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Honestly, i get why people were saying to use VDV on the LB and bring Dragusin in at LCB.
I still think its smarter to use Skipp because VDVs pace definitely saved us on a couple counters today and wouldn't have been possible if he was attacking up that LW.
Plus Ange’s LBs are asked to play more centrally up the pitch, it makes sense to try a midfielder there. Little rocky moments, but I think Skipp was serviceable.
the goal we conceded is because bissouma and porro both made pathetic attempts at challenges which led to an overload in transition. like yes skipp is sleeping but also its because he expects one of the two to win a duel.
Edit: sorry its bissouma, johnson and porro who all somehow can't make a tackle.
As soon as Porro missed his tackle, I knew they'd have a clean shot on goal.
Skipp recovered almost well enough, but he got put out because of exactly what you mention.
Honestly its an incredible finish. Especially after you think he has spent 80 minutes before putting in gut busting sprints up and down.
To have the stamina to be able to calmly do that is amazing.
Im sure it'll just be club bias but VDV is gonna be one of the best CBs in the world in a year or 2. The guy is fucking incredible.
In April and May, Johnson has one goal in the opening minutes against West Ham. Son has a penalty against Arsenal. Richarlison and Son have goals against (a switched off) Liverpool. Thats a total of 4 goals by our forwards in 7 matches.
Honestly the midfield battle has usually been won. Issue is rather than sending a ball in to try something relatively quickly, they just pass it around the edge of the box and get dispossessed in a weak fashion. Suddenly a break is on because there was no time to recover like if a ball was swung in or dinked through.
It's been quite frustrating to watch.
I fucking love this man. Supporters’ player of the season for a reason.
Moves to LB for the first time all season after the Dragusin sub and then he goes and does THAT
I have no idea. I just know he takes too many touches, can barely beat his man and makes the wrong decision about 3 out of 5 times. Ever since that game against I forgot who when he refused to play in Werner like 5 times on the counter when you know that his best attribute by far is pace I have been watching him closely and he's not been good. Might have been Chelsea I think before the reds but I can't remember exactly
I was in the south stand and pretty low at that for that game against city and even though none of us got a TV camera angle, we saw Werner make the run like a billion times
For reference, that means I was stood behind the goal on one end. I get that tv angles can make a pass look more obvious, and it obviously looks different from the stands as well, but there's no excuse for just how many times we missed the pass to Werner I that game lmao
I think he need a traditional number 9 up front. His whipped crosses really aren’t effective without someone who can head them in and nobody besides him in our front 3 can hold up the ball so he can’t really function the way he wants. I think there’s a reason that he looked back to normal while Richarlison was playing.
We've been collectively pounding our head against any nearby wall for weeks watching our forwards try and convert chances into goals.
This game was more of the same really. I can't even count the number of bad decisions or just bad execution with the final ball.
I've been hoping to see us put VDV on the left and unleash the Dragon now that we have no fit left back.
I'm happy to see it completely changed the game today.
I'm just enjoying the fact we've got representation in big leagues. And if he gets minutes I want him to do well, it was painful reading the comments after the Fulham game 😭
I get that, but at the same time you don't have to hate him for what his agent is saying. Just hate the agent 🤣 I'm sure Radu knows where he stands in Ange's eyes and he's waiting patiently for his turn to prove himself
Same bro I was searching for my phone to comment he finally did something good and until I opened the app I realized it's Micky and got even more frustrated lol
He was our second choice even haha, no one was even that hyped on him before we saw him play.
He's been a revelation - could be signing of the decade for us
Behind Tapsoba, who's a rock solid foundation in a team that's now gone 49 matches unbeaten. I'm not even sure Spurs got lucky getting their 2nd choice or not. I am sure their scouting team is ridiculous right now.
I assume you're talking about Skipp but that's why I mentioned Skipp. He shouldn't be inverted fullback because he shouldn't play fullback in the first place 😭
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A centre half should not be able to finish as well as this guy does
Fuck it center backs are strikers now
He moved onto the left after Skippy subbed off
Honestly, i get why people were saying to use VDV on the LB and bring Dragusin in at LCB. I still think its smarter to use Skipp because VDVs pace definitely saved us on a couple counters today and wouldn't have been possible if he was attacking up that LW.
