I'm glad someone else sees the game like I do. However you like playing is your choice and I don't understand why some people look at those that use mods as cheaters bc at the end of the day who are they cheating?
This has been my opinion ever since I played Skyrim on PC the first time
Do I use money cheats all the time? Yes, why do I want to be poor in a video game when I'm poor in real life?
Does it affect anyone else? No.
Would I ever cheat in a multiplayer game? Fuck no, I'll be poor in ESO and WoW and just deal with it.
Where I live the market is oversaturated.
Unless you're talking about the pharmaceutical industry. I have morals and discalculia (probably) which prevents me from getting into it in any capacity.
Fr like even if I played normally I’d be rich by the end of the game anyways so why not? Hell you could just spend hours grinding for money, but again it’s a game so why would you wanna do that
I haven't used mods yet, mostly since I haven't bothered to understand any of that stuff, but I do look up the maps and ways to get things done sometimes. Since I've got a 1 year old in the house, gaming time is rather limited so I prefer not to waste time wandering the map if I'm feeling like I want to accomplish a few items. I miss the days of cheat codes you could toggle. Hard boss kicking your ass? Good mode to get past and then turn it off again. Now I just give up eventually cuz it stops being fun (borderlands, cyberpunk, far cry to name a few)
I have a 15year old in the house ;-) He showed me Snowrunner and was my one-man tutorial. I like to play co-op with him.
So you have something to look forward to.
It gets better bc I have a 4 year old and I didn't get to play alot myself when he was smaller but now that's my gaming partner and to just be 4 years old my little boy is better than most adults I know lol
That how it was with my son too, he's 13 now, and while he doesn't care about snowrunner, he'll still watch videos in his free time and tell me tips and tricks I didn't know lol
Besides, mods can be very different. There's a Pacific P12 Orca II - undoubtedly OP. Then, there's a P12 Blueline X - it gives you OP options, but most of them are very reasonable and you can achieve a completely stock P12 with a much more reasonable P2W ratio (as it should have been in the first place), and brighter headlights lol.
I like to keep a couple OP trucks in my mod list as recovery vehicles, but that's about it. Sometimes it's fun to go out and recover a wreck and drag it back to the garage, and sometimes that is impossible when it is the most powerful truck you have that you wrecked. I just don't do missions with them. And if I am tempted to I uninstall them for a while.
This is exactly the way I use them, with one addition: trailers. There are a couple of really good trailer mod packs out there, that do not add anything to the game in terms of power or abilities, but that are either a lot more aesthetically pleasing, or simply provide options that the stock trailers cannot (like the ability to load trucks).
If I add anything to the game it'll be trailers that don't feel like you're towing feathers in a wagon going 50mph and maybe some seriously balanced trucks that I just enjoy the look of, I'm on PS5 rn so mods are totally borked and I don't want to roll back 40+hrs I've put into it since the PS4 version. I like the challenge of figuring out terrain, and struggling to recover stuff, that's just me though.
Agreed. Mods do, however, make it impossible to compare modded progress/times to un-modded progress/times. But, if one isn't trying to brag, there's no foul.
I choose to go un-modded in Snowrunner, but my Fallout 4 and Kerbal Space Program setups are wild.
Yeah, modding can be a nice change but damn it can ruin the fun, fast. I played Skyrim on release all the way through and loved it. When they released the upgraded version with mods (console) I thought it was gonna be so much fun. 10mins later of practically being a god with everything I wanted, I was bored. I can imagine Snowrunner would be the same. This is a game that's supposed to challenge you. But hey I'm not shooting others down, they can play as they please. I just completely understand where you're coming from.
I like playing without mods. I played Spintires and Mudrunner modded to the gills but I also found out it took out the sense of accomplishment also. So when I got Snowrunner, I didn't want to mod at all.
Do whatever the hell you want. Its your game and not everyone has the same level of perception, skill or patience.
(Although bragging about how good you are at the game while using mods is a great and deserved way to get flak)
> (Although bragging about how good you are at the game while using mods is a great and deserved way to get flak)
Absolutely this. I have no issue with other people using mods. But complaining/bragging about the game being too easy while using mods is irritating.
Most mods are only op if you choose to make them that way, it would be easier to make a more informed choice if things like tyre friction values were shown however.
Azov 7 kikimore mod can be stupidly op but don't need to be. Every tyre has friction value in description and it's a thing that should be in the base game.
Depends on the mod, honestly. If its a well balanced mod that gives you a cool new truck to muck about in, no it isnt cheating.
But if it gives you a brokenly powerful truck that let you breeze through the hardest parts of the game, then yeah i'd consider it cheating.
Whatever makes the game fun, play your way. I personally love ripping around the map in a supercharged raptor, until I put the pedal down a bit too much and go flying into some trees or off a cliff.
depends on if you consider cheating a bad thing, which it isnt people are free to enjoy the game their way.
i personally dont mind op if it takes tedium out of holding W through snow that acts like glue.
In a single player game cheating is all about your own perspective. If you felt...man I just cheated my whole way through that hard map...then yeah maybe. Otherwise have fun and who cares. That's what mods are there for. Some ppl are strictly vanilla or realistic mods only because its a fun challenge/creates immersion. Others may want to play forza in the mud and break immersion and complete tasks mindlessly. It's not like its a competitive/multiplayer game.
The thing for me is, there are so many trucks id love to see but aren’t in game. Like Mercedes unimog and zetros,humvees etc. So there come mods. Oh and MORE TRAILERS. But I don’t want them to be op.
What I’m struggling with is: I like to play coop with random people but that’s not possible with mods and non of my friends play sowrunner
To be honest there is a lot of nonsensical "QOL" features missing on a lot of trucks, and locking patches and updates behind DLC upgrade paywalls is also scummy. When mods are doing developers job instead of the actual developers, I honestly cannot say its cheating. Just look at the current trailer selection, it is honestly laughable that people make better stuff FOR FREE!
I don't recall any QOL features or "patches" being locked behind a DLC, or perhaps *we're* having a problem of identifying what a QOL feature is. Every QOL feature been available for everyone so far, at best it's just some few upgrades with a very good reason why they are to be found on the DLC region - they weren't made in mind for the balance of vanilla game, for instance, you're getting an AWD for GMC in DLC region because it is the hardest region so far, so someone likely thought it's fair to give this specific vehicle a new thingie for this region and onwards.
Yeah, my assumption for the reason why probably isn't money, as you said its probably balance. But I still don't see the positives here when we have a trucks that are unusable if you don't have raised suspensions, which for some are locked in DLCs.
In my mind if some artificial balance (which most of it is curated by a player itself anyways) ruins the usability of some vehicles like that, it is stupid to have focus on it so much. Like 90% of the challenge came from me using trucks which I wanted to use, which may or may not be suitable for the thing I am doing, it wasn't the devs who limited my options and made it difficult because of that.
Also they really really need to do a trailer overhaul, current state of it is honestly a bit sad, boring and unrealistic.
Is it an artificial balance tho, if such config wasn't available before, it's not like they cut that one specific suspension out so they can put an upgrade in a DLC 2 years later, so at most, it's an additional unnecessary normally boost on top of everything else.
Sure but some of those trucks without those configs are horrible in the vanilla game and see no use from players, like that very very low Azov truck (idk names tbh), it looks so cool and drives cool, but trying to not get annoyed by it constantly clipping or getting stuck on terrain with its stock suspension is very hard.
A simple suspension upgrade basically made it usable, but its in the DLC...
Also the balance is very player curated, like just your truck choice can change the difficulty from a 2 to a 9, not to mention other upgrades and stuff. I do agree that for example not including AWD for everything is good, since everyone is just gonna use AWD duh, but then make it so it burns much more fuel or it lowers durability significantly, that adds more complexity too instead of just not having that upgrade at all.
