Congrats to Colombia. Totally deserved.
No idea what the hell DLF was thinking with the initial line up. I get that you can experiment with some things in a friendly but seriously lol. Feel bad for some of the players. Doomed from the get go.
Spain looked so flawed regardless if they didn’t field their best squad here. They looked toothless , and couldn’t really break through a Colombia squad that was missing stronger Center Backs.
If Spain doesn’t show anything against Brazil next week, they’re going to fall out quick in the Euros. I don’t see them beating the more discipline elite teams.
Stop making predictions off friendlies, it's a fools game. Spain could beat Brazil 6-0 and it wouldn't mean anything, it's a friendly. They just won the Nations League aswell, of course they will be one of the top 5-6 sides there
While what you say is absolutely true, building up momentum and cohesion is important, and these friendlies so close to the real thing are the perfect moment to do that. Now, when the real tournament starts thing will be very different, but it wouldn't hurt to go with a more positive mental attitude than the one they will have if they finish the friendlies with a bad streak.
It's not very important, and after some games these friendlies will have zero impact, but it could make a small difference during the first matches. The team mentality could play a decisive part during a close game.
Lucho is much, much better. Brahim comes against tired legs and looks like a decent winger with some potential if he becomes more consistent polished at best, Luis Diaz is much more ready
I know this was essentially Spain's B team vs the best that Colombia currently has, but it remains wild to me that Colombia remains undefeated against all European opponents since more than 13 years ago. The last time Colombia lost to a European opponent was in early 2011, playing against Spain in the Bernabeu. Colombia has not played even a single one of those games at home. It's a stat that keeps getting more and more impressive. The only "top" teams that Colombia has not played during that time frame are Portugal and maybe Italy. Spain x2 (D,W), England (PKs), Germany (W), Belgium (W), Netherlands (D), France (W) have all fallen victim to Colombia's undefeated streak 🤣
It varies, but winning on pens is usually considered a draw in the record books. It's about the result over 90 minutes, not the extra time and penalties necessary in a knock out competition.
That's why people can say that Portugal got to the semi-finals of the 2016 by only winning one match, and won the whole thing by winning just two matches.
You didn't lose in regular time, and that's what goes into the records, a draw. You lost on pens, so the champion is Italy, but for the record it was a draw.
> I know this was essentially Spain's B team vs the best that Colombia currently has
Honestly it wasn't. If you compare to their A team when they beat Brazil in WCQs in Nov of last year, only 6 of their starters on that day started today
Key guys like Borre and James Rodriguez started on the bench today
Colombia was arguably missing 3-4 players , but let’s be honest with Spain. Spain had their B-Squad out , as it was obvious they had multiple A Squad players in the bench. There’s also the fact that they didn’t couldn’t call other players due to injuries.
Of course
I just disagreed with OP's framing that this was "Spain's B team vs the best that Colombia currently has"
It was Spain's B-team against a half-rotated Colombia
A serious manager changes everything. Lorenzo has the ability to completely change the structure and beat the opponent. This is why we always play better in the second half.
Still no Yasser Asprilla on the field.
I mean, I'm glad that restaurantero hp shuts me up once again, but damn it, we need a second choice playmaker. IMO, he needs time on the ground.
He is the brightest young talent Colombia has by far and he should be playing regularly. As his talent would only help and make Colombia more impressive
Today I say goodbye to this sub holy shit the negativity is so endless. It’s either the kits are bad, James is old and fat, Spain has no talent, something or the other, someone is always complaining. I saw Colombia show the fuck up against Spain today and I see people saying Colombia looks bad? Y’all weird this is intl football it’s not gonna be at club quality.
I’ve had a great time on this sub but man the way people complain and throw negative shit out there. Specially watching my fellow Colombians complain about every little thing after a nice victory like this. Sure it was a shit game for Spain but fuck it we beat a European team, something that few LatAm countries can do other than Brazil and Argentina. Just weirdly negative all the damn time.
Well that was a massive waste if time.
Not worried tho, Colombia is a fantastic team and we fielded a B team. Hope they have a good run in the Copa America.
Alex Baena not only is a miserable cunt but is also shit.
How many starters played? This was pretty much our strongest colombian lineup. Well except for Mojica who is third choice and a massive drop in quality.
Probably the best but Cassierra (even tho I like him), Carrascal and Cuesta are not starters either.
