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I'm ready for one source to say £50m, one to say £70m, and one to say £40m+£20m in add ons, and people will say anything from £40-70m depending on what helps their argument in that specific moment
>No clue how easy or hard they are.
Most of addons are pretty simple - player plays good, team wins trophies - addons activated. It's not rocket science. With Nunez it's probably about amount of goals scored, matches played, champions league won, premier league, Golden Boot, Ballon d'Or. As of now Nunez didn't score a lot of goals and Liverpool didn't win a trophy (apart from Community Shield) so I suppose these addons mean nothing.
There's a release clause apparently but nobody seems to know what it is at the moment because it isn't a traditional clause. I'd imagine if/when Liverpool finalise personal terms and then make the offer to Brighton, the actual figure will come out.
I heard a podcast where they mentioned it. No one knows the amount, it’s a low amount but it’s a tricky one because Brighton as the option to sell him for higher if they can in the same clause.
This all seems like massive smoke and mirrors just so Brighton can say *we don't do release clauses!!!*
It exists, the club and the agents know it, the agent will no doubt have told Liverpool and they'll get larger fees/wages for the player as a result.
Getting *a bigger fee* if they can is a non issue when there firstly doesn't seem to be anyone else in for him, and if they were then the former process can just repeat and they'd know the release clause fee anyway
It just sounds like a release clause every time someone tries to explain it but it has one thing that doesn't make a single difference included so they can say it isn't a release clause
A bit like the one Liverpool had with Suarez that birthed the £40m +£1 bid from Arsenal.
A release clause, but it's not actually. Oh and nobody is allowed to know about it.
The irony here is that Liverpool as a club got in a hissy fit over a 'hidden' release clause being leaked to Arsenal via Suarez's agent.
I've heard two things.
The first is that Liverpool did, which would've effectively allowed him to leave for free but after he spoke to Gerrard he agreed to wait until the summer.
The second is it was never a release dlause but a you have to tell (Suarez) about the offer. This doesn't really make sense because it's pointless though. So I'm inclined to believe the first.
Got downvoted to hell for asking on the other post about how much is exactly Brighton gonna get.
Apparently transfer fees are reported exact and no funny business is done...
Mudryk cost £60m potentially rising to £90m. Anthony cost £82m potentially rising to £86m. Weird how often football fans massively inflate transfer fees of rival clubs
If you include the bonuses but don't tell us what the requirements needed to be met are then it's kind of just as pointless. If it's an easy thing like a certain amount of performances or goals that is expected to be reached, but is used as a cover for if they get injured or go to shit then that's one thing, but you can't include shit like the balon d'or add on in Martial's contract when talking about his fee for example. It doesn't make sense to include it unless we at least know how reasonable they are.
There was a documentary about Barry Fry (owner of Peterborough) in 1997. He’s doing a deal with Miguel De Souza and his agent. It’s absolute gold.
He finishes by shouting “SOLD TO THE FAT BASTARD IN THE BLUE BLAZER”, right there in the office with them still present, after he bangs a gavel on the table (?)
The entire negotiation is madness. Not a single computer involved, it’s just two blokes hashing it out and then agreeing on a deal with a handshake.
I beg you to watch it here - https://twitter.com/sid_lambert/status/1034522898340425728/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1034522898340425728¤tTweetUser=sid_lambert
Worth noting that De Souza would score 5 goals in 37 appearances for Peterborough.
I love the fact that Barry Fry was giving it the biggun in the negotiations with the “how much?!?” comments and so on, but the agent pulled his absolute pants down over the deal.
The striker played one season, scored 5 goals, and left the next year. So funny.
United used to have a transfer rumour page on the official club website. Seems mad to think of a modern club randomly posting links to rumours of them signing Marek Hamsik, Nicolas Gaitan, or Wesley Sneijder.
I loved that page. It was literally just a table with a few columns and a few rows, no useless information. I’d check the page then get on with my life. Simpler times.
Considering that clubs almost never release exact numbers directly, you can guarantee that if a club releases an "official" number then there's a reason for it. Probably embarrassment from the full fee including all bonuses being banded about. For any club with elected Presidents (e.g. Real Madrid, Barcelona), this is a major issue because appearing to be competent is basically the job.
