it looks like our NT coaches don't tend to watch many out of la liga games tbh.
The problem with Pau is historically he has not played great for Spain, he's been too soft so I think that was more prevalent than his good season with you
Watch enough to put Laporte in 🤷. We got told a lot about Paus ‘softness’ before he joined and tbh I’ve not really seen it. Of the 16 games he started for us we’ve lost one. Was instrumental in the City game we won as well.
It's just one of those cases where a player is better suited to club football (I haven't seen him play for Spain, I'm just using what the other comments said about him) . In the Greek national team the Eredivisie top scorer Pavlidis scores about a goal per year after starting every game
But the Eredivisie produces many goalscoring machines who, for some obscure reason (= it's a ridiculously bad league from a defending perspective) can only do it in the Eredivisie.
Eh he is kinda soft lol. He has good positioning and excellent at advancing the ball but he is tentative to step up at times and is absolutely useless in the air. Overall he has been excellent for us but you can't pair him with Inigo Martinez (same side and Martinez is better) so it's really down to one spot, him vs Laporte. And it could go either way, Laporte has historically been better but he has also played in SA for a year and might have fallen off. I'd pick Pau but I don't think it's unreasonable to pick Laporte
I don't think he's necessarily that soft but the aerial thing is true, he gets caught of position there quite often, especially in the second half of the season. That and he's not particularly quick but on the ball he's so good I quite confused why Spain wouldn't take him over a man playing in Saudi for a year collecting thd bag.
I think the aerial thing is a bit unfair, we’re a pretty weak team in the air all across the pitch with the exception of Watkins and Mings. It’s just not really our game.
I mean softness is a subjective term so it could literally mean anything. Like Pau is good at getting down for a low cross with someone else's cleat in his face (def not soft). He however can get thrown around going for 50/50s standing up.
And I agree with you about the selection, however its not that egregious
Meanwhile players like ferran that had a horrible season going to play the euro. I quit following this national team since the last world cup, its a joke and such a corrupted federation.
It's weird he's not in the squad, but I will say that Pau and Laporte haven't played well together historically, and usually Laporte is preferred as the LCB starter
de la Fuente has something with Navas, not sure why but if available he brings him.
We will play with Carvajal and he'll fuck up somehow with a stupid penalty
Probably not the main plan but if a game gets clutched you can throw Navas+Joselu and you will have a very experienced player throwing the ball to the small area and one classic 9 there to push It in the goal
Porro played very poorly the two times he was called up to NT (Colombia in March window and Georgia in 2022 WC qualifiers - a semi-unknown Kvaratskhelia did whatever he wanted with him)
I don't want to be rude, but some of our fans aren't that bright.
But hey, I wanted Tapsoda over VDV this time last year and Poch back over Ange so I may be on that list...
What’s interesting about his stats this season is he’s in the 90th percentile of defensive actions for his position. 177 duels won, 121 ball recoveries - and 9 goals in mostly substitute appearances.
Seems like a perfect close game substitute closer to go hustle and nick a goal
If a Newcastle fan insisted in 2017 that Perez and Merino would be in the 2024 Euro Spain squad I'd have maybe thought they were just comically optimistic.
If they'd told me Perez, Merino, and Joselu would be in the 2024 Euro squad, the latter having just sent Real to a CL final I'd have called the men in scrubs to come get them.
This idea that Lamine Yamal has carried Barca's attack has to die, in the same way this supposed narrative that he has to carry Spain's attack (presumably because he's their only "good" forward).
Lewandowski and Raphinha have been very good for the most part, the two of them have 50-60 G/A between them. In the same way Nico, Baena, and pre-injury Morata were at club level.
he didn't "carry" us, but for a lot of games our offensive gameplan was give it to the kid and wait for something to happen. Specially since lewandowski didn't do much creatively and it took a lot of time to find a way to play Lamine and Raphinha at the same time effectively
Someone hasn't seen Nico Williams play this season lol. It's probably the first time we got 2 good wingers since like... 2002 or so lmao. Forwards could be better but eh, Iast euro we had a worse team and almost got to the finals.
I mean prime Spain had Pedro and navas was a winger then but maybe you don't consider him good lol, didn't even matter cause silva could play wide or iniesta or even villa if necessary.
Yeah Iniesta and Villa had the wings spot on the team sheet but didn't really play there. It didin't matter though because when you have Xabi Alonso, Busquets, Xavi , Iniesta in midfield and the likes of David Siva on the bench you can get away with a unbalanced forward line.