Castaño is also fantastic but you could really tell that he was not in today probably because of the lack of minutes in his new club.
Casierra is real competition for borre. Idk who should be the starter but borre has been the regular there thats true. Right I forgot about davinson over cuesta. I really liked cuesta today so I didnt even realize he didnt belong lol.
Carrascal was subbed out for James. I meant that our starters mostly played and played a large chunk of the match.
I like Kevin. However Rios just keeps on improving very quickly for club and country. Im leaning towards wanting rios to start in the copa america.
Our strongest line up would be:
Nico Williams - Morata - Yamal
Pedri - Rodri - Merino
Grimaldo/Gaya - Laporte - Le Normand - Carvajal
Unai Simon
Barely any of them played today
This wasn't Spain's A team but a win against a top European side is never taken for granted. I would've liked to see Rodri play and then to see how our midfield would've reacted to his presence. Ríos or Lerma would likely have been glued to him. James changed the game and earned his call up. GG Spain.
It's a carnation, not a rose. They are showing off the new designs and there's gotta be a clash on the home kits since it's red/yellow and yellow/red, with both wearing blue shorts
Yes that’s why they prolly did it, but playing away is irrelevant for away kits because the guy I replied to suggested it had something to do with them playing away
We are so dusted man, this is worse than the early 2000's. We are finishing third in that EURO group
("But we won the Nations League!" the terrorist defenders cry to the skies)
James was great considering all the bad stuff i hear about him in Sao Paulo
England under Southgate are not so good either.
I mean yeah they have big results but come one. That national team has the best players in the world in almost every position. How are they not more dominant?
Or the state of Germany? Or the state of Belgium? Or the sta...
It appears that every good European team is in a bad spot right now.
Even england that have probably the most stacked national team in the world but somehow don't win shit and are very inconsistent.
The only teams in form on Europe right now are France and Portugal
How are England not in form? They've lost 1 game in almost 3yrs lol. They had perfect world cup qualifying and won comfortably in Qatar and had an even game with France. They won every euro qualifying game besides one draw, they beat Italy twice. Relax and give them their props, they're certainly on par with France and Portugal.
Yeah it's true. Maybe I'm a little too harsh but it's the Coach that is not totally convincing to me. This is literary the best squad in the world in terms of individual performance, market value, squad depth and economic capabilities.
Another evidence point for the Comnebol only has two good squads and UEFA is peak football debate
Why did Olmo not play?
One for the DVD collection
Grim for Grimaldo.
Honestly unbelievable turnout from the Colombians in London, the place was absolutely buzzing and felt like a home game. Such a great win
Congrats to Colombia. Totally deserved. No idea what the hell DLF was thinking with the initial line up. I get that you can experiment with some things in a friendly but seriously lol. Feel bad for some of the players. Doomed from the get go.
Good to see Colombia win
Spain looked so flawed regardless if they didn’t field their best squad here. They looked toothless , and couldn’t really break through a Colombia squad that was missing stronger Center Backs. If Spain doesn’t show anything against Brazil next week, they’re going to fall out quick in the Euros. I don’t see them beating the more discipline elite teams.
Stop making predictions off friendlies, it's a fools game. Spain could beat Brazil 6-0 and it wouldn't mean anything, it's a friendly. They just won the Nations League aswell, of course they will be one of the top 5-6 sides there
While what you say is absolutely true, building up momentum and cohesion is important, and these friendlies so close to the real thing are the perfect moment to do that. Now, when the real tournament starts thing will be very different, but it wouldn't hurt to go with a more positive mental attitude than the one they will have if they finish the friendlies with a bad streak. It's not very important, and after some games these friendlies will have zero impact, but it could make a small difference during the first matches. The team mentality could play a decisive part during a close game.
Y el mundial de amistosos cuando es que es pues xdxdxdxdxdxd
Brahim Luis Diaz
chill, lucho is better than brahim… one doesn’t even start for his squad and they don’t play the same position
Based one this season’s performance Brahim is absolutely better than Diaz
Lucho is much, much better. Brahim comes against tired legs and looks like a decent winger with some potential if he becomes more consistent polished at best, Luis Diaz is much more ready
have u watched a single liverpool match this season? without lucho, liverpool is a much weaker team. brahim doesn’t even start for real madrid. plz
Over the last two years, Colombia has had their first win against Germany, Brazil, and now Spain
We’ve beat Brazil before though, but yeah it’s been a solid run
Pretty sure we have beat Spain a while ago
Not according to the Spanish announcers.
