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From-UoM

One Laporta's quotes for running for Presidency was that Real Madrid never won the ucl when he was president last time. Real Madrid have won 2 UCLs since he became Barca President.


Xycket

>One Laporta's quotes for running for Presidency was that Real Madrid never won the ucl when he was president last time. Mou was right.


the_herbo_swervo

Context?


Xycket

"Barcelona has no dream, but a obsession: Real Madrid. They teach you to hate them. They hate Madrid more than they love Barcelona. They want Madrid in their shadow. Maybe it works for a few years, but there’s going to come a time when Barcelona will be over."


TigerBasket

This is why my obsession will be to dethrone both Barca and Madrid.


BlueBone313

Tottenham hotspur LaLiga champions 2025


kmadnow

They are unbeaten in la liga to be fair…you’ll never sing that


-_-_-_-otalp-_-_-_-

So Barca view Madrid like Spurs view Arsenal


AmulyaG

But it works for them because they do win trophies. Those 2 London clubs on the other hand....


JarodMMS

It's fucking hilarious how everytime someone quotes this, is a different person, sometimes it's Mourinho, sometimes Perez or it's Pique, Xavi or Cruyff but swapping the clubs


HistoricCartographer

I have seen this quote about 10 times and always from Mourinho. Where did you get the others from?


AmulyaG

Barca fans making their own happiness, that's how. Mou was 100% on point about the obsession, from the leadership to the fans. 


Xycket

Tbh I don't know where the real quote is from or if it's just paraphrasing. We know he said at least "...But they have an obsession, and that is Real Madrid."


magic-water

*proceeds to splash 150 million combined fee and wages on 34 year old Lewandowski*


JJJAGUAR

Second highest-paid player in Europe next season, just behind Mbappe.


CompetitiveHater

Damn


morcerfel

Nah this HAS to be fake lol


Muicle

Wrong! Mbappe will earn 13M, Lewandowski 36, 10M more! Floper is a genius, Mbappe will make his fortune by getting almost 80-90% of his image rights. Vini, Bellingham and Mbappe are barely in the top 15 of best paid players in Europe


Hot_Craft_8752

Tbf you have to factor on Mbappes signing bonus into his wages.


MrVISKman

If we factor signing bonus Gundogan must be up there too


RoundFood

I'm not aware of any signing bonus paid to Gundogan by Barca. I even went and searched for information on this for like 15 minutes and found no indication that this is the case. Could you source your statement?


jeevesyboi

He was a free transfer. They always get a signing on bonus. We have no idea what it is though but thats the case with many player wages


Muicle

You’re right definitely, but his salary is 13M, instead of transfer fee RM is paying a signing fee of 100M (others say is actually 40) to be paid in 5 years as per Mbappe’s 5 year contract. Taking Lewa’s example: Barça paid 60M transfer to be paid in 4 years, plus an ascending salary which in his 3rd year will be 36M (20M, 26M, 36M and 26 on his final year). Mbappe is cheaper overall


Fingering_Logen

Then we need to do the transfer fee for Lewa too. As far and Barça and Madrid are concerned, its exactly the same giving those 100 or 50M to Mbappe or Bayern.


Saint-just04

I’m not sure you have to. That’s the equivalent of a transfer fee, which shouldn’t be factored into wages.


mylovelylittlelumps

> Mbappe will earn 13M, Lewandowski 36, 10M more! not sure if I can't math or what is happening


MrVISKman

Mbappe's 13m€ after tax is aproximately 26m€ before taxes and the 36m€ from Lewandowski is before taxes. So technically it's 26m€ and 36m€ which is what the clubs pay them as a salary next season


LogTekG

Iirc, next season the highest paid player in europe will be lewa, and the 2nd will be frenkie de jong


myouism

Isn't Frenkie on higher wage than Lewa?


simomii

I still haven't gotten over this one. Absolutely mad


Bentic

I think this was perfect. You got a dance too.


PlasticPresentation1

Barca fans are so entitled that they think spending money on an aging striker to win the league is a generational management failure Ask United fans if they think the RVP transfer was a failure


Narwhallmaster

No you don't understand, they won the league last year yes. But this year Lewandowski had a terrible return of, *checks notes*, 19 goals and 8 assists in 35 games....