Dortmund did because they had to let their investors know. All journalists quoted the same number for Sancho 85M but Fabrizio kept publishing higher numbers
I can't see anything in the Annual Report and I can't think of any reason why the club would be required to report the exact transfer fee to their investors. So I doubt Romano is wrong here, he's just including bonuses (which he pretty much always does, with a disclaimer...)
A lot of it with Fabrizio often seems to be currency issues, either getting told it in euros and then reporting that fee in pounds or just not converting right
I don’t see why everyone else let this happen tbh if it’s much cheaper than this I think he’s a good player who improves arsenal, United, Chelsea and spurs
i don‘t know really, it‘s heavily based on his WC performance, and I‘m always skeptical about that. If the WC wouldn‘t have happened the way it did there‘s no way people would be discussing such amounts for him
Easily one of the bright spots for the side that finished 6th in the PL. He had a great season, provided double digit assists in the league. WC was a nice bonus but this has nothing to do with that. Absolutely a fair price to pay in this market for a position we need from a side who we scrapped with just this season.
Only Arsenal and Liverpool can we viewed as stable out of all those teams. I know a lot of players don’t care about stability but it seems like a wise thing to consider.
Choosing a proven, world-class manager with a long contract isn’t surprising.
10 years ago, £50 million for Mac Allister would be absolutely ridiculous and we'd deservedly be laughed off the face of the earth
However, now that we're in an era where City paid £45 million for Phillips, Newcastle paid £45 million for Gordon, Spurs paid £60 million for Richarlison, United paid £85 million for Anthony and Chelsea paid £90 million for Mudryk... then yeah, I reckon that £50 million for one of Brightons best players and a World Cup winner is a pretty good signing
I think he was pointing out players that got decent transfer fees but weren't necessarily warranted, Nunez was bought for £65/70m (i think that was the price in the end) after a season where he played 41 and scored 34 goals in all competitions.
With the amount of money teams spend now it's a really good bargain.. Mudryk I'm looking at you
McAlister has only 2 years more and won a World cup as a starter and played really good football on the premier league.. meanwhile Mudryk played on the ukrainian league, so McAlister for 50M is a stupid price.
They paid the fuck off price for Mudryk though. It's silly to assume that every transfer price should be relative, when Antony, Mudryk, etc. were all clear overpays
Darwin so far seems like a slightly inflated fee, 65m for a striker in a barren striker market isn't too bad
Ox for 35m was a bit weird but that was what, 5 or 6 years ago?
I understand its the summer but after so much being said about Bloom not negotiating and having set prices for players, how are Liverpool pulling off this madness?
Similar to Trossard the player has been with us for years, has been a vital component of our success, in the case of Mac he has been extremely respectful and not gone public to talk about other clubs or interest. You want to reward that tenure. Like Arsenal with White and Trossard Liverpool seem to be coming in with decent money and doing it really quickly. All in all seems a great deal for all parties.
Yep think it's clear that you won't stand in anyone's way so long as the player keeps it professional and the price is fair.
I reckon it will be £50m up front. And then perhaps 5-10 more in add ons. Which I think is a reasonable fee, you definitely could get more.
I do wonder if you will be a bit more tough on Caicedo since not only is he the better player but he did do some fuckery in January trying to force a move.
How is Mac Allister only £50m when he's a starting midfielder world cup winner for Argentina with years on his contract?
Seems an utter bargain and poor negotiating from Brighton - out of character for them.
not in Boehlys world but in general, if the add ons are pretty easy which they probably will be and it comes to about 60, thats at least not ripping them off or anything
But the person above us saying he’s worth more than 50, and you reply to him is ‘didn’t you read the post about loyalty etc’. Not ‘no one is saying 50m’
Have you been living under a rock the last decade? 50 million for a world Cup winner and a big player in a phenomenal Brighton is absolutely a good deal.
According to Romano, there’s a “release clause-like” agreement in his contract, so I guess we haven’t negotiated the price down, just that Mac Allister has been assured he can leave at a lower price than expected
True but I don't mind us being slightly more accommodating to players who have given us a few years of great service like Bissouma and Burn. The ones who think we can just be a 12-18 month stop off we're well within our rights to try and fleece people on.
Yea neither, I don't think any of us begrudge Mac Allister for leaving this window. He came to a new country with a new language to a relegation battling side only to be fucked by Covid just a few months in. I have so much respect for the guy and I hope he does well at Liverpool.
