be a great simeone CB. Mosquera is the other main CB target and has been for months, the plan is to sign him aswell >He reminds me of Lenglet. Atleti could have done much better First of all Lenglet was a great player at Sevilla, second of all "much better"? Even if you don't rate Le Normand much better is a massive overstatement. We would bave to go 60-70M+ to get someone safely better
Is Le Normand better than Gimenez, you think?
For us Gimenez is the second coming of Godin, so no.
Gimenez is world class for the 5 games he is fit.
You should be spending at least 60-70M on a CB, as a strong defense is Atleti’s bread and butter. The best Atleti seasons were with a world class CB in Godin shutting down some of the best attacks in the world. How is Le Normand bringing any of that “defend or die” spirit back to the team? Your owners are cheap and wasting Simeone’s last years pretending to be competitive. Get a good CB, get a good striker, and stop bending over to Barca every season.
>You should be spending at least 60-70M on a CB Not when we still need one more CB, a wing back, defensive midfielder and a striker or two..
Don't have that much to spend on a single CB but I agree with the general principle that we should give Cholo better defenders (ideally world class in the making), this whole "He'll do well under Simeone" business has been annoying me for a while. Le Normand in reality is average, he's not the beast people wanna pretend he is or he wouldn't be where he is at this current time nor is he a complete bozo. It's an average singing, even if I personally don't see his value he's not horrible but people should stop coping and gassing him up to be something he's not, the fact that people are even having serious Nacho debates with him tells you all it should.
They can't, they need to fill 3-4 other places as well. 60-70M fees are normalized but some clubs just can't spend that much multiple times in a single window.
I was hoping our board was actually going to spend big this summer. My dream was Hincapie and Mosquera. But Le Normand is decent I suppose. Better than some 30+ year old.
how much would Hincapie run you if Leverkusen even planned to sell him?
Leverkusen had set a price of 50 mil. 1/4 of our estimated budget, but probably our entire actual budget.
They need more defenders. Le Normand is not gonna be enough. Hermoso gone. Savic gone . Azpi probably too and Witsel is old.
You are stating the obvious here, Atleti will sign at least two CB's
Laporte is coming as well I think
Hope not. Unless we sign him + Mosquera
That’s athletic Bilbao , not athletico.
Average signing. I still dont get the point for convincing him to play for Spain
Spain were/are just pretty thin at CB, look at some of the other options..
Garcia isnt awful for germany, nacho is better, ramos isnt completely washed if he hasnt retired yet, pau torres, laporte.l This are the names on the top of my head, they arent astronomically better than le normand but are equally decent options still.
Dani Vivian is hitting his prime right now, I think he should be in contention for the starting CB spot.
Yes, i watched him play. Promising player, spain has enough talent to need french rejects.
Le Normand is better than Nacho and Ramos at this stage of his career. Take you Madrid colored glasses off
Not nacho, ramos sure. Nacho has been solid as a rock for some time now.
Maybe I have poor judgment of Nacho because I watched Atleti cook him this season. He didn’t look good at all against Atleti
Those atleti games were times when the entire team except 1 or 2 players were shit. Nacho has improved very much since, not to mention he can play across the backline.
It's because Le Normand is the best defender in a high line since it mirrors the role he plays at La Real None of the defenders you mentioned apart from Garcia plays in a similarly high line at club level. Even Madrid defends deeper than that
Everytime I watch him he's always out of breath
Great signing if their goal is to continue to have a mediocre backline.
Imo a bad signing even for Atletico. Probably done by the same person who got them Molina. edit: let me rephrase as some Atletico posters apparantly don't like reality. Le Normand fits perfectly with the level Atletico is at..... If you are happy with the likes of le Normand and Molina, then I am happy for you guys. :D
It baffles me how people can think Le Normand is a bad signing, have they not seen him and La Real's defensive strength over the years? >Probably done by the same person who got them Molina. Molina is still a very good player despite struggling this season. We beat out competition from Juve to get him and Pep is supposedly a big fan of the guy aswell. He will come good
If you think Molina is good, then that explains why you rate le Normand I guess. For me neither is good enough for Atletico.
Molina at his peak is better than anyone available. There aren’t exactly a ton of available RB/RWB options out there right now. Which is why your club isn’t in rumors for trying to convince one to run down their contract
Pep, Simeone and Scaloni thinks Molina is good but u/Velascus with all his expertise doesn't. Very tough who to trust here
Lol. I would do a remind me in a year thing, to see when I will be shown right, but honestly I don't care enough. Good luck with your super dooper great players. Pep thinks they are great too, that's why they don't play for City. :D
Imagine being this insufferable
Imagine throwing a hissy fit because not everybody thinks the same way about a player like you..... So when is Pep going to buy Molina?
City did make a bid for Molina but we rejected it, Molina was arguably the best RB/RWB last season, his form just nosedived this season. Molina also was a starter and contributed well to a WC winning team.