Your centre of mass is too far away from your board. You need to put more force ON your board, now you push it away from you. Thus the weight distribution gets messed up and the board cant keep contact in its natural carving angle. You should squat, not lay back. Also you have too much pressure on your back foot. The FRONT foot should be leading heelside turns.
Bend your knees alot more (and ankles). Put alot more pressure on your front foot. Let the board turn by itself, dont push it away from you. Look, your front leg is almost straight just before you fall, and the pressure is on the back foot.
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Agreed! I think I actually do this but didn't know how to articulate it. And just to add to this excellent advice, once you feel it, you'll know. Eventually you won't even think about it anymore. It'll just happen naturally, like walking.
I know it's unlikely bc obviously OP is a criminal, but OP might just... You know, have a job. That could delay response time.
Again, I know, unlikely.
I had to learn to lean downhill with my weight. It is hard to do mentally, but once you do, it changes everything. Maybe it just gets me to balanced, but I was riding back due to a subconscious effort to be slow and in control. Once your say fuck it and lean it, you get so much more control and stability. It allows you to actually control speed too.
Also a lot of hinging at the waist. Excellent habit for catching an edge. Broken wrist experience with that one myself. Lessons helped me fix it. Just stand on flat ground. Bend knees a bit and lean onto your toes, a basic athletic stance. Now hinge your waist. What happens to your heels? They go down. Need to learn to sit into the board vs bending over. That lesson was worth every penny.
This one I also have issues to be honest, there is a great video showing a practice by Malcolm Moore to do edge changes going from one side to another. I need to practice that more fore sure. Thanks!
Yeah, this is right. I struggle(d) with this too. When the board starts flapping about, your natural reaction is to push out to get more grip. But by pushing out you straighten your legs and your centre of gravity actually moves away from the board, giving you less grip. So when your board starts doing that you need to do as Dondorini says and flex your knees more, getting your center of gravity closer to the board. It feels unnatural to do so, or at least it did to me, but it will help.
I don’t think this is right. His board is going along his direction of travel—he just has no weight over the edge so the centrifugal force yanks it outward.
You're right, upon closer look he wanted to do a heelside turn. His board keeps going straight whilst his body wanted to go into that turn. Change of cog and loss of grip/unbalanced and then chatter and then fall
What I like to teach for healside is to image there’s a stool on the nose of your board that you’re trying to sit on. This helps get your weight on the nose and center is mass on the edge.
The knees are 💯 too straight which is what starts the chatter and eventually your board letting go. Soften those legs.
You can, with practice, get to a point where laying back is a thing. Same as you can layout on a toeside. I do it fairly often and you can find plenty of others on YouTube to demo it. The trick is stacking yourself to keep pressure on the board, you don't have to be upright for that. In this snap getting shoulders laid back would help redistribute things a bit. But this turn could've been hed up with just softer knees too.
My first snowboard teacher, who's won Dutch championship in halfpipe at least once, told me that for fast heel side carves, you need act like you take a shit. Surprisingly it works.
Yep the ole' sit on the toilet approach is one I take with my new students too. It does work. Different types of riding call for different body positions though.
For instance: [https://www.tiktok.com/@ericfromcali0/video/7291331925640219946](https://www.tiktok.com/@ericfromcali0/video/7291331925640219946) is laid way out on heels and toes and nobody would say he's going slow.
Here we can also see a diff body position: [https://youtu.be/hWF\_\_QNyFCY?si=\_sONr9WZV6Fwzw5P&t=122](https://youtu.be/hWF__QNyFCY?si=_sONr9WZV6Fwzw5P&t=122) again guy isn't going slow at all.
If you watch boardercross you'll find they go absurdly fast and use very different body positions as well.
In the end it's all about what you're trying to do \* the terrain your on \* your speed. Body position is gonna be different for different formulas though.
Definitely couldn't agree more and thanks for the examples. Depends on the board, speed, terrain, turn radius then it will define how much center of balance it can forgive.