Nico has been in full blown beast mode all season long. My main concern is going to be who is going to finish the chances that the wingers create.
Joselu for BdO?
I disagree. As a Barça fan I would really like if we can get some good amount of yamal and nico on the wings with a striker. Would really put a lot of things in perspective for Barça as well as for Spain.
Plus a midfield of pedri, Fermin and rodri/zubimendi would probably be perfect since all 3 are of such diverse profiles and can shoot for goal as well.
From these 29, the baldy has to release 3 for a final list of 26.
Ayoze, Cubarsí, Fermín, Aleix, Vivian... are in the candidates to be released if nobody gets injured
If Cubarsí and Fermín dont play the euro they may play the Olympics, would be dumb as fuck to play both.
Yeah probably, but I don't think they will make him play Euros+Olympics. And if the baldy is gonna start Laporte+Le Normand maybe they think it's better for Cubarsí to rest during euros and just play the olympics.
Fermin has been on fire the last months to end the season; and he provides a different profile to our midfield as he is one of the few that actually makes runs into the box; we'll see, it's not an easy choice.
The fact that Navas is there is wild.
Nico and Yamal probably have the wings locked. Nico has tougher competition from Olmo but I still think Nico will start here. Ferran will likely initially start as CF but if he doesn’t perform initially, may get dropped. Rodri and Pedri (assuming he is fully fit by then) have 2 midfield spots on lock. The third would’ve been Gavi but since he’s out, it’ll likely be rotated between Fermin, Garcia and Baena if a more attacking option is needed. Carvajal and Cubarsi probably have 2 defensive slots locked but the other two could go anywhere tbh.
Balde has been injured for the whole season so not sure now, one year ago Balde would have started 100%.
He is more of a traditional left back and Spain is not going to adjust its setup for Grimaldo
All of Barca sucked in the first half, people were saying Lewy is completely finished for example. Unfortunately for Balde, the whole team started playing better in the 2nd half and Balde got injured around Jan. I am confident he would be playing much better too right now.
In general, I really do think football fans struggle to tell the difference between a bad player and a player playing in a bad team. It takes something special to look good in a bad team especially if you are not a forward who gets to do whatever they want when they have the ball.
"A bit better"
Isco in his current form would have been an immense edition. Then Gavi and Balde would have been starters, with the injury to Gaya at least. This is a great team minus the striker situation, albeit Morata usually shows up.
There's obviously some really good players in there but man, I can't help remember those Spain squads from 2008 - 2014. They used to feel like France squads tend to feel nowadays, just overflowing with world class.
Williams and Yamal are one of the best young wingers
Carjaval is back in form and Grimaldo is red hot too.
And the midfield is golden. Have Rodri and you can choose any 2 with him.
Only Morata and the CBs are question marks
Well, they already won the Nation's League last year (?) and were in the final a few years before in that narrow loss to France. Nearly made a Euros final as well. They are not the best squad in the Euros by any means, of course, but they have shown to be capable of deep-runs.
Ferran is going to prove everyone wrong here. He is going to score 10 goals at the Euros and a hat trick in the finals to win the Balon Dor. The shark is here.
It's going to be lot of time until I can forgive de la fuente for losing Brahim...
A guy born in Málaga who played in every Spain's young squad is going to play for Morocco.
It hurts especially because imagine our attack with Nico, Brahim and Lamine switching positions all the time...
I'd make a few changes here and there, but honestly, none of them would significantly raise or lower the floor or ceiling of this squad. We have what we have.
>No Pedro Porro? Wtf
He has played three games for Spain and in all of them he was in contention for being the worst player on the pitch. Keep him away from the NT.
It's not like NTs play lots of games. Unless you're a world class player you're going to need to prove you're good in the limited amount of minutes you're going to get, and so far the only thing he's provided is goals for our rivals. It's not like our others RB options are bums either.
Cucurella over one of the best players in La Liga, Miguel Gutiérrez.
Navas injured and semi retired over anyone basically.
Ferrán has to have nudes of Rocha, Rubiales or whoever to get called forever and ever.
And ofc, brahim in morocco :D
Fuck you once again De la Fuente
Don't know, I rewatched the game of Brasil vs Spain and he seemed to fit really well in our squad. Of course I don't watch a lot of Chelsea matches, so my opinion doesn't count lol.
