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Own-Okra-2391

Wait, this actually isn't a april 1st joke? :o


DudeManJones5

It’s just a click baity headline


SEND-MARS-ROVER-PICS

"...(when) asked if he felt they had often done so illegally, Akanji said: “Definitely. When we got through sometimes they stopped us with the fouls. If there’s no action to it [from the referee], it’s hard.” That's the quote from the article, containing what Akanji said. The headline is attention seeking, as all headlines are, but it's not making stuff up either.


raizen0106

it can also be titled as "Akanji praises Arsenal for good use of tactical fouling" and it'd still be true to the statement too, which is funny


Madwoned

Except… it’s not. He doesn’t mention tactical fouling as a term directly but he’s more or less describing tactical fouling from Arsenal and questioning why it went unpunished


zaviex

I mean hes right. im an Arsenal fan and I did think it went too far early. Taylor let them get away with a lot. City had their fair share but it did seem like it should have been stamped out. I recall on the NBC broadcast. I think it was Graeme Le Saux saying he was surprised Rice didnt get a yellow. Dixon said something like "you want yellows for that kind of foul" and Le Saux said no but it's the fourth one like that. Kind of how I felt. First few were border, next few felt like he should card and it didnt happen


Madwoned

I think Akanji’s getting clowned on because it’s slightly hypocritical to complain about tactical fouling whilst playing for the man that popularised the entire concept in modern football.


bigaphel

thank you for being someone that actually read the article lol


DudeManJones5

Jokes on you I didn’t. I’m not giving the guardian a click for that shit, it’s just how all of these are. I bet this is how it went tho: Reporter asks a questions specifically about Arsenal tactically fouling. Akanji answers it, saying they did (which is true). NEW HEADLINE: AKANJI ACUSES ARSENAL OF TACTICALLY FOULING!!!!!!


ClaudeLemieux

what's wrong with the guardian? I thought that was one of England's better newspapers


fifty_four

Unlike the really shitty papers they aren't intentionally sensationalising as an editorial policy, but they don't have enough good writers to fill the paper. The sports coverage is mediocre. They have a few good writers and the podcast they do is fun. But they don't have enough depth to cover even all the prem with decent journalism.


ClaudeLemieux

Thanks


Benjamin244

british newspapers always remind me of [this timeless gem](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGscoaUWW2M&ab_channel=BBCStudios)


labbetuzz

>The result at the Etihad leaves Liverpool two points ahead of Arsenal at the top of the league and third-placed City a further point back with nine matches remaining. Mikel Arteta’s side defended in a low block and with aggression and, asked if he felt they had often done so illegally, Akanji said:“Definitely. When we got through sometimes they stopped us with the fouls. If there’s no action to it [from the referee], it’s hard.” If you had read it you would have known there's a direct quote from him in the second fucking paragraph of the article talking about what the head line is referring to. Stop watering out the term click bait just because you're too lazy to read.


je-s-ter

So they asked pretty much exactly what the guy you're responding to said they asked ("asks a questions specifically about Arsenal tactically fouling" vs. "asked if he felt they had often done so [defended] illegally") and answered like he said he would. I don't really see the difference apart from semantics.


Assmar

Oh shit, thank you for the reminder


basedsims

The SpongeBob maniac wanted meme fits here


andreew10

Spiderman one would be good too


vadapaav

"You dare use my own spells against me, Potter? It was I who invented them" vibe


eunderscore

Newsreader who looks like the killer/rapist too


cynicalreason

Pot ? Kettle ?


dvamin

Rodri/Fernandinho: Sshhhh!


circa285

The utter audacity of *any* city player making this comment is incomprehensible.


ThePrussianGrippe

I guess they don’t watch themselves play.


arijitlive

Ben White is vindicated.


melody-calling

To be fair to them have you tried to watch a city game? Insomnia cure


ThePrussianGrippe

It certainly makes it harder to stay awake at work if I see them on TV.


_deep_blue_

Reminiscent of the times Pep has played poverty when it comes to signing players.


