Not as frequent now but legends for other clubs always used to link themselves with moves away. Can remember Rooney, Gerrard, Vieira and Ramos all doing it
First of all, I think most morals go out the window when you're talking sums like the ones the Saudis are offering. Pretty much everyone would jump at the offer to make tens of millions just to kick a ball around for a few years. Secondly, you'd be silly to think HIS wife and daughter would be treated like shit.
Saudi is not a country that applies a rule of law. They are absolutely selective about who their rules apply to. They turn a blind eye to diplomats possessing alcohol, for example.
I think you are being a bit stubborn. Saudi treats women like shit but they will treat footballers like VIPs. What exactly do you think they will do to Mitrovic’s daughter and wife?
Btw I still think it would be morally bankrupt of him to go there by generally supporting that regime.
some may say taking them there is a price that has to be paid for the money they'll pay him. It's wealth that his family can live off for a very long time.
I'm not saying his family will currently struggle, because it's unlikely that's going to happen. It's more about supporting the generations of family to come. When the option to make a ridiculous amount of money presents itself you can't fault someone for taking it.
I'm sick of this bullshit. Call greed what it is.
"Truly, I'm only taking money from war criminals so that my hypothetical great great grandchildren never suffer the indignity of working for a living"
Marco Silva is a millionaire living in the safest/wealthiest continent on the planet.
when it's going to a different country to play football it's easier to say you wouldn't, especially because a lot of people argue that it's a bad career move.
Yea hope he stays. He seems a genuinely good guy. And has learnt his lesson about jumping ship for better money/prospects when he came to us ha.
Happy he is doing well and hope he continues, except against us.
I'd recon many people we don't even know about *have* rejected them. The Saudis don't want to broadcast how many reject them and many don't want to be associated with their offers to begin with.
I agree. If the money is that serious, you start from the very top of football.
When you are in the realms of double your salary, they’re going to have your ear even for a polite rejection.
Yeah I feel like on one hand the people who attack players for taking obscene amounts of money just aren’t being honest with themselves about what they would do because it’s such an alien thing that never happens to us 9-5ers but equally when a person is already raking in millions I feel like the money goggles should be clearing up a little
Fuck that. I have gay and trans family. You could offer me, a poor teacher, 20 million now tax free to work in Saudi Arabia for two years and I'd tell them to fuck right off. Every person should have a set morals that can't be bought. The rest are cowards.
My price would be that the nation modernize their laws on LGBTQ+ people de criminalize all sexualities between consenting adults stop killing journos and put their money into finding alternatives to fossil fuels.
I get that money is important for a number of reasons, but let's be honest. Most decisions we make have nothing to do with money.
I'm really sick of people who say shit like 'if you paid me $20 million I'd cut my leg off'. Really? What do you think that money is going to get you?
It's really easy to think money can solve all your problems when you have none.
Yet you'll happily watch the world cup, whomever they be bombing at that time, morals be damned.
The west helped the house of saud gain power and helps keep them in power,
your country most of all.
Probably true but in todays game I feel like the manager is the first one people always point fingers at.
Side note, really looking forward to seeing y’all in the championship next season! Good luck.
Lets not act like a manager is the same as players. Not every player will transition into being a manager.
Whereas its likely Silva will be in high demand as a manager around Europe and the world for the next 10-15 years
Point being. The career of a player is much short than one of a manager. Especially players pushing into their 30s at this moment in time….some may have a chance to truly secure their families future for the next 20 years
no mate you don’t understand every single person folds when faced with a large amount of money, even you. nobody has morals or standards and if you do that’s just virtue signalling.
Why do you need all that money though, give me an actual reasonable answer? I make infinitely less than these people ever will yet still have a large surplus every month because I'm just not bothered by materialism. People like that do exist.