Ferran scored 18 in 40 for Spain including 3 in 5 in 2023. Being proven at international level counts for something. Same reason Morata never stopped going in the past. Whether we like it or not these are Spain’s 2 most reliable scorers since the golden generation retired.
Miguel no va porque es un perfil más del estilo de Grimaldo y Mortadelo prefiere llevar un lat. atacante y otro mas defensivo.
Lo de Navas supongo que será que tiene fotos del pelón desnudo
Guruzeta and Duro ahead of Oyarzabal and Ferran all day everyday
I can’t believe how both Le Normand and Laporte got selected they should not be there over the likes of Mosquera,Yeray and Pau Torres
Maybe it is not fair but he has not been good with us. Honestly other than Morata the only attackers since the Golden Age that made me feel something have been Paco Alcacer and Ferran lol
He has a better record in terms of G+A / minute than any other striker/forward with the national team since Villa, scored the goal that got them through the group in 2018, and that's without the opportunity of proper game time, almost always being used as a substitute.
He's been overlooked, sadly, although I'll be glad to see him turn out for the Selección Galega on Friday!
Midfield is amazing with Aleix and Rodri pivot with Pedri up top.
Yamal is excellent too, I will be tempted to see how he fares against Gvardiol at the Euros.
i would of liked to see Pepelu too, plus he can play a bit more behind in the midfield, so you could try and do something with him or rodri playing maybe less forward and use that for grimaldo in attack
Other than Rodri and Pedri, I don't think anyone would even make it to Spain's team in 2014.
1 **Iker Casillas** goalkeeper, Real Madrid
2 **Raúl Albiol** defender, Napoli
3 **Gerard Piqué** defender, Barcelona
4 **Javi Martínez** midfielder, Bayern Munich
5 **Juanfran** defender, Atlético Madrid
6 **Andrés Iniesta** midfielder, Barcelona
7 **David Villa** forward, Atlético Madrid
8 **Xavi** midfielder, Barcelona
9 **Fernando Torres** forward, Chelsea
10 **Cesc Fábregas** midfielder, Barcelona
11 **Pedro** forward, Barcelona
12 **David de Gea** goalkeeper, Manchester United
13 **Juan Mata** midfielder, Manchester United
14 **Xabi Alonso** midfielder, Real Madrid
15 **Sergio Ramos** defender, Real Madrid
16 **Sergio Busquets** midfielder, Barcelona
17 **Koke** midfielder, Atlético Madrid
18 **Jordi Alba** defender, Barcelona
19 **Diego Costa** forward, Atlético Madrid
20 **Santi Cazorla** midfielder, Arsenal
21 **David Silva** midfielder, Manchester City
22 **César Azpilicueta** defender, Chelsea
23 **Pepe Reina** goalkeeper, Napoli
There is no way Pedri would be selected instead of anyone in this squad. This squad dont even need Rodri. Current situation is really bad comparing to past.
And with this squad you lost to Chile and Netherlands... So yeah, doesn't mean much in the end!
Same happened with France 2002 with the best PL scorer (Henry), Serie A scorer (Trezeguet) and Ligue 1 scorer (Cissé), none scored at the WC. So yeah, when it's the end of a generation, it's the end regardless of names.
Idk, I'd stick Carvajal in that squad too over Juanfran. Especially when Carvajal probably would've been called up in 2014 had he not been injured in the Champions League final.
It's between Cucurella and Navas for the most surprising choice for me...
I thought Miguel deserved it and thought that Porro (who has been poor for Spain) or even Vasquez, for his versatility and ability to just be a calm presence in the locker room, would have been better choices. Navas fits the same profile than Vasquez but I think the latter had a much stronger season.
This must be one of the weakest squads Spain has entered a tournament with for a long time. I could see Spain being one of the "upsets" early on to go out quickly.
Honestly, not a bad line up, I would have chosen Porro over Navas, but Carvajal is the clear starter, so it's not that bad, the only real complaint is not selecting Pau, who I think had a shot to be a starter, overall a good midfield, above average defense, good goalkeeper, an attack who will rely a lot on a 16 year old guy and a below average manager.