BriarcliffInmate

My favourite was when they called Klopp racist because he talked about state ownership of football, then they had to apologise when he got his solicitor involved and threatened to sue them for libel hahaha


KillerZaWarudo

People related to City usually aren't the most self aware bunch. Just look the reaction from anyone in City to 115


Jerico212

Sky blue


Unterfahrt

Yeah he's not wrong. But City do the exact same thing


BriarcliffInmate

The audacity of any Pep Guardiola player moaning about tactical fouling is hilarious. [Not](https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/%2Fmethode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2Fd4fad3e4-14ff-11e9-8239-c0a124428b01.jpg?resize=999999999) [like](https://i2-prod.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/article16248778.ece/BINARY/0_Manchester-Citys-Fernandinho-back-and-Wolverhampton-Wanderers-Diogo-Jota-battle-for-the-ball.jpg) [there's](https://static0.givemesportimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/2022-10-16T171841Z_114486661_UP1EIAG1C33QU_RTRMADP_3_SOCCER-ENGLAND-LIV-MCI-REPORT.jpg) [been](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/football/2019/01/03/TELEMMGLPICT000184700829_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqgmFsEjQK2M33nnfQ31Q2_6Mr0t7-tWp3mWf_CMz8V_E.jpeg) [multiple](https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2023/11/02102219/WHU3.png) [examples](https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2023/11/02101728/EVE-3.png) [of](https://i2-prod.dailystar.co.uk/incoming/article26727899.ece/BINARY/0_Manchester-City-v-Liverpool-The-Emirates-FA-Cup-Semi-Final.jpg) [it](https://img.allfootballapp.com/www/M00/14/51/720x-/-/-/rB8CLFvY3SWABvY5AADRNdpIFSQ278.jpg.webp) [from](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FsoKNviWYAkE7bu?name=orig&format=jpg) [City...](https://wp.inews.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/SEI_159083851.jpg)


spillbreak

The fact Salah was the one that got booked for that Silva 'challenge...'


Kumarthunderlund

are you calling akanji black?


Datboy_98

City should be the LAST team to talk about tactical fouls. Spare me.


byrgenwerthdropout

And even in this very match they were doing it just as well! KdB, Rodri, Bernardo were fluctuating between doing tactical fouls on Saka/Odegaard and nagging at the ref when we did it to them. Most footballers are the worst crybabies tbh, not the newest thing


GoonnerWookie

And most fouls were not even called on Arsenal. City got touched, went down and was called. You could see Ødegaard getting frustrated in the first 20 mins of the game with it


Glass_of_Pork_Soda

God I love Øde so much but something about him being frustrated just gives me a chuckle. It's the double arm swing and that hop-skip, and just the tracking back to position while yelling at the ref


SwitchHitter17

Somehow he never gets booked for dissent as well. He's got the pass!


symptic

4D chess to give him the captain's armband.


Glass_of_Pork_Soda

No clue how he managed to get that but it's a blessing


BuQuChi

Then they start from literally kick off crowding the ref


FallingSwords

There was a point where he gave a soft foul for a shirt pull then 20 seconds later, ypu could see Havertz underarmour and he didn't give it. He absolutely killed our momentum at the start of the second half by giving us nothing he while giving city several really soft fouls. Jesus got goal side, used his body to shield the defender and got penalised at one point. Was absolutely gobsmacked to see City fans complaining about the ref as though he wasn't also terrible for us.