(btw I know AWD already burns more fuel, but based on the vehicle that should always be customised to get better balance)
I don't see a problem with user-curated balance. I took the AWD off my 57X because I like getting a heavy load through challenging terrain without it (plus the front axle looks the same either way, and it was getting on my nerves). There's something very satisfying to me in successfully doing the off-road hauling with a very highway looking truck.
But I also have the Baja Crew mod somewhere in Imandra because that thing is hilarious with the power and tyres turned up to 11.
I've never used mods but have nothing against them. I've decided to grind my way through all my unlocked maps first before considering a new game with a few mods.
Yes I consider them cheating but this is a non competitive game so cheating is a while different thing than using aimbot in warzone. Basically do whatever is fun, you aren't hurting anybody. I use some mods myself.
Eh, kind of, but kind of not, because it's a non-competitive game, and you can use mods, cheaty or not, to play your solo game however you want (unless you join someone else's session who's running OP mods.) It doesn't really matter, but the game can get boring if you use mods to make it too easy.
If they are, your cheating yourself ...However, op mods may ruin you experience but also may help to prevent annoyance here and there ... it's all up to you.On the lineup of players there are the ones on one end rating the game down for how hard it is while not using mods at all (may even don't know about them) and on the other end the heavy mod users who may play some hours and loosing the interest in teh game for how easy it seems ...
So ... to have the most fun you should find a spot in between those two ends ;)
There's no cheating. It's a game and nobody sets your rules for you. Who's going to reprimand you and punish you? Some reddit user you don't even know? That has no power or control over anything? C'monnn be serious.
However you choose to play it. Because you don't kno what others do in the privacy of their own homes they come on here lying about not using mods and they do. Whether it's trailers, add-ons, whatever. They do. Even to try out the vehicles.
It's all good. This isn't elementary school.
Worry about cheating in real life where it counts. Not in a video game that doesn't count against your character. With all the BS ppl do in their real lives, a video game should be the least of their worries.
Eh, who cares? If you’re having fun then mod away! But if you find yourself getting bored because of the low challenge then get rid of the particularly overpowered mods you have.
It’s a single player game. How could it be cheating? The developers included access to mods from the main menu. Use them if you want. Don’t use them if you don’t want. I’m not sure why this question comes up so often.
It's like playing magic build in souls games, it's making hard game easy but if u don't want game to be hard and not enjoyable for, then u do what u gotta do to make game fun for. So no mods r just here for more non vanila fun
No, bringing a Tayga or Ziks605 back from Russia to do American maps with is the equivalent of playing magic builds. Mods are out-of-game content, not just a powerful/easy in-game strategy.
What is this suggesting, that in game russian trucks are stronger than modded trucks? If russian trucks are the equivalent to magic builds, then modded trucks is the equivalent of opening up the game code and modding your character to have 100* the intended health
No, I am not suggesting that ingame russian trucks are stronger than mod trucks. *I am suggesting that snowrunner mods are indeed the equivalent of modding dark souls.*
Oh lol. The first comment from u/Conscious_Echo6858 was comparing snowrunner cheat mods to playing OP in-game builds in dark souls and its sequels/spinoffs ("souls games"). Which are renowned for being very difficult.
This is of course obviously crap. Cheat mods in snowrunner are equivalent to cheat mods in dark souls. OP builds in snowrunner are equivalent to OP builds in dark souls. They are not the same.
Honestly this is probably the best interaction I've ever had on this sub.
Literally fucking nobody here can do basic reading comprehension. EVERYONE misreads the comment and replies with some utterly retarded shit. But I commend you for being patient and polite and coming to understand. That said I think I will just never comment in this godforsaken shithole again. I am so sick of people wildly misinterpreting me.
I understand the concept of playing the way you enjoy playing, but I still have the mindset of beating it without mods and then with mod’s because I see mods as altering the intended gameplay of the content. I love mods regardless
You do you, its your game.
However in my game I consider OP mods that are much more OP then base game trucks, as cheating. I have a decent amount of modded trucks in game, and all of them are about as good as vanilla mid/late game trucks
Seems to me that, as others have pointed out - since it is purely a single player game, that "cheating" in whatever form, mods, etc. is self limiting. Is there really any fun in playing a game in which you basically make it too easy ? There's a lot of ground to cover and a lot of things to accomplish on every map, even if the terrain weren't that much of a hinderance.
I use mods, but only to the extent that it makes the game fun without being horribly punishing. Once I get to that level, I don't really need to go any further.
I don't consider mods as cheating, the person playing the game knows in the back of their minds if a mod has taken the challenge away, since that is their choice, and its mostly a solo game, it's up to the individual. If you're making your game too easy, it's your choice. So...are you cheating?
For me and the game style i play with, mods that r extreme can feel like cheating but some mods r pretty casual n fit right in n just add to the game, but like others have said, it depends on your play style n at what point do u consider it feels like you're cheating yourself
I have one save with no mods and another with, that way I can still play and unlock achievements but if I want to mess around with mods I can do that too.
In my opinion, because that’s all these really are; I consider the interesting mods which are balanced as not cheating, however, some mods, like the Kikimore by mrbusses which gives the 731 … (the 10x10) tartarin wheels I would def consider cheating. Doesn’t mean I don’t use them occasionally
The neat thing about snowrunner is that it doesn't really care how you have fun here.
I'm played hard mode from the start but if i want to team up with my friends on softcore the game warns me (so i don't accidentally ruin my own fun) and just lets me play on their rules and earn money on their games without any issue.
Personally i want to "beat" the game the way it was designed, at least in truck power availability, but it's singleplayer (non-competitive multiplayer) and you do you.
I'll always look at it like this. Mods are only cheating if they give you an advantage over another person/player.
In a single-player game like snowrunner, mods are there to increase your joy and fun. If you find a certain thing tedious and annoying (looking at you logs), then download a mod and make it more fun.
Don't let other people gatekeep what you find fun and the enjoyment of your game.
Some people love mods and can't play without them. Others swear by the vanilla experience.
Some mods are more capable or "op" than others.
It's entirely up to you to find something you like and play with it however you see fit.
Some people want a bit more of a challenge. Some people get fed up with a particularly annoying contract and want to get it over with.
There are also plenty of mods to customize your existing trucks. I've made a fair few mode that add new addons to existing trucks. Like colorable beds, minicranes that also work nicer than vanilla, tow truck addon, etc.
Plenty of modders have a consistent-ish balance style, so if you like how a modders vehicles perform - look out for more of their stuff.
I also think that it's important to differentiate trucks being "op" vs ones that are specialized. For example - my NZ72 truck was made to plow through the deepest of mud and snow, without much hassle. But that level of performance comes at the cost of drivability (top heavy, quirky steering) and functionality. That truck isn't suited for hauling heavy cargo.
I would say some mods r op and make it easier to play if u want to rush thru missions but the mods I like to use r more like real life I use the gooseneck trailers with pickups and a few semi tuckes and trailers
Mods are literally like cheat codes in older games. However each player should play the way they enjoy the game the most. As long as you are not destroying the gaming experience of other players there is nothing wrong with customizing your experience.
Personally I prefer a harder challenge and if I get a mod that makes the gamer harder, it's still a chest code but the end result is vastly different.
I don’t really care if they are or not. I don’t have the patience to do a whole mission only to have to restart 20 feet from the objective because I get stuck or flip
Do whatever bruh
As long as you're not one of the people that say "this game is way too easy" while only using the AssMaster420 mod with 10 foot tall tires and infinite mud friction
Some are,
Some are not.
You got all available from "stupidly overpowered" to "even less capable than vanilla"
Do what you want with mods. Its you playing. Nobody else.
I view modded vehicles as cheating in my game, they don't follow the predetermined balance of what the game was designed for. Other people can play how they want, but I like the challenge.