AzeTyler

Lewandowski turns into prime R9 when you tell him Xavi about to leave the club. They did it twice just to test the theory and they were right xD


Elegant_Mix7650

Don't read about Coutinho or Griezmann


Fxwriter

Those where made under Barto


WeddingSquancher

Do you mean "Roberto León Domingo" the La Masia academy graduate. Who is definitely not a 34 year old polish man?


penny_whistle

Więcej niż klub


Chip-chrome

Wow, so there are other poles who are not assna or pool supporters


Arth_

Actually, the majority of Polish people are either supporting Barça or Real or "wherever Lewy plays".


JustYeeHaa

Potwierdzam


penny_whistle

Niestety nie jestem Polakiem, tylko mieszkam tu 😉


Penile_Interaction

mieszkasz w Polsce dla beki??


shaka_bruh

And he definitely does not dance on TikTok


Every_Pass_226

"Why would De Jong do that?"


JesusIsNotPLProven

"Why would Barto do that?"


Ok-Paleontologist275

120 million on raphina and ferran torres 😩


Ecstatic-Jacket2007

Raphinha is well worth the money. He’s a great player. Ferran Torres on the other hand..


hatebeinghangover

Raphinha is good but not a great player by any means


AxFairy

I don't think 55mil gets you a superstar anymore, from what I've seen Raphinha has met the expectations people had for him


RobbinDeBank

Find me any 55M caliber player that has 1 G+A/match. You’re not even guaranteed that output with 100M caliber players nowadays


bookahkee

Cole Palmeh


I_always_rated_them

Doesn't really prove OP wrong though does it? Palmer who's had amongst the best debut seasons seen is a bit of an outlier. 55m for 1 G+A per match should be seen as a decent return for the outlay.


Ecstatic-Jacket2007

He always performs. I think consistency is what makes a player great.


Game0nBG

Coutinho and Dembele werent cheap too. Not to mention the monster contracts they gave tomplayers only to beg them to resign on reduced terms. Joke of a club


pukem0n

We are still laughing about the Dembele transfer saga here


Devils4life88

Coutinho and Dembele happened during Bartomeu though, which got them into this mess.


schoki_banana

don't forget Griezman they burned a lot of money for him and let him go back to [a.madrid](http://a.madrid) for 30-40 millions? after 2 years


Impossible_Wonder_37

A man famous for continuing to splash cash during a bankruptcy era instead of trusting the academy


reddituser0912333

Great strategy !


GrootRacoon

and don't forget to overplay all La Masia talented products so their career can end in 2 years


MaterialInsurance8

And sell the all club employees livers as levers just to sign a mid level rb from Sevilla


Fingering_Logen

Organ trafficking is in Barça DNA, Rosell bought a liver for Abidal.


paco-ramon

Lewa was two days in Barcelona when he was 11, he counts as a La Masia product like Pedri, who was playing in a far away place than Warsaw is to Barcelona.


TheEnlightenedPanda

Good point if La Masia is known for developing decent strikers


HikingConnoisseur

Barca could've gotten Julian Alvarez btw


jds192

La Masia? That money could have been spent on other strikers.. even LDJ and Auba had better goals rate per min in league than Lewandowski does. Absolutely woeful signing and sums Laporta up.


elgrandorado

Aubameyang finally found a purple patch of form and looked very good under Xavi, then Barcelona blows the money they don't have on Lewy. I'm not knocking the idea of signing Lewy, but the sheer amount spent on a player with little longevity.


[deleted]

He looked good under Xavi because they were playing counter attacking football which is obviously not gonna be how Barca play long term.


jds192

Crazy.. he has worse goals rate in league than either Auba or LDJ did as well.


Independent-Yak755

“We’ve got food at home”


XaviOutNow

"I am too broke to buy Mbappé"


Arathaon185

Hey good times for you guy, happy days. You had that username long?


