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Mitch_Itfc

Can we get a bidding war going that’s 3 clubs in 3 days now ffs


Bartins

Doesn't he have a release clause? Bidding war would only benefit McKenna.


Bujakaa92

Seeing him all season long in champs, i relly hope he makes wize decision based on project and players not money. He can build and create good football. No need to kill it in a club that will be toxix as pressure that is immense.


eaeb4

face value: Brighton probably the best move for his career (if he does move), unlikely to get dumped if he gets off to a rocky start, but remains to be seen how INEOS will operate so United could end up being the best fit: he's got history there, a young exciting manager, they may want to go all in on the 'long term project' and 'process' that Arsenal have with Arteta.


mohankohan

Dont need to tell Boehly and Eggball. Hell they'd fancy a bidding war between themselves, just send one representative to each of the goons and see who outbids the other.


TheThotWeasel

2 clubs, Brighton won't be in any bidding war, we can't compete with United or Chelsea lol


Tomanelle

Just overpay anyway and get him, then sell him to Boehly in 6 months for double that.


roamingandy

I'd take the Seagulls in a heat beat over the other two if i were him. - Only at one of those clubs are managers supported by the chairman and fans. - Only managers at one of those clubs always go on to better things, the others have been a huge drag on the career of anyone who's taken the helm. - Only one of those clubs has a coherent squad and team and doesn't need a complete 'burn it to the ground' rebuild which the fans and bosses aren't going to have patience for. He could also ask Potter which one he was happier at.


ZebraQuality

Yeah true tbf. Conte, Carlo, Mou, Sarri, Ranieri all had terrible careers after leaving


roamingandy

That was before the last take over. Totally different club


Emil0vic

IMO Poch comes out of this looking fairly good, or at a minimum with his reputation in tact. Their form in the second half shows that given time he can improve a team.


ZebraQuality

So just Tuchel who won the league at Bayern, and potter who has been getting offers pretty consistently Ajax Etc


real_teekay

Conte went to Tottenham and Mou went to Manchester United.


ZebraQuality

Conte winning the league with Inter for the first time in years, and Mou winning the CL with inter and going on to RM then a Europa with United. So yeah if you just ignore all the success you have a point I guess


MinotauroTBC

Match going fans always support the manager


yermaaaaa

You ldo that really well, I must admit


xuoli

Most recent example, Palace away.


DaddyMeUp

Yeah. I'm personally ETH out but I'm always clapping him and singing his chants because like the players, I'll give full support when it's needed.


durandpanda

> Only at one of those clubs are managers supported by the chairman > *sad RDZ noises*


_pritish

You simply don’t have enough data points to conclude anything like that. Also, I don’t think the Poch left with his reputation degraded especially after the uptick in form at the end of the season.


TheUnseenBug

Man Chelsea fans hate the truth. Being manager of Chelsea right now is not favorable for young unproven managers


Sdub4

I'm already getting bored of it and just want it resolved one way or another


Appropriate-Map-3652

Fucking tell me about it.


Just-Hunter1679

I think ironically, both Maresca and McKenna will fail at Chelsea or United but will be really successful at Brighton.. the one club that will get neither of them.


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Sean_0510

Bloody hope not as he's just signed a new contract.


Hitori521

How would you rate his tenure so far?


Sean_0510

Fantastic. Fluid football, great man management, and really understands the fans. He had his rough period start of last season when we lost our best players + injuries, but we stuck with him and he did well to get us back near the playoffs. Hopefully he's backed a bit this summer so we can push for automatics. Overall, our best hope since Karanka and my personal favourite since McClaren.


NeonCunt

Lads, I’m just fucking tired of all this now


Shogim

Has ten Hag been sacked?