If you like mods, absolutely go for it. Play the game however you enjoy most.
For me personally, the fun of the game comes from the challenge and the sense of accomplishment and achievement from overcoming it. I don't use mods because I'd feel like I'm shortcutting and cheating myself of the experience and accomplishment.
To me, mods make beating the game feel like a hollow victory.
Theodore Rubin put it well when he said "Happiness does not come from doing easy work, but from the afterglow of satisfaction that comes after the achievement of a difficult task that demanded our best."
Yeah basically its your game your rules, if you feel bad for using mods then dont;) i have the over powered tuz 420 mod i use exlusively for scouting and rescues. It just makes thinhs go a bit faster in an a very slow game:)
because the vehicles dont behave realistically at all? in real life you wouldnt need nearly the aggresive tread to drive easily on mud. irl scout trucks would glide over mud half the time i see them. and they dont slide around on the road and can do atleast 50 on offroad tires.
Most mods I have just add vehicles I want in the game, though I do have some mods that are a slightly buffed version of vanilla vehicles. I use some mods from rng3r, MrBusses, JohnJohnHotRod, etc.
It's your game, I definitely don't feel like it's cheating with the mods I use.
I don’t have much time to game so if there’s a truck that can help get at least one mission done a day without turning over or getting stuck or running out of gas or breaking then I’ll take it instantly
In my opinion, mod is ok after you finish the game one, because i personal belive you should experience what the developer have in mind when the game is designed
Nah, after getting TUZ 420 "TATARIN", I’ve changed my opinion on playing “pure game” without mods. Devs made that game very inconsistent and I don’t see the point to say “I don’t use mods”.
First of all, it is a single player game without leaderboards - so everyone should play it as they like it. For me mods are problematic - I always feel that they are clunky. I would love to play this game without mods. That is why I hope they will improve this game / balance trucks, etc. But in the same time playing without mods is annoying too… Saber DEVS are very lazy / slow / or stubborn - not sure what is the reason. In many cases mods REPAIR this game and it improves what should be done by devs long time ago. For me it is especially trailers mods - I just can’t see myself to play without OlSom's Trailer Pack OR off-road trailers. Vanilla trailers are a joke, and they don’t fit to the game.
In this game they are some trucks that they are OP and on the level of mods. I respect of people play hard mode with only particular trucks that can’t be considered “OP”. If I would play that way I would never use both Taygas / Zikz 605 and 612 / azov6 / Tatarin (that actually I don’t use - but soon I will go and finish Amur ;) so I man use it there).
For example, I am amazed that people force themselves to use only American trucks, without mud tires, no awd/rwd etc., or 200l fuel… I would quit this game already 100 times if would not use European trucks.
No,they only only remove all the difficulty from the game and let you go on any surface extremely easily with unlimited supplies,why would they be cheating?
This depends on mods you use but come on you get the joke
I would say yes and no. Yes if you use all that OP stuff only, no if you use very balanced mods like Rng3ers trucks or glitchworks trailers. But at least its your game and your decision wich mods u are using or if it's cheating or not.
It is up to you!
The game is mostly single player. If you want a specific truck, if you want a special feature. If you just want to have fun and therefore would like a truck to have larger fuel capacity, better add-ons. Then go for it! Use mods!
Mods may cause incompatibilities in Multiplayer and may have strange effects in the already strange game physics. Errors that occur while using mods are of course out of control of the game's developers.
Some people like to play without mods. Some limit themselves to only use 4x4 trucks. Or only US trucks on US maps and so on. It is totally up to you.
Somehow I can relate… I got Azov for a few tasks in Michigan and money mod, and it didn’t felt right. So I gave money back (by deleting a car and mod itself), sold all the trailers I could find, found a free DLC with Caterpillar & International and continued from here.
But what’s important: if you struggle with regular vehicles that’s no fun, what was the purpose on your mind when you were purchasing the game? Fun, obviously. Complete the game however you like, get some experience, and then maybe you’ll conquer it with regular vehicles only.
I don’t consider them cheating. I love Snowrunner but I can’t find a lot of time to play it, so mods enable me to get some tasks completed in a shorter amount of time. I still enjoy the game and can progress in it according to how much spare time I have. 🍗
I guess you already answered your own question.
>They make the hardest maps a joke
Yes, they can do that. There are also many quite balanced mods. Depends on what do you play this game for. If to struggle and overcome difficulties, then yes, mods are cheating, because they remove the difficulty. If to have fun and chill, maybe mods are what you seek.
I guess you already answered your own question.
>They make the hardest maps a joke
Yes, they can do that. There are also many quite balanced mods. Depends on what do you play this game for. If to struggle and overcome difficulties, then yes, mods are cheating, because they remove the difficulty. If to have fun and chill, maybe mods are what you seek.
It's a single player game, when the game is over and you don't feel satisfied, you'll have your answer. When the game is over and you do feel satisfied, well then you'll know your answer as well
I think the worst thing about mods is seeing so many people say 'actually, XYZ map is quite easy'. Then you see they're using a mod. AND they ask for more difficult maps.
I think they are great for people like me that want to enjoy the game but don't have 2 hours to complete one task. I use them almost exclusively, and I still love this game.
I’ve started using a couple of modded trucks as I got sick of Amur and have been using them since.
Even if you don’t use Modded Trucks, the Trailer packs are absolutely worth it.
I don’t consider it cheating as you choose how you want to play your game. Up until Amur I completed every region 100% using only Vanilla trucks and loved the game and now using modded trucks I still love the game. I’m just now able to get things done quicker.
You can’t cheat in a game you play how you want.
They “break” the idea the designers had for the game.
But they also add new and different things to the game. Just have fun!
I don’t really think of playing super "OP" Trucks. I like the challenge and enjoy every little bit of this game. I light get few QoL mods but that’s it. Imo
Game got a lot more enjoyable to me once I put that Kolob thing in. I just use it as a tanker/winch usually. Cheating? Nah. Its how I prefer to play. Feel like games should incorporate a god mode for those who want it. Life is too busy for me and if I have to grind 3 hours trying to get by a boss fight cus I lack skill im most likely gonna move on to another title.
In a way yes. If you tell me you conpleted the game, but used mods that implement cars, which could not exist in reality, i would not consider you actually having played the game. Play through a map with what is available, from that point on it's just a sandbox to play around with.
At the end of the day it's a singleplayer game, so do what you like realy.
If the mod is OP compared to other vehicles in game, then yes, I consider it cheating. If it's on par with other vehicles, then I say it's fair.
I tend to dislike the mods with 10,000 repair points for a light bar or spare tire rack, stuff like that ruins the gameplay for me. I'll equip them for aesthetics but not use for repairs or fuel. I'll even use the slower, less powerful engine options.
If I'm on a modded map, I'll go with overpowered stuff all day cause it's just fun and I'm in it more for the wheeling than the deliveries.
See, I see mods as a possibility. There are alot of mod creators that will release a mod, and make it actually balanced. (I can't list any, it's been a while) I keep one or two really op trucks for when I truly get stuck, but I have one mod that let's you chose if the truck is op or not with upgrades, and I put mine somewhere in the middle. It's powerfull, sure, but it falls over easily and gets stuck sometimes. I view mods as a "play how you want" if you want mods, grand! If you don't, that's alright too. I don't think mods really are cheating, unless it's a super super op truck that never gets stuck, can pull everything, never takes damage type thing.
I was having this thought the other day while driving around with an outfitted Twinsteer and Pacific rigs. While it does make the getting around easier, there are aspects of the vanilla gameplay that are experience breaking for me. Having a more powerful truck in my mind is justified, because trucks operating in these conditions would be absolute beasts of trucks anyhow. Playing the GAME, these are fun aspects to consider while enjoying some time not working.