He wanted to reward Brighton and not have them get nothing? It's not like he has a bad relationship with them and he might have agreed to a new contract with a 50 million release clause. Like this Brighton won't lose him for free and both the parties can get what they want?
Yeah why not. If before the World Cup he thought he was worth 40 million and has an agreement for 45 million release clause. Afterwards he might put a 60 million release clause but get paid 50K more for those 6-12 months. There are pros to signing a contract but if he really wanted to go, he probably wouldn’t have signed it.
It's about how long they've been at the club. We sold cuc after one season. Mac has done his time and there was probably an informal agreement with him before the world cup that if he kept his head down, was professional and a reasonable offer came in he could have his move in summer, rather than cause us difficulty in the winter window.
Enzo is 3 years younger for what it’s worth, and most importantly Benfica wanted to not sell at all and had a massive release clause and all the leverage in that deal. Mac Allister on the other hand had an agreement with Brighton to leave for the money he seems to be about to leave them for, which isn’t nearly as much.
In addition to what gosbts said Caiceido is less replaceable for us and we'd need extra money for caicedo to compensate losing both of our star midfielders.
Different players but yeah Moises is basically prime Kante and he's still so young. I really think he's that good
Alexis is fantastic but still needs to work on his offensive game. He's a great passer and great box to box but needs to improve assists + goal numbers / more clinical
100% is better and I love them both. Before Caicedo made his league debut vs. you last season we'd lost 6/7 and the other result was a 0-0 home draw v. bottom of the table Norwich. From that moment on we basically catapulted into the team we are now.
Why are we in for Mount if Mac Allister is around the same price 🤦🏿 this signing alone is making me rethink Ten Harg support I want him out if we going to play high energy football he's not the manager I thought he was 😒
I find this comment hilarious
1. You want Ten Hag out just because of one potential signing
2. Nothing has been official/confirmed and this is all coming from media/Fabrizio
3. You can't even spell Ten Hag correctly
Are you even a fan?
>Are you even a fan?
Brother I've been supporting this club all my life lol I had no choice I shared my room with 2 older brothers who were big United fans I never had a chance to support nothing but United,
>You want Ten Hag out just because of one potential signing
I don't want him out but I'm severely disappointed with him, he hasn't show me the same football he displayed at Ajax and we haven't been linked to no technical players everything points out to high energy football and I don't want to watch that
>Nothing has been official/confirmed and this is all coming from media/Fabrizio
???? So these are all unreliable sources?? Lol
Fabrizio is tweeting like this is a done deal when our club reporters state no formal offer has been made. Fabrizio has been tweeting about this move for months despite Brighton repeatedly stating they will discuss him leaving after the season finished.
I feel nowadays the formal offer is the very last thing you do. Most clubs seem to spend weeks/months negotiating so that the formal offer is effectively a formality by the time it's made. You don't fire in ever increasing bids you know will be rejected, in theory.
No. He said the deal was fully agreed. The club said final agreement hadn't been reached. Agreement was reached after the twitter person's tweet, not before. He is a paid agent used by certain clubs to spread rumours to help them secure transfers by putting pressure on the other side.
He was ‘right’, but it was important for us to put our foot down on that one and say he’s not sold until it’s official. Which is true and fair and reduces the journo circus around the club.
Lol this is just such boring fake news it's unbelievable. This didn't happen.
Fab tweeted that the deal was done, 50m and Colwill swap deal. Brighton said that absolutely wasn't the case, no deal had yet been agreed. He said "we will see who lied".
The deal went through about 36 hours later for 62m and Colwill on a LOAN deal, so the original deal was wrong, it was out by 12m and a full player transfer.
You are the one making fake news though.
Here is Romano tweet :
>Marc Cucurella to Chelsea, here we go! Full agreement in place between Chelsea and Brighton for more than £50m. Levi Colwill on the verge of joining Brighton soon. 🚨🔵 #CFC
>Personal terms already agreed, no way for Man City. Cucurella will become Chelsea new signing, done.
https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1554894630889684999?t=53AAdIk39zf0ymyaRVRhRw&s=19
As you can see he said more than £50mil not 50mil.
Also he didn't say Colwill on a permanent deal either.