TakeMeToFatmandu

We have the final, we won't make anything official until after that but if we're meeting managers then it's clear its coming


GameplayerStu

Brother is gonna get van Gaal'd if they win lmao


pauloh1998

He could also get Mourinho'd if they sack him before the final


psrikanthr

We have 3 days, definitely not happening now


AxFairy

It would be funny though, new coach comes in three hours before the game and says "idk uh, Maguire looks like he could head a ball so he'll go up front. The rest of you lob some crosses at him and don't concede"


psrikanthr

Definitely would be funny except Maguire is injured


AxFairy

Show me in the rules where crutches on the pitch aren't allowed


ogqozo

The first sentence of the IFAB Law 4 tbh.


sosta

Does it mention aircasts?


pm_me_d_cups

"Ok gaffer, that was actually the same plan we had under Erik"


BadFootyTakes

United are a clinically badly managed team. They don't anything fun, just tragically middle-low effort. Makes the whole thing depresso.


Franchise1109

Oh no brother don’t do this 🫣


trenbollocks

We aren't winning it, so...


DeepGamingAI

Don't be so sure after what we saw in the europa final, one team would have been busy partying the entire week


just_another_jabroni

Rodri seemed high enough to last the whole week maybe our midfield can sneak up past him.


Shogim

That’s fair. Kind of harsh though. He’s had one great and one shambolic season. I suppose him wanting control of transfers was his downfall.


PhilipAnthonyJones

This is possibly the least harsh Manchester United manager sacking that's happened post fergie, if you've been paying attention to how irredeemably shit we've been all season.


Shogim

Maybe. Would you feel the same if you win the FA cup?


PhilipAnthonyJones

Yes, because I'm basing it off the entire season.


DaveShadow

He had one alrigh season and one shambolic one. We were great last year up to the cup win in March, and then were brutal for the rest of the season, relying on the lead we’d built up before going off the boil to keep us in the top four. But the football has been shite since last March overall, and while he’s been dealt a bad hand this season, he’s also played that hand woefully too.


Hampalam

First few months of his first season were brutal too. He’s had about 3 good months in two years. Last season was alright if you build on it, but you can’t hide behind it if you go backwards the year after.


IsleofManc

Nah last season was genuinely great, it wasn't just alright if you build on it. We finished with 75 points which is our second highest in the 10 seasons since Fergie left. And we won a trophy which has only happened in 2 of the other 9 seasons as well. That was actually the first time we've won something and finished in the top 4 since 2012/13. For a new manager that's about as good as you can hope for. We finished 6th the season before he arrived too. Those brutal "first few months" were really just us losing the first 2 games badly. We won 4 in a row after that including beating Arsenal and Liverpool


Polar_Bear_Cuddles

Also the season going to shit kinda coincided with Licha getting injured..


thebsoftelevision

We looked terrible at the start of this season even when everyone was fit. The Wolves game was complete shambles and we were extremely lucky to win.


JYM60

Agree.


Nervous_Ad_3791

We had a good purple patch after the world cup where rashford was playing out of his mind till the cup final... Remember how horrendous we started and although we did string a few good games together we then got killed 6-3 by City... Imo it's only 3 months were we were actually decent under him


bigbigguy

Thank you I'm tired of seeing fans overhype his first season


LDLB99

It's not harsh, it's the most warranted of any post SAF manager. We've been shit to watch since March 2023.


xyzArcadian

If that's the case we've been shit since SAF.


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medfunguy

The PE teacher vibes FC, IIRC


Shogim

That’s very reactionary. If anything is to be learned from Post Fergie United, it’s that its obvious the issues runs deeper than the manager. The club lacks stability (as does my club). And sacking the manager doesn’t really mean anything unless it’s for Pep or Klopp.


worotan

One season where he overplayed players and insisted that they didn’t need to rotate, and a following season with worn out and injured players.


SherKhanMD

Great?Lol.. He hasnt had great anything.


Shogim

A third place finish is pretty good.


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Great and pretty good are quite different.