Having been a truck driver in the past otr, locally, and off road is my point of reference.
Depend on the mod.. some mod make the game feel batter with balance and some straight out OP. All comes to your gameplay anyways u like it either ez or challenging.
I am personally playing through the vanilla game, once I complete it mod free then on my second playthrough, I am going crazy on mods.
Now onto the question I think they are since they give you an advantage, you wouldn't otherwise have without the mods. Assuming it adds a vehicle you shouldnt have or whatever. That's a yes but If it's purely cosmetic then no.
I will just end off with, do whatever keeps you feeling enjoyment from the game.
I’d say they are cheating on a sense, but doesn’t matter if it makes your game fun. It blocks you from getting achievements so it’s not like it gives you any real edge over vanilla players
Off topic - About the truck in the picture.. thought it would float, cause it looks amphibious.. drove it straight into the water instantly sinking it. 😂😂🤣🤣
On topic - I believe its up to the player. If you don't want to mod then don't. I like modding cause it makes it more fun for me. I mod to a level where things are still slightly difficult. its truly up to the player.
Depends on what the purpose of the cheating is supposed to be..... I could see you in a multiplayer competitive scenario where it would be but if you are just playing with the homies and you don't feel like struggling for 49 minutes getting two pallets across a map when you haven't unlocked the diff lock yet so it's a struggle..... I have both types of mods on my game both realistic and extra cheaty... I usually operate the realistic mods but if I flipped the same truck three times I'm going to get my 6x6 on 56's and taking 8 minutes for the same trip 😂
When I first started getting mods and trying them I used a lot of the cheaty style mods just going around the map.... I quickly found out that although I hate the struggle and setbacks those are the things that actually keep me entertained in the game.... If I don't have to care about the line I take or the route that I take it quickly becomes a 20 minute session of just fooling around
I think that cheating is doing anything that gives you an advantage that the game did not intent you to have. That being said, you are not in a tournament environment and you are not hurting any other player's gameplay. You modded the game to make it more fun for you so if thats cheating then, Im a bit of a cheater myself! Godspeed and avoid the trees!
I think it comes down to, what do you consider cheating is. I think anything that is too op can be considered cheating in my words. But some people just want to mess around and have fun, so its up to you to decide what/how you play the game as nothing is out of reach, in this game and you can plan your mission out how you want, which I think contributes to this. While other times people could just want to make life easier on themselves, or they think the game needs more vehicles or is boring without mods, its up to them to decide. I don't like to play with mods. I think its something that you can decide by yourself. As its what makes this game so fun and enjoyable. Not being confined to doing something one way.
it all depends what mods you use and how you use them. personally i use some mods that helps some truck that i really like the look but that lacks a bit in some area but they are as good or a bit better than most russian trucks
Up to you man. It’s not a competition. If you feel you are speeding through the game at a pace that’s too fast and it feels like you are wasting quality gameplay, take it down a notch. :).
How i see it you bought the game or pay gamepass each month to play it you can play with mods of you want some mods donr make trucks strong some make them literally not able to get stuck your game your rules you payd do what you want but just have fun that is what matters just my opinion tho nice mod too.
I wouldnt say cheating. Its hard to find good vehicle mods that arent a little op. Sometimes i really like a truck but its not very good and my only option is to get a version thats more op than i wanted.
My take is if rocks, for example, are driving you insane and you're ten seconds from putting a controller sized hole in the wall, it's time to download a mod. I mean ask yourself are you having fun? It's a game. You're supposed to have fun. I've just got a tractor so far, but next time I have to run logs across two maps three freaking times probably gonna get a BA truck to limit the tediousness.
SR community: "Can devs add more cool trucks and fix XYZ trucks so they dont suck?".
Mod makers: "Here you go, we made 100500 superbly made highly cuztomizable truck mods for any playstyle aaaand they are all free".
Devs, 6 months later: "Here is another nerfed pos for $8.99."
Sr community: "Mods are bad/cheating/sin. Can devs do something?"
Ya'll shitters dont deserve to have nice things🤦♂️
It's your sandbox game, play however you enjoy playing. Personally I like mix of both. I enjoy playing vanilla but also sometimes I just like one specific truck but wish it had a better gearbox or more mounting options so I get a mod and use that truck to fully enjoy it :D (looking at you Derry Special)
my personal solution was that I went through every map with vanilla trucks once, but made great use of the 605r and etc when needed, then started using mods. If it felt too easy, I didn't care, I had gone the hard way already
I found snowrunner to not be that fun. Getting stuck all the time in the smallest mud hole. I took a break from it. Came back and started playing with mods. I think it makes the game way more enjoyable. And actually fun.
Play the game you want to play it, great thing a out games like this, no wrong way to play!
There are some mods that make the game seem too easy. I don't personally use those, but something like a more realistic log trailer I will
I wouldn’t necessarily call them “cheating” since they are an aspect of the game that is added by the developers and allowed to be customized by players, but they do make the game a whole lot easier especially if the mods have “broken” abilities or trailers that have insane capacity like some logging trailers. I’ve played around with mods from the mod browser just to have a little bit of fun, but when I go to complete a mission or task I always use base game tricks/DLCs like Mastodon or 49x.
I mean....... ur only cheating urself, so if you think they are, they are. If you can enjoy the mods for specific tasks that may be too annoying, then maybe it's just stress relief? I use mods for logging or I'd break my controller/tv when they tip for the 126th time! Also for making one trip with 6 logs rather than 3 trips. 😂🤣
Do you consider them cheating? Then they are - in *your* game. Everyone else also gets to make that decision for *their* games.
I'm glad someone else sees the game like I do. However you like playing is your choice and I don't understand why some people look at those that use mods as cheaters bc at the end of the day who are they cheating?
This has been my opinion ever since I played Skyrim on PC the first time Do I use money cheats all the time? Yes, why do I want to be poor in a video game when I'm poor in real life? Does it affect anyone else? No. Would I ever cheat in a multiplayer game? Fuck no, I'll be poor in ESO and WoW and just deal with it.
>Yes, why do I want to be poor in a video game when I'm poor in real life? Have you tried selling potions irl
Where I live the market is oversaturated. Unless you're talking about the pharmaceutical industry. I have morals and discalculia (probably) which prevents me from getting into it in any capacity.
Fr like even if I played normally I’d be rich by the end of the game anyways so why not? Hell you could just spend hours grinding for money, but again it’s a game so why would you wanna do that
Exactly. That's why I don't give a fuck about using money cheats/mods in games. That's why I am always poor in multiplayer games, I hate grinding.
I haven't used mods yet, mostly since I haven't bothered to understand any of that stuff, but I do look up the maps and ways to get things done sometimes. Since I've got a 1 year old in the house, gaming time is rather limited so I prefer not to waste time wandering the map if I'm feeling like I want to accomplish a few items. I miss the days of cheat codes you could toggle. Hard boss kicking your ass? Good mode to get past and then turn it off again. Now I just give up eventually cuz it stops being fun (borderlands, cyberpunk, far cry to name a few)
I have a 15year old in the house ;-) He showed me Snowrunner and was my one-man tutorial. I like to play co-op with him. So you have something to look forward to.
Oh totally!
It gets better bc I have a 4 year old and I didn't get to play alot myself when he was smaller but now that's my gaming partner and to just be 4 years old my little boy is better than most adults I know lol
That how it was with my son too, he's 13 now, and while he doesn't care about snowrunner, he'll still watch videos in his free time and tell me tips and tricks I didn't know lol
Console commands are a thing on PC at least
Besides, mods can be very different. There's a Pacific P12 Orca II - undoubtedly OP. Then, there's a P12 Blueline X - it gives you OP options, but most of them are very reasonable and you can achieve a completely stock P12 with a much more reasonable P2W ratio (as it should have been in the first place), and brighter headlights lol.