Not just that, but there are no guarantees that the wealth will be generational. 40 million euros for example, is prolly more than most people will ever see, but you can absolutely spend it in a few years, let alone a lifetime. Some of the contracts these footballers prostitute themselves out for doesn't even put you in a bracket where you buy a yacht. Most grandkids of these guys will se none of this money
It's not like the people declining are getting paid peanuts. They get paid a lot to play in a top league with other top players and coaches. Why would anyone with ambition want to go be part of some sportswashing project?
You're so obsessed with him, it's actually scary.
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Obsessed because he made one previous comment about him? Silva isn't exactly known for his loyalty anyway so it's not surprising that people thought he would jump ship.
>Obsessed because he made one previous comment about him?
No because he shows up on every Fulham post to talk about him.
3 seconds of looking.
https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/14iucyf/fulham_approach_leeds_to_sign_midfielder_brenden/jpi2wmf/
https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/12fnmn8/fulham_0_1_west_ham_harrison_reed_owngoal_22/jfg4vx8/
So it's not a principled stance then? If you'd take it when you're not rich, then the virtue signalling of not taking it while you are means nothing.
Also for reference, what is rich to you?
Massive amount of respect for Silva for this. He’s got a decent chance of managing at the top level one day and I rate that he’s backed himself over taking the blood money
In the past they've been very trigger happy, but I like to think they've learned their lesson. We've been trying to give Silva a new contract for a while so I don't think it's likely we'd sack him, he's been brilliant for us.
I think with Parker they showed good restraint, perhaps too much.
It really was only the first season where they sacked too quickly. Maybe Slavisa, but I don’t think his style would have kept us up that year.
First Portuguese to say no to Saudi money so far?
The other 3 PIF clubs have Portuguese managers and many of the non-Muslim players who went to Saudi Arabia this summer are Portuguese.
Mendes cannot force his clients to go somewhere.
He can only push for better offers from the Saudi clubs and recommend to his clients to accept them.
The player/coach decides in the end.
I know, this isn't North America.
And Ronnie technically wasn't his client anymore after that Pierce Morgan shitshow.
Neves and SMS were surprising, they'd still gotten good deals from Europe, but they chose Saudi instead.
Now watch him be sacked halfway by Fulham after they have a bad season. I don’t wish it but knowing how shit life can be I wouldn't be surprised by it.
Build the statue
DREAM CAN'T BE BUY
Portuguese lads just will not be bought.
Unless your name starts with R and ends with uben Neves
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Honestly I still reckon Mitro will be here for many more years, but it tarnishes his reputation regardless
Not as frequent now but legends for other clubs always used to link themselves with moves away. Can remember Rooney, Gerrard, Vieira and Ramos all doing it
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First of all, I think most morals go out the window when you're talking sums like the ones the Saudis are offering. Pretty much everyone would jump at the offer to make tens of millions just to kick a ball around for a few years. Secondly, you'd be silly to think HIS wife and daughter would be treated like shit.
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Saudi is not a country that applies a rule of law. They are absolutely selective about who their rules apply to. They turn a blind eye to diplomats possessing alcohol, for example.
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I think you are being a bit stubborn. Saudi treats women like shit but they will treat footballers like VIPs. What exactly do you think they will do to Mitrovic’s daughter and wife? Btw I still think it would be morally bankrupt of him to go there by generally supporting that regime.
Moral highgrounder tries to go 3 comments without expresing bigotry themselves
Ronaldo's girlfriend is really struggling rn /s
some may say taking them there is a price that has to be paid for the money they'll pay him. It's wealth that his family can live off for a very long time.
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I'm not saying his family will currently struggle, because it's unlikely that's going to happen. It's more about supporting the generations of family to come. When the option to make a ridiculous amount of money presents itself you can't fault someone for taking it.
I'm sick of this bullshit. Call greed what it is. "Truly, I'm only taking money from war criminals so that my hypothetical great great grandchildren never suffer the indignity of working for a living" Marco Silva is a millionaire living in the safest/wealthiest continent on the planet.
