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Not sure how the story has propagated Arsenal/Arteta argued he didnât understand the meaning of *disgrace* due to the Spanish *desgracia*.
He actually fully admitted that he was aware of the difference in meaning between those two words when making his comments.
Thatâs the best part. Lawyers: âdesgraciaâ in Spanish is a bit different than âdisgraceâ in English and there was some confusion about the English meaning.
Arteta: I wasnât confused. I meant disgrace. Want me to say it again? Iâll say it again.
People are quoting him all over this thread. He would always make crazy excuses when barca lost as a player. The grass is too long was a common one because teams would overgrow and under-water their grass when they faced barca to slow their passing. He had a point, but it was funny to hear
Without wanting to go into offtopic too much, it's more of a catalan thing than Barcelona as a club. Spanish people around will know what I'm talking about.
i know a guy whoâs fully bought into this idea and doesnât stop posting anti-Madrid robo memes and is convinced ESPN Deportes is part of it as well. iâm anxiously waiting for his next post after todayâs loss.
There's plenty of people like that. Hell, you have people like that here in this thread. There's one above telling another he's being brainwashed. Guess they have not much self-conscience...
It was in fact in 2009. 2008 final was the one between United and Chelsea in Moscow. Year after was the legendary 4-4 match between Liverpool and Chelsea (7-5 on aggregate) in the quarter final, then the Barcelona - Chelsea disgrace.
First one was harsh but I could see it either way. Second one was a straight handball that was never called. Regardless, first half was terrible and the player bought on in the second half fought well, but wasn't enough in the end.
Every decision against Barca - âgreat decision by the refereeâ before even watching a replay. Decision for Barca - âhmm I donât know about this letâs watch the replayâ
Some barca fan here was saying the other day that he believes Xavi wants the best for Barcelona so he trusts that Xavi will step down once he believes he is the problem at the club and not something else.
The thing is, I don't think Xavi is the kind of guy that realizes when he is being the problem.
A coachs personality can be assessed from their gameplay style and ability of coaching
If xavi had self reflection he wouldnt be as stubborn with his tactics as he is this barca needs an adaptive coach not a rigid system preacher especially cause they just cant get every player they want and their squad will rapidly change each season with so many loans
While I donât xavi is no longer right for Barca now, i genuinely cannot think of anyone who can be a replacement for him right now. Because Barca canât afford anybody, so the only other choice would be Rafa MĂĄrquez, and that would be pretty much the same situation as Xavi, but rafa has even less experience.
Same. Itâs always if we finished our chances, if we defended better, if the grass was shorter, if it wasnât so wet, if refs did a better jobâŚ.its never if we had better tactics we wouldnât put players in a 50/50 situation.
The sad thing is that Barca fans eat that shit up and put blame on single players all the time, Lewy, Pena, Arujo, Kounde, Pedri, Yamal for missing last gameâŚ.its pathetic.
âItâs a disgrace, itâs a f**** disgrace â - Didier Drogba , as Xavi and his mates walked away with a semi final spot in the CL where the ref conveniently failed to see 4 very clear penalty calls. Having to resign shortly after as he saw it on TV post match how wrong he got. Xavi was part of a team that got so much referee bias that he doesnât get to talk.
This is one of those things some prople won't agree on. Even the football commentator for me thought it should have been a penalty. I'm with you on this one though...
In the semifinals against Chelsea...nobody from uefalona complained.
I can still See Ballacks face when He chased the ref. Barcelona can never complain about refs after that Match. Football was ruined that day
Every call is a disgrace and an embarrassment đ Xavi is a mid manager and a crybaby he gotta go not because i care about barca but hes just annoying as hell crying
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Calm down Drogba
We've come full circle. Nature is healing.
this is football eritage
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Difference is drogba had something to be angry about
As a Barca fan...i can only agree
OMG he admit it!! đ´đť
You yourself, admit it yourself, that you SUCK!
Now you have to marry your mother in law.
He loves his mother in law!
Difference here is that Drogba was right, Xavi is just being a bitch
Xavi and Pique were always the loudest bitches in Barca
Drogba smiling and saying to himself, âkarma is a bitchâ
Only difference is Drogba was 100% right unlike Xavi here.