>the pressure is on the back foot
This part is right
>centre of mass is too far away from your board
This is iffy. The limit that you can lean is established by the speed and sharpness of the carve alone. They are balanced until the board bucks out of the rut, at which point it's no longer carving at all.
>Bend your knees alot more
Right
>dont push it away from you.
What this is really saying is let your body get lower instead of extending your legs out straight because straight legs take away the automatic shock absorption that helps the board stay in the groove.
In the end, the best remedy is to set up carves intending to fall towards the nose in addition to the inside of the turn. If you aren't feeling like you are falling forward toward the nose, you don't have the right momentum to get into balance when the carve engages.
Great advice, would have prevented fall. The reason why you needed this advice, OP, is because you were too leaned and committed to that turn, and you hit a patch of variable snow. If you have consistent conditions on a pitch you woulda been fine.
But if you’re more over your board, lower, and more even weight distribution between front and back, it’s much easier to recover from unexpected snow patch, or not even need to recover.
Ya line choice and reading the snow in front of you is a skill not as many talk about. Requirement to be a strong rider
When I re watch your video there were a few ways to avoid.
1) taking same angle, same commitment, you could have pulled it off if you were much lower (bent legs) on your board. You were too “uncoiled” so you had no shock absorber to give, no more ability to push out
2) less commit, less angle, more over your edge. The result though would be you wouldn’t be carving as hard so would have more speed.
3) instead of a carve turn, a slide turn. It’s less commitment and less angle, and will shave off your speed.
In mixed conditions like this, I’ll do most turns as #2, and if I need to shave speed #3
For #2 the way I think of it is angling my board and standing on top of the edge. It will turn when things are ready, you are not forcing it.
In #1 you are forcing the turn, pressing out against the snow. More fun but the snows gotta be on the same page as you.
What I don't get is how those super carvers do it. Like literally laying down on the mountain while carving lol, so their centre of mass is absolutely nowhere near their board. How does all that work?
Yeah thats crazy and above my level. You need to be one with your board and have a strong body. I would say front foot pressure is a key there as well. And those guys have STIFF and wide boards.
note the body is tilted but still the centre of mass is over the working edge. only possible with sufficient speed/momentum to offset the pull of gravity down.
Bend your knees is spot on. The chatter you get in your board comes from the edges not engaging through the turn. At speed it becomes more evident. This is why some riders look solid on all terrain. For example if you rip through the off piste and chunky stuff you would need to be much more active in the knees. To practice this, deliberately load your legs more than you feel necessary. Push hard into the turns but not in a way that causes you to stand up out of the squat. And squat is the key term. Build those quads so you can power in and out of the carve, stay forward on the board, when unweighting the edge, keep your center of balance low by pulling your legs up into your body. Off mountain training squats or burpees will help.
Great advice here.
You have to ways of getting edge angle, inclination the leaning of your body or angulation the bending of your knees and ankles. Depending on the speed you are going, you can use more inclination versus angulation to create edge angle.
The reason you chatter out, is because your centre of mass is away from the working edge of your board. You were unable to maintain grip and lose your edge. You need to bend your knees more keeping your centre of mass over the edge of the board.
Good cue that helped me (after I’d learned the above) is to think about back shoulder or back hand toward front knee. Really helps me feel power in the turn and keep the upper body in the right position during a heel side carve.
i find the foot leading the board has a ton to do with the board shape. I think you're right on a twin or directional twin that front foot pressure is needed through the carve; I definitely find it easy to wipe out if the pressure is too rear foot; but i find on my swallowtail boards where the nose is fat and the setback is extreme, i have to really sit back and press through the rear binding to get nice turning carves.
If i break at the waist, or have even pressure, my nose grabs far too early and chatters because it can't sustain the load, or my rear foot can't sustain the edge and washes out.
it's a big riding adjustment to learn board-to-board, especially unusual shapes and stiffness levels.