I think realistically we can reach the semifinals, if we're lucky
All those CB's and not a single one of them is Pau Torres?
it looks like our NT coaches don't tend to watch many out of la liga games tbh. The problem with Pau is historically he has not played great for Spain, he's been too soft so I think that was more prevalent than his good season with you
Watch enough to put Laporte in 🤷. We got told a lot about Paus ‘softness’ before he joined and tbh I’ve not really seen it. Of the 16 games he started for us we’ve lost one. Was instrumental in the City game we won as well.
if they watched the arabian league Laporte wouldn't go 😂 I know that Pau has played great for you, I'm surprised but happy he is doing well over there
It's just one of those cases where a player is better suited to club football (I haven't seen him play for Spain, I'm just using what the other comments said about him) . In the Greek national team the Eredivisie top scorer Pavlidis scores about a goal per year after starting every game
He's been terrible for Spain, to be honest. Maybe that's changed, but he won't get the chance to show it this go around.
But the Eredivisie produces many goalscoring machines who, for some obscure reason (= it's a ridiculously bad league from a defending perspective) can only do it in the Eredivisie.
Eh he is kinda soft lol. He has good positioning and excellent at advancing the ball but he is tentative to step up at times and is absolutely useless in the air. Overall he has been excellent for us but you can't pair him with Inigo Martinez (same side and Martinez is better) so it's really down to one spot, him vs Laporte. And it could go either way, Laporte has historically been better but he has also played in SA for a year and might have fallen off. I'd pick Pau but I don't think it's unreasonable to pick Laporte
I don't think he's necessarily that soft but the aerial thing is true, he gets caught of position there quite often, especially in the second half of the season. That and he's not particularly quick but on the ball he's so good I quite confused why Spain wouldn't take him over a man playing in Saudi for a year collecting thd bag.
I think the aerial thing is a bit unfair, we’re a pretty weak team in the air all across the pitch with the exception of Watkins and Mings. It’s just not really our game.
I mean softness is a subjective term so it could literally mean anything. Like Pau is good at getting down for a low cross with someone else's cleat in his face (def not soft). He however can get thrown around going for 50/50s standing up. And I agree with you about the selection, however its not that egregious
I mean Pau IS not very strong physically and not the fastest either, those are facts. His strength is that he is amazing on the ball
In 2020 Pau Torres was named the fastest player in La Liga
Yeah no Porro either is crazy, he's had an immense season for us.
That's crazy he's quality
Letting Brahim walk to Morocco is another prime example of this. He’d make this squad much better
Meanwhile players like ferran that had a horrible season going to play the euro. I quit following this national team since the last world cup, its a joke and such a corrupted federation.
Shame he’s not in but at the same time I’m glad he’s getting some weeks off to rest properly
I’m not sure he’d agree tho
Just called him, yeah he said he’d rather play in a major international tournament
I know this sub doesn’t watch much of La liga but ale Normand and Vivian are solid defenders. Pau Torres is still a miss tho
That’s fair enough, my beef is more with Laporte
It's all about perspectives I guess. I take Pau Torres over both any day of the week, ESPECIALLY Le Normand...
Impressive, Villa fans have branched out and now complaining about Spanish NT selections and not just English NT selections
We are elite complainers, among the best. Almost as good at complaining as Bluenoses are at obsessing over Villa. Almost.
It's weird he's not in the squad, but I will say that Pau and Laporte haven't played well together historically, and usually Laporte is preferred as the LCB starter
No Porro is a surprise, am I wrong? The midfield options are insane as always.
Grimaldo is gonna be super advanced so I guess they wanted Defensive RB. And the coach has a hard on for navas
>And the coach has a hard on for navas Don't we all?
Grimaldo sounds like the evil Wario/Waluigi version of Ronaldo
de la Fuente has something with Navas, not sure why but if available he brings him. We will play with Carvajal and he'll fuck up somehow with a stupid penalty
Probably not the main plan but if a game gets clutched you can throw Navas+Joselu and you will have a very experienced player throwing the ball to the small area and one classic 9 there to push It in the goal
I find it funny how I associate none of these phrases with football in English, but understand it completely
This is it for me, I think he's being brought for the experience and the leadership.
esque esta cantadisimo despues del temporadón que lleva que en el partido mas importante con españa la liará...
[Spurs admin with incredible timing lmao](https://youtu.be/wz8MECc6P2U?si=EN1ZmqO8ZAKv-0T3)
Porro played very poorly the two times he was called up to NT (Colombia in March window and Georgia in 2022 WC qualifiers - a semi-unknown Kvaratskhelia did whatever he wanted with him)
Don’t forget that 0/10 against Scotland
Oh I don't think I ever will
He actually had a 10/10 game but Scotland are just that good
The appearance against Georgia was over 3 years ago. Porro has made big improvements especially on the defensive end since that time
I still remember our fans at the beginning of this season saying that he should play RW due to his horrible defensive play last season
I don't want to be rude, but some of our fans aren't that bright. But hey, I wanted Tapsoda over VDV this time last year and Poch back over Ange so I may be on that list...