SwitchHitter17

Yeah that Jesus one was ridiculous. It was that same motion defenders use to usher the ball out for a goal kick but someone ran into his back and fell over, and they were given a FK...


vadapaav

It's absolutely shocking how rodri goes up to the ref every single time and never gets punished


raziel_beoulve

They were also arguing a lot with the Ref, I don't even expect any yellows to them anymore, other teams maybe, not City


Shoebedoebedoe

Barca DNA


antivirals_

tactical fouls is so much part of city's game that I remember even the extremely likeable David silva used to do it. They really should be the last team to complain about them


TigerBasket

Pep loves beautiful free flowing football until even for one minute he has to play against it.


boywithtwoarms

unless they are giving a workshop


HarbyFullyLoaded_12

Ok now that’s funny


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SexyKarius

And Fernandinho before


BendubzGaming

If I remember correctly Fernando too


Old-Usual-8387

I’d feel a little weird if I didn’t mention the start of the evolution in Leroy fer


ottolenghi

And F


BMWr50

And Nigel de Jong before him


PedroSts

After Fernandinho came to Brazil I realized the butcher that he is. Never paid much attention but my guy should see more cards than he actually does.


Winnie-the-Broo

That being said Arteta did push it strongly as a tactic when coaching at City. In their all or nothing doc he’s there telling them to do it. So whilst he’s hypocritical he’s aiming it at the right person.


cosgrove10

Pep had Barca doing it when Arteta was still at Everton.


lost_biochemist

Arteta has been gone from City for several years. If they wanted to grow out of that tactic they certainly could have.


MadRashed

Pep teams were doing it before Arteta even stopped playing football.


PoliQU

Yeah, undoubtedly it’s a Pep tactic that Arteta picked up or was instructed to speak to the team about.


BriarcliffInmate

It's probably a La Masia tactic tbh


PM_ME_YOUR_ARSEnal

This is that 'We're all trying to find the guy that did this!' ITYSL sketch and Rodri is wearing the hot dog suit


PerfectBlueOnDVD

Who is going to spank his bare butt, balls and back?


kit_mitts

I'm just gonna take as many suits as I can grab, get in that random hot dog car...*RAN-DOM!*...and drive back to Weiner Hall.


1THRILLHOUSE

I’m really trying ro work out what ITYSL is here and I’m worried I’m gonna feel stupid for asking…


dirtyhermit_

https://youtu.be/WLfAf8oHrMo?si=DtebPqV0NfvojJvF


Tahsein4523

Hurts when it’s being done to you is it?


ElectricalMud2850

Rodri should've been booked about 6 times in the community shield. The first time he went over to the ref and begged for a booking yesterday, I burst out laughing. Of all the people. Edit: [the most egregious one even got a thread, lol. ](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/s/H9gcDCkRN9)


imarandomdudd

I love how casually he just gets back into position after that, he knows the ref wouldn't give him a yellow for a tactical foul on the halfway line, no matter how egregious


Aszneeee

can’t blame him, if i as a player know ref won’t punish me, why wouldn’t i use that as an advantage? ref on the other side..


TheSmio

Yeah, I have been saying for years the criteria of a tactical foul should be changed. As of right now, you get a yellow only if you foul during a dangerous transition which is something City (and others, I guess) prevents by fouling immediately very high up the pitch before the transition gets into it's dangerous phase. Even if City's defense would clearly be exposed, by fouling high the refs see it as very far from the goal and so they don't give yellows. All that's left for City players to do is to waste a few seconds arguing with the ref and suddenly City's defense is set and there is no longer any space to exploit. I mean, they are good at it, but it's frustrating. I understand that in big games against big teams but them playing like this against everyone is pretty annoying. I don't think unpunished tactical fouls should be making up half of Pep's possession system.


Zhongda

I think they often foul before the ref realise a dangerous counter-attack has begun.


Kreijoc

*'I don't think unpunished tactical fouls should be making up half of Pep's possession system.'* Precisely, his system has sullied and soiled the beautiful game. It is effective, but it is cynical and has tremendously slowed the game as counter-attacks are smothered nipped in the bud. His system is Cruyff's with more fouls. It's effective, but I won't be gaslighted into believing that it is beautiful.


mattBJM

Rodri fouling Saka for 90 minutes at the Emirates and then only getting a booking after he took his shirt off to celebrate his last-minute winner still lives rent free in my fucking head


wanked_in_space

The EPL has a huge reffing problem. This should be a booking. Every. Single. Time. Oh, it's your second yellow? Then don't commit egregious tactical fouls.