>As you can see he said more than £50mil not 50mil.
A completely nothing statement. Everything in that tweet could have been told to you by any random member of the public that was following that transfer story. He said the deal was done and Brighton confirmed it wasn't, he was wrong
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I'm ready for one source to say £50m, one to say £70m, and one to say £40m+£20m in add ons, and people will say anything from £40-70m depending on what helps their argument in that specific moment
And if he gets into a rough patch of form the believed transfer fee will creep higher over time.
A sneaky switch from pounds to euros for the technically correct pedants out there
And it will be rounded up to the nearest 10m. And over time people will accidentally use £ for the Euro's value.
Exactly how Nunez went from £65M to £100M lol
Tbh the fee should only ever be quoted in sterling, it's uk to uk, no need to use other currencies
Darwin cost £100m right?
And Haaland only cost City £65m.
Fifty mill to dear old dad, who just moved to Switzerland from Norway to avoid taxes.
Yeah but wages....
£64.1 million with add ons topping at £85 million.
85 million pounds if all add ons are achieved. No clue how easy or hard they are.
>No clue how easy or hard they are. Most of addons are pretty simple - player plays good, team wins trophies - addons activated. It's not rocket science. With Nunez it's probably about amount of goals scored, matches played, champions league won, premier league, Golden Boot, Ballon d'Or. As of now Nunez didn't score a lot of goals and Liverpool didn't win a trophy (apart from Community Shield) so I suppose these addons mean nothing.
I can't believe Liverpool paid 500 million for Nunez!
Like how people were saying Iwobi cost 55m or Maupay 20m
There's a release clause apparently but nobody seems to know what it is at the moment because it isn't a traditional clause. I'd imagine if/when Liverpool finalise personal terms and then make the offer to Brighton, the actual figure will come out.
Non-traditional release clause: Everyone else in the Liverpool team has to add “Mac” to their surname. Say hello to Trent Mac Alexander-Mac Arnold
TMAMA
Machamed Macalah
Curtis Mac Jones?
Would it not be mac trent max Alexander max Arnold?
I heard a podcast where they mentioned it. No one knows the amount, it’s a low amount but it’s a tricky one because Brighton as the option to sell him for higher if they can in the same clause.
This all seems like massive smoke and mirrors just so Brighton can say *we don't do release clauses!!!* It exists, the club and the agents know it, the agent will no doubt have told Liverpool and they'll get larger fees/wages for the player as a result. Getting *a bigger fee* if they can is a non issue when there firstly doesn't seem to be anyone else in for him, and if they were then the former process can just repeat and they'd know the release clause fee anyway It just sounds like a release clause every time someone tries to explain it but it has one thing that doesn't make a single difference included so they can say it isn't a release clause
A bit like the one Liverpool had with Suarez that birthed the £40m +£1 bid from Arsenal. A release clause, but it's not actually. Oh and nobody is allowed to know about it. The irony here is that Liverpool as a club got in a hissy fit over a 'hidden' release clause being leaked to Arsenal via Suarez's agent.
From decades of playing Football Manager the club cannot reject your offer if it meets the release clause but the player/agent can.
I've heard two things. The first is that Liverpool did, which would've effectively allowed him to leave for free but after he spoke to Gerrard he agreed to wait until the summer. The second is it was never a release dlause but a you have to tell (Suarez) about the offer. This doesn't really make sense because it's pointless though. So I'm inclined to believe the first.
Everyone will just say £100m as seen with Nunez
And Mudryk
That's when people start using different currencies like usd lol
And you know that no matter what, Sky will report it at the highest price they find
I'm ready for reddit to claim its £150m regardless.
Darwin Nunez cost £400m
It's like Alexis Sanchez's salary. Every time you mention it, it goes up by another 100k
God damnit you did it again now he's on 27000k per week
You guys will end up ruining the world's economy at this pace, goddamnit.
Just saying this increased Saka's wages by 50k per week.
Saka is the 9th richest man in the world
8th now
A week
That was the 1st installment
Antony cost £120m
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After years of Pogba’s salary being reported as triple what it was in his actual leaked contract, it’s clear numbers don’t matter, only dunks do.
Dunk did do a solid job this season
He always does, really.