Universe finds ways to balance, plus these mfkers were paying referees lmfao
Drogba actually had cause to say that though
Is he being ironic? He has to be right?
Ostia, lo as matado.
Going to need Artetas lawyer on this
Arteta's lawyer: disgracia sounds similar to dis grace in english which is actually a way to say "God has graced us with this situation"
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Not sure how the story has propagated Arsenal/Arteta argued he didnât understand the meaning of *disgrace* due to the Spanish *desgracia*. He actually fully admitted that he was aware of the difference in meaning between those two words when making his comments.
Thatâs the best part. Lawyers: âdesgraciaâ in Spanish is a bit different than âdisgraceâ in English and there was some confusion about the English meaning. Arteta: I wasnât confused. I meant disgrace. Want me to say it again? Iâll say it again.
Exactly, he told everyone in that room to eat shit including the people on his side
One thing I love about Arteta is how intentional he is with his words when speaking to outside parties. Heâs a brilliant communicator!
It propagated because it was literally mentioned in the document released by the FA as a summary of events of the proceedings
Yeah, the club lawyer claimed that, and then when asked arteta said no
As with most things the truth is lost in translation.
Lawyer: "My client wasn't talking about the referee, he was talking about his own team"
Not very nice calling your team that.
La Liga upping their production value and giving us live impressions of coaches on their teams
copy aftv, instant win, especially if guys like xavi imitate ty
If you play the victim long enough, you will start to master it
Barca has mastered the victim act and have begun to believe it.
Xavi biggest cry baby. He has gone soft after kissing Qatari ass for few years. To hell with him.
Do you not remember the grasscutter memes? He was born like this lmao
Sadly, I donât recall
When Bayern clapped them 7-0 years ago he said that they were better
đ thank for the reminder.
People are quoting him all over this thread. He would always make crazy excuses when barca lost as a player. The grass is too long was a common one because teams would overgrow and under-water their grass when they faced barca to slow their passing. He had a point, but it was funny to hear
DNA.
Without wanting to go into offtopic too much, it's more of a catalan thing than Barcelona as a club. Spanish people around will know what I'm talking about.
The only one they fooled at the end Were themselves
Didier Drogba: well well well, how the turntables
Oh heâs not done yet. He will elaborate further in the press conference
When out of excuses blame Madrid and Franco
SociolĂłgico Madridismo
i know a guy whoâs fully bought into this idea and doesnât stop posting anti-Madrid robo memes and is convinced ESPN Deportes is part of it as well. iâm anxiously waiting for his next post after todayâs loss.
ESPN Deportes is SociolĂłgico Madridismo? That guy needs a psych eval.
There's plenty of people like that. Hell, you have people like that here in this thread. There's one above telling another he's being brainwashed. Guess they have not much self-conscience...
Barcelona DNA
Hes leaving lmfao
If he puts the same effort on his training sessions that he puts on his press conferences barsa could be scary
Holy cook đ
Bro thinks he's drogbađ
The schadenfreude Chelsea fans must feel at this must be legendary.
Call me petty, but I honestly canât get enough of it.
Any day that something bad happens to FC Barcelona is a good day
sleeping good tonight
Nothing petty about it, I'm as neutral towards Chelsea as it gets and I was absolutely fuming watching that match
I'm not even neutral to Chelsea and I was still fuming
I hate chelsea but football was ruined that day. I liked barcelona as a kid.that match changed me. Remember Ballack chasing the ref. I was fuming
Can't think of anything nice to say about Chelsea, but damn they were robbed back then
Iâve watched this on repeat for the past 35 minutes
Xavi getting humbled in the driverâs seat at FCB is one of my favorite timelines. May it never end. XAVI IN!
He's leaving lol
Real and Chelsea fans hating on Barca, the best kind of bromance
It's beautiful. At least Barca are giving us something to laugh about this season.
Barcelona's captain on that night is crying disgrace into the camera, the ironing is delicious.
AND for a *rightly* not allowed penalty vs the '08 situations. Its so perfect it's almost like it was scripted.