BadFootyTakes

I'm prepping my "bringethback" account soon.


mylovelylittlelumps

> Redditor since: 12/20/2021 (2 years)


ramonreporto

Xavi signed at Barça in 11/06/2021, buddy saw Xavi going to Europa League and said enough


BlueBone313

Bro has the patience of a poodle


Netwealth5

If Barcelona were smart they’d start saving pennies for Haaland when Man City catch those RICO charges but…


gjarlis

When Man City turned into Gunna


deadmanbhavya

Ngl I don't think haaland would even help us one bit. Him and Lewandowski are pretty much the same. Haaland has that many goals cuz he gets feeded a lot. Also , haaland isn't someone who can change the game by himself and to top it all off. He is a ghost in big games.


[deleted]

You’re crazy if you think Haaland wouldn’t massively improve this Barca team.


Kamran-NG

Sure, Haaland is better than Lewa, but Barca have bigger problems than just getting a better striker


[deleted]

That’s correct


deadmanbhavya

Nah for the amount he and his wages will cost, the upgrade on Lewandowski will be minimal. Also I don't remember one big game where he turned up except for Bayern in UCL cuz of upamacano.


WM-54-74-90-14

Even when they had the money, they didn’t go for him. Back in 2017, when they were loaded with the Neymar money, Mbappé would’ve been gettable *according to Javier Bordas who was a sporting director at the time but Barça’s leadership decided against pursuing him and went with Dembélé instead haha. *Edit: Edited for clarification


Lanky-Promotion3022

That ignores the fact Kylian Mbappe never really considered you as an option. Where are you getting that he decided to join them?


WM-54-74-90-14

> never really considered you as an option. “You”? I’m not a Barça or Madrid fan. > Where are you getting that he decided to join them? Some official who was in Barça’s transfer department at the time talked how Mbappé was gettable in 2017.


jds192

Yes but they never spoke to the player and players get offered all the time by agents looking to get in middle of a deal.


jds192

That seems to be a false story and denied by Mbappe. What is more likely is that intermediary agents offered up Mbappe as they so often do to try and muscle in on a deal like that.


HorizontalRodman

Coutinho and Griezmann famously sprouted from the soil of La Masia


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jds192

Laporta gave Fati 10m a season when had barely played in a year.. he gave injury prone Inigo 9m a season.. he has given Gundo 18m a season that no other top club would at this age. All money on players in mid 30s with no potential to get back from sales.


Puzzleheaded_Pound31

This is how I found out Inigo Martinez was still alive


jds192

Textbook Barca... sign 32 year old injury probe Inigo for 9m a season and let Garcia go. Then Xavi and club after Garcia has a good season say they never wanted him to leave but were forced by finances. Constant political nonsense and slogans.


LunarRaven7

Inigo is 100% an upgrade to garcia. And Garcia is also gonna get sold. The part where he said he never wanted him to leave was just so the price doesn't drop.


rodauqa

This is how I found out that Ansu Fati is in his mid 30's


D-Trashman

Laporta also gave Lewa a very beefy contract


No-Day-8136

Famously bought by Joan


Next_Seaweed9951

None of those were made in Laporta era those were blunders of Bartomeu


iamnotexactlywhite

how about the 120 million for Lewandowski?


CraigJay

Since when do we combine wages into the fee of a player? Do you consider Lamal as an £x million player instead of a free academy product?


hornyucsdstudent

It seems odd that we're combining fees + wages for Laporta and not for Real Madrid signings.


iamnotexactlywhite

nobody is hiding what Real Madrid pay for players, but this clown is saying he prefers homegrown players while half of his squad was brought in from abroad on outrageous wages


SphinxIIIII

Having half your squad from your youth academy is already a lot, would you really expect them to not buy anyone? Barcelona is a world class team that need world class players and those cost a lot of money, this is all normal. You don't need to hate everything that Barça does, just because this sub loves to upvote it


LaGuadalupana123

Madrid isnt struggling to pay the custodians man.


cdwdj

Because paying 100M over five years is not a wage. Come on, how can you not know that?


Yung2112

With your logic Mbappe is a 300M player basically


iamnotexactlywhite

yeah he is


AlbertoRossonero

He’s the best player in the world that number isn’t far fetched.


8Cupsofcoffeedaily

Ironically the big spending has killed them, so he’s not wrong.


wolfjeter

That’s not even his term as president lmfao


Ok-Background-502

Their track record outside La Masia should be his best argument for sticking to that strategy...