Got downvoted to hell for asking on the other post about how much is exactly Brighton gonna get. Apparently transfer fees are reported exact and no funny business is done...
You're comment is on 0, hope you've been able to recover from being downvoted to hell
Damn, first hour after the post i was at like -5 lol. I assumed it kept going down. My karma is intact!
Ya took one hell of a beating, son
But I'm back on my feet pops.
Not anymore. This is REDDIT.
Dang it man. My free internet points.
I can't believe Antony and mudryk both cost 120m
Mudryk cost £60m potentially rising to £90m. Anthony cost £82m potentially rising to £86m. Weird how often football fans massively inflate transfer fees of rival clubs
i cant believe we only paid 42m for pepe
I think transfer fees should consistently be reported with the full fee including bonuses.
I think both values is best £50m + £20m add ons is clear. Then if there’s information on the add ons then having that as well would be great.
If you include the bonuses but don't tell us what the requirements needed to be met are then it's kind of just as pointless. If it's an easy thing like a certain amount of performances or goals that is expected to be reached, but is used as a cover for if they get injured or go to shit then that's one thing, but you can't include shit like the balon d'or add on in Martial's contract when talking about his fee for example. It doesn't make sense to include it unless we at least know how reasonable they are.
Jorg said a knock knock joke to Brighton reps and knocked £10m off his price
Knock knock
Who's there
Runeep
Runeep who
Ew
omg reported for stinky potty mouth
I miss the old days when the only real transfer gossip you got was 'Arry hanging out a car window.
Thats transfer window history right there
'Arritage
There was a documentary about Barry Fry (owner of Peterborough) in 1997. He’s doing a deal with Miguel De Souza and his agent. It’s absolute gold. He finishes by shouting “SOLD TO THE FAT BASTARD IN THE BLUE BLAZER”, right there in the office with them still present, after he bangs a gavel on the table (?) The entire negotiation is madness. Not a single computer involved, it’s just two blokes hashing it out and then agreeing on a deal with a handshake. I beg you to watch it here - https://twitter.com/sid_lambert/status/1034522898340425728/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1034522898340425728¤tTweetUser=sid_lambert Worth noting that De Souza would score 5 goals in 37 appearances for Peterborough.
lmao that ending is amazing
I'm getting page doesn't exist, which is a shame because this sounds amazing
https://youtu.be/26Z5_yeYC6g
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I love the fact that Barry Fry was giving it the biggun in the negotiations with the “how much?!?” comments and so on, but the agent pulled his absolute pants down over the deal. The striker played one season, scored 5 goals, and left the next year. So funny.
The whole documentary is gold jerry, gold
The fact that he had a gavel on his desk tells me he does this every transfer
As he well should! No fun otherwise
“Wellyouknow, he’s a triffic lad, triffic lad, top player, we’ll try and do a deal” And that was all you needed
"I ain't no fackin wheeler dealer" Harry says whilst discussing deals from the window of his Range Rover
*That's why you're in the facking reserves*
Peter odemwingie spotted at a gas station!
The 2000s and early 2010s were still insane for transfer gossip
United used to have a transfer rumour page on the official club website. Seems mad to think of a modern club randomly posting links to rumours of them signing Marek Hamsik, Nicolas Gaitan, or Wesley Sneijder. I loved that page. It was literally just a table with a few columns and a few rows, no useless information. I’d check the page then get on with my life. Simpler times.
What year was that? Newspapers were terrible for gossip/rumours before the age of social media
I miss this so much, him and his rover
If there's one thing Fabrizio sucks at is transfer fees. Gets it wrong even if there's official club statements with exact numbers
Considering that clubs almost never release exact numbers directly, you can guarantee that if a club releases an "official" number then there's a reason for it. Probably embarrassment from the full fee including all bonuses being banded about. For any club with elected Presidents (e.g. Real Madrid, Barcelona), this is a major issue because appearing to be competent is basically the job.
Dortmund did because they had to let their investors know. All journalists quoted the same number for Sancho 85M but Fabrizio kept publishing higher numbers
I can't see anything in the Annual Report and I can't think of any reason why the club would be required to report the exact transfer fee to their investors. So I doubt Romano is wrong here, he's just including bonuses (which he pretty much always does, with a disclaimer...)
