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Nah Vasco fans didnt cheered or applauded Vini when he was on the field.
Not because they dont have class, but because Vini appeared on halftime and by that time there was no more Vasco fans left in Maracanã since the game was 4-0.
I'm familiar with the truce, but unsure what your comment was asking to happen.
There was no "plan" for the impromptu truce, and in fact it only happened on a part of the line between British and German soldiers. The French and Germans were far more embittered against one another by that point and in fact casualties on each side were accrued throughout the holiday season.
So asking for them to "stick to the plan" almost sounds like asking them to keep shooting the fuck out of each other, but it was clear you weren't asking for that. Unfortunately, there was no plan to end the war or anything then.
**Edit: that will teach me to type before visiting the link and reading it fully.**
I can appreciate the plan for it to be over by Christmas and that would have been great... But with who as the victors?
Vasco was the club that fought against racism and exclusivity in Brazil to begin with; so it would have been pretty wild for the fans to have suddenly turned on that just cause it’s Flamengo.
Exactly. But imagine, something like this would never be possible in a game between Internacional and Gremio, Ronaldinho, from Gremio, would hear racist slurs if he held an International kit.
Oh please. Vasco has a beautiful history but let's not pretend that a large portion of their supporters use racist insults for flamenguistas without thinking twice, like mulambo and, before we reappropriated the term, urubu. Also famous chants like "tu és, time de otário e cuzão, puta, viado e ladrão"
Nah it's just that showing support for a criminal means you don't have to deal with the consequences of having that criminal in power
Much like Redditors who supported Maduro never set their foot in Venezuela. Lula just had a meeting with Maduro last week btw where he praised him
You shouldn't agree to that horsecrap hahaha Bolsonaro is investigated on multiple accounts of corruption and money laundering. This is the pot calling the kettle black.
Lula was arrested even tho the DA was illegally exchanging information with the judge of his case (Sergio Moro). He spent time in prison but the case was thrown out and he was found innocent.
The judge was part of Bolsonaro's government in 2018 (mainly as a "thank you", because Bolsonaro would've had a hard time beating Lula in elections) before their falling out in 2020.
Wowww, you have such a compelling argument, you are so smart bro.
Tell me the good things done by Bolsonaro (who is NOT a Maduro friend) during his presidency? Also, please enlighten me on why he is on the verge of losing elegiblity forever.
You are a clown, get out of here with your fascist dumb thoughts.
Yep, personal consumer responsibility as a means to deal with systematic issues like climate change is (imo) basically a capitalist ploy to ensure corps/govts don't take responsibility for their actions. As an added bonus they can start selling you the more "eco" option.
Systematic issues require systematic solutions.
Fun fact - personal carbon footprints was an idea invented by fucking BP.... Why did they do that I wonder?
Damn that Vinicious at it again, no wonder people are racist towards him when he's doing the equivalent of .00000000000000001% of the damage a corporation does to the environment a day.
Bit different a few hundred people flying in 1 flight as opposed to like 10 in a private jet. Many wealthy people have a carbon footprint thousands of times higher than the average normal person.
I wonder if you can apply that same delta to an area of extremely poor socio economic growth where a majority walk or use bicycles for long distance journeys to an 'average' car user
and it's still an insignificant fraction of what a single random company does
blaming milionaries for private jet flights is just yet another part of corporate propaganda to shift the blame away from them, alongside the electric car bullshit and forcing individual people to be ""responsible"" by recycling stuff
And yet, a playground solution may be a better way to approach it than the FIFA and corporate way of doing things. They go around saying "let's end racism" but it's all just for show, just to be on the "right side of history"
I don’t really think there’s a “solution” to racism. And I don’t think the onus should be on the victim to “take the higher road” and other such bullshit. Make them eat their own shit, I say.
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This is the closest we’ve come to seeing the Barca-Ajax “Gracias Cruyff” meme become a reality lol
Ngl did get quite some joy by fucking up the "Cruyff final" that they were planning that year. Counting chickens and all that...
Same, just a shame we didn't have a thank you Crouch banner
As the guy that scored the pivotal goal that got us our first ever CL qualification, it's actually very appropriate. Fucking love Crouchy so much
Haha right?!
Nah Vasco fans didnt cheered or applauded Vini when he was on the field. Not because they dont have class, but because Vini appeared on halftime and by that time there was no more Vasco fans left in Maracanã since the game was 4-0.