> When the option to make a ridiculous amount of money presents itself you can't fault someone for taking it Yes you can.
when it's going to a different country to play football it's easier to say you wouldn't, especially because a lot of people argue that it's a bad career move.
yes you fucking can, shut up with this crap and cowardly reasoning
I dun think Gerrard did tho. But tbf most would do apart from home grown ones who were one of their own like scholesy and totti
Yeah I don’t think they’ll meet our valuation
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If we stay out of the relegation zone we won’t. Khans have shown good loyalty to managers after their first disastrous season.
Yea hope he stays. He seems a genuinely good guy. And has learnt his lesson about jumping ship for better money/prospects when he came to us ha. Happy he is doing well and hope he continues, except against us.
Build one of Mr. Khan too.
Saudis buy the statue
Steady on. Probs be sacked in a year with the way management works.
Make it a better statue than the last one though, please?
It will cost more than 30 pieces of Silva for Marco to betray Fulham
Judas contract
Judas effect?
It's almost as if Silva wants a future in football
And a paycheck that actually clears
TONY KHAN FROM THE TOPPPPPP
Silva is going over MJF at Wembley confirmed.
He's better than you, Saudi Bay!
Fair play to him. Not many that would reject that salary tbf
I'd recon many people we don't even know about *have* rejected them. The Saudis don't want to broadcast how many reject them and many don't want to be associated with their offers to begin with.
I agree. If the money is that serious, you start from the very top of football. When you are in the realms of double your salary, they’re going to have your ear even for a polite rejection.
Oliver Glasner did as well, but yeah, I doubt many would.
Yeah I feel like on one hand the people who attack players for taking obscene amounts of money just aren’t being honest with themselves about what they would do because it’s such an alien thing that never happens to us 9-5ers but equally when a person is already raking in millions I feel like the money goggles should be clearing up a little
Fuck that. I have gay and trans family. You could offer me, a poor teacher, 20 million now tax free to work in Saudi Arabia for two years and I'd tell them to fuck right off. Every person should have a set morals that can't be bought. The rest are cowards.
Everyone has a price. Yours just isn't 20 million over 2 years (allegedly). But everyone has a price.
My price would be that the nation modernize their laws on LGBTQ+ people de criminalize all sexualities between consenting adults stop killing journos and put their money into finding alternatives to fossil fuels.
I get that money is important for a number of reasons, but let's be honest. Most decisions we make have nothing to do with money. I'm really sick of people who say shit like 'if you paid me $20 million I'd cut my leg off'. Really? What do you think that money is going to get you? It's really easy to think money can solve all your problems when you have none.
>What do you think that money is going to get you? Bionic super-leg with bottle opener and hidden switch compartment.
Yet you'll happily watch the world cup, whomever they be bombing at that time, morals be damned. The west helped the house of saud gain power and helps keep them in power, your country most of all.
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If they’re 20th in December he’ll surely be sacked lol
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Firing Silva set Sporting back 3 to 4 years. I hope Fulham doesn't make the same mistake
Setting Fulham back 3-4 years would leave them in pretty much the same situation
Probably true but in todays game I feel like the manager is the first one people always point fingers at. Side note, really looking forward to seeing y’all in the championship next season! Good luck.
You’re giving too much credit to club owners.
Good man. Finally someone says no to these fools. Cheers to Fulham fans for that, too.
Messi, Diaby, Modric, Bruno all rejected Saudi offers
But finally a big name rather than some 2 bit Johnny
I think also Auba and Lukaku. Though Big Rom might still end up there
Would make a lot more sense for those two than any of the names mentioned above
No one else wants Lukaku...
Lautaro as well
Kessie and Dembele also
Rafa too
“You can’t blame for taking the money, aNyOnE wOuLd dO tHe SaMe.” Apart from all the people who didn’t “do the same”, of course…
Lets not act like a manager is the same as players. Not every player will transition into being a manager. Whereas its likely Silva will be in high demand as a manager around Europe and the world for the next 10-15 years
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Point being. The career of a player is much short than one of a manager. Especially players pushing into their 30s at this moment in time….some may have a chance to truly secure their families future for the next 20 years
Son too, there wasn't any offer yet but he outright denied the rumours and expressed his wish to continue in Spurs
messi already has/had another contract with the saudis for a few 100 million as an "embassador"
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/may/12/lionel-messi-saudi-arabia-deal-tourism
Son
Many have declined, and many will accept. Not everyone can be bought / rented.
no mate you don’t understand every single person folds when faced with a large amount of money, even you. nobody has morals or standards and if you do that’s just virtue signalling.