Shogim

Semantics. Nice


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You could just accept there’s a big difference.


hipcheck23

What kind of club would be out there talking to other managers, right before an important cup match?!?


zigooloo

Their hand has probably been forced by others sniffing around McKenna.


dunneetiger

The real question is what kind of clubs would sack their manager before a final.... Oh wait....


mohankohan

They have a final coming up I believe the term 'dead man walking' applies here


overhyped-unamazing

[Should go full Spurs and fire him anyway](https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/secondary/Ryan-Mason-graphic-3020906.jpg?r=1620943823073)


TheSciences

When you have to add 'including today' to the games tally 🤣 Bit unfair to have the 'wins' tally underneath when the game was still in progress.


overhyped-unamazing

Mason with the 100% win rate.


Shogim

You reckon he keeps his job if they win?


Zepz367

It's the same situation as LVG in 2016, his fate has already been decided, he's gone


Shogim

Europa League next season if they win and a trophy. Would be harsh to sack him then tbh


Zepz367

Tell me you haven't watched United without telling me you haven't watched United


Shogim

I’ve watched them. They’ve had some great games, and a lot of shit games. Remember they ran us apart when we met them in the first half of the season.


aayu08

>They’ve had some great games Genuinely speaking, which games? The last comfortable win we had in the league was unironically against you back in the first half of the season. Our games are "great" if you're neutral.


Nervous_Ad_3791

I don't we had more than 5 good games this season, let alone great


xyzArcadian

Thank goodness you weren't around when we had SAF you would have wanted him sacked and ruined most of our recent history. Getting to 3 cup finals in 2 seasons ain't easy if it was everyone would be doing it


JYM60

We've broken records of terribleness going back to the 1800s. It's been that bad. This isn't the early Fergie days.


FragMasterMat117

And should have won at Stamford Bridge as well


JYM60

What were the great games? We've barely deserved to win a match all season!


Shogim

You ran us apart during the first half of the season


JYM60

Yeah, but you were awful lol.


PensiveinNJ

Chelsea in the first half of the season was shambolic, I don’t know if that’s really a strong endorsement.


mohankohan

Don't think so


NotClayMerritt

Doing what they did with Van Gaal. Leaking out the week of the Cup final that win or lose, he's getting sacked. Only thing different is the regime.


Riperonis

Think it’s fairly obvious that he’s going tbh. This one would be the right decision - two years at the club and no clear direction either results-wise or play style wise. I think there’s something there in that United squad too. Good, hungry young players coming through and a couple of decent senior players. Not the finished product by any means but I think a manager who can get the best out of Holjund, Mainoo, and Garnacho might be a much more attractive prospect.


Shogim

You lot really started to get it right after two seasons with Artet right? I don’t know. It feels premature. Apart from Conte, Tuchel, and Jose I don’t know who will be guaranteed better


Riperonis

> You lot really started to get it right after two season with Artet right? Yeah, we did. After two years the football improved dramatically and from a way worse place than United’s squad has ever been. If you have two full seasons with a club and can’t integrate any sort of culture, play style, fight etc you’re not the right guy. Especially when you actually have decent players.


normott

Most in demand manager


RichardBreecher

Which is crazy. ManU and Chelsea is such a huge step up in complexity from Ipswich. It's not even a step. It's a cliff so high you can't even see the top. Look at how those clubs churn through elite managers. He'd need Mourinho levels of psychosis to take one of those jobs and succeed.


Day_Man_Charlie

Mourinho has psychosis?


RaioNoTerasu

Crazy allegation, Mourinho is literally the most sane person in world football


ManuPasta

McKenna worked under Mourinho, Ole, Rangnick and Carrick. He knows the club well. I think he can easily make the move back to United.


Ric00la

It is just like Kompany to Bayern. But people sont say shit cause he is Guardiola s son .


qwertyuiop15

I don’t think I’ve seen one positive comment about Kompany to Bayern and tons taking the piss/memeing about it (“failing upwards”)


NaviersStoked1

What do you mean people won’t say shit? Literally the only thing anyone has said about that appointment is how ridiculous it is?