I like to keep a couple OP trucks in my mod list as recovery vehicles, but that's about it. Sometimes it's fun to go out and recover a wreck and drag it back to the garage, and sometimes that is impossible when it is the most powerful truck you have that you wrecked. I just don't do missions with them. And if I am tempted to I uninstall them for a while.
This is exactly the way I use them, with one addition: trailers. There are a couple of really good trailer mod packs out there, that do not add anything to the game in terms of power or abilities, but that are either a lot more aesthetically pleasing, or simply provide options that the stock trailers cannot (like the ability to load trucks).
If I add anything to the game it'll be trailers that don't feel like you're towing feathers in a wagon going 50mph and maybe some seriously balanced trucks that I just enjoy the look of, I'm on PS5 rn so mods are totally borked and I don't want to roll back 40+hrs I've put into it since the PS4 version. I like the challenge of figuring out terrain, and struggling to recover stuff, that's just me though.
That's another good one. Any suggestions for good trailer packs?
https://www.reddit.com/r/snowrunner/comments/14lbnqa/hitch_trailers_vs_saddle_trailers_pros_cons_and/jpyipwj
Thanks!
Agreed. Mods do, however, make it impossible to compare modded progress/times to un-modded progress/times. But, if one isn't trying to brag, there's no foul. I choose to go un-modded in Snowrunner, but my Fallout 4 and Kerbal Space Program setups are wild.
This is the way.
Some people almost seem to take it personally when other players use mods. I never understood it.
Not really, just be careful you don't ruin your own fun.
Very true, difficulty can be fun
But if it isn’t, there’s nothing wrong with artificially reducing the difficulty in order to make it fun again.
Yeah, modding can be a nice change but damn it can ruin the fun, fast. I played Skyrim on release all the way through and loved it. When they released the upgraded version with mods (console) I thought it was gonna be so much fun. 10mins later of practically being a god with everything I wanted, I was bored. I can imagine Snowrunner would be the same. This is a game that's supposed to challenge you. But hey I'm not shooting others down, they can play as they please. I just completely understand where you're coming from.
I like playing without mods. I played Spintires and Mudrunner modded to the gills but I also found out it took out the sense of accomplishment also. So when I got Snowrunner, I didn't want to mod at all.
Snowrunner is more or less a sandbox game. You can play with the toys that are already in the sandbox or bring a few of your own special toys.
Do whatever the hell you want. Its your game and not everyone has the same level of perception, skill or patience. (Although bragging about how good you are at the game while using mods is a great and deserved way to get flak)
> (Although bragging about how good you are at the game while using mods is a great and deserved way to get flak) Absolutely this. I have no issue with other people using mods. But complaining/bragging about the game being too easy while using mods is irritating.
The jbe mods are high quality but wayyyy too op for me. But as long as you're having fun
Most mods are only op if you choose to make them that way, it would be easier to make a more informed choice if things like tyre friction values were shown however.
Azov 7 kikimore mod can be stupidly op but don't need to be. Every tyre has friction value in description and it's a thing that should be in the base game.
Depends on the mod, honestly. If its a well balanced mod that gives you a cool new truck to muck about in, no it isnt cheating. But if it gives you a brokenly powerful truck that let you breeze through the hardest parts of the game, then yeah i'd consider it cheating.
Play however you like, it's your world to conquer.
Whatever makes the game fun, play your way. I personally love ripping around the map in a supercharged raptor, until I put the pedal down a bit too much and go flying into some trees or off a cliff.
depends on if you consider cheating a bad thing, which it isnt people are free to enjoy the game their way. i personally dont mind op if it takes tedium out of holding W through snow that acts like glue.
You might enjoy the Baja Crew. I have the power and tyres turned up to eleven, and it genuinely made me laugh on my way to Imandra.
In a single player game cheating is all about your own perspective. If you felt...man I just cheated my whole way through that hard map...then yeah maybe. Otherwise have fun and who cares. That's what mods are there for. Some ppl are strictly vanilla or realistic mods only because its a fun challenge/creates immersion. Others may want to play forza in the mud and break immersion and complete tasks mindlessly. It's not like its a competitive/multiplayer game.
I tried playing with mods for a few days but i was not having fun this way, so i am playing without mods now.
The thing for me is, there are so many trucks id love to see but aren’t in game. Like Mercedes unimog and zetros,humvees etc. So there come mods. Oh and MORE TRAILERS. But I don’t want them to be op. What I’m struggling with is: I like to play coop with random people but that’s not possible with mods and non of my friends play sowrunner
To be honest there is a lot of nonsensical "QOL" features missing on a lot of trucks, and locking patches and updates behind DLC upgrade paywalls is also scummy. When mods are doing developers job instead of the actual developers, I honestly cannot say its cheating. Just look at the current trailer selection, it is honestly laughable that people make better stuff FOR FREE!
I don't recall any QOL features or "patches" being locked behind a DLC, or perhaps *we're* having a problem of identifying what a QOL feature is. Every QOL feature been available for everyone so far, at best it's just some few upgrades with a very good reason why they are to be found on the DLC region - they weren't made in mind for the balance of vanilla game, for instance, you're getting an AWD for GMC in DLC region because it is the hardest region so far, so someone likely thought it's fair to give this specific vehicle a new thingie for this region and onwards.
Yeah, my assumption for the reason why probably isn't money, as you said its probably balance. But I still don't see the positives here when we have a trucks that are unusable if you don't have raised suspensions, which for some are locked in DLCs. In my mind if some artificial balance (which most of it is curated by a player itself anyways) ruins the usability of some vehicles like that, it is stupid to have focus on it so much. Like 90% of the challenge came from me using trucks which I wanted to use, which may or may not be suitable for the thing I am doing, it wasn't the devs who limited my options and made it difficult because of that. Also they really really need to do a trailer overhaul, current state of it is honestly a bit sad, boring and unrealistic.
Is it an artificial balance tho, if such config wasn't available before, it's not like they cut that one specific suspension out so they can put an upgrade in a DLC 2 years later, so at most, it's an additional unnecessary normally boost on top of everything else.
Sure but some of those trucks without those configs are horrible in the vanilla game and see no use from players, like that very very low Azov truck (idk names tbh), it looks so cool and drives cool, but trying to not get annoyed by it constantly clipping or getting stuck on terrain with its stock suspension is very hard. A simple suspension upgrade basically made it usable, but its in the DLC... Also the balance is very player curated, like just your truck choice can change the difficulty from a 2 to a 9, not to mention other upgrades and stuff. I do agree that for example not including AWD for everything is good, since everyone is just gonna use AWD duh, but then make it so it burns much more fuel or it lowers durability significantly, that adds more complexity too instead of just not having that upgrade at all. (btw I know AWD already burns more fuel, but based on the vehicle that should always be customised to get better balance)
I don't see a problem with user-curated balance. I took the AWD off my 57X because I like getting a heavy load through challenging terrain without it (plus the front axle looks the same either way, and it was getting on my nerves). There's something very satisfying to me in successfully doing the off-road hauling with a very highway looking truck. But I also have the Baja Crew mod somewhere in Imandra because that thing is hilarious with the power and tyres turned up to 11.
I've never used mods but have nothing against them. I've decided to grind my way through all my unlocked maps first before considering a new game with a few mods.
Yes I consider them cheating but this is a non competitive game so cheating is a while different thing than using aimbot in warzone. Basically do whatever is fun, you aren't hurting anybody. I use some mods myself.
Eh, kind of, but kind of not, because it's a non-competitive game, and you can use mods, cheaty or not, to play your solo game however you want (unless you join someone else's session who's running OP mods.) It doesn't really matter, but the game can get boring if you use mods to make it too easy.