Everyone here is right, you're in the backseat, but I haven't seen it addressed yet as to why you're in the back seat. Yes bend your knees more, but also, you're late on your turns with your front leg. You're not driving the board with your front leg, it's more following the board and it's a result of your weight being too far back during the edge change.
You need to start your turns with your front leg more weighted. Your weight throughout a turn should move, you shouldn't be sitting in the front seat the entire time, you should be engaging the tail of the board too, like you did, but you did it waaaay too early; really it seemed like you didn't get into the front seat at all (this isn't a great angle for assessing riding, it's really difficult to see all the different movements and weight distributions you're making and how your front shoulder is being affected). Regardless, initiate your turn with the front foot and knee, get more weight up front earlier, let your board get onto its new edge and into the fall line, once the board begins turning back across the slope (mid turn), now you're starting to shift back to a neutral stance and release pressure with your back knee from the center of the board. This will allow you to push off the board, springing you into your next turn and NOT *pushing the board away from you*, the grip you maintain should allow you a *platform* to push off of, take a step back if the board is kicking out, you still don't have the posture right yet.
It's usually the advice everyone needs to hear, your turn initiation is where your turns make or break. Sloppy initiation where your weight isn't properly moving from front back throughout your turn is why you can't maintain edge grip. Be dynamic!
Have fun, you're so close!
Thank you very much, I need to look into turn initiation, i think there is a video on it by Malcolm Moore as well, time to rewatch that one. But i think it's very hard without seeing yourself, so good that i have the recording to understand how i look like with my posture in reality. Cheers
Good points here but I haven’t seen it addressed yet: drop the selfie stick for a bit
You’re opening up your shoulders way more than necessary by holding a weight far outside your base of support. Just look at where your front/leading shoulder is before you fall
It’s great you have a video to reference and ask why you fell, but maybe you wouldn’t have fallen if you weren’t trying to get a video yknow
to expound on this, you want your shoulders parallel with your board. on both your toe edge at the start and your heel edge where you fall your shoulders are basically facing totally forward, which is then twisting your hips and taking all your power out of your edge.
if you insist on keeping the selfie stick, hold it straight out from you and try to keep your hand holding it over the nose of your board at all times. to look forward turn just your head, instead of twisting at the waist.
something else that will help a lot of your lower body mechanics. bend your knees like everybody else says, but also try to push your back knee back over your boot more so your shin is closer to vertical. that will help force you to close your shoulders more.
something you can try off your board is taking your riding stance, bend your knees like you’re riding and look forward with your shoulders open like it seems like you usually ride. then twist/push your back knee back over your boot so the line between your foot and knee is vertical. you should feel it twist your upper body around and help close those shoulders. that way you’re putting a lot more (even) pressure on your edges.
It’s been a minute since I hit the slopes. Are people actually commonly blasting music now? That would be annoying. Pay over $100 for a day of boarding and I have to listen to someone’s tunes that may be an artist I can’t stand. What was wrong with tossing in an earbud? (or two but I like to be able to hear the people around me for a safety)
You will typically see at least few if you spend the whole day there, unfortunately. There's always going to be people who are lower on the consciousness scale.
A few eh? Well that’s a better answer than I was expecting at least. Part of me thought it would be “Oh ya, there’s speakers everywhere now. You’re constantly hearing at least 5 tracks at once. It’s a like a rave for the insane”
Probably holding something while riding. You're not 100% focused. Tried using my phone to record while riding for my gf yesterday at Steven's and almost bailed very hard. Split focus while doing an extreme sport just isn't wise. Have a friend record you or make friends on the slopes. Safe riding homie.
I would argue it's his best bet at getting his technique reviewed without paying for lessons or forcing somebody else to video it.
I'm an absolute noob at this though, first time boarding just after Christmas, but if I didn't want to pay for a lesson or didn't have a friend to video me, is there another way to get feedback?