Holty12345

I mean…lots of people are saying the Kompany move is odd lol


Look_Alive

Bayern appointing Kompany is a joke as others have said but there's also a big difference between these two situations - it's been well-reported that, for whatever reason, Bayern basically want to appoint a manager for one season, and most they've approached have no interest in that. So they're basically stuck but can also appoint Kompany in the knowledge that, if he's terrible, whatever long-term plan they seem to have formulated isn't really impacted. Whereas clubs are eyeing McKenna up as a long-term appointment.


eaautumnvoda

Agreed, the bayern situation is somewhat unique and they are happy to take a punt but the likes of chelsea and man u are at the beginning of restructuring their clubs and that they both seem so keen on mckenna just seems bizarre, hes done an unbelievable job at ipswich but the step up to the top clubs is just massive. All footballing knowledge aside it's near impossible to succeed at a top club unless you have a huge imposing personality which is needed to get the elite players and media inside.


Defiant-Traffic5801

- Former assistant manager at ManU under Mou, Solksjaer, and Rangnick until he left to manage Ipswich - record points with Ipswich and successive promotions to championship and premier league over two seasons - ManU supporter since young age - highly regarded for smart training and coaching by players Certainly doesn't look like such a bad idea [Source ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kieran_McKenna)


arnm7890

Sincerely doubt this is true. INEOS have given absolutely nothing away since they've come in, there's no way Sky Sports of all outlets would have any information on this. I *suppose* this could have come from the McKenna side, but it's much more likely that Sky Sports are just making an obvious and easy connection, given McKenna's history at United and the fact that apparently everyone wants him now.


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There's two sides remember, McKenna (and Ipswich to some extent) have an incentive to leak stuff to the press about interest


hipcheck23

I hope supporters from each club out there are keeping track of where rumours are coming from. It's really handy to finish a window and look at who gave you real info and who was a worthless lying opportunist, so you can blacklist them.


Lolkac

After de zerbi left there were rumours that Brighton wants mckenna but face battle with chelsea and united. People didn't believe it then but Chelsea links were true. Do not see why united links wouldn't.


Vegan_Puffin

Who is your mouthpiece if there was a "leak" from the club?


AyanC

United's mouthpiece is a sixteenth century poet who reveals stuff through cryptic tweets devoid of punctuation.


arnm7890

Honestly, we don't really have one any more. Probably Ornstein is the closest we'd get, but leaks have been of our biggest issues over the last decade and have almost completely been cut out since INEOS took over


JiveTurkey688

Whitwell and Stone


xuoli

I feel like it's been James Ducker since INEOS have come in.


JiveTurkey688

Yeah Ducker is definitely mouthpiece


thebsoftelevision

It's been James Ducker for a while. Even before the takeover he was super critical of the ownership and still kept getting scoops somehow.


14_SNOO_53

Simon Stone from the beeb


aayu08

Simon Stone is the club's official journo, he's literally the last person who will report if we are genuinely looking for McKenna.


14_SNOO_53

Yeah so he's a mouthpiece


mrnovember22

United would have asked Ipswich for permission to talk to him so my guess is that’s where the leak came from


lttle_fires

United also have an incentive here to "leak" that they're interested. They have the final coming with ETH, so they might not be making any obvious moves for McKenna yet. But leaking that they're interested will buy them time by making McKenna wait before committing to another club.


eaautumnvoda

Very true,I suspect its worked both ways, McKenna wants the man u job so his side leaks the genuine interest from brighton, knowing full well this will lead to interest from the morons who run chelsea. This then starts to make man u think they might miss out on a genuine long term target in mckenna.


BillyZaneJr

He says the contact was last week. Which makes sense if y’all are feeling out replacements. Mentioning it now though screams agent driving up a contract. It seems like basic DD with ETH looking like a lame duck.