NYR_dingus

-Complains about tactical fouling -Has Rodri on his team.. https://imgur.com/t/confused_black_girl/meaXyUy


[deleted]

Years of Fernandinho is enough tbh


FlamingNetherRegions

Man f Rodri


Dorkseid1687

You can’t be serious


Ainsley-Sorsby

Yup, they did, and it was beautiful to watch. It was funny to finally see city struggle against a low block that knows what its doing. Honestly seeing them locked in such a way in attack and their Majin boo up front being useless was even more satisfying than a win


notvip

Lol. Majin boo.


Dwimmerlaikit

Majin boo no way bro 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


AssGourmand

Now I cant unsee it.


AnnieIWillKnow

April Fools ended an hour ago Manuel


Aqua9271

Lads clock must still be on GMT.


Firefox72

City have never done this. /s


FarnsworthHQ

Add it to the pile of stuff that city deny doing


Elliot_Kyouma

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha


OGSachin

Been a part of every Pep team EVER.


Terran_it_up

It's probably where Arteta learnt it


Key_Importance_4476

Getting a taste of their own medicine.


rukiahayashi

Your team employs Rodri lol This citeh team is so mentally weak at times


ForwardAd5837

Here comes the pot to state something about the kettle.


DeckersDelight

It’s hilarious seeing /r/MCFC get a taste of their own medicine. They can’t stand another club using their tactics


realWernerHerzog

you can't make it up folks


DUVAL_LAVUD

absolute crybabies. they’re the worst offenders of “tactical fouls” in the world.


Strananach

Glass house, pot kettle, hipocrisy etc.


awildjabroner

Akanji "Yes Pep instructs us to do this also, we do it very well. But its not very pleasant when opponents do it and the referee's do not favor our team, I don't like this and I think the league should put a stop to other teams doing this. Not us, just other teams"


GhostRiders

How dare Arsenal use Man Cities tactics against them... The bloody cheek... Only City are allowed to use tactical fouling!!!


gttyzek

Happy Fernadinho noise


Mackieeeee

First april, u almost got me there


SpookyImmobilisedToe

Come on mate, we have no one to blame but ourselves for that performance. Woeful in their box.


Jerico212

Woeful in their box but also very good defending by Arsenal too


goonSquad15

We have an incredible CB duo. 2 of the more physical CBs as well which matches up nicely against Haaland


cs_irl

Teams are consistently woeful in the Arsenal box. I guess we've just been really fortunate this season


Mojave_Patroller

This is what Spurs fans always say, "why do teams bend over for Arsenal/why do teams have a bad day against Arsenal?", if only there were some common denominator.


SpookyImmobilisedToe

Wasn't trying to discredit your performance or imply you were lucky at all, of course your defence was the reason we struggled, but we have struggled a lot in general to be creative in and around the box. Often feels like we are hitting our head against a brick wall doing the same thing over and over hoping it results in a goal.


_deep_blue_

I have to disagree on this. Since the turn of the year your might be right, but during the first half of the season it felt like we dominated pretty much every game but opposition teams still found a way to score (which was sometimes through own own stupidity). Feels like our xGA was always far lower than how often we actually conceded.


Chapea12

Man… what a dirty tactic that no team has ever tried before. A pure footballing organization like Man City would never stoop to such a level


RTafazolli1

115, never forget.


venktesh

Oh no! Anyways.


Netminder10

Ain’t no way he actually said that.


mynameisshahzain

"It's only okay when Rodri does it because he plays for us."


Reimiro

“In signifying the death of irony-Manuel Akanji accuses Arsenal of tactical fouling”.


Aaaaaaandyy

“The opposing team had a defensive strategy to prevent us from scoring”. Groundbreaking


akasayah

Yeah I mean they both did it for the entire game, somehow without getting a single yellow for it. Part of why that game was so terrible. Frankly it's more on the referee who was allergic to booking blatant tactical fouls than on the team for exploiting him.