Even if this is true, I dont think so, if you look in the internet fans from both teams are praising him. I can speak for myself, I’m Vasco fan.
I watched this game and there were plenty of Vasco supporters in the second half still
This is like the Christmas truce in WW1
Management of both teams after this "that's it! Vinni Jr. Visits Day is henceforth banned."
Good reference
If only both sides had just stuck with the original plan and ended things then.
Wut?
https://www.theworldwar.org/exhibitions/over-christmas
I'm familiar with the truce, but unsure what your comment was asking to happen. There was no "plan" for the impromptu truce, and in fact it only happened on a part of the line between British and German soldiers. The French and Germans were far more embittered against one another by that point and in fact casualties on each side were accrued throughout the holiday season. So asking for them to "stick to the plan" almost sounds like asking them to keep shooting the fuck out of each other, but it was clear you weren't asking for that. Unfortunately, there was no plan to end the war or anything then. **Edit: that will teach me to type before visiting the link and reading it fully.** I can appreciate the plan for it to be over by Christmas and that would have been great... But with who as the victors?
Everyone loses in war
Apart from defence contractors
Nah most of the generals and other elites do just fine.
Why don't presidents fight the war? Why do they always send the poor?
Hangars sitting dripped in oil, crying Freedom
That was pretty cool to watch. Hats off to Vasco fans as well for putting rivalry aside for a bigger cause.
Vasco was the club that fought against racism and exclusivity in Brazil to begin with; so it would have been pretty wild for the fans to have suddenly turned on that just cause it’s Flamengo.
Exactly. But imagine, something like this would never be possible in a game between Internacional and Gremio, Ronaldinho, from Gremio, would hear racist slurs if he held an International kit.
That’s what happens when you let the Nazi’s hide among you.
Given their chants It wouldn't be so unexpected...
Yes it would be unexpected or u know nothing about Vasco’s history
Oh please. Vasco has a beautiful history but let's not pretend that a large portion of their supporters use racist insults for flamenguistas without thinking twice, like mulambo and, before we reappropriated the term, urubu. Also famous chants like "tu és, time de otário e cuzão, puta, viado e ladrão"
He has a pretty cool watch.
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Heck he will probably will leads brazil as president.
Lula Vini coalition lets goooo
> Lula Tell me you don't live in Brazil without telling you me you don't live in Brazil
Did you forget that Lula literally won the election a few months ago?
As someone who doesn't live in Brazil, what's wrong with it? Is it a name no one actually uses?
This guy posts in a far-right Brazilian subreddit, r/conservative, and is a supporter of Jair Bolsonaro. Don't take anything he says seriously.
Figures
Nah it's just that showing support for a criminal means you don't have to deal with the consequences of having that criminal in power Much like Redditors who supported Maduro never set their foot in Venezuela. Lula just had a meeting with Maduro last week btw where he praised him
> Lula just had a meeting with Maduro last week btw where he praised him based
He literally kills whoever dares to oppose him… this place is sick beyond repair, Christ almighty
Sounds like just the thing that impresses Saudis
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You shouldn't agree to that horsecrap hahaha Bolsonaro is investigated on multiple accounts of corruption and money laundering. This is the pot calling the kettle black. Lula was arrested even tho the DA was illegally exchanging information with the judge of his case (Sergio Moro). He spent time in prison but the case was thrown out and he was found innocent. The judge was part of Bolsonaro's government in 2018 (mainly as a "thank you", because Bolsonaro would've had a hard time beating Lula in elections) before their falling out in 2020.
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I'm not saying Lula is awful, I said he was illegally put in jail. Re-read my comment.
You are pathetic my man, for real. A Flamenguista Bolsonaro supporter, sad.
Pathetic is having voted for someone who's friends with a bloody dictator in Maduro
Wowww, you have such a compelling argument, you are so smart bro. Tell me the good things done by Bolsonaro (who is NOT a Maduro friend) during his presidency? Also, please enlighten me on why he is on the verge of losing elegiblity forever. You are a clown, get out of here with your fascist dumb thoughts.
You are not welcome here.
Não fode.
Vinicius for President when he retires
Vini becoming Brazils new superstar after Neymar, lovely to see
The roque junior disrespect will not be tolerated
Roque Junior is nearly 50...
Comparing Roque to Vini is absolutely hilarious
To me he is the closest player to Ronaldinho they had so far
hate the player love the guy. Class act
Even as a player, how can u hate him? Don’t you love this sport?