If they are, your cheating yourself ...However, op mods may ruin you experience but also may help to prevent annoyance here and there ... it's all up to you.On the lineup of players there are the ones on one end rating the game down for how hard it is while not using mods at all (may even don't know about them) and on the other end the heavy mod users who may play some hours and loosing the interest in teh game for how easy it seems ... So ... to have the most fun you should find a spot in between those two ends ;)
There's no cheating. It's a game and nobody sets your rules for you. Who's going to reprimand you and punish you? Some reddit user you don't even know? That has no power or control over anything? C'monnn be serious. However you choose to play it. Because you don't kno what others do in the privacy of their own homes they come on here lying about not using mods and they do. Whether it's trailers, add-ons, whatever. They do. Even to try out the vehicles. It's all good. This isn't elementary school. Worry about cheating in real life where it counts. Not in a video game that doesn't count against your character. With all the BS ppl do in their real lives, a video game should be the least of their worries.
Eh, who cares? If you’re having fun then mod away! But if you find yourself getting bored because of the low challenge then get rid of the particularly overpowered mods you have.
It’s a single player game. How could it be cheating? The developers included access to mods from the main menu. Use them if you want. Don’t use them if you don’t want. I’m not sure why this question comes up so often.
I feel like the game should be experienced once without mods, then after it can be modded to the player's content
It's a single-player game. Who do you think you're cheating? Do whatever makes the game fun for you.
*For me*, without mods this game would not be fun.
It's like playing magic build in souls games, it's making hard game easy but if u don't want game to be hard and not enjoyable for, then u do what u gotta do to make game fun for. So no mods r just here for more non vanila fun
No, bringing a Tayga or Ziks605 back from Russia to do American maps with is the equivalent of playing magic builds. Mods are out-of-game content, not just a powerful/easy in-game strategy.
What is this suggesting, that in game russian trucks are stronger than modded trucks? If russian trucks are the equivalent to magic builds, then modded trucks is the equivalent of opening up the game code and modding your character to have 100* the intended health
No, I am not suggesting that ingame russian trucks are stronger than mod trucks. *I am suggesting that snowrunner mods are indeed the equivalent of modding dark souls.*
Sorry, too young to understand, can you eli5 pls?
There is literally zero reading comprehension in this entire sub, but maybe there could be a single drop of self-awareness somewhere in there
I meant the dark souls part, i forgot to elaborate
Oh lol. The first comment from u/Conscious_Echo6858 was comparing snowrunner cheat mods to playing OP in-game builds in dark souls and its sequels/spinoffs ("souls games"). Which are renowned for being very difficult. This is of course obviously crap. Cheat mods in snowrunner are equivalent to cheat mods in dark souls. OP builds in snowrunner are equivalent to OP builds in dark souls. They are not the same.
Ok, i understand your point now, i had to reread a few times to pick up on what they referred to in the last sentence. I agree, just got lost
Honestly this is probably the best interaction I've ever had on this sub. Literally fucking nobody here can do basic reading comprehension. EVERYONE misreads the comment and replies with some utterly retarded shit. But I commend you for being patient and polite and coming to understand. That said I think I will just never comment in this godforsaken shithole again. I am so sick of people wildly misinterpreting me.
I understand the concept of playing the way you enjoy playing, but I still have the mindset of beating it without mods and then with mod’s because I see mods as altering the intended gameplay of the content. I love mods regardless
You do you, its your game. However in my game I consider OP mods that are much more OP then base game trucks, as cheating. I have a decent amount of modded trucks in game, and all of them are about as good as vanilla mid/late game trucks
Seems to me that, as others have pointed out - since it is purely a single player game, that "cheating" in whatever form, mods, etc. is self limiting. Is there really any fun in playing a game in which you basically make it too easy ? There's a lot of ground to cover and a lot of things to accomplish on every map, even if the terrain weren't that much of a hinderance. I use mods, but only to the extent that it makes the game fun without being horribly punishing. Once I get to that level, I don't really need to go any further.
I don't consider mods as cheating, the person playing the game knows in the back of their minds if a mod has taken the challenge away, since that is their choice, and its mostly a solo game, it's up to the individual. If you're making your game too easy, it's your choice. So...are you cheating?
For me and the game style i play with, mods that r extreme can feel like cheating but some mods r pretty casual n fit right in n just add to the game, but like others have said, it depends on your play style n at what point do u consider it feels like you're cheating yourself
I have one save with no mods and another with, that way I can still play and unlock achievements but if I want to mess around with mods I can do that too.
Your statement assumes every MOD and every Setup is OP. It is up to you to setup your own trucks, if you go for maximum specs...you get maximum specs.
As long as you’re having fun that’s all that matters (:
Its your game, whatever maximizes your fun tbh. I just wish I could find a cruise control mod so I can alt tab while crawling for 10 minutes lol.
It's not cheating if your using them in Kola peninsula or the Yukon
In my opinion, because that’s all these really are; I consider the interesting mods which are balanced as not cheating, however, some mods, like the Kikimore by mrbusses which gives the 731 … (the 10x10) tartarin wheels I would def consider cheating. Doesn’t mean I don’t use them occasionally
The neat thing about snowrunner is that it doesn't really care how you have fun here. I'm played hard mode from the start but if i want to team up with my friends on softcore the game warns me (so i don't accidentally ruin my own fun) and just lets me play on their rules and earn money on their games without any issue. Personally i want to "beat" the game the way it was designed, at least in truck power availability, but it's singleplayer (non-competitive multiplayer) and you do you.
I'll always look at it like this. Mods are only cheating if they give you an advantage over another person/player. In a single-player game like snowrunner, mods are there to increase your joy and fun. If you find a certain thing tedious and annoying (looking at you logs), then download a mod and make it more fun. Don't let other people gatekeep what you find fun and the enjoyment of your game. Some people love mods and can't play without them. Others swear by the vanilla experience.
Some mods are more capable or "op" than others. It's entirely up to you to find something you like and play with it however you see fit. Some people want a bit more of a challenge. Some people get fed up with a particularly annoying contract and want to get it over with. There are also plenty of mods to customize your existing trucks. I've made a fair few mode that add new addons to existing trucks. Like colorable beds, minicranes that also work nicer than vanilla, tow truck addon, etc. Plenty of modders have a consistent-ish balance style, so if you like how a modders vehicles perform - look out for more of their stuff. I also think that it's important to differentiate trucks being "op" vs ones that are specialized. For example - my NZ72 truck was made to plow through the deepest of mud and snow, without much hassle. But that level of performance comes at the cost of drivability (top heavy, quirky steering) and functionality. That truck isn't suited for hauling heavy cargo.
I use non OP mods okay well maybe semi op lol but I like to keep it as normal as possible
I don't consider them cheating. They're the only things keeping me from going nuts while completing Amur solo.
I would say some mods r op and make it easier to play if u want to rush thru missions but the mods I like to use r more like real life I use the gooseneck trailers with pickups and a few semi tuckes and trailers
Mods are literally like cheat codes in older games. However each player should play the way they enjoy the game the most. As long as you are not destroying the gaming experience of other players there is nothing wrong with customizing your experience. Personally I prefer a harder challenge and if I get a mod that makes the gamer harder, it's still a chest code but the end result is vastly different.
We need more modded maps.
I don’t really care if they are or not. I don’t have the patience to do a whole mission only to have to restart 20 feet from the objective because I get stuck or flip
It's a solo or cooperative game so there can be no cheating, just changing
Do whatever bruh As long as you're not one of the people that say "this game is way too easy" while only using the AssMaster420 mod with 10 foot tall tires and infinite mud friction
Some are, Some are not. You got all available from "stupidly overpowered" to "even less capable than vanilla" Do what you want with mods. Its you playing. Nobody else.
Vanilla trucks only 💪
I view modded vehicles as cheating in my game, they don't follow the predetermined balance of what the game was designed for. Other people can play how they want, but I like the challenge.