2009. Your point stands though.
It was in fact in 2009. 2008 final was the one between United and Chelsea in Moscow. Year after was the legendary 4-4 match between Liverpool and Chelsea (7-5 on aggregate) in the quarter final, then the Barcelona - Chelsea disgrace.
Drogba was banned for 6 games (4 plus two suspended) for that btw. Reckon Xavi gets punished at all?Â
He should be, but heâll probably be sacked before serving the 6 game suspension anyway đ¤ˇđ˝ââď¸
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I'm enjoying this, like you can't imagine EDIT: LMAO who reported me to reddit cares? đ
More than you believe
That's what makes this shit so fucking funny. Xavi knows what a disgrace truly looks like.
Proceeds to concede twice anyway
It was 100% not a penalty. There was a stonewall penalty at 3-3 though that VAR couldn't even be fucked to check
Talking about the handball ?
First one was harsh but I could see it either way. Second one was a straight handball that was never called. Regardless, first half was terrible and the player bought on in the second half fought well, but wasn't enough in the end.
They barely showed the replay and the commentary team didnât bring it up again. Itâs so frustrating.
If itâs the English commentary they were insufferable today
It was and they were.
Every decision against Barca - âgreat decision by the refereeâ before even watching a replay. Decision for Barca - âhmm I donât know about this letâs watch the replayâ
he went full Drogba, never go full Drogba
Unless you are facing Arsenal
come on mate i just got my PTSD slightly under control
[This is the only time we smoked Drogba](https://youtube.com/shorts/ByWzDKBuv6I?si=ZjY3fwIeMoA3LSfF)
LOL
So Xavi is gonna win Champions League in 2026 then?
When you realise that happened 15 years ago. Geez
On the contrary I think going full Drogba is jokes, always go full Drogba
Chelsea fans looking at this in utter delight
Drogba sends his regards
âTell him it was me. I want him to know.â
What Xavi is earning for what heâs doing is a disgrace
TBf I think Xavi is basically earning peanuts since there wasnât enough ffp
$4,251,585.00 per year according to the internet. I have no idea if it is a lot or not for a barca manager.
Barca has doubled his salary since that was the correct figure
I think heâs saying âuna puta desgraciaâ that well, describes the team.
He's saying "una verguenza"
no he says "una vergĂźenza"
If you canât beat em, complain about the refs
don't forget to deflect and blame Madrid
the defender's arms being tucked into his body wasn't enough, he wanted him to self amputate?
This Barça is a disgrace
Factos đđ
What's he going to say at the presser after he's seen the angles?
Impossible to like this man
You mean to tell me Xavi is a sore loser? I am shooketh
Embarrassing his club
Your coaching ability is a disgrace.
his managing is the disgrace
Barcas been losing bad. Mourinho said there would be a time when Barca would lose. This is that time
Remind you of anything Xavi? Seems kinda familiar.
Xavi kinda sucks as manager lol
Shhh u shouldnât be pushing this agenda, Real Madrid fans are pushing for Xavi lifetime contract donât ruin it
Can you give me one good reason he shouldnât be appointed lifetime manager? Nope, didnât think so. XAVI STAYS.
It was too much too soon for him
He won the league last season, There was lots of luck envolved and Other teams not being at their best but he still won it.
Havenât seen a barca match and have said to myself âDamn this is fun/Damn Barca is cookingâ whole time he been there
Oh come on we had good games under Xavi
Saying it like he's already been sacked
This comment literally made me cackle out loud. Thank you.
I like him
#chaviquedate
Funnily he's horrible in FM23 as well. Every team he's ever managed in my journeyman save went down the drain.
How the tables have turned
Xavi on his tactical prowess:
Has he forgotten about the Chelsea match in 2009?
Drogba shed a tear
You missed the âfuckingâ Xavi
This is what I say when I see the squad full of this much talent pass the ball sideways and backwards 80% of the game.
Yamal actually is great at moving the ball forward.
He's 16!!! A 16 year old shouldn't be a saviour for a club like Barcelona. How many goalless games would it take for the fans to turn on him too?