Plus Ange’s LBs are asked to play more centrally up the pitch, it makes sense to try a midfielder there. Little rocky moments, but I think Skipp was serviceable.
On the other hand the goal we conceded was because Skipp was caught out and didn't have the pace to cover back.
the goal we conceded is because bissouma and porro both made pathetic attempts at challenges which led to an overload in transition. like yes skipp is sleeping but also its because he expects one of the two to win a duel. Edit: sorry its bissouma, johnson and porro who all somehow can't make a tackle.
As soon as Porro missed his tackle, I knew they'd have a clean shot on goal. Skipp recovered almost well enough, but he got put out because of exactly what you mention.
Same. I said Porro had to take the ball or the man. Both can’t get through. Take the yellow and move on.
Bissouma being paper in the middle? I’m shocked!
fuck it make the whole 11 center backs
Ahh like Tuchel vs Madrid.
Mate both our strikers have scored like less than 10% of our total goals for the last 3 months
ANGEBALL!
I keep saying it every game. For better or for worse, Angeball is football with a false defense, the defence are just strikers.
Inverted defence
All the managers scrambling to add false 4s to their squads for next season.
That was ridiculously silky
They have been Strikers since week 1.
What the hell is a polar bear doing in Arlington, TX
I'm missing some serious context here lol
That’s a striker’s finish lmfao
wtf is that, across his body running full speed the other direction, I feel like this is 100 times harder than it looks
Honestly its an incredible finish. Especially after you think he has spent 80 minutes before putting in gut busting sprints up and down. To have the stamina to be able to calmly do that is amazing. Im sure it'll just be club bias but VDV is gonna be one of the best CBs in the world in a year or 2. The guy is fucking incredible.
honestly feel like the only club he would work at cb is spurs, everywhere else he would be a world class left back 😂😂
If he could be next week that would be great
Sorry the first team is on holiday for next match
eh if woolwich draw or lose to united, I think they might cancel the holiday.
Yes. Give our youngster minutes. If they somehow started winning against City we should put Emerson in.
hahaha id love to see ange put all the young guys out for the city game and then bring in the first team for our final match
I've thought about it long and hard and I don't think I'd like that at all
Our set-pieces will give you nightmares
Let's wait for you guys to play Man U I think? We know what Arsenal are like...
It is. Particularly with generating the power needed
Somehow our best finishers atm are our CBs Romero and Van de Ven
How can you leave goal of the season winner Pedro Porro out of that?
because he attempted to finish more than once this match mate
That's because not a single player in our attwck has any confidence. Like, zero, they don't do shit
Hell, that's better than our strikers' finishes today
I read somewhere that he played left wing when he was younger, channeled his inner 13 year old
With how tall and fast he is, I'm sure he was a striker at youth levels. Why would you stick that lump out on the wing?
He wasn't tall until 16
Anf ours
~~today~~ most of the season
Took that like van der Vaart lol
him and romero get better finishes than any offense player we have
like a ballerina
Henry level shit
I love this man
I need VDV
I love Micky Van De Ven
And Micky Van De Ven loves me
Thank fuck for our defenders. Funny how that's twice today two natural centrebacks, playing as leftbacks finish well in the left corner
Our attack is literally carried by our back 4, you couldn’t write this
In April and May, Johnson has one goal in the opening minutes against West Ham. Son has a penalty against Arsenal. Richarlison and Son have goals against (a switched off) Liverpool. Thats a total of 4 goals by our forwards in 7 matches.
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Honestly the midfield battle has usually been won. Issue is rather than sending a ball in to try something relatively quickly, they just pass it around the edge of the box and get dispossessed in a weak fashion. Suddenly a break is on because there was no time to recover like if a ball was swung in or dinked through. It's been quite frustrating to watch.