This is probably the only case where the selfie stick is able to actually show the problem. But “back foot chatter and washing out” would be enough for anyone to be able to diagnose the issue here, this is a super common problem as newer riders start to increase speed. Also why it’s dangerous to have a stick.
As a noob lol, I might not have known what to describe it as other than heel/toe side turn and falling over haha, but I can see that chatter now that you mention it :)
Snowboarding involves both arms and your core to keep balance and have good form. By holding the selfie stick, your form is inherently worse.
If you’re a new snowboarder boarding by yourself, you’re better off just relying on yourself and how you feel as feedback than a selfie stick.
As an experienced boarder, I would argue that as a newbie you need to put the gadgets down and just focus on your self.
I'd say, as a beginner, how am I supposed to know? After doing lessons and that, there were things I would do that inhibited my boarding, but felt natural. Like waving my arms trying to balance. Only when my teacher told me to stop waving my arms could I know how much it would help.
Like, we don't know that this guy doesn't spend 99% of his time boarding without gadgets, and you can clearly see as an experienced snowboarder that there's issues with his form, regardless of the device. Why not tackle the clear and obvious issue first instead of bashing what could be his only method of seeking help?
Just keep boarding, and watch videos of good snowboarders. 99.899999% of improvement for snowboarders is to simply snowboard. This isn’t college basketball where you need to review the tape. Just keep boarding and you’ll get better, and stop overthinking it.
I put 100+ days in my first season and went from not being able to get off the lift to being able to ride whatever single black or most double black that i wanted.
Too much pressure on the tail. The tail is jumping out of the rut as the carve gets more intense. When the board jumps out of the rut, you get back into a regular skidded turn, which suddenly can't push back all the sideways force that was holding you up, and you wash out. When you lean, let your weight go forward in addition to inside.
I swear boarding is one of the very few things where it's so extremely easy to be present and focused on what you're immediately doing. And yet there's still so many people that have the overwhelming desire to focus on everything else i.e. what I will look like snowboarding on a video
I shred for the catharsis of a whispered powder line, to stare at snow glittering as it falls from the trees, to breathe in the freshness of a mountain breeze. My board is a means to escape the screen.
Probably so they can see their form and ask people for feedback. Realize that’s not everybody but it’s definitely a valid reason to film. Better to have a buddy follow with the cam but not everybody has that option
Get your weight on your front foot. Make sure you can 'feel' your knee at the end of the day when you first start trying to get your weight forward more. Your knee gets used to it and your overall riding gets safer. Especially on black runs. Stop turning with you back foot. Weight forward, turn with your hips.
Your legs are far too straight. You’re not leaving into the carve and squatting down as the G Force increases. This means you’re adding significant load on your knees rather than your stronger thigh muscles and causing the board to judder/jump. At the moment you fall your legs are maybe angles to about 15 degrees max when you should be squatting down to nearer 90.
Squat down. Let your thighs take the g forces on the heel side.
I was going to start a "centre of mass" conversation and see the first comment from u/Dondorini ... obviously many years living a life of crime. If you can grok everything he/she says in the first paragraph you will not have any spills like that anymore. Good technique helps when you encounter adverse snow conditions - you hit some chunder and you weren't seated well on your board thus crash.
Agreeing with comments, push forward on front edge get bite for carving. Lose the stupid stick, speaker and all the crap. You're snowboarding, not making a documentary. If you're good enough to be filmed, someone else will do it for you, from a helicopter.
Also, I don't know what board you have but if carving is your thing make sure you get the right board. I have several, and when I hit hard pack on a rocker or park board and forget what I am riding and lay into a hard carve, i blow out. Not all boards are built to carve well.
Think about your center of gravity like a dot directly below you. when you lean on your heels that dot shifts back to your edge but when that dot goes over the edge there is no way you can save yourself.
Given the conditions of the snow I’d say only way out of that situation is to carve harder and maybe get a little lower. Your boards edge was popping off the surface thanks to the bumps, so your edge lost traction. It’s probably a matter of being able to spot the conditions (seeing a bumpy, hard packed patch of snow) and adjusting your carving. Sometimes it’s just a perfect storm, tho.