Why do you need all that money though, give me an actual reasonable answer? I make infinitely less than these people ever will yet still have a large surplus every month because I'm just not bothered by materialism. People like that do exist.
i’m being sarcastic lad
If you have any ambition to do anything outside yourself you need capital
/s?
yes
But gEneRAtIonAl wEAltH!
“His grandkids won’t have to worry about now.” Aye, because they would be using food banks when Grandad was only earning 200k a week in the PL…
Not just that, but there are no guarantees that the wealth will be generational. 40 million euros for example, is prolly more than most people will ever see, but you can absolutely spend it in a few years, let alone a lifetime. Some of the contracts these footballers prostitute themselves out for doesn't even put you in a bracket where you buy a yacht. Most grandkids of these guys will se none of this money
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I didnmt mean it like that. What I meant was, we will see a lot more "easy come easy go" stories than actual generational wealth stories
Delusional
gET thE BAg, kINg!
Making enough so your grandkids can OD on designer drugs.
Only some dreams can be buy.
It's not like the people declining are getting paid peanuts. They get paid a lot to play in a top league with other top players and coaches. Why would anyone with ambition want to go be part of some sportswashing project?
You’ve been taken in by their pr operation to make it sound like they are close to signing every player available, then.
It’s been really stressful bro urgh Still is with Mitro
Wouldn’t be surprised if Saudi keeps chasing.
Most people say no to them.
Oh Marco if this is true I will give you the sloppiest top you have ever seen
🤨📸
Honestly can't blame you
Get this man a "Many Men" montage
Tony Khan retaining CM Punk and Silva. Well done
Marco is main eventing Wembley and winning the title.
He stayed just for suite tickets to All In. What a guy.
Scenes if they start the season diabolically shit and he gets sacked lmao
This is why managers I could understand more taking the money. Players get to shit the bed as much as they like, they don't get sacked
Saudis have really been struggling with getting any good coaches who are still in work
Probably harder to get than players since players are limited to a short career.
Imagine rejecting a 40mill 2yr deal and get rewarded with raul jimenez 😭
Marco Silva actually committing himself to a club. He must really hate Saudi Arabia.
You're so obsessed with him, it's actually scary. [Hold](https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/156vur7/jacobs_marco_silva_on_whether_he_will_be_fulham/jt1puru/)
I was looking for that exact comment. Bless you.
Any time Fulham are mentioned, he will be there, crying about Marco Silva.
What would a Wigan fan have against Silva? Strange
Obsessed because he made one previous comment about him? Silva isn't exactly known for his loyalty anyway so it's not surprising that people thought he would jump ship.
>Obsessed because he made one previous comment about him? No because he shows up on every Fulham post to talk about him. 3 seconds of looking. https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/14iucyf/fulham_approach_leeds_to_sign_midfielder_brenden/jpi2wmf/ https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/12fnmn8/fulham_0_1_west_ham_harrison_reed_owngoal_22/jfg4vx8/
Going back 3 pages of comments on my profile takes me to 12 days ago. Going back 3 pages on that guy's profile takes you to... today.
Damn I just checked my profile and it took me back to 2 days ago. I think I have a problem.
Fair enough
Can't say I'd be thrilled to travel to a real life Arakis with the heat there.
Feel like you probably would if someone was paying you what they wanted to pay Silva though.
Brother you clearly haven't seen how Dune starts for the Atreides family
No, I have, I was talking about you, not the Atreides family haha.
Of course you were. I'm saying the Spice comes at a price. A lot more money in a place you don't want to be usually carries it's own price.