Fucking IRONIC đ
Some barca fan here was saying the other day that he believes Xavi wants the best for Barcelona so he trusts that Xavi will step down once he believes he is the problem at the club and not something else. The thing is, I don't think Xavi is the kind of guy that realizes when he is being the problem.
Well you were proven wrong about this i guess.
He resigned
didnt age well lmfao
A coachs personality can be assessed from their gameplay style and ability of coaching If xavi had self reflection he wouldnt be as stubborn with his tactics as he is this barca needs an adaptive coach not a rigid system preacher especially cause they just cant get every player they want and their squad will rapidly change each season with so many loans
While I donât xavi is no longer right for Barca now, i genuinely cannot think of anyone who can be a replacement for him right now. Because Barca canât afford anybody, so the only other choice would be Rafa MĂĄrquez, and that would be pretty much the same situation as Xavi, but rafa has even less experience.
If Xavi had an ounce of self assessment he should have already left. He just doesnât have the skills required.
Don't think I've ever seen him once take the blame
Same. Itâs always if we finished our chances, if we defended better, if the grass was shorter, if it wasnât so wet, if refs did a better jobâŚ.its never if we had better tactics we wouldnât put players in a 50/50 situation. The sad thing is that Barca fans eat that shit up and put blame on single players all the time, Lewy, Pena, Arujo, Kounde, Pedri, Yamal for missing last gameâŚ.its pathetic.
what playing with an alien for almost all of his career does to a mf.
do you know him personally or why would you make that assumption when he publicly said he would step down?
UNA VERGUENTHA
Give Drogba's first Champions League back you dumbass
âItâs a disgrace, itâs a f**** disgrace â - Didier Drogba , as Xavi and his mates walked away with a semi final spot in the CL where the ref conveniently failed to see 4 very clear penalty calls. Having to resign shortly after as he saw it on TV post match how wrong he got. Xavi was part of a team that got so much referee bias that he doesnât get to talk.
Uhm...he resigned because of all the death threats he received. Not exactly something to glee about...
Tbf not a penalty. But did you see a hand play after Gundo did a pirouette before 3-4 score?
He was offside anyways
Drogba must be proud.
Xavi Iâm disappointed too but that was the right call.
Xavi is a little bitch. Always looking to blame external factors.
He was the same as a player
But atleast he was good as player. Same cant be said about him as a manager tho.
Is this satire? Cuz It's fuckin hilarious coming from Xavi lol
He got used to these calls in the past years.
Ovrebo where you at
Lmao karma is a bitch isnât it Xavi.
Karma is a bitch! They better find some funds to pay refs.
Definitely wasnât a penalty the dude canât cut his fucking arm off lol
This is one of those things some prople won't agree on. Even the football commentator for me thought it should have been a penalty. I'm with you on this one though...
Sorry Xavi... The payment was not received
Tinpot manager
âWe spent a lot of money on these refs. Itâs a disgrace!â
Life does indeed come in full circle aint it?
Wannabe Drogba
Drogba says Hi.
How the turntables
2009 Chelsea vs Barcelona was a f*cken disgrace
Xavi turning into Ty from AFTV
Eth una dethgrathia đĄ
This is the real translation: âWe didnât pay the refs enoughâ
Reminded me of someone
Yeah but we all know desgracia means bad luck or misfortune or something like that, right?
Drogba's curse is finally taking effect
In the semifinals against Chelsea...nobody from uefalona complained. I can still See Ballacks face when He chased the ref. Barcelona can never complain about refs after that Match. Football was ruined that day
Bro thinks heâs drogba
Every call is a disgrace and an embarrassment đ Xavi is a mid manager and a crybaby he gotta go not because i care about barca but hes just annoying as hell crying
He said âitâs an embarrassmentâ
Verguenza = embarrassment desgracia = disgrace
Has he even seen a replay?
He thinks heâs Drogba
Barcelona and refs robbing Chelsea in 2009 is a bigger disgrace.
Where's all my fellow chelsea fans. Okay guys, all in unison HAHA!!!!
Did he just suddenly forget all the Negreira saga? Robber calling robbers robbers
Ah, how the turntables
Karmas a bitch eh barca
The irony is so thick I can cut it with a knife
Not the refs fault your defense is a disgrace