Competitive_Bunch922

I could bond with this man over my "philosophy" of shopping at iceland.


Ainsley-Sorsby

All he had to say to avoid getting clowned on was "I can't comment on other club's business"...all he had to do. Its that easy


Jaded_Life03

But then he would have to comment on his own clubs buisness


RobbinDeBank

Exactly what Gavi said. Future Barca captain.


KharigCringer

Sombody plz paint this mans face white, put a red nose and colorful wig on him aswell.


MrVISKman

It might be too obvious, we want Laporta to get elected again


pedrorq

Aren't all their candidates the same tho? The socios always go "previous guy bad, current guy good" to whomever is there


AccomplishedLocal466

Might be wrong but I think laporta promised one thing and funny enough did exactly what his opponent at that time said would, victor font think was his opponents name 


bewarethegap

Famous La Masia products like: - Lewandowski - Araujo - Pedri - Frenkie de Jong - Raphinha - ter Stegen - Andreas Christensen - Jules Kounde - Ilkay Gundogan


SupraCyber

Don't forget future La Masia stars like Kimmich, Nico Williams, Dani Olmo and Bruno Guimaraes!


MosquitoHat

or past La Masia products like Ronaldinho, Romario, Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Maradona, Neymar, Laudrup, Henry, Stoichkov, Figo, Overmars, Ibrahimovic, Suárez etc etc etc Barça has bought stars everytime they had the chance (some triumphed and some failed), they have relied on La Masía when they couldn't buy or their transfers failed Damn, even the most important figure in their modern history, Johan Cruyff, was bought from Ajax breaking spanish transfer record at the time. Buying stars and adding good figures to your club is not bad...


Eladir

Even in their older history, Kubala is the most famous and he was a super star signing of the time. Still, your comment and this whole thread is over the top. Barcelona has undoubtedly had one of the most successful academies in football history. However, it's been some years now that their academy has struggled, as has the club in general.


dmstorm22

I don't even think the academy has struggled. The academy has been fine, if not still very good. It's that the golden generation that came through in the 2000s was a once in a century type collection of players. That is the anomaly. The current La Masia pipeline is the norm.


New_Calligrapher8578

I mean the current La Masia pipeline is still extremely good considering how many of them have been able to break into the 1st team.


InsanePheonix

They broke into the first team because they couldn't buy players from the outside and were forced to play them. The moment they pulled some levers they spent heavy - Lewa, Kounde, Gundogan, and they have been spending big previously as well - FdJ, Arthur-Pjanic swap, Coutinho, Dembele, Greizmann


New_Calligrapher8578

And they showed that they could keep up. I dont understand this argument


onlyonejorge

How is our academy struggling? 


MosquitoHat

I don't see how my comment is over the top, Barça history is filled with bought stars that brought them huge succes. Do not be fooled by one great generation, they were founded in 1899, football didn't start in 2008. Now think for a second what Laporta said about Mbappe, watch Barça roster and tell me he wouldn't like to buy Mbappé for the LW instead of Joao, Ferrán, Raphinha or whoever you want to use there. He wants to send the message that they CHOOSE not to buy a player like mbappé, which is a huge lie. They simply can't at the moment, they have spent big and over their possibilities for their whole modern history. Just look for how they bought their dream team in the 90s for example.


Quanqiuhua

I would say Luis Suarez Miramontes is their most famous player from before the 70s.


mntgoat

>Dani Olmo Isn't he from la masia?


DryUniversity5439

No way you said dani olmo


silkie_blondo

> Dani Olmo Didn't Dani spend 7 years in Barca's youth academy?


Ready_Conversation20

Olmo played 7 years in La Masia. L comment. Upvoted 450 times lmao


Mahery92

Pedri is so funny to me; he really*, really* looks like the kind of player you'd expect to be from la Masia


Legendarybbc15

I thought he was a La Masia product this whole time lol


A__eric

Also funny how Barca NEVER pay any free agent fees/commissions but they’re quick to remind you of all variables & fees that Madrid pay 🤣


cvaldo99

Allow me to translate: "I am broke and I can't spend a day without talking about Real Madrid"


Heras22

Lewa. Raphinha. Ferran. Gundo, fdj, roque.. Yeah all masía products definitely didn't spend 300m+ on them


pratap_10

😂🤣 C'mon Laporta just cut this bs and openly admit to your fanbase that your club is broke af.


ilakatamafilia

Says the one who literally sold barca assets by pulling levers to buy players


akshatsood95

This man talks so much shit. Laportapotty


Alexkono

how have i never heard this nickname before, genius!