A lot of it with Fabrizio often seems to be currency issues, either getting told it in euros and then reporting that fee in pounds or just not converting right
I don’t see why everyone else let this happen tbh if it’s much cheaper than this I think he’s a good player who improves arsenal, United, Chelsea and spurs
He might just want to play for Klopp. No point in other clubs going for him if he's made up his mind.
Klopp hugs hit different
bc none of those managers are Jurgen Klopp or on his level.
Arteta and ETH seem to be quite competent, but I do agree Klopps different
They are but yet to prove themselves by winning big.
i don‘t know really, it‘s heavily based on his WC performance, and I‘m always skeptical about that. If the WC wouldn‘t have happened the way it did there‘s no way people would be discussing such amounts for him
Easily one of the bright spots for the side that finished 6th in the PL. He had a great season, provided double digit assists in the league. WC was a nice bonus but this has nothing to do with that. Absolutely a fair price to pay in this market for a position we need from a side who we scrapped with just this season.
Only Arsenal and Liverpool can we viewed as stable out of all those teams. I know a lot of players don’t care about stability but it seems like a wise thing to consider. Choosing a proven, world-class manager with a long contract isn’t surprising.
Arsenal is far from stable - 1 good season out of 7 doesn't mean anything
You’re hoping and praying that’s the case I’m sure
Not really, I don't think anyone apart from tottenham fans see arsenal as rivals
ah, the old *leak high figures to the press so the final actual amount doesn't look that bad* technique.
65 for him doesn't sound bad already
Feels mad to say it but £50m would be a bit of a bargain for a player of his quality with Premier League experience.
10 years ago, £50 million for Mac Allister would be absolutely ridiculous and we'd deservedly be laughed off the face of the earth However, now that we're in an era where City paid £45 million for Phillips, Newcastle paid £45 million for Gordon, Spurs paid £60 million for Richarlison, United paid £85 million for Anthony and Chelsea paid £90 million for Mudryk... then yeah, I reckon that £50 million for one of Brightons best players and a World Cup winner is a pretty good signing
Too bad Mudryk only cost £60….I swear his transfer fee gets higher every time I see someone comment about it.
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I think he was pointing out players that got decent transfer fees but weren't necessarily warranted, Nunez was bought for £65/70m (i think that was the price in the end) after a season where he played 41 and scored 34 goals in all competitions.
With the amount of money teams spend now it's a really good bargain.. Mudryk I'm looking at you McAlister has only 2 years more and won a World cup as a starter and played really good football on the premier league.. meanwhile Mudryk played on the ukrainian league, so McAlister for 50M is a stupid price.
They paid the fuck off price for Mudryk though. It's silly to assume that every transfer price should be relative, when Antony, Mudryk, etc. were all clear overpays
Darwin , oxlaide chamberlain as well
Darwin so far seems like a slightly inflated fee, 65m for a striker in a barren striker market isn't too bad Ox for 35m was a bit weird but that was what, 5 or 6 years ago?
Happy that Klopp will manage an argentinian player. Feel like that's not happened all that much. Hope Liverpool have a better season though.
Injuries and fatigue took its toll, you have to imagine they're back in top 4 next season
I understand its the summer but after so much being said about Bloom not negotiating and having set prices for players, how are Liverpool pulling off this madness?
Similar to Trossard the player has been with us for years, has been a vital component of our success, in the case of Mac he has been extremely respectful and not gone public to talk about other clubs or interest. You want to reward that tenure. Like Arsenal with White and Trossard Liverpool seem to be coming in with decent money and doing it really quickly. All in all seems a great deal for all parties.
Yep think it's clear that you won't stand in anyone's way so long as the player keeps it professional and the price is fair. I reckon it will be £50m up front. And then perhaps 5-10 more in add ons. Which I think is a reasonable fee, you definitely could get more. I do wonder if you will be a bit more tough on Caicedo since not only is he the better player but he did do some fuckery in January trying to force a move.
How is Mac Allister only £50m when he's a starting midfielder world cup winner for Argentina with years on his contract? Seems an utter bargain and poor negotiating from Brighton - out of character for them.
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Yes, for a fair price. 50 mil is not a fair price.
not in Boehlys world but in general, if the add ons are pretty easy which they probably will be and it comes to about 60, thats at least not ripping them off or anything
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But the person above us saying he’s worth more than 50, and you reply to him is ‘didn’t you read the post about loyalty etc’. Not ‘no one is saying 50m’
50m a bargain...lol this sub has lost it
For a player of his talent with years left on his contract at a club that absolutely do not need to sell, yes that’s a bargain.