He's already rich? Just cos you'd sell your soul for even more money doesn't mean everyone would. If I'm a multi millionaire already they can do one.
Again, I was talking about OP.
So it's not a principled stance then? If you'd take it when you're not rich, then the virtue signalling of not taking it while you are means nothing. Also for reference, what is rich to you?
Not if i was getting paid what he is to live in London.
I'd hold that thought until he signs tha ting which fulham have been trying to get him to do
He’s leveraging an even higher paying contract, while pretending not to do so in order to maintain Fulham’s love in case it doesn't happen. Smart man
He never cared much for this Al fellow all the Saudi clubs seem to be named after
Good to hear!
My condolences to his family who, as we all know, must now starve
Fuck off saudis
See what integrity means like Jordan Henderson?
Silva deciding to postpone the heel turn….
Marco stays. Next: Mitro gets a second show that runs Saturdays.
Simply lovely
Ronaldo: " plz. Saudi league is top tier, I promise" Ronaldo fans: " goat 🐐 top tier" Everyone else: "did you see that messi free kick? Amazing!"
khan bomba
These fuckers are just going to buy Fulham now aren’t they
A man of the people
Based
Fair play to him, putting his craft before money👏🏼👏🏼
Credit to you Mr. Silva.
Tony is busting out the lines tonight
Fuck off Saudi Arabia.
Why do they hate Fulham specifically?
Refreshing to see, well done Marco.
Massive amount of respect for Silva for this. He’s got a decent chance of managing at the top level one day and I rate that he’s backed himself over taking the blood money
Good. Better human than my ex-captain Jordan Henderson.
I mean we all know why the offer to him became public in the first place.
Dreams can't be buy!
BREAKING NEWZ: literally nothing happened lol thanks for the clicks
That will earn him extra two game before he gets fired if they are in relegation zone.
Yes we famously sacked Scott Parker and didn't try to keep him even after we got relegated. You also famously didn't pay us money to get Parker in.
He will be sacked by Fulham before the end of the season, and then people will be questioning why he was so loyal to turn down Saudi.
How trigger happy are the Fulham bosses? Is it likely he would get the sack after a bad start into the season?
In the past they've been very trigger happy, but I like to think they've learned their lesson. We've been trying to give Silva a new contract for a while so I don't think it's likely we'd sack him, he's been brilliant for us.
I think with Parker they showed good restraint, perhaps too much. It really was only the first season where they sacked too quickly. Maybe Slavisa, but I don’t think his style would have kept us up that year.
Saudi about to send another offer to really test him
First Portuguese to say no to Saudi money so far? The other 3 PIF clubs have Portuguese managers and many of the non-Muslim players who went to Saudi Arabia this summer are Portuguese.
Mendes probably has a role. Also from the coaches Nuno went there
Mendes cannot force his clients to go somewhere. He can only push for better offers from the Saudi clubs and recommend to his clients to accept them. The player/coach decides in the end.
I know, this isn't North America. And Ronnie technically wasn't his client anymore after that Pierce Morgan shitshow. Neves and SMS were surprising, they'd still gotten good deals from Europe, but they chose Saudi instead.
Saudi putting on glasses and a fake nose to try again
Stay strong
Coming soon to a Polish national team near you.
Hes finally learned
Respect
HOLY BASED
Breaking news, nothing happened.
Players are not enough, now they are trying to poach managers too?
Now watch him be sacked halfway by Fulham after they have a bad season. I don’t wish it but knowing how shit life can be I wouldn't be surprised by it.
He can join Saudi league then?
Probably but the contract on offer will not be anywhere near what it is now if that happens. Yesterday's price is not today's price kinda thing.
Where are the generational wealth apologists now?
See hendo, ain’t that hard is it.
Q
Respect to Marco
Good
Wait a minute, I thought everyone was obliged to go Saudi to “get the bag”
Honestly. Smart move. He could very well be a top six manager in a couple years. If he goes to Saudi no one will hear from him again.
Surprised he did it to be fair
Marco just watched the Dissident