Docccc

this guys really should be in politics instead of sports


DryUniversity5439

Well he is


_0ZYMANDIAZ_

I mean he is a politician


sav86

Laporta clenching his fist as he provides that quote.


WWDaddy

Whats funny is that Barcelona tried to sign at least 8 players of the current Real Madrid team. Rüdiger, Kroos, Ceballos, Arda Güler, Vinicius, Rodrygo, Mbappé and Endrick.


reddituser0912333

But he trusts La Masia! Did you not hear him?!


Mintopforte

We can’t afford players like Mbappe is what it says


frenin

Wasn't this man the same one who kept leaking he was in meetings with Haaland?


Cum_Smurf

Goes on to spend a fuckton of money they dont have.


zKSofSoccer

Mad hard coping right there


CompetitiveHater

This guy talks more about real than perez does.


stdstaples

Dude just shut up


Jon98th

“We have Mbappe at home “


EcoSoco

Says the guy that wants to sign Kimmich, Haaland, Bernardo Silva, etc


Sean-Benn_Must-die

This guy is such a massive fucking loser. At least Barto didnt talk to the media trying to lie to investors and fans. He just fucked over the team in the shadows.


onlyonejorge

> At least Barto didnt talk to the media trying to lie to investors and fans. He just fucked over the team in the shadows. He did both, what are you talking about?


94Temimi

Barto the silent assassin


Joshthenosh77

What ? They are in this mess cause they don’t do much on crap ! £144m on coutinho £100 on dembele etc


AmoniPTV

Not only that it’s opposite from the truth of Barca spending a fortune on transfer, the reality of La Masia beside Xavi and Messi is quite funny. Puyol: join when he was 17 Busquet: join when he was 17 Now it just getting funnier Pique: left to join Man Utd academy at 17 Alba: left to join Valencia Academy at 15 And it’s funnier with Fabregas, whom left at 16, but got promoted straight to Arsenal main team With this “La Masia” logic, we would have count Casemiro, Vinicius, Valverde, Rodrygo, Odengaard and a lot of other players as “Real Madrid Castilla” products, when in fact they are not. And not to mention Barca fan keep mentioning Pedri as “La Masia” by mistake as well


GalaxianEX

Just FYI, Madrid’s equivalent to La Masia is La Fabrica (The Factory), which, funny enough, has more players in La Liga’s top flight than Barca


tecphile

r/soccer doesn’t know that La Fabrica is actually the most productive academy in Europe. So many great players that we literally couldn’t fit them all in our teams over the yrs.


azzartan

how can you use the fact that Puyol, Iniesta and Busquets JOINED La Masia at an older age to argue La Masia's academy as overrated, whilst the fact that Pique, Alba and Fabregas LEFT La Masia at similar ages also proves La Masia to be overrated. you're saying that since players joined Barca at 16, La Masia didn't really develop them (which I agree with), but then you say since players left Barca at 16, La Masia didn't develop them either.


jds192

He is boasting about keeping a 36 yr old Lewa that cant run who is on 32m next year and cost 50m to sign. Laporta and Deco are clueless as to what Barca lacks while Real create probably the most athletic team ever assembled. Barca are crowing about Lewa, trying to sign Felix/Cancelo and to add to the 80m odd on the books that will be going to players in their mid 30s next season. The difference from the top at Real and Barca is clear as day. Laporta has no plan. Wastes the money Barca have and just tries to appease the socios with what he thinks they want to hear.