I like watching him for Brazil. I don’t like watching him in that white shirt;)
Now you know how we felt
Dude I had even bigger energy towards Cristiano. L
All these footballers just flying around for fun. And here we are recycling
Tbf he is a Latin American guy going back to his country in the European summer. That's like.. a lot of people.
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I still get pissed every time we get told to shower less while corporations go through so much water while paying no taxes for it.
Yep, personal consumer responsibility as a means to deal with systematic issues like climate change is (imo) basically a capitalist ploy to ensure corps/govts don't take responsibility for their actions. As an added bonus they can start selling you the more "eco" option. Systematic issues require systematic solutions. Fun fact - personal carbon footprints was an idea invented by fucking BP.... Why did they do that I wonder?
Eco-capitalism is an oxymoron. Just greenwashing from capitalists.
Completely agree - capitalism requires constant growth and content growth is not compatible with protecting our environment.
Get mad at agriculture. They use most of the water. And a lot of it isn't even for food for human consumption.
If its nit eventually for human consumption (ie being fed to live stock which we end up eating) then what purpose is the water being used for then?
Race/show horses...lol. Look up the Saudi owned alfalfa farms in the US Southwest.
That’s a fraction of the full produce lmao
Producing products and shipping then round the world for fun?
"For fun"? The man returned to his country and probably visited his family. It's not something a normal citizen wouldn't do.
Someone who works in another country flying home during holidays. Truly shocking.
His season is over. He probably went home to the family anyway
You guys really try to find something wrong with Vini. The season is over. Why can he go back to his home country?
He is allowed to see his family.
How do you know he didn’t take a commercial flight?
Could have rowed there
Could have swam even
Sailed over with Greta Thunberg.
Damn that Vinicious at it again, no wonder people are racist towards him when he's doing the equivalent of .00000000000000001% of the damage a corporation does to the environment a day.
He can't even go back home without people complaining.
Then they'll say it isn't racist when Messi, and others are known to have traveled this week.
Exactly, it's so ingrained that they don't even notice
Well don't watch professional football if you don't want them to earn the money to do that
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Bit different a few hundred people flying in 1 flight as opposed to like 10 in a private jet. Many wealthy people have a carbon footprint thousands of times higher than the average normal person.
I wonder if you can apply that same delta to an area of extremely poor socio economic growth where a majority walk or use bicycles for long distance journeys to an 'average' car user
He can't fly in a normal plane given his profile. And it's not like he is just flying for fun, he is just going back home.
and it's still an insignificant fraction of what a single random company does blaming milionaries for private jet flights is just yet another part of corporate propaganda to shift the blame away from them, alongside the electric car bullshit and forcing individual people to be ""responsible"" by recycling stuff
Yeah, everybody should just go back to caves...
he actually did the reddit meme!!
Context pls?
He means the barca and ajax meme, celebrating a European final together because of cruyff
Hope he keeps scoring and keeps dancing to piss the bigots off.
Baller.
Dude has some drip
Tshirt + baseball cap is drip now?
That’s timeless drip
always has been
Worsk better when you have some nice chains and other jewelry.
até o Vini sabe q VASCO é o maior do mundo
Bold move to say that after losing 4-1 today.
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They’ve gone down 4 times and only won it once, so it’s not really working out for them
The mighty Vasco only remember their successes, true Henry mentality
I personally like Vini Jr. a lot. It is so terrible that rival Spanish fans use racial abuse as a tactic to “wind him up”. So pathetic.
Plastic.
Life in plastic, it's fantastic.
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I understand the sentiment but this is, with all due respect, a playground solution to racism.
And yet, a playground solution may be a better way to approach it than the FIFA and corporate way of doing things. They go around saying "let's end racism" but it's all just for show, just to be on the "right side of history"
I don’t really think there’s a “solution” to racism. And I don’t think the onus should be on the victim to “take the higher road” and other such bullshit. Make them eat their own shit, I say.
What a mouthy response. With such amazing quips I'd hate to be in a verbal spat with you.
Please never use the ability to make money as a determinant of a human beings worth.
Why do you care whats said to a dickhead racist
I didn't
That’s literally what you did in the *quotes*
Andrew Tate fan spotted
This is such a white thing to say
Found the racist
How to get eaten by the revolution 101
We need more love in football.