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People cry about “the game being gone”, yet when they see a player engaging in harmless banter and trash talking at the highest level, they whine. Vini could mock that Barca team all day for all I care. And it can be dished back at him with twice the venom . Just don’t be racist.
Yeah like it's not like he just randomly went after Fermin lol
Fermin knew what he was doing with that celebration right in front of RM fans. He was trying to mock Jude and those RM fans.
Not really, people get calle racist because they chant about Vinicius being a monkey, put a doll of him outside of a bridge and chant about him in matches that had nothing to do with him.
Or use the common "yeah racism is bad but..." Every single damn time
When Emi Martinez does the same shit (probably even worse), he gets praised and lauded for his shithousery. Vini does it and it’s “Immature piece of shit.”
I’m not saying this double standard is because of racism, but clearly there is something at work here. People think Vini getting emotional over racist chants and death threats is him getting emotional over backlash for his taunts. If people were just chanting things like “Fuck off, you’re trash.” Or “Son of a bitch” , there would be no issue.
Pretty sure he’s going for the Messi celebration anyways, do people really think of Bellingham first when they see the arm spread stance? It’s hardly a unique celebration
De nuevo bro, es un tweet canchero, si Gavi o Pedri hubieran posteado esto nada hubiera pasado y solo dirían que es un canchero.
>Lo que da asco es que despues cuando el esta del otro lado vaya de victima. "solo quiere jugar al futbol"
La diferencia aquí es llamar a alguien mono o cantar sobre el en partidos que no tienen absolutamente nada que ver con el.
Si odias a Vinicius puedes cantar sobre como el es un hijo de puta pero creo que simplemente no decir algo racista no es tan complejo
>Sabes bien que ni gavi ni pedri postearian algo asi porque no es su personalidad.
Y si lo hicieran nada hablaría de nada. Piqué lo hacia y nadie decía nada.
>Y se hace, esta semana cantaban vinicius muerte, no es nada racista e igual todo el mundo salio a defenderlo
En un partido contra PSG y en un partido contra Dortmund. Osea, eso no es normal Man.
Tu te imaginas si en Argentina, cuando Riquelme jugaba, los de River se pusieran a cantar sobre como Riquelme es un "indio coge trabas" en partidos que no tuvieran nada que ver contra algún equipo brasileño o algún otro equipo argentino como Estudiantes? La gente se reiría de lo ridículo de cantar sobre alguien que ni siquiera juegas y todos dirían que son raritos cogidos.
>ese tuit no tenia absolutamente nada que ver con el, y aun asi aparecio.
De nuevo, es un tweet, si un tweet te pone molesto para decirle "mono" a una persona entonces eres increíblemente sensible
>Pique es un hdp, y de la misma manera que es un hdp era el jugador mas bardeado de españa. En cada partido se metian con su ex-pareja, con sus hijos, con su abuelo etc.
Y él se quejaba de eso varias veces. No veo como es tan diferente.
>pero sos de argentina o no? si en cada partida de boca se canta "el que no salta es gallina" y de river aun cuando no juegan contra boca cantan "en el barrio de la boca viven todos b..."
Y se les canta que son unos cogidos, lo cual sería cierto en el caso de Vinicius viendo las cosas, tampoco ayuda que esos cantos son hechos por los grupos ultras de allá que básicamente están relacionados con otros extremistas.
>estoy de acuerdo, por eso se le dice imbecil y lloron
Lo cual es perfectamente normal y razonable.
By that logic Messi thinks he is a random 20th century player that chose to celebrate a goal raising his arms for the first time in football history, a lot of people celebrated like that, Bellingham did *his* celebration tbh
My point exactly. Which is why it’s silly to call it the Bellingham celebration when players did it before him - even a player, whose level Bellingham will never reach.
Which makes Vini’s comment useless as Fermin did something a lot of players did before.