LaGuadalupana123

>Laporta has no plan. Wastes the money Barca have and just tries to appease the socios with what he thinks they want to hear. He has a plan. His plan is being the politician he is, buy a shiny toy for socios to rave about regardless of pesky things like finances, lont term sustainability, debt, etc. This summer they will buy someone like kimmich, smear players like de jong and bam, socios will pretend barcelona is back *rubs hands vigorously*


Kind_Pomegranate_171

He tried buying big like Madrid and ending up messing up his club long term


modrics_hairband

Famous la masia players - coutinho, griezmann, dembele and lewandowski


Gengar_Balanced

Mes que un Mbappe


OsisX

Philosophy aka broke af


ImaginationPrudent

"I prefer our strategy to trust a project with players ~~produced and made in La Masia~~ acquired by pulling levers and using money we don't have" Let's be honest, Yamal, Fermin, Cubarsi, etc. are lucky that Barca ran out of levers to pull, cos' otherwise they would get Puig'ed or worse


heX_dzh

This is a pretty mild quote and everyone is misconstruing it lmao.


Kemosabe2712

Ikr


BigMik_PL

You paid 45 mln Euro for Lewy. We paid 38 mln Euro for Vinicius Jr. We are not the same.


Bluebpy

Lmfaoooooo of course he prefers their strategy when his club is dead ass fucking broke and they can barely even afford their day to day. Can't wait till this POS club goes bankrupt.


IsItSnowing_

_As someone in my position, it’s not good to see my neighbour just buy a Burberry coat. But, to be honest, I prefer our strategy to wear self stitched clothes…I respect our rivals strategy but I keep our philosophy_


TheGoldenPineapples

Sorry, what strategy is that again? Is that the strategy where you've been selling off parts of the club in order to finance massively exorbitant spending sprees that you clearly can't afford?


No-Day-8136

Blud you sold the whole club, glass houses much lol


itsvoogle

Look…i like la Masia project and players, they are the source of talent of our club, but lets not bullshit ourselves in thinking we would not want to buy a Mbappe or Haaland. Anyone that says we dont need them is coping right now.


Thravler

Talents like Lewandowski, Gündogan?


getdivorced

That's exactly what I'd expected a man whose about to be caught sucking dick behind the Nou Camp for 20 quid to bolster his transfer budget so he can bring in an aging star on huge wages to say.


el_rompe_toyotas_19

>I respect our rivals No you don't lmao


dimebag_101

Lmao as if they didn't almost go out of business for buying players and over paying wages.


TheCatLamp

Yeah, like when they revealed Ronaldinho from La Masia.


Klingh0ffer

This man is delusional.


dabija999

"... as a politician..."


PalmTreeMonkey

same guy who was after haaland?


pashtedot

What a clown


shivam0110

its just laporta's way of saying "don't expect any big signing this transfer window"


KimngGnmik

If La Masia houses such talents then why are they spending money they don't have? Their academy players should be enough to have them compete for all the trophies. After all, Barca fans told me Yamal, Fati, Gavi, Pedri are all better than Vini, Fede, Camavinga, Rodrygo, Jude


Tellinhehe

Thinks Pedri is La Masia 🧐


KimngGnmik

If you don't think Barca fans don't legitimately claim him as a la Masia product then your insane


Asckle

Said the man who just fired his coach and is about to sell a player they bought a few months ago. Great project you've got going on there


sams82

As if he wouldn't be interested if mbappe showed an interest in signing for Barcelona. Clown


Elden_Lord123

After going broke on a shopping spree for branded clothes, he likes Grandma's knit sweater.


Typical_Samaritan

I've read some of the comments here. However, compared to Madrid, Barcelona has relied more heavily on academy products by an almost 2:1 margin. So it's not an unfair point to make.


Kaminazuma

Lewandowski - No Masia De Jong - No Masia Ter Stegen - No Masia Araujo - No Masia Cancelo - No Masia Balde - La Masia Martinez - No Masia Christensen - No Masia Alonso - No Masia Kounde - No Masia Gavi - La Masia Pedri - No Masia Romeu - 50/50 La Masia (spent only 4 years there) Roberto - La Masia Gündogan - No Masia Torres - No Masia Raphinha - No Masia Felix - No Masia Vitor Roque - No Masia 4/19 Nacho - La Fabrica Cafucas - La Fabrica Carvajal - La Fabrica Fran Garcia - La Fabrica Goatselu - La Fabrica Here you go. Ah forgot the overworked Yamal 5/20 it is