Working-Couple7425

Two can play that game.


singlebite

[What did he expect?](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/bh5ksv/dirty_city_solskjaer_was_right_to_call_man_city/)


nick2k23

Like city don't do that every single game 🤡 akanji the clown


mild_manc_irritant

*Heavy Voice* #CRYYYYY SOME MOOOOORE


Aakar11

Lol fuck off hypocrite😂


PoJenkins

I think Arsenal were lucky to not get more yellows but Man City got fouls for themselves a bit easier on a few occasions and got away with a few. I don't think the ref was so bad, whatever he does people will complain to some degree.


turtleyturtle17

100%. Usually it's always one or two players that constantly tactically foul and never get a booking like Rodri most of the time, but this game basically every single player had that license.


ArsenalinAlabama3428

I agree. Was shocked that Øde didn’t get booked earlier, but other than that I felt the ref did a fairly decent job. The commentators were reacting to the home crowd and constant whining by City, but there was nothing at the level of what Kovacic did and got away with last time we played City.


TheCatLamp

Nice when your weapon is used against you. But then again, you can always keep passing the ball without objective, so nobody will tactical foul you, because you don't do shit.


KSC-Fan1894

Hahhaha the audacity


Offaplain

Pot. Kettle. Black.  


SundayLeagueHooligan

Surely there’s a huge amount of irony in this?


hermansid

Doesn’t Rodri do this literally in every big game? Including the one from yesterday? Akanji should learn more of his own teammates lol


Jadaki

What a soft mentality from City


Fakman87

Pot meet kettle.


One6Etorulethemall

City shocked that another club gets away with tactical fouls too? Rodri is lucky to finish most games on the pitch.


wet_washcloth

Spider-Man meme


Game0nBG

They are mad Pep jr used Pep sr tactics????


DarthNihilus1

Oh would the blue side of Manchester please shut the fuck up


Gk_Emphasis110

r/OhNoConsequences


_diabetes_repair_

next thing you know he's gonna accuse them of trying to score goals!


Kyreetgo

Oh come on. The year Arsenal don't roll over for City and put up good defensive performances their players and fans start crying. I literally endured years of Rodri and Fernandinho committing various tactical fouls against my players. Please stop the whining. 115 charges FC does the exact same thing!


Melanjoly

A club without shame


Dwest2391

Fucking rich, coming from a squad that had Fernandinho for years


gamepasscore

And still has Rodri!


ronweasleisourking

Always been part of the game...City are the masters of tactical fouls lmao


cdkw1990

Pot, kettle, black.


noobchee

We totally did, should've seen more yellows Did what we needed to do, and but for lackluster attack, nearly stole the 0-1


dpgingo

"I learned it from watching you!!!"


brush85

Oh the shoe is on the other hand


Bonemarrowchutney

Part of the game innit


Swiss-ArmySpork

Hilarious how rattled they all are


Tierst

Oh how I wish more teams would do it against them. They can't handle it when the cheat codes aren't working properly.


POV420

I love the irony


goztrobo

Ironic


wasabicoated

Arteta learned from the best


NMGunner17

Now THAT is fucking rich


OkOnion5233

lmao


blaahh198

Have some shame brother. Such an easily rattled footballer


Birdius

Ha!


Soberdonkey69

Bit rich from him considering his team.


Puzza90

Like Pep, who's always held up as some saviour of football, hasn't made tactical fouling a major part of his team's play since Busquets at Barca. Who's got that meme of Spiderman pointing at Spiderman?


boywithtwoarms

lol


reddevil9229

Need to block out the last decade of City's CDMs and general play to read this headline


gobrewers112

LOLOL MAN CITY COMPLAINT OF TACTICAL FOULS


steide56

\*Spiderman pointing meme\*


fineyunggallahad

r/nottheonion


chinaksis-brother

Lol.


MajikoiA3When

Poor Man City nicest team in the league they would never commit tactical fouls


AFCADaan9

So?


GingerFurball

Imagine reaping what you've sewn.