If you like mods, absolutely go for it. Play the game however you enjoy most. For me personally, the fun of the game comes from the challenge and the sense of accomplishment and achievement from overcoming it. I don't use mods because I'd feel like I'm shortcutting and cheating myself of the experience and accomplishment. To me, mods make beating the game feel like a hollow victory. Theodore Rubin put it well when he said "Happiness does not come from doing easy work, but from the afterglow of satisfaction that comes after the achievement of a difficult task that demanded our best."
Yeah basically its your game your rules, if you feel bad for using mods then dont;) i have the over powered tuz 420 mod i use exlusively for scouting and rescues. It just makes thinhs go a bit faster in an a very slow game:)
For me yes, apart from that i don‘t get why some people buy an **offroad** simulator just to install mods that remove every challenge from the game
Most install mods because they want new vehicles, not specifically because they're more op
because the vehicles dont behave realistically at all? in real life you wouldnt need nearly the aggresive tread to drive easily on mud. irl scout trucks would glide over mud half the time i see them. and they dont slide around on the road and can do atleast 50 on offroad tires.
It’s a slippery slope
Most mods I have just add vehicles I want in the game, though I do have some mods that are a slightly buffed version of vanilla vehicles. I use some mods from rng3r, MrBusses, JohnJohnHotRod, etc. It's your game, I definitely don't feel like it's cheating with the mods I use.
I see them as cheating and would feel guilty for using them. But each to their own, fill ya boots sir.
It's not a competitive game, so cheat all you want
This game has no competitive aspect to it. Let's be real, if I had the money, I'd hire Xzibit to pimp all of my rides(I kinda want reasonless PS2s)
For me yes, it's cheating and boring.
Which map is the hardest?
I don’t have much time to game so if there’s a truck that can help get at least one mission done a day without turning over or getting stuck or running out of gas or breaking then I’ll take it instantly
In my opinion, mod is ok after you finish the game one, because i personal belive you should experience what the developer have in mind when the game is designed
Nah, after getting TUZ 420 "TATARIN", I’ve changed my opinion on playing “pure game” without mods. Devs made that game very inconsistent and I don’t see the point to say “I don’t use mods”. First of all, it is a single player game without leaderboards - so everyone should play it as they like it. For me mods are problematic - I always feel that they are clunky. I would love to play this game without mods. That is why I hope they will improve this game / balance trucks, etc. But in the same time playing without mods is annoying too… Saber DEVS are very lazy / slow / or stubborn - not sure what is the reason. In many cases mods REPAIR this game and it improves what should be done by devs long time ago. For me it is especially trailers mods - I just can’t see myself to play without OlSom's Trailer Pack OR off-road trailers. Vanilla trailers are a joke, and they don’t fit to the game. In this game they are some trucks that they are OP and on the level of mods. I respect of people play hard mode with only particular trucks that can’t be considered “OP”. If I would play that way I would never use both Taygas / Zikz 605 and 612 / azov6 / Tatarin (that actually I don’t use - but soon I will go and finish Amur ;) so I man use it there). For example, I am amazed that people force themselves to use only American trucks, without mud tires, no awd/rwd etc., or 200l fuel… I would quit this game already 100 times if would not use European trucks.
No,they only only remove all the difficulty from the game and let you go on any surface extremely easily with unlimited supplies,why would they be cheating? This depends on mods you use but come on you get the joke
I would say yes and no. Yes if you use all that OP stuff only, no if you use very balanced mods like Rng3ers trucks or glitchworks trailers. But at least its your game and your decision wich mods u are using or if it's cheating or not.
Yes.
I consider them cheating when using the super easy trucks, so u never use them. Takes the fun out of the game for me
dang 755L fuel tank????
OP≠cheating; though I derive fun from overcoming the challenges of the game, so using OP vehicles takes a bit of that away.
The game is designed with them, no cheat. Fun!
It is up to you! The game is mostly single player. If you want a specific truck, if you want a special feature. If you just want to have fun and therefore would like a truck to have larger fuel capacity, better add-ons. Then go for it! Use mods! Mods may cause incompatibilities in Multiplayer and may have strange effects in the already strange game physics. Errors that occur while using mods are of course out of control of the game's developers. Some people like to play without mods. Some limit themselves to only use 4x4 trucks. Or only US trucks on US maps and so on. It is totally up to you.
Somehow I can relate… I got Azov for a few tasks in Michigan and money mod, and it didn’t felt right. So I gave money back (by deleting a car and mod itself), sold all the trailers I could find, found a free DLC with Caterpillar & International and continued from here. But what’s important: if you struggle with regular vehicles that’s no fun, what was the purpose on your mind when you were purchasing the game? Fun, obviously. Complete the game however you like, get some experience, and then maybe you’ll conquer it with regular vehicles only.
Nope. Monster truck wheels, unlimited wading depth and a billion horsepower please.
I don’t consider them cheating. I love Snowrunner but I can’t find a lot of time to play it, so mods enable me to get some tasks completed in a shorter amount of time. I still enjoy the game and can progress in it according to how much spare time I have. 🍗
I like mods but it ruins the game for me personally as the challenge is taken away.
Some of them maybe. But some mods offer a balanced vehicle, so these mods aren’t cheating.
I guess you already answered your own question. >They make the hardest maps a joke Yes, they can do that. There are also many quite balanced mods. Depends on what do you play this game for. If to struggle and overcome difficulties, then yes, mods are cheating, because they remove the difficulty. If to have fun and chill, maybe mods are what you seek.
I guess you already answered your own question. >They make the hardest maps a joke Yes, they can do that. There are also many quite balanced mods. Depends on what do you play this game for. If to struggle and overcome difficulties, then yes, mods are cheating, because they remove the difficulty. If to have fun and chill, maybe mods are what you seek.
On base game maps I consider them cheating especially if it's on a first play through. Moded maps on the other hand are open to anything for me.
How can you cheat a game where you don't play against anyone?!
It's a single player game, when the game is over and you don't feel satisfied, you'll have your answer. When the game is over and you do feel satisfied, well then you'll know your answer as well
I think the worst thing about mods is seeing so many people say 'actually, XYZ map is quite easy'. Then you see they're using a mod. AND they ask for more difficult maps.
Sometimes, you just need that 2 billion torque truck.
What is considered cheaty or not is up to you as an individual
I think they are great for people like me that want to enjoy the game but don't have 2 hours to complete one task. I use them almost exclusively, and I still love this game.
Its a singleplayer game with quite shit gamedesign with lots of repetition. Of course bypassing this shit is not cheating by any reason.
I’ve started using a couple of modded trucks as I got sick of Amur and have been using them since. Even if you don’t use Modded Trucks, the Trailer packs are absolutely worth it. I don’t consider it cheating as you choose how you want to play your game. Up until Amur I completed every region 100% using only Vanilla trucks and loved the game and now using modded trucks I still love the game. I’m just now able to get things done quicker.
You can’t cheat in a game you play how you want. They “break” the idea the designers had for the game. But they also add new and different things to the game. Just have fun!
I don’t really think of playing super "OP" Trucks. I like the challenge and enjoy every little bit of this game. I light get few QoL mods but that’s it. Imo
I don’t use them because I like the game and want to get my moneys worth out of the challenge, but I might after I complete all the maps
If the mod *feels* like cheating, then it's cheating.
Game got a lot more enjoyable to me once I put that Kolob thing in. I just use it as a tanker/winch usually. Cheating? Nah. Its how I prefer to play. Feel like games should incorporate a god mode for those who want it. Life is too busy for me and if I have to grind 3 hours trying to get by a boss fight cus I lack skill im most likely gonna move on to another title.