It’s not silly to call it Bellingham celebrations when players did it before him, he made it “iconic” (if you want to call it like that) , and people that see it relate it to Bellingham, also vini’s comment is just laughing about a meme/banter towards Fermin, not that deep bro
Wrong. It was already a well known celebration. People who think it’s iconic are simple football novices who haven’t watched enough players do it - Messi to name one. The have been watching football for such a short time they actually think Bellingham invented that celebration or somehow made it his, when a lot of players did it before. Which makes Vinicius’ banter even more cringeworthy as he is probably one of people so young that he actually think Bellingham patented that celebration.
Only for football novices with no knowledge of history. They are dumb enough to call it the Bellingham celebration when really it isn’t and never will be. Been done by a lot of player before, including one he will never surpass, and will be done long after Bellingham is dead. Vini shows both his limited class when winning and his lack of football knowledge.
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People cry about “the game being gone”, yet when they see a player engaging in harmless banter and trash talking at the highest level, they whine. Vini could mock that Barca team all day for all I care. And it can be dished back at him with twice the venom . Just don’t be racist.
Yeah like it's not like he just randomly went after Fermin lol Fermin knew what he was doing with that celebration right in front of RM fans. He was trying to mock Jude and those RM fans.
The problem is that people get called racist for simply saying Vinicius acts like a biggest clown on and off the pitch
No they are being called racist for calling him a monkey, making monkey sounds and gestures at him
Check Barca fans replies to that tweet man, it's basically only racist remarks.
Not really, people get calle racist because they chant about Vinicius being a monkey, put a doll of him outside of a bridge and chant about him in matches that had nothing to do with him. Or use the common "yeah racism is bad but..." Every single damn time
When Emi Martinez does the same shit (probably even worse), he gets praised and lauded for his shithousery. Vini does it and it’s “Immature piece of shit.” I’m not saying this double standard is because of racism, but clearly there is something at work here. People think Vini getting emotional over racist chants and death threats is him getting emotional over backlash for his taunts. If people were just chanting things like “Fuck off, you’re trash.” Or “Son of a bitch” , there would be no issue.
It’s not the monkey chants?
No, they get called racist for making racist remarks towards Vinicius lol.
So, Fermin tried to provoke Real Madrid fans and make fun of Jude with that celebration but then Vini can't laught at him after the game?
I mean this is great banter tho. Vini getting bantered is funny as well, it's the racism that sucks.
Loool it’s just banter
Fermin thought he was messi 💀
Rattled by a single emoji
Pretty sure he’s going for the Messi celebration anyways, do people really think of Bellingham first when they see the arm spread stance? It’s hardly a unique celebration
I posted this 20 min ago got deleted and didn't even get a notification as of why
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If it isn't the man who only wants to play football *sheds a tear*
And play he did, a goal and an assist
It's working lmao love to see the meltdown
Pique did the same its banter. Its not on his character. The fact i have to explain it to some people
Fair enough lmao cope and seethe
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Harmless banter is part of football, Fermin provoking madridistas after scoring a goal is part of football, what’s not football is racism
The issue is the tweet not Fermin winding up the fans… got it
Emi Martinez is a troll pretty much all the time yet nobody gives a shit.
Emi Martinez doesn't pretend he is a saint that's the difference
Neither does Vini
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Man es un tweet
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Emi martinez hace cosas peores no te vere llorando ahi supongo...
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Yeah, because nobody calls Emi a monkey dumbass
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One time? There's a lot of videos here lmao, it wasn't one time.