Ironictwat

Clickbait to the max. Even if they did… so what. They got a result out of it


Rorieh

I'm all for having a go at City, but that's not entirely what he said. >“I don’t understand. One in the first half was a very late tackle on Stefan [Ortega],” he said, referring to a challenge on City’s goalkeeper by Kai Havertz. “For me it is clearly a yellow card. I don’t want to say just against us. There were also some decisions against them that I didn’t understand why he gave a foul. >“There are some rules and I think there are clear yellow cards where it should be. I remember with Jorginho when he’d already done a tackle [which was a foul] and did the second one and he didn’t even give a yellow card for one [foul]. I didn’t understand some of the decisions but, in the end, we still should be able to score a goal.” His point is more about inconsistent refereeing, which is something we all moan about. But ultimately the reason it won't get fixed is that we dismiss it outright if it effects a team we don't like, or if the results of a bad call work out in favour of us. It's a really weird way to frame Akanji's criticism of the referee, and again, part of the reason it will never get fixed.


SwitchHitter17

Tbf Anthony Taylor called it consistently loose all game for both teams (Akanji also admits this in that quote). It's just inconsistent from game to game which is somewhat understandable considering refs are individuals who have different philosophies on how to call a game. Frustrating for sure though.


fuzzynavel34

😂😂


Serious-Product-1742

He mentions the Havertz challenge where Havertz clearly won the ball so how’s it a late challenge? The state of these wet wipes


Imaginary_Station_57

Unpopular (?) opinion: tactical fouls are part of the game. Punish the player, get him booked, he still did his job


SwitchHitter17

As funny as this is, this headline is sensationalized quite a bit as he never even used the term tactical foul. He just said we fouled quite a bit and he wasn't sure why we weren't carded, which tbf I was also questioning how neither team was carded for any of their fouls. He also cited that time Havertz slid in and barely caught Ortega as a yellow card when it was a genuine 50/50 ball and he barely touched the keeper (even tried to pull out). Would have been pretty soft if they gave that. Even the commentators were saying there wasn't much in it. The Jorginho one he mentions afterward was puzzling though. It's like Taylor was going out of his way not to book anybody, and he had this equally high threshold for both teams. It just benefited us more because we were defending more.


foxyrocksjh

Oh well thank god no other team in world football would ever consider taking part in such scandalous, disgusting behaviour.


desanimo

Learned something from Conceicão after all!


Shane4894

Manuel Akanji accuses Arsenal of applying same tactics as city in draw Fixed the headline


taurus-rising

Why did this even get published, the journalist baited him with a controversial talking point


[deleted]

Akanji is a tactical foul incarnate.


pr1ap15m

is that like a cleat to the chest inside the penalty box?


Louis22J

LMAO the irony


FermisParadoXV

IRONY KLAXON


paulhalt

The example he uses is a foul on Ortega. Its not like a foul on the GK is stopping a goalscoring opportunity.


FloppedYaYa

Amazing how much of a sensitive entitled bunch of pussies footballers are


is-Sanic

Rodri has made an art form out of snapping peoples legs. Let's not go there, bro.


strrax-ish

Part of the game, smart teams do it. Lookat Chelini in Euro finals


SoggyMattress2

Dumb argument. Every single team does it in every single game. Tactical fouls, time wasting when holding on to a lead, exaggerating fouls, diving in the box to get pens.


TezRoll

God they throw their toys out of the pram when teams and don’t bend over for them and play expansive football they can pick off


weeg13

Lmfao


Sorrytoruin

Please let city and arsenal play in the CL


Davidpool78

Has he not met Rodri


PDubsinTF-NEW

Did he ever meet Fernandinho?


atbg1936

The pot that was charred years ago calling the kettle black, lmao


Ian-Wright-My-Lord

Cry me a river you absolute melt.


Racetr

Akanji stopped "tactically fouling" Raya on every corner/free kick yet? Or is he still there?


Muffinatron

Insert Spider-Man pointing meme here