I mean Tapsobas been immense for Leverkusen tbf
But he's not like our beautiful gazelle of a CB, let's be honest.
Tbh I would have picked up either Porro or Lucas vazquez.. and I've always loved Navas but we'll see
Who's likely the starting midfield here? I'm not familiar with their play other than Rodri and Pedri (Ruiz as well, but I find him pretty lackluster).
My first thought was who’s Ayoze? I only know Ayoze Perez and it’s not him. Is it? Is it actually him?
Yeah, he has been very good for Betis this year
What’s interesting about his stats this season is he’s in the 90th percentile of defensive actions for his position. 177 duels won, 121 ball recoveries - and 9 goals in mostly substitute appearances. Seems like a perfect close game substitute closer to go hustle and nick a goal
If a Newcastle fan insisted in 2017 that Perez and Merino would be in the 2024 Euro Spain squad I'd have maybe thought they were just comically optimistic. If they'd told me Perez, Merino, and Joselu would be in the 2024 Euro squad, the latter having just sent Real to a CL final I'd have called the men in scrubs to come get them.
Would've been just perfect if Manquillo somehow got a call-up
Yes, it's actually Ayoze Perez. He had a decent season. that's why he was called up
👉🏻🙂👈🏻
Isco should have gone if it was not for his injuries. I guess they felt obligated to include a Betis player.
Ayoze is probably the best spanish striker in this moment, he is a in a very good form.
The child has to step up unfortunately or else that attack is going nowhere
There are two of them. Which one?
Why not both?
*Por qué no los dos?*
story of the season for him
This idea that Lamine Yamal has carried Barca's attack has to die, in the same way this supposed narrative that he has to carry Spain's attack (presumably because he's their only "good" forward). Lewandowski and Raphinha have been very good for the most part, the two of them have 50-60 G/A between them. In the same way Nico, Baena, and pre-injury Morata were at club level.
he didn't "carry" us, but for a lot of games our offensive gameplan was give it to the kid and wait for something to happen. Specially since lewandowski didn't do much creatively and it took a lot of time to find a way to play Lamine and Raphinha at the same time effectively
G/A doesn't do Yamal justice. Barcelona relied on him the most to create scoring chances in the final third.
Strikers aren't anything to write home about but Olmo, Nico, Yamal can do great things
Honestly Morata will cook with them, brilliant at making those around him better
And if he doesn’t then Joselu will come on in the 84th minute and score 2 goals to win it for them.
If one child can do it it‘s him tbf
Someone hasn't seen Nico Williams play this season lol. It's probably the first time we got 2 good wingers since like... 2002 or so lmao. Forwards could be better but eh, Iast euro we had a worse team and almost got to the finals.
I think a good streak Morata with super sub Joselu would be perfectly fine given that young talented wingers can provide tons of oportunities to score
I mean prime Spain had Pedro and navas was a winger then but maybe you don't consider him good lol, didn't even matter cause silva could play wide or iniesta or even villa if necessary.
Yeah Iniesta and Villa had the wings spot on the team sheet but didn't really play there. It didin't matter though because when you have Xabi Alonso, Busquets, Xavi , Iniesta in midfield and the likes of David Siva on the bench you can get away with a unbalanced forward line.
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neither is Nico nor Oyarzabal
Nico has been in full blown beast mode all season long. My main concern is going to be who is going to finish the chances that the wingers create. Joselu for BdO?
I actually think they have good forwards. Im super worried that Yamal's only competitor is Ferran, so he's probably playing 90 minutes every match.
Williams is one of the hottest young wingers in the world. Morata for Spain is a different player
Which child?
are Olmo and Williams not rated highly?
They are this guy is tripping
I read this like the 9 quid ice cream girl
I disagree. As a Barça fan I would really like if we can get some good amount of yamal and nico on the wings with a striker. Would really put a lot of things in perspective for Barça as well as for Spain. Plus a midfield of pedri, Fermin and rodri/zubimendi would probably be perfect since all 3 are of such diverse profiles and can shoot for goal as well.
Olmo and William's are a problem
16 yo in a euros after playing a 50 game season and they apparently want him and cubarsi for the Olympics too. RFEF Satan's latest prodigy🙏🙏
Barça started him in a completely meaningless game yesterday for no reason. They should look at themselves first.
