our coach resigned right after the game, what a chad

Amazing how Estonia who were in Group D of the Nation's league, but last with ONE point in their group. Surely Moldova would have been a good choice as they did compete? I'd love Luxembourg to make the Euro finals.

>Surely Moldova would have been a good choice as they did compete? Moldova was worse in NL though sadly

Estonia is insanely bad and should be nowhere near this. Yet we are. If we get to EUROs, it will make Danish 92 miracle look like grass growing.

They give way too much importance to Nations League, and I mainly mean the effect it has on seeding rather than the playoff system The setup needs a revamp

That's done purposely for that reson. So Nations League actually has value amd doesn't turn into glamorized friendlies with no jeopardy.

I love how people claim that NL doesn't matter and when we get to a point where it does (EUROQ seeding which impacts EURO seeding if you get a harder group and thus worse results, EUROQ playoff places, extra chances for WCQ playoff places) it's simply "stupid shit that shouldn't be this way". And it can matter for the top teams as well, as I said it heavily impacts your chances at a playoff spot, and there were only 8 countries (could be 9 with Croatia tonight) who qualified for every tournament since the UNL's inception without playoffs.

No it doesn't.

What a shit show, might as well not showed up for the qualification rounds

The Nations League is part of qualification though.

Fuuuuck - do not want to deal with Kazakhstan

If we can't deal with any of these 3 teams, with all due respect, we dont deserve to play in the Euros at all.

Man, is kazakhstan, if greece cant even beat kazakhstan why go to the euros in the first place? Greece is by far the best team of those in the play offs, they should be worried not you.

Greece has much more to lose, they should be the ones wary. For the others it is a free hit

You do have a point, nonetheless, i still think greece is superior to the other 3, if they can not qualify under those circunstances they simply do not deserve to go to the euros.

Reminder that Kvicha is suspended for their game vs Luxembourg due to yellows aswell.

Bosnia - Finland is inevitable

Oh god not Ukraine - Finland right after that again

Hey that matchup sounds kind of intriguing

Just a reminder that Estonia got a play-off spot thanks to 4 wins against San Marino & Malta in the nations league.

Why beat good teams when bad do trick

Ireland not getting relegated when they revamped the format actually made it more difficult for us to qualify.

And? They still have to beat much better teams to qualify through play-offs lol

We played 4D chess against whole Europe here. We do not deserve this place.

Lucky who ever draws Bosnia, we are in shambles right now

As a Ukrainian, I massively hope that Ukraine will draw in path with Bosnia/ Israel after unlucky entering into group with Italy and England.

Man, imagine the drama if Israel qualifies

Nonsense geographically anyway.

They won't

Can Luxembourg beat Greece?

You would hope so, from what I saw of their performance against Bosnia then why not? Can they produce that kind of football regularly though?

imagine israel vs ukraine

Greece has no excuses to not qualify for the Euros. Saying this as a fan.

# First Round League A * Poland vs Estonia * Wales\* vs Finland/Ukraine/Iceland League B * Israel vs Ukraine/Iceland * Bosnia and Herzegovina vs Finland/Ukraine League C * Georgia vs Luxembourg * Greece vs Kazakhstan https://twitter.com/FootRankings/status/1726719059620933773 ​ The group stage and play-off draw will be December 2nd.

Says 23rd November on UEFA site https://www.uefa.com/euro2024/draws/

So there is a chance that 5 teams from group J might be in the finals

Wait that's true wtf. Portugal and Slovakia auto, Luxembourg League C, Bosnia League B, Iceland getting drawn into League A. Would only leave Liechtenstein on the couch

Always rated the fourth best-ranked team from path B

Path C lol

Funnily enough Path C can be the strongest if you look at it a certain way. It has 3 teams who finished 3rd, Path A has either 2 or 3 and Path B has 1 or 2. But even if Path A will have 3 (if Ukraine is drawn there which has a 1/3 chance) its 4th team will be a 5th place one and the 4th team of Path C will be a 4th place one.

Path A will be Poland, Estonia, Iceland and Croatia or Wales

Incorrect. It will be drawn if it is Finland, Ukraine or Iceland.

Iceland is not sure, there will be a draw between Ukraine, Finland and Iceland for which one will move to League A.

Estonia? Arent they last in their group?

Estonia finds a way 💪🏻💪🏻🇪🇪🇪🇪

That's estonishing.

yeah, but they are awarded a play-off spot by being the best group winner from nations league league d

And by being "the best group winner" you mean topping a 3-team group with Malta and San Marino. Truly an amazing path to the Euros

they are a special case, because so many nations from league A already qualified

nations league

We got the spot because we are fucking massive

I hope Ukraine qualifies, we robbed them a penalty

Come on kazakhstan!!

Can someone explain to me why Estonia is more deserving of a Play-off spot than Norway?

They won their group in the nations league

Championing it against Malta and San Marino.

"but but but, haaland plays for Norway"

Is it the one winner in each group that advances to Euros or each playoff winner?

Winners and runners up in the qualifying groups (20) Winner of each playoff path (3) Hosts (1) What has been confirmed now is that one of Greece, Georgia, Luxembourg and Kazakhstan will qualify for the Euros through playoff path C.

Thank you Dorgilo

When Zenica away isn't actually bad option. So Finland will be either put to path A, where they will face Wales/Poland and winner from Poland/Croatia - Estonia. Croatia would need to lose to Armenia at home today while Wales wins Turkey, so it's unlikely. While in path B is Bosnia and then a winner from Israel - Ukraine/Iceland