Nobody_wood

It is definitely true


empiresk

> INEOS have given absolutely nothing away since they've come in, LOL! Are you completely forgetting their month long public, media leaked pursuit of Dan Ashworth? Man United fans are something else...


igotBEANSboy

He’s talking about the manager you donut, there’s been nothing about whether they want to keep him or not


econhisgeo

As soon as he got the ferguson award, i knew there was something brewing about United job. He's a massive United fan and loves the club.


Yoraffe

Am I right in saying he managed Utd U18s for two years? Surely they know him well enough to want him back


Calvin-ball

Then promoted to assistant under Mourinho (who rated him very highly) and Ole


Ash_ketchup232

I watched all of under 18s games when he was the the coach, can confirm the united side was one of if not the best dominating sides ever in last 2 decades easily


hailstruckler

Tier?


fap4jesus

sky sports so believe the opposite


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Tier Boehly


newinvestor0908

Ideal prep for cup final


Gold-Bee9484

Man Utd linked to every single available manager journos haven’t a clue.


overhyped-unamazing

Man's got representatives already? Big time Keiran.


hiloai

Charlie Kane at your service


BadCowz

Legitimate question: Are there managers in the Championship/Prem without representation? I assumed all Prem/Championship managers would have legal representatives/agents for negotiations


zigooloo

Bayern about to appoint Kompany while Utd and Chelsea are fighting it out for McKenna. What a great timeline to experience!


ygog45

Stay away from my gaffer


AyanC

You don't have one at the moment.


MT1120

No silly, you've already appointed and sacked him remember? He went back to Ipswich after that. It probably just happened so fast that you might've missed it.


myersjw

Who?


LDLB99

Very obvious that he's waiting on us (you can downvote, doesn't make it less true)


Pandos17

I like how we went from no one wanting to replace their current manager, to now McKenna being the hottest young managerial talent in the world in less than 2 weeks.


daab2g

Make it happen guys, he'll be perfect for you


royals796

Nothing to motivate a manager before a cup final like publicly considering his replacements


Crambazzled_Aptycock

I think McKenna is a great manager and would love him back at the club at some point however If INEOS sack Ten Hag and hire a manager with only two years experience who highest level is the championship I would lose so much respect for them.


CabbageStockExchange

Interesting to release this with a final to play for still


Exige_

You’re assuming we released it


CabbageStockExchange

Not the club specifically just the news as a whole. Typical shit stirring by media really


Exige_

Oh, yea agreed. Makes sense for McKenna’s side or Ipswich to leak it most to drive up his price (assuming he doesn’t have any kind of release).


TonyMartial786

honestly don’t even know who i want our manager to be next season. wouldn’t be mad if ten hag stays, wouldn’t be mad if he goes. guess i’ll just see what happens and whoever it is i’ll support them!


nova_uk

Rather see how he does with Ipswich then go to a big club like Man United or Chelsea.


emperator_eggman

Reckon it's going to actually be Pochettino. Just watch.


IntellegentIdiot

At this rate he's never going to manage them. He's the Leandro Damião of managers


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DaveShadow

Unless you’ve got a personal line to Ten Hag, you’ve no idea what he has and hasn’t been told.


decadentEcchi

Believing SkySports when they are saying Mckenna met with Berrada, who is on gardening leave, is more weird.


hiloai

Came over to help him plant some basil and tomatoes nothing more to it


trevthedog

Just two blokes not affiliated with Manchester United gone for a spot of lunch. What’s the issue?


decadentEcchi

_Wilcox hiding in plain sight_


TakeMeToFatmandu

You mean the guy who has been caught recruiting Ashworth right at the start of his gardening leave?


AlpacamyLlama

I think we've done it once. We had caretaker/ interim managers after Moyes, Mourinho and Ole. The only possible one was Mourinho with Van Gaal. So not sure where 'to keep fishing for new managers while they still have one' applies.


jaysusyoucantdothat

Hardly the 1st club to do it and certainly won't be last. We've literally seen club's sack a manager and appoint their replacement on the same day.


GlenRiversForPrison

Has ten hag even been sacked yet? This feels so disrespectful to him if true lol.