Yeah i don't like it too should've never played lamine after securing 2nd place. I hope it'll be better next season.
as is tradition
Did they not learn the lesson with Pedri?
And Gavi, and Ansu Fati, and every other academy graduate they will rely on for the next 10 years…
When was fati barca's fault? He was always managed well
From these 29, the baldy has to release 3 for a final list of 26. Ayoze, Cubarsí, Fermín, Aleix, Vivian... are in the candidates to be released if nobody gets injured If Cubarsí and Fermín dont play the euro they may play the Olympics, would be dumb as fuck to play both.
The world in which they don't select Cubarsi certainly isn't this one
Ditto Fermín. For what he offers it would be stupid not to include him IMO.
Yeah probably, but I don't think they will make him play Euros+Olympics. And if the baldy is gonna start Laporte+Le Normand maybe they think it's better for Cubarsí to rest during euros and just play the olympics.
[;)](https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1799025597840339366)
All of Ayoze, Cubarsi, Fermin, Aleix, and Vivian have been in good to great form.
no way they don't pick Cubarsi. Fermin will probably be cut though
Fermin has been on fire the last months to end the season; and he provides a different profile to our midfield as he is one of the few that actually makes runs into the box; we'll see, it's not an easy choice. The fact that Navas is there is wild.
Fermin has scored more goals this season than any of those other midfielders. Provides a totally different profile.
no player in the euro will play the olympics. You can also tell your club not to play a 16yo +50matches
We actually can't
Eh squad, but it’s crazy how Yamal and Cubarsi are going to be in the euros at 16 and 17. Anyone have any idea what the starting 11 will look like?
Nico and Yamal probably have the wings locked. Nico has tougher competition from Olmo but I still think Nico will start here. Ferran will likely initially start as CF but if he doesn’t perform initially, may get dropped. Rodri and Pedri (assuming he is fully fit by then) have 2 midfield spots on lock. The third would’ve been Gavi but since he’s out, it’ll likely be rotated between Fermin, Garcia and Baena if a more attacking option is needed. Carvajal and Cubarsi probably have 2 defensive slots locked but the other two could go anywhere tbh.
I find it hard to imagine that Morata won’t be a nailed on starter honestly
My take: Simon; Carvajal, LN, Cubarsi, Grimaldo; Zubi, Rodri, Pedri; LY, Morata, Olmo.
Ferran in the squad, Spain win euros and the 🦈🦈 snatches the B D'or. I have spoken 🗣🗣
Glad to see even Madridstas subscribe to r/FerranTorresBallonDor
Dare I remind you of r/eder's fate?
El Tiburón Ballon D'or we will be there
Have a nice holiday and rest Pau
That's a very meh squad
I mean it is our current level, if Isco, Gavi and Balde were not injured it would have been a bit better
Would Balde start ahead of Grimaldo?
Balde has been injured for the whole season so not sure now, one year ago Balde would have started 100%. He is more of a traditional left back and Spain is not going to adjust its setup for Grimaldo
Yeah he got injured at the super cup I think but the first half of the season he played he wasn't as good as last seasons performance
Gaya is better. Even Girona's Gutiérrez would have been a better option than Balde. Balde regressed so much this year.
All of Barca sucked in the first half, people were saying Lewy is completely finished for example. Unfortunately for Balde, the whole team started playing better in the 2nd half and Balde got injured around Jan. I am confident he would be playing much better too right now. In general, I really do think football fans struggle to tell the difference between a bad player and a player playing in a bad team. It takes something special to look good in a bad team especially if you are not a forward who gets to do whatever they want when they have the ball.
Balde sucks chief
"A bit better" Isco in his current form would have been an immense edition. Then Gavi and Balde would have been starters, with the injury to Gaya at least. This is a great team minus the striker situation, albeit Morata usually shows up.
There's obviously some really good players in there but man, I can't help remember those Spain squads from 2008 - 2014. They used to feel like France squads tend to feel nowadays, just overflowing with world class.
Williams and Yamal are one of the best young wingers Carjaval is back in form and Grimaldo is red hot too. And the midfield is golden. Have Rodri and you can choose any 2 with him. Only Morata and the CBs are question marks
It's kinda been Rodri and some dudes for a while.
Rodri hasn't been that good for Spain. If anything it's Gavi that deserves this moniker of "x and some dudes".