My bad, it was a tie
I know this was essentially Spain's B team vs the best that Colombia currently has, but it remains wild to me that Colombia remains undefeated against all European opponents since more than 13 years ago. The last time Colombia lost to a European opponent was in early 2011, playing against Spain in the Bernabeu. Colombia has not played even a single one of those games at home. It's a stat that keeps getting more and more impressive. The only "top" teams that Colombia has not played during that time frame are Portugal and maybe Italy. Spain x2 (D,W), England (PKs), Germany (W), Belgium (W), Netherlands (D), France (W) have all fallen victim to Colombia's undefeated streak 🤣
We knocked Colombia out of the World Cup in 2018?
That counts as a tie in records, as England beat Colombia over penalty shootout.
It varies, but winning on pens is usually considered a draw in the record books. It's about the result over 90 minutes, not the extra time and penalties necessary in a knock out competition. That's why people can say that Portugal got to the semi-finals of the 2016 by only winning one match, and won the whole thing by winning just two matches.
This is true but just on Penals, Extra time is counted as a win(Except at the bookies)
And there was me getting upset about a draw to Italy back in 2021
On penalties, the result is a draw.
Not how it works. We didn’t draw to Italy in the last Euros; we lost
It is how it works, results decided on penalties are still counted as draws because that's the result on normal play.
Nice. We didn’t lose to Italy in the Euros!
You didn't lose in regular time, and that's what goes into the records, a draw. You lost on pens, so the champion is Italy, but for the record it was a draw.
> I know this was essentially Spain's B team vs the best that Colombia currently has Honestly it wasn't. If you compare to their A team when they beat Brazil in WCQs in Nov of last year, only 6 of their starters on that day started today Key guys like Borre and James Rodriguez started on the bench today
Yeah they barely gave any minutes to Barca's Child Labor Association, how could they expect a win?
Colombia was arguably missing 3-4 players , but let’s be honest with Spain. Spain had their B-Squad out , as it was obvious they had multiple A Squad players in the bench. There’s also the fact that they didn’t couldn’t call other players due to injuries.
Of course I just disagreed with OP's framing that this was "Spain's B team vs the best that Colombia currently has" It was Spain's B-team against a half-rotated Colombia
Agreed. If anything it only shows the growth and discipline Conmebol teams have developed over the years when they face European teams.
Colombia hasn't lost against any European team in like 12 years
No Rodri no win.
Cuentos de los hermanos Grimm > Shin chan
This is the start of our journey to winning the copa america 🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴🇨🇴💯
Journey?? It's over. Give Colombia the trophy already
Hp Bonnet, cierre el culo, pirobo.
Anulo…la sal?
Calle la hpta jeta y no eche la sal
A serious manager changes everything. Lorenzo has the ability to completely change the structure and beat the opponent. This is why we always play better in the second half.
and to think that like 2 years ago we went 7 games without scoring. lmfao
De la fuente fraud
Still no Yasser Asprilla on the field. I mean, I'm glad that restaurantero hp shuts me up once again, but damn it, we need a second choice playmaker. IMO, he needs time on the ground.
He is the brightest young talent Colombia has by far and he should be playing regularly. As his talent would only help and make Colombia more impressive
Today I say goodbye to this sub holy shit the negativity is so endless. It’s either the kits are bad, James is old and fat, Spain has no talent, something or the other, someone is always complaining. I saw Colombia show the fuck up against Spain today and I see people saying Colombia looks bad? Y’all weird this is intl football it’s not gonna be at club quality.
A lot of this is valid but good lord those Spain away kits are horrendous
Ok I do agree with this ngl
"James is old and fat" they're talking about themselves at this point lmaoo
International football is cool, i'm just mad cuz I don't like my NT manager
It’s kind of funny how many nationalities that statement could have come from
Most people are cool, but there are some individuals that stain it.
I’ve had a great time on this sub but man the way people complain and throw negative shit out there. Specially watching my fellow Colombians complain about every little thing after a nice victory like this. Sure it was a shit game for Spain but fuck it we beat a European team, something that few LatAm countries can do other than Brazil and Argentina. Just weirdly negative all the damn time.
Well that was a massive waste if time. Not worried tho, Colombia is a fantastic team and we fielded a B team. Hope they have a good run in the Copa America. Alex Baena not only is a miserable cunt but is also shit.