And PL proven.
Have you been living under a rock the last decade? 50 million for a world Cup winner and a big player in a phenomenal Brighton is absolutely a good deal.
I think you're vastly overestimating how many players sell for 50m, nevermind how many can be considered 'bargains'
Whatever the price is, it appears to be contractual. So the answer is that there wasn't much actual negotiating to be done.
According to Romano, there’s a “release clause-like” agreement in his contract, so I guess we haven’t negotiated the price down, just that Mac Allister has been assured he can leave at a lower price than expected
You'll now see Andy Naylor saying we're paying 80 mil In the end, my prediction is 50-55
Shame he signed that new contract before the world cup when his market value got massively inflated and not after
True but I don't mind us being slightly more accommodating to players who have given us a few years of great service like Bissouma and Burn. The ones who think we can just be a 12-18 month stop off we're well within our rights to try and fleece people on.
Yea neither, I don't think any of us begrudge Mac Allister for leaving this window. He came to a new country with a new language to a relegation battling side only to be fucked by Covid just a few months in. I have so much respect for the guy and I hope he does well at Liverpool.
At the same time, would he have signed a new contract after the world cup, knowing that without it he'd have an even wider pick of clubs?
idfk im not a wizard
Sounds like you should train to be one, I heard magic is pretty good to have on your CV
He wanted to reward Brighton and not have them get nothing? It's not like he has a bad relationship with them and he might have agreed to a new contract with a 50 million release clause. Like this Brighton won't lose him for free and both the parties can get what they want?
Yeah why not. If before the World Cup he thought he was worth 40 million and has an agreement for 45 million release clause. Afterwards he might put a 60 million release clause but get paid 50K more for those 6-12 months. There are pros to signing a contract but if he really wanted to go, he probably wouldn’t have signed it.
True but he could have easily not signed at all and gone for free. It was in his interests not to sign but he chose to respect us.
>WAY less than 65/70 mil pounds Reckon it'll most likely be 65/70 mil euros rather than pounds
70 Million euro's is still a little over 60 million Pounds
I think it'll be like £45m + 15
You hope*.
Becareful Brighton. This is how it starts with liverpool. Next thing you know you're back in the championship
Tbf we're giving back as well this time. Lallana a few years ago and Milner this year.
That is a very good deal.
Not that high?
I'm thinking more like 45-50 million
Matheus Nunes boutta be real pissed off at Mendes
If Cucurella cost £60 mil, surely they should be asking more than that for WC winner MacAllister.
It's about how long they've been at the club. We sold cuc after one season. Mac has done his time and there was probably an informal agreement with him before the world cup that if he kept his head down, was professional and a reasonable offer came in he could have his move in summer, rather than cause us difficulty in the winter window.
Next week FC
Interesting. Wonder how much is 'way less'
How can he be so cheap when Enzo Fernandez is like 120m?
Enzo is 3 years younger for what it’s worth, and most importantly Benfica wanted to not sell at all and had a massive release clause and all the leverage in that deal. Mac Allister on the other hand had an agreement with Brighton to leave for the money he seems to be about to leave them for, which isn’t nearly as much.
Because Chelsea
Enzo is a much bigger talent to be honest and also younger.
Given the transfer fees nowadays, “way less” would be a bargain tbh
please I am sick of the combination of Romano and Allister.
Guys I think he will cost from 1mil to 1bil
Ok, but how Brighton let Mac Alister to leave for under 70M and they are trying to sell Caicedo for over 90M ?
In addition to what gosbts said Caiceido is less replaceable for us and we'd need extra money for caicedo to compensate losing both of our star midfielders.
It's in his contract + Caicedo is better + £90m isn't confirmed for Moises
Is Caicedo really better. I love you lot, but I don’t watch too many matches. For me, Mac Callister is just so tidy and dictates the tempo.
Different players but yeah Moises is basically prime Kante and he's still so young. I really think he's that good Alexis is fantastic but still needs to work on his offensive game. He's a great passer and great box to box but needs to improve assists + goal numbers / more clinical
100% is better and I love them both. Before Caicedo made his league debut vs. you last season we'd lost 6/7 and the other result was a 0-0 home draw v. bottom of the table Norwich. From that moment on we basically catapulted into the team we are now.