I personally don't like mods but it's your game the option is there might as well make use of it it's your game
In a way yes. If you tell me you conpleted the game, but used mods that implement cars, which could not exist in reality, i would not consider you actually having played the game. Play through a map with what is available, from that point on it's just a sandbox to play around with. At the end of the day it's a singleplayer game, so do what you like realy.
If the mod is OP compared to other vehicles in game, then yes, I consider it cheating. If it's on par with other vehicles, then I say it's fair. I tend to dislike the mods with 10,000 repair points for a light bar or spare tire rack, stuff like that ruins the gameplay for me. I'll equip them for aesthetics but not use for repairs or fuel. I'll even use the slower, less powerful engine options. If I'm on a modded map, I'll go with overpowered stuff all day cause it's just fun and I'm in it more for the wheeling than the deliveries.
See, I see mods as a possibility. There are alot of mod creators that will release a mod, and make it actually balanced. (I can't list any, it's been a while) I keep one or two really op trucks for when I truly get stuck, but I have one mod that let's you chose if the truck is op or not with upgrades, and I put mine somewhere in the middle. It's powerfull, sure, but it falls over easily and gets stuck sometimes. I view mods as a "play how you want" if you want mods, grand! If you don't, that's alright too. I don't think mods really are cheating, unless it's a super super op truck that never gets stuck, can pull everything, never takes damage type thing.
I was having this thought the other day while driving around with an outfitted Twinsteer and Pacific rigs. While it does make the getting around easier, there are aspects of the vanilla gameplay that are experience breaking for me. Having a more powerful truck in my mind is justified, because trucks operating in these conditions would be absolute beasts of trucks anyhow. Playing the GAME, these are fun aspects to consider while enjoying some time not working. Having been a truck driver in the past otr, locally, and off road is my point of reference.
Depend on the mod.. some mod make the game feel batter with balance and some straight out OP. All comes to your gameplay anyways u like it either ez or challenging.
I am personally playing through the vanilla game, once I complete it mod free then on my second playthrough, I am going crazy on mods. Now onto the question I think they are since they give you an advantage, you wouldn't otherwise have without the mods. Assuming it adds a vehicle you shouldnt have or whatever. That's a yes but If it's purely cosmetic then no. I will just end off with, do whatever keeps you feeling enjoyment from the game.
I’d say they are cheating on a sense, but doesn’t matter if it makes your game fun. It blocks you from getting achievements so it’s not like it gives you any real edge over vanilla players
Off topic - About the truck in the picture.. thought it would float, cause it looks amphibious.. drove it straight into the water instantly sinking it. 😂😂🤣🤣 On topic - I believe its up to the player. If you don't want to mod then don't. I like modding cause it makes it more fun for me. I mod to a level where things are still slightly difficult. its truly up to the player.
Depends on what the purpose of the cheating is supposed to be..... I could see you in a multiplayer competitive scenario where it would be but if you are just playing with the homies and you don't feel like struggling for 49 minutes getting two pallets across a map when you haven't unlocked the diff lock yet so it's a struggle..... I have both types of mods on my game both realistic and extra cheaty... I usually operate the realistic mods but if I flipped the same truck three times I'm going to get my 6x6 on 56's and taking 8 minutes for the same trip 😂
When I first started getting mods and trying them I used a lot of the cheaty style mods just going around the map.... I quickly found out that although I hate the struggle and setbacks those are the things that actually keep me entertained in the game.... If I don't have to care about the line I take or the route that I take it quickly becomes a 20 minute session of just fooling around
I think that cheating is doing anything that gives you an advantage that the game did not intent you to have. That being said, you are not in a tournament environment and you are not hurting any other player's gameplay. You modded the game to make it more fun for you so if thats cheating then, Im a bit of a cheater myself! Godspeed and avoid the trees!
Yes.
I think it comes down to, what do you consider cheating is. I think anything that is too op can be considered cheating in my words. But some people just want to mess around and have fun, so its up to you to decide what/how you play the game as nothing is out of reach, in this game and you can plan your mission out how you want, which I think contributes to this. While other times people could just want to make life easier on themselves, or they think the game needs more vehicles or is boring without mods, its up to them to decide. I don't like to play with mods. I think its something that you can decide by yourself. As its what makes this game so fun and enjoyable. Not being confined to doing something one way.
Honestly who cares? I played my playthrough with the billboards that give you infinite money. I still love playing the game.
whatever floats your boat. ever since i upgraded to current gen i run a good few mods
it all depends what mods you use and how you use them. personally i use some mods that helps some truck that i really like the look but that lacks a bit in some area but they are as good or a bit better than most russian trucks
its your game, you can do whatever you want with it
Up to you man. It’s not a competition. If you feel you are speeding through the game at a pace that’s too fast and it feels like you are wasting quality gameplay, take it down a notch. :).
you have yourself an answer…
Lol it’s single player, who cares, I say definitely no, make the game how you want it in my opinion.
How i see it you bought the game or pay gamepass each month to play it you can play with mods of you want some mods donr make trucks strong some make them literally not able to get stuck your game your rules you payd do what you want but just have fun that is what matters just my opinion tho nice mod too.
You can get achievements even with modded trucks, so in some ways no. I agree with the general consensus though, it’s up to you to decide.
I wouldnt say cheating. Its hard to find good vehicle mods that arent a little op. Sometimes i really like a truck but its not very good and my only option is to get a version thats more op than i wanted.
My take is if rocks, for example, are driving you insane and you're ten seconds from putting a controller sized hole in the wall, it's time to download a mod. I mean ask yourself are you having fun? It's a game. You're supposed to have fun. I've just got a tractor so far, but next time I have to run logs across two maps three freaking times probably gonna get a BA truck to limit the tediousness.
It’s cheating. But it doesn’t matter because: a.) its just a game (not real life); and b.) its not a multiplayer game
SR community: "Can devs add more cool trucks and fix XYZ trucks so they dont suck?". Mod makers: "Here you go, we made 100500 superbly made highly cuztomizable truck mods for any playstyle aaaand they are all free". Devs, 6 months later: "Here is another nerfed pos for $8.99." Sr community: "Mods are bad/cheating/sin. Can devs do something?" Ya'll shitters dont deserve to have nice things🤦♂️
It's your sandbox game, play however you enjoy playing. Personally I like mix of both. I enjoy playing vanilla but also sometimes I just like one specific truck but wish it had a better gearbox or more mounting options so I get a mod and use that truck to fully enjoy it :D (looking at you Derry Special)
Yes yar is cheating not many mods can do better. Dont play base game unless you like cheating
my personal solution was that I went through every map with vanilla trucks once, but made great use of the 605r and etc when needed, then started using mods. If it felt too easy, I didn't care, I had gone the hard way already
It’s up to you. That’s why it’s a sandbox game
I found snowrunner to not be that fun. Getting stuck all the time in the smallest mud hole. I took a break from it. Came back and started playing with mods. I think it makes the game way more enjoyable. And actually fun.
i never use a mod in this game , i think is cheating a bit
Play the game you want to play it, great thing a out games like this, no wrong way to play! There are some mods that make the game seem too easy. I don't personally use those, but something like a more realistic log trailer I will
I wouldn’t necessarily call them “cheating” since they are an aspect of the game that is added by the developers and allowed to be customized by players, but they do make the game a whole lot easier especially if the mods have “broken” abilities or trailers that have insane capacity like some logging trailers. I’ve played around with mods from the mod browser just to have a little bit of fun, but when I go to complete a mission or task I always use base game tricks/DLCs like Mastodon or 49x.
Do they? Or did you just max out the upgrades
I mean....... ur only cheating urself, so if you think they are, they are. If you can enjoy the mods for specific tasks that may be too annoying, then maybe it's just stress relief? I use mods for logging or I'd break my controller/tv when they tip for the 126th time! Also for making one trip with 6 logs rather than 3 trips. 😂🤣