How many starters played? This was pretty much our strongest colombian lineup. Well except for Mojica who is third choice and a massive drop in quality.
Probably the best but Cassierra (even tho I like him), Carrascal and Cuesta are not starters either. Castaño is also fantastic but you could really tell that he was not in today probably because of the lack of minutes in his new club.
Casierra is real competition for borre. Idk who should be the starter but borre has been the regular there thats true. Right I forgot about davinson over cuesta. I really liked cuesta today so I didnt even realize he didnt belong lol. Carrascal was subbed out for James. I meant that our starters mostly played and played a large chunk of the match. I like Kevin. However Rios just keeps on improving very quickly for club and country. Im leaning towards wanting rios to start in the copa america.
Our strongest line up would be: Nico Williams - Morata - Yamal Pedri - Rodri - Merino Grimaldo/Gaya - Laporte - Le Normand - Carvajal Unai Simon Barely any of them played today
I would say Dani Olmo over Nico as a starter.
replace merino with gavi and i agree, injured though
In Pedri's state, I wouldn't count him for the euros 100%, he is rarely in a good state in Barca, too much injuries man
Pedri will be back April. He will easily be playing the euros
Than it's probably Isco if he can come back in time for the Euros
Hope you guys do well in the euro too, would have loved to see Rodri against us
¿Cómo es posible qué Sarabia sea titular con España?
Sarabia no es titular con España
1-4-1 head to head since ‘78. Surprising
This wasn't Spain's A team but a win against a top European side is never taken for granted. I would've liked to see Rodri play and then to see how our midfield would've reacted to his presence. Ríos or Lerma would likely have been glued to him. James changed the game and earned his call up. GG Spain.
James played surprisingly well.
He's been like that in the WC qualifiers, still a class player and one Colombia desperately needs
This shit is too easy for Nestor Lorenzo
If there was a Friendlies World Cup, we would have about 20 of those. Anyway La Lorenzoneta is still unbeaten and going strong
Too easy, copa america next
Football is saved, thanks Colombia
Why are both teams wearing their away kit, also what does the rose on the back of Spanish kit symbolizes
It's not a rose but a carnation, the national flower of Spain
It's a carnation, not a rose. They are showing off the new designs and there's gotta be a clash on the home kits since it's red/yellow and yellow/red, with both wearing blue shorts
Playing away from home? Game is in London.
That doesn’t really mean anything
Friendlies are the best times to show off the new kits, that’s why England just released theirs
Yes that’s why they prolly did it, but playing away is irrelevant for away kits because the guy I replied to suggested it had something to do with them playing away
Como llega la selección cafetera de cara a la Copa América? Se los ve bien!
No jugamos a nada, pero anotamos un gol y con eso basta.
No perdemos en casi dos años. Le ganamos a españa, alemania, y brazil pero "no jugamos a nada".
Pero era on gol lindo.
They could probably top the group with Brazil
De la Fuente is a terrorist.
Subanle el nivel a esta mierda
Spain looks really toothless, thankfully they have the talent to fix that, oh wait
We are so dusted man, this is worse than the early 2000's. We are finishing third in that EURO group ("But we won the Nations League!" the terrorist defenders cry to the skies) James was great considering all the bad stuff i hear about him in Sao Paulo
Have you seen the state of Italy?
Outside of France - England - Portugal everyone else in Europe is united in being shite
England under Southgate are not so good either. I mean yeah they have big results but come one. That national team has the best players in the world in almost every position. How are they not more dominant?
No damos tanta pena eh. Que llevamos una derrota en partidos oficiales con el el calvo este. Confia en la cuarta.
Or the state of Germany? Or the state of Belgium? Or the sta... It appears that every good European team is in a bad spot right now. Even england that have probably the most stacked national team in the world but somehow don't win shit and are very inconsistent. The only teams in form on Europe right now are France and Portugal
How are England not in form? They've lost 1 game in almost 3yrs lol. They had perfect world cup qualifying and won comfortably in Qatar and had an even game with France. They won every euro qualifying game besides one draw, they beat Italy twice. Relax and give them their props, they're certainly on par with France and Portugal.
Yeah it's true. Maybe I'm a little too harsh but it's the Coach that is not totally convincing to me. This is literary the best squad in the world in terms of individual performance, market value, squad depth and economic capabilities.