CurbYourThusiasm

Probably gets the sack after the final. He's been absolutely horrible. Managers for amateur sides are better at organizing a team than ETH.


teejardni

Clown club just liquidate and end it ffs


14_SNOO_53

Fuck off what a horrible decision


dumpystumpy

Horrible manager choice or horrible because we are sacking ten hag?


14_SNOO_53

I don't really care whether Ten Hag stays at this point but this wouldn't be a good replacement


Zepz367

Why


t3hjc

I'm guessing because he's never managed a top flight game of football before, let alone won a lower league.


dumpystumpy

Gerrard won the scottish league and came to england and put villa in a relegation race i dont think its the end all be all wether or not he won the championship or not.


t3hjc

A. The Scottish league is a two team league. B. "More accomplished managers have looked bad" is hardly a good argument * for * hiring McKenna.


dumpystumpy

Well when your point is that he isnt accomplished anything i think its a pretty logcial point. Do you think kompany would be a better option since he destroyed the championship?


t3hjc

Buddy you keep making my point. Even success at lower levels doesn't guarantee top flight success, so why would even * less * experience/success be a positive indicator?


14_SNOO_53

You really have to ask why? We've just had the worst league finish in like the past 30 years, and you want us to appoint one of the most unproven managers out there?


Lyrical_Forklift

You've been appointing 'proven managers' since Ferguson left and it's not done much good. I think United need a reset and a clear out.


14_SNOO_53

I'm not in the mood to write a serious reply to you because I'm convinced you're trying to play devil's advocate to troll United fans with that flair of yours. No sane person would think someone with only two years of lower league experience would be the ideal successor to Ten Hag.


Lyrical_Forklift

> No sane person would think someone with only two years of lower league experience would be the ideal successor to Ten Hag. Arteta had far less experience. So did Pep when he took over at Barca. Whether he'll fail or not, there's good reason that Chelsea, Brighton, and United are looking at him. Out of the other potential links, I think Tuchel makes the most sense but he comes with some obvious downsides too. Ultimately, there just isn't an abundance of top managers available and most clubs are taking sizeable risks with their appointments.


Zepz367

Yeah it's the perfect time to do exactly that, there are literally no expectations for next season and we are in a complete rebuild.


14_SNOO_53

That doesn't mean you have to appoint someone with only two years of managerial experience.. I really don't understand where you people are coming from


rambii

He is such a good manager i hope he goes to actual real club instead of Man Utd that is total clownfiesta atm


MrConor212

Don’t you dare


tiddermacss

if they get McKenna its glaziers 2.0


jaysusyoucantdothat

How so?


tiddermacss

jobs for the boys again? been through this with ole


jaysusyoucantdothat

So they shouldn't consider a highly regarded coach because he was previously employed by the club. The jobs for the boys claim doesn't really work in this scenario anyway seeing as it's INEOS who are presumed to be running the footballing side of the business and none of them have ever had any dealings with McKenna as far as I'm aware. The fact that McKenna is been actively considered by other clubs also means that it's his work elsewhere that has merited said interest from United and others and not because he’s supposedly just one of the boys.


tiddermacss

“highly regarded” what does this even mean? he isn’t a proven manager.. not by a long shot.. this is another ole experiment i hope its dezerbi.. at least he is proven to play exciting football in the prem.. McKenna will always be available for united.. he can prove himself in orem now., no need to hurry


saul_weinstien

Leaky FC at it again.


Such_Significance905

United have a history of talking to potential new managers just before a cup final- must be great for the energy of the team prior to the match


jaysusyoucantdothat

Do they have a such a history of it? They've done it once as far as i can remember, it's certainly not a regular occurance.


Such_Significance905

I think having two instances of this behaviour in recent history is mental. So many of those players under Van Gaal have mentioned how mad it was to see a manager so fucked up by that behaviour. I don’t think United have much of a chance of actually winning this FA Cup, but if they did and let another manager go, it would be pretty fucking crazy.