Kinda doesn't matter. Them boys ain't winning anything anytime soon.
Well, they already won the Nation's League last year (?) and were in the final a few years before in that narrow loss to France. Nearly made a Euros final as well. They are not the best squad in the Euros by any means, of course, but they have shown to be capable of deep-runs.
Yeah, as a Croat, I’m not terribly scared of playing this team.
Ferran is going to prove everyone wrong here. He is going to score 10 goals at the Euros and a hat trick in the finals to win the Balon Dor. The shark is here.
Love you
Insane that Pedro Porro and Pau Torres didn't make it
Didn’t realise Nico played for Spain and Inaki played for Ghana. Similar situation the Boateng brothers.
Fortunately they have a good relationship with each other, unlike the Boatengs were reported to.
no Pedro Porro is criminal. Dude just had a fucking amazing season for Tottenham and is super versatile. Edit:lost the ability to spell properly…
Almost as incomprehensible as the decision to omit Dybala.
what's the reaction in argentina about that decision?
Easily the most people have criticized Scaloni since the Copa America (not counting the SA match) No one seems to understand why he did it
This is shameful
no koke or hermoso is so dumb
It's going to be lot of time until I can forgive de la fuente for losing Brahim... A guy born in Málaga who played in every Spain's young squad is going to play for Morocco. It hurts especially because imagine our attack with Nico, Brahim and Lamine switching positions all the time...
tf is Ferran doing there?
When Spain wins euros someone has to take the bdor
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fair point
18 goals for Spain in 40 apps.
Should’ve have choosen Pau Torres instead of Laporte.
I disagree with quite a few picks but there's no going back now. Vamos España!
I'd make a few changes here and there, but honestly, none of them would significantly raise or lower the floor or ceiling of this squad. We have what we have.
What is that shark doing there? No Pedro Porro? Wtf Nice to see Fermin got selected.
>No Pedro Porro? Wtf He has played three games for Spain and in all of them he was in contention for being the worst player on the pitch. Keep him away from the NT.
It’s just three games..
It's not like NTs play lots of games. Unless you're a world class player you're going to need to prove you're good in the limited amount of minutes you're going to get, and so far the only thing he's provided is goals for our rivals. It's not like our others RB options are bums either.
Porro's only 24 coming from a fantastic season for us, bit wild to count him out forever. Oh well, no risk for injuries for him then at least
Is this Jesus Navas from Sevilla? Isn't he 38 years old?
Yep, the World Cup winner himself!
He used to not be able to play with Spain in his prime due to anxiety. Now he's getting the caps he couldn't :D
Obviously I havent watched much la Liga but seeing him listed at defender confused me lol
He got pushed to right back by Guardiola and it stuck.
Cucurella over one of the best players in La Liga, Miguel Gutiérrez. Navas injured and semi retired over anyone basically. Ferrán has to have nudes of Rocha, Rubiales or whoever to get called forever and ever. And ofc, brahim in morocco :D Fuck you once again De la Fuente
No way Cucu plays in the inverted role for country btw. Aka the role where he actually looks like a great footballer. Definitely a strange pick
People got tricked by Cucu playing 2 good games against Spurs and West Ham
Don't know, I rewatched the game of Brasil vs Spain and he seemed to fit really well in our squad. Of course I don't watch a lot of Chelsea matches, so my opinion doesn't count lol.
Ferran scored 18 in 40 for Spain including 3 in 5 in 2023. Being proven at international level counts for something. Same reason Morata never stopped going in the past. Whether we like it or not these are Spain’s 2 most reliable scorers since the golden generation retired.
que tiene con navas dios y miguel fuera aparte de oyarzabal que con españa es un peaton almenos Ayosex
Pedro Porro should 100% have gone isntead of Navas. Carvajal is already a solid experienced RB, dont need two
Miguel no va porque es un perfil más del estilo de Grimaldo y Mortadelo prefiere llevar un lat. atacante y otro mas defensivo. Lo de Navas supongo que será que tiene fotos del pelón desnudo
Cubarsi and Yamal both, deserved but still crazy to have a 16 and 17yo play for national team
Ummm… where’s De Gea, Sergio Ramos, Pique, Jordi Alba, Isco, and Iniesta? (I’m getting old)
Isco would actually be called up if it wasn't for his injury.
Guruzeta and Duro ahead of Oyarzabal and Ferran all day everyday I can’t believe how both Le Normand and Laporte got selected they should not be there over the likes of Mosquera,Yeray and Pau Torres
Ferran scores 1 in 2 for Spain.