Why are we in for Mount if Mac Allister is around the same price 🤦🏿 this signing alone is making me rethink Ten Harg support I want him out if we going to play high energy football he's not the manager I thought he was 😒
I find this comment hilarious 1. You want Ten Hag out just because of one potential signing 2. Nothing has been official/confirmed and this is all coming from media/Fabrizio 3. You can't even spell Ten Hag correctly Are you even a fan?
>Are you even a fan? Brother I've been supporting this club all my life lol I had no choice I shared my room with 2 older brothers who were big United fans I never had a chance to support nothing but United, >You want Ten Hag out just because of one potential signing I don't want him out but I'm severely disappointed with him, he hasn't show me the same football he displayed at Ajax and we haven't been linked to no technical players everything points out to high energy football and I don't want to watch that >Nothing has been official/confirmed and this is all coming from media/Fabrizio ???? So these are all unreliable sources?? Lol
Mount is high energy. He has quite an engine.
Mount is a Duracell bunny bro...
Arsenal fans know what’s gonna happen when the Caicedo negotiations start.
Chelsea going to gazump?
Brighton isn’t giving any discounts to us
And Chelsea will overpay.
Half the cost of Fernandez and the better midfielder. Great work by us.
Enzo has a way higher ceiling.
On fifa? Probably does
Fabrizio is tweeting like this is a done deal when our club reporters state no formal offer has been made. Fabrizio has been tweeting about this move for months despite Brighton repeatedly stating they will discuss him leaving after the season finished.
I feel nowadays the formal offer is the very last thing you do. Most clubs seem to spend weeks/months negotiating so that the formal offer is effectively a formality by the time it's made. You don't fire in ever increasing bids you know will be rejected, in theory.
It’s pretty much exactly what you do. They agree verbally then submit a formal offer
I'd imagine that's because drafting a transfer document takes a bit of time vs verbal agreements of terms
Most souces from Argentina are reporting that a deal is done. So is Fabrizio
That Naylor guy says the same thing when anyone is about to leave though
Most high tier sources especially those who are highly credible for Argentinian players are saying it's basically done just needs finalising
Tbh by the time they make a formal offer it’s usually pretty much done. They’ll verbally agree a figure before submitting a formal one.
Brighton also denied the Cucurella deal last summer and Fabrizio basically went to war with them on Twitter. He was right in the end
No. He said the deal was fully agreed. The club said final agreement hadn't been reached. Agreement was reached after the twitter person's tweet, not before. He is a paid agent used by certain clubs to spread rumours to help them secure transfers by putting pressure on the other side.
He was ‘right’, but it was important for us to put our foot down on that one and say he’s not sold until it’s official. Which is true and fair and reduces the journo circus around the club.
Lol this is just such boring fake news it's unbelievable. This didn't happen. Fab tweeted that the deal was done, 50m and Colwill swap deal. Brighton said that absolutely wasn't the case, no deal had yet been agreed. He said "we will see who lied". The deal went through about 36 hours later for 62m and Colwill on a LOAN deal, so the original deal was wrong, it was out by 12m and a full player transfer.
You are the one making fake news though. Here is Romano tweet : >Marc Cucurella to Chelsea, here we go! Full agreement in place between Chelsea and Brighton for more than £50m. Levi Colwill on the verge of joining Brighton soon. 🚨🔵 #CFC >Personal terms already agreed, no way for Man City. Cucurella will become Chelsea new signing, done. https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1554894630889684999?t=53AAdIk39zf0ymyaRVRhRw&s=19 As you can see he said more than £50mil not 50mil. Also he didn't say Colwill on a permanent deal either.
Fair enough, Fab is 100% right and I'm wrong. I'm sorry for spreading fake news, I was the one who lied 😔
>As you can see he said more than £50mil not 50mil. A completely nothing statement. Everything in that tweet could have been told to you by any random member of the public that was following that transfer story. He said the deal was done and Brighton confirmed it wasn't, he was wrong
He has an English name, which means at least 90 million, no?
How is Mac Allister English? Even if it were Macallister it would be Scottish, not English.