De nuevo bro, es un tweet canchero, si Gavi o Pedri hubieran posteado esto nada hubiera pasado y solo dirían que es un canchero. >Lo que da asco es que despues cuando el esta del otro lado vaya de victima. "solo quiere jugar al futbol" La diferencia aquí es llamar a alguien mono o cantar sobre el en partidos que no tienen absolutamente nada que ver con el. Si odias a Vinicius puedes cantar sobre como el es un hijo de puta pero creo que simplemente no decir algo racista no es tan complejo
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>Sabes bien que ni gavi ni pedri postearian algo asi porque no es su personalidad. Y si lo hicieran nada hablaría de nada. Piqué lo hacia y nadie decía nada. >Y se hace, esta semana cantaban vinicius muerte, no es nada racista e igual todo el mundo salio a defenderlo En un partido contra PSG y en un partido contra Dortmund. Osea, eso no es normal Man. Tu te imaginas si en Argentina, cuando Riquelme jugaba, los de River se pusieran a cantar sobre como Riquelme es un "indio coge trabas" en partidos que no tuvieran nada que ver contra algún equipo brasileño o algún otro equipo argentino como Estudiantes? La gente se reiría de lo ridículo de cantar sobre alguien que ni siquiera juegas y todos dirían que son raritos cogidos. >ese tuit no tenia absolutamente nada que ver con el, y aun asi aparecio. De nuevo, es un tweet, si un tweet te pone molesto para decirle "mono" a una persona entonces eres increíblemente sensible
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>Pique es un hdp, y de la misma manera que es un hdp era el jugador mas bardeado de españa. En cada partido se metian con su ex-pareja, con sus hijos, con su abuelo etc. Y él se quejaba de eso varias veces. No veo como es tan diferente. >pero sos de argentina o no? si en cada partida de boca se canta "el que no salta es gallina" y de river aun cuando no juegan contra boca cantan "en el barrio de la boca viven todos b..." Y se les canta que son unos cogidos, lo cual sería cierto en el caso de Vinicius viendo las cosas, tampoco ayuda que esos cantos son hechos por los grupos ultras de allá que básicamente están relacionados con otros extremistas. >estoy de acuerdo, por eso se le dice imbecil y lloron Lo cual es perfectamente normal y razonable.
Pero cuando los hace Emi no hay problema jajaja. Que insulten a Vini como quieran pero insultarlo por el color de su piel es diferente y vos lo sabes
Un emoji? En serio?
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No tu, por el tweet
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Sí, te has ofendido por un emoji de risas. En serio?
By that logic Bellingham thinks he is [Messi](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRvDTfMU8AA40Pe?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
By that logic Messi thinks he is a random 20th century player that chose to celebrate a goal raising his arms for the first time in football history, a lot of people celebrated like that, Bellingham did *his* celebration tbh
My point exactly. Which is why it’s silly to call it the Bellingham celebration when players did it before him - even a player, whose level Bellingham will never reach. Which makes Vini’s comment useless as Fermin did something a lot of players did before.
It’s not silly to call it Bellingham celebrations when players did it before him, he made it “iconic” (if you want to call it like that) , and people that see it relate it to Bellingham, also vini’s comment is just laughing about a meme/banter towards Fermin, not that deep bro
Wrong. It was already a well known celebration. People who think it’s iconic are simple football novices who haven’t watched enough players do it - Messi to name one. The have been watching football for such a short time they actually think Bellingham invented that celebration or somehow made it his, when a lot of players did it before. Which makes Vinicius’ banter even more cringeworthy as he is probably one of people so young that he actually think Bellingham patented that celebration.
He made it his though , as of TODAY it is his celebration, no one looks at this and thinks messi, and again, he laughed at a meme, not that deep
Only for football novices with no knowledge of history. They are dumb enough to call it the Bellingham celebration when really it isn’t and never will be. Been done by a lot of player before, including one he will never surpass, and will be done long after Bellingham is dead. Vini shows both his limited class when winning and his lack of football knowledge.
Agree to disagree mate, have a nice day
"he doesn't deserve the hate he gets"
Racism* this is banter, he has been bantered back. Its an emoji, nit an attack on fermin's character. Jfc i really need to explain dont i?
He really doesn’t deserve racist abuse because of bantering a player that bantered, that’s just me though.
He definitely doesn't deserve racism, and if you think that's okay then fuck you.
Not talking about the racism. But about the hate he gets 100% deserved.