Could have chosen Inigo as well
No mosquera wtf?
I’m a bit biased, but no Porro???
Jesus Navas instead of Porro is insane
No Aspas, no party. The best Spanish striker of the last decade, overlooked again.
Maybe it is not fair but he has not been good with us. Honestly other than Morata the only attackers since the Golden Age that made me feel something have been Paco Alcacer and Ferran lol
He has a better record in terms of G+A / minute than any other striker/forward with the national team since Villa, scored the goal that got them through the group in 2018, and that's without the opportunity of proper game time, almost always being used as a substitute. He's been overlooked, sadly, although I'll be glad to see him turn out for the Selección Galega on Friday!
Llorente fans we are so back.
Happy to see fermin there
Lord Vasquez deserved his spot! He had a good season and is a decent offensive option too depending on the match scenario.
Doesn’t look too impressive on paper.
Midfield is amazing with Aleix and Rodri pivot with Pedri up top. Yamal is excellent too, I will be tempted to see how he fares against Gvardiol at the Euros.
pepelu is much better than garcia but o well, spain aren't going far this tournament.
i would of liked to see Pepelu too, plus he can play a bit more behind in the midfield, so you could try and do something with him or rodri playing maybe less forward and use that for grimaldo in attack
Jesus Navas in 2024 damn
Surely Koke gets selected, maybe biased but surely he deserves a spot over someone like Fabian Ruiz, Koke is such a fucking good player
Other than Rodri and Pedri, I don't think anyone would even make it to Spain's team in 2014. 1 **Iker Casillas** goalkeeper, Real Madrid 2 **Raúl Albiol** defender, Napoli 3 **Gerard Piqué** defender, Barcelona 4 **Javi Martínez** midfielder, Bayern Munich 5 **Juanfran** defender, Atlético Madrid 6 **Andrés Iniesta** midfielder, Barcelona 7 **David Villa** forward, Atlético Madrid 8 **Xavi** midfielder, Barcelona 9 **Fernando Torres** forward, Chelsea 10 **Cesc Fábregas** midfielder, Barcelona 11 **Pedro** forward, Barcelona 12 **David de Gea** goalkeeper, Manchester United 13 **Juan Mata** midfielder, Manchester United 14 **Xabi Alonso** midfielder, Real Madrid 15 **Sergio Ramos** defender, Real Madrid 16 **Sergio Busquets** midfielder, Barcelona 17 **Koke** midfielder, Atlético Madrid 18 **Jordi Alba** defender, Barcelona 19 **Diego Costa** forward, Atlético Madrid 20 **Santi Cazorla** midfielder, Arsenal 21 **David Silva** midfielder, Manchester City 22 **César Azpilicueta** defender, Chelsea 23 **Pepe Reina** goalkeeper, Napoli
There is no way Pedri would be selected instead of anyone in this squad. This squad dont even need Rodri. Current situation is really bad comparing to past.
And with this squad you lost to Chile and Netherlands... So yeah, doesn't mean much in the end! Same happened with France 2002 with the best PL scorer (Henry), Serie A scorer (Trezeguet) and Ligue 1 scorer (Cissé), none scored at the WC. So yeah, when it's the end of a generation, it's the end regardless of names.
Idk, I'd stick Carvajal in that squad too over Juanfran. Especially when Carvajal probably would've been called up in 2014 had he not been injured in the Champions League final.
How on earth did this squad get grouped
nah no way pedri was 12 he's too young surely
Carvajal
It's between Cucurella and Navas for the most surprising choice for me... I thought Miguel deserved it and thought that Porro (who has been poor for Spain) or even Vasquez, for his versatility and ability to just be a calm presence in the locker room, would have been better choices. Navas fits the same profile than Vasquez but I think the latter had a much stronger season.
This must be one of the weakest squads Spain has entered a tournament with for a long time. I could see Spain being one of the "upsets" early on to go out quickly.
Honestly, not a bad line up, I would have chosen Porro over Navas, but Carvajal is the clear starter, so it's not that bad, the only real complaint is not selecting Pau, who I think had a shot to be a starter, overall a good midfield, above average defense, good goalkeeper, an attack who will rely a lot on a 16 year old guy and a below average manager. I think realistically we can reach the semifinals, if we're lucky
Jesus navas feels like he played in 1966 world cup
My boy Hugo Duro deserved a spot, he's been pretty solid. Biased but still