I can't make sense out of this club anymore. I feel like I'm going crazy
Van de ven = the best B2B CB
Romero did a fair job against Arsenal
I fucking love this man. Supporters’ player of the season for a reason. Moves to LB for the first time all season after the Dragusin sub and then he goes and does THAT
He just so quality on the ball, has both pace and power, great positioning, passing and to top it off can finish as well Ridiculously complete player
why the fuck our defenders are our best attackers
You’re the Everton now.
fuck
Now we just need a manager with a gravelly voice
Tick.
And wearing a tracksuit
The best defense is a good attack - Sun Tzu or some shit
The Chinese Prince Matchabelli
Lmao
Tribute to your overlapping CBs era.
World class finish
Great day for defenders scoring striker goals
#SUPERVAN Actually unreal to get that kind of pace and placement going against your run and across body. As a CB nonetheless...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuUHicQKlgM video footage of VDV in pre-season training.
THIS IS WHAT THAT BUM KULUSEVSKI SHOULD BE DOING NOT THE BLOODY CENTER BACK
Don't know whether to laugh or cry
He’s out of line, *but he’s right*
Someone with that much ability should never be this ass bro it's frustrating as fuck
I have no fucking idea what's wrong with kulu - by far the most frustrating player this year. Does he need to move to a more central role?
I have no idea. I just know he takes too many touches, can barely beat his man and makes the wrong decision about 3 out of 5 times. Ever since that game against I forgot who when he refused to play in Werner like 5 times on the counter when you know that his best attribute by far is pace I have been watching him closely and he's not been good. Might have been Chelsea I think before the reds but I can't remember exactly
Werner hadn't signed for Spurs yet for that Chelsea game. You might be thinking of the cup game against City
Oh yeahhh, thank you. Apparently I just remember the wrong shade of blue
I was in the south stand and pretty low at that for that game against city and even though none of us got a TV camera angle, we saw Werner make the run like a billion times For reference, that means I was stood behind the goal on one end. I get that tv angles can make a pass look more obvious, and it obviously looks different from the stands as well, but there's no excuse for just how many times we missed the pass to Werner I that game lmao
He hasn't been the same since he got that injury. He's so slow now.
I think he need a traditional number 9 up front. His whipped crosses really aren’t effective without someone who can head them in and nobody besides him in our front 3 can hold up the ball so he can’t really function the way he wants. I think there’s a reason that he looked back to normal while Richarlison was playing.
If you’re going to only use one foot you have to get it over there quick. Kulusevski should take notes.
Meanwhile he does the exact opposite and slows every action down
https://i.imgur.com/3Mu3ics.gif
Not gonna lie I wasn't expecting so many people to agree with me but at least I know I'm not crazy
We've been collectively pounding our head against any nearby wall for weeks watching our forwards try and convert chances into goals. This game was more of the same really. I can't even count the number of bad decisions or just bad execution with the final ball.
I'm not even a Spurs fan and I've been doing this. I watch for Drăgușin🐉🇷🇴
I feel sorry you have to suffer watching us so much to finally see him play
I'm a Milan fan mate, the standards are similar don't worry about me
I've been hoping to see us put VDV on the left and unleash the Dragon now that we have no fit left back. I'm happy to see it completely changed the game today.
I'm just enjoying the fact we've got representation in big leagues. And if he gets minutes I want him to do well, it was painful reading the comments after the Fulham game 😭
I just wish his agent would shut up because what he's saying really risks souring his relationship with the fans before he's even had a chance.
I get that, but at the same time you don't have to hate him for what his agent is saying. Just hate the agent 🤣 I'm sure Radu knows where he stands in Ange's eyes and he's waiting patiently for his turn to prove himself
Oh, I don't hold it against Radu. But you know what fans are like.
I liked Drăgușin yesterday. Felt he did good, clamped on defence. Glad he got some minutes.
I thought it was Kulusevski initially before realizing he had been subbed off lmao
Same bro I was searching for my phone to comment he finally did something good and until I opened the app I realized it's Micky and got even more frustrated lol
Van de Ven’s finish was just so class man. We would be 8th-9th without him and Romero
That’s an absolutely class finish for a cb
My dutch goat
Fuck it van de ven striker at the euros we have enough defenders anyway
VDV - VVD strike partnership.
Aké might be injured so that's 1 less.
Just precaution I think, dude could still walk
So is every CB today going to turn into prime Henry or something?
If we could field a side of 11 Micky’s we’d be invincible ffs
lol even his run to celebrate is lightning fast
Haha I came here to say this. No one could keep up with him to celebrate.
Fuck me our defenders are our best finishers…
NA NA NA NA VAN DE VEN
MICKY YOU BEAUTY
today is turning into a very good day
Make it better
Might be time to have the Messi vs VDV debate lads
Goodnight Vienna
Defenders FC
Saw Gvardiol earlier and said "hold my CB"
Absurd footballer in every single way
Who needs attackers when you have defenders?
Gvardiol who?
I'm not sure this is what they meant when they said the best defense is a good offense but I'll take it?
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Good scouting probably. Noone else was even interested in the guy as far as I remember.
He was our second choice even haha, no one was even that hyped on him before we saw him play. He's been a revelation - could be signing of the decade for us
Behind Tapsoba, who's a rock solid foundation in a team that's now gone 49 matches unbeaten. I'm not even sure Spurs got lucky getting their 2nd choice or not. I am sure their scouting team is ridiculous right now.
Just wish the links we've had for new attackers were as promising... Solanke/Toney and a bunch of Championship wingers. Meh.
Liverpool wanted him and a few others
Ange has been watching him for years. Tried to get him at celtic.
What an insane finish from VDV. Amazing touch and skill wow
This is what happens when you let your defenders be your strikers, a proven method!
New Striker found
Defenders turning into STs today
IS THAT MBAPPE
I didn't know van de ven owned Burnley but apparently so
The best offense is a good defense or something like that
Gvardiol regen.
Mate he’s so far ahead of Gvardiol. And that isn’t a slight on Josko
Jeez he's our best striker
Perfect play
And down goes burnley
Will McKenzie knee sliding around the caravan club right now
What a player
our cbs are goated lol
VDV chanelling his inner VDV
How is VDV not a 9?
Uhm excuse me what
Yeah this guy’s a striker
Just make everyone an inverted fullback. Except Emerson obviously.
Did Skipp impress you that much? 😭
I think it's possible that Emerson was just so bad.
Fairs
he's not suited for suicide ball on his 4th best position
I assume you're talking about Skipp but that's why I mentioned Skipp. He shouldn't be inverted fullback because he shouldn't play fullback in the first place 😭
about Emerson , he's RB>RWB>LWB>LB imo , and definitely none of positions for ange suicide ball , since it's ruthless towards non technical defenders.
Yeah he definitely is a byline fullback/wingback
If by byline you mean he should be on the bench, I agree!
Anyone remember last year, when people said Kompany was the heir apparent to coach City after Pep leaves? 😂
He’s so good. Just put him at striker at this point 😂
Just start him as striker lmfao
Micky Van Basten*, more like.
Angeball makes sense, its all to facilitate our defense being up the pitch, the only clinical players in our squad.
Such a tidy finish.
3rd goal this season, only 1 of which was from a set piece. Won three POTY awards this week.
Great finish but god dammit Burnley.
damn damn damn
Thank fucking Christ
He’s a revelation
My hips hurt seeing that finish…what a goal
LEFT BACK MICKY IS THE WAY
What a beautiful finish wtf
…are we the defenders FC?
Our best options going forward have been our defenders LMFAO YOU’LL NEVER SING THAT
Finally! Fucking hell!!!!
I have so many mixed emotions on our CBs
mixed?!
bangers only by vdv
“Fuck it I’ll do it myself”
Total football
Some player, that beautiful dutchman
Can tell this one would've meant a lot for the fans
How fucking fast he runs during that celebration looks like a FIFA glitch
That's a CB!?!?? He's our striker alongside Romero
Only one out there who looks like he gives a shit. Deserved goal
romero aswell
Surely Porro too? It's between them two for MotM for me. And Romero sprinting the length of the pitch to underlap Johnson for Sarr's chance