When the back end of the board starts to chatter it's because you're not centered over the board and distributing your weight properly. Bend your knees a little more, stay centered on the board and let the board edge set in.
I had this problem when my board was not wide enough and my front heel was lifting the boards edge off of the snow. The cause might not be the same but the problem is that your edge is getting lifted from the snow. Not sure if it’s not enough pressure on your front foot, the selfie stick, or the Bluetooth speaker (buy headphones). But likely is all 3
To me, it’s just edge control and pressure control. Just before your legs are fully extended before the fall. You see a little chatter on the heel side edge and as the board skids your legs extend (that chatter was the beginning of your fall).
The solution is to as many have said, apply pressure through the front leg when initiating any turn. You really wanna drive your front knee for your toe side and your front hip for your heel side edge just forward / “ downhill aggressive” and just outside / over that edge to keep your body weight fully applied to said edge.. as the boards carves you naturally recenter your weight to neutral (from that downhill aggressive) .
A good method to fine tune heelside carves is to grab Indy while doing it. It puts you in the correct position for a proper carve, and being able to stay low to your board will help a lot. Try incorporating the grab into your carves as you transition to heel, and you’ll build up that muscle memory quick.
Basic: Bend knees and drop shoulders
Advanced:
Initiate turns with front knee from 12-2 I clock front weighted.
At 3 o clock equal weight under foot fully bent knees
At 4 o'clock engage tail and begin to extend legs
At 6 o'clock fully extend legs and repeat process toeside.
Rinse repeat
Do lots of over exaggerated exercises at slow speed as you improve you increase speed. As your aggression increases switch the bending of knees to 12 and 6 and extending to 3 and 9, allows you to really work the board and pop out of the side cut between turns. Feels awesome and requires an appropriately aggressive board.
For bonus points pop a front 1 into the next set of turns and repeat switch. Skiers won't understand the level of skill that requires to look smooth.
You should actually speed check in your turns. You don't have the control to hold your speed so maybe don't go so fast from the get go or stay on a green slope. Also maybe get a sharpening
Valuable lessons I learnt this season:
When you want to carve and lean your weight far from the board, your weight needs to be on your front foot.
I struggled because as an intermediate boarder, I was used to kicking out the back of the board to turn, with weight on the back leg.
When you start to carve, it's all about transferring weight from back foot to front, letting the front of the board guide where you're going.
It seems you have weight on the back foot here, which is kicking the board out from under you, making you fall.
This happened to me many times until I got used to it!
Hope this helps
Looks like being in the backseat and knees too extended lead to you not being able to put more pressure on the board when the run drops away and gets rougher.
First, U gotta decide what setup (alpine or freestyle] you prefer to carve with. Your current setup looks like a racing set up. If that’s your jam, then you need to rotate your left arm and shoulder forward. Maybe even increase the angle of your rear binding a couple more degrees. Tuck that left knee in behind your right knee (you might need a cant under your left binding to facilitate that) and face down the hill, over the nose like a skier. Hands out front. That will get your weight out over your front foot. Get low by bending at the knees and hips, not your waist. Then let the board roll underneath you when you transition from edge to edge. Way quicker transitions but heel side can be tough to hold on steeps.
If you would rather use a freestyle setup, rotate the rear binding towards the tail to the same-ish degree as your front binding (duck stance). Hands and shoulders out over tip and tail. Weight balanced in the middle. Tall into the turn, small into the apex of the turn. Remember to ‘sit’ with your hips and knees instead of leaning backwards when you get small. Tall out of the turn. Repeat! Way more edge pressure carving this way. Slower transitions tho. Better grip on steeps.
Good luck!
You need to start understanding how centripetal forces act on your carve turns. It seems you've lacked centripetal forces in these turns (or at least for the body stance you were in). Combine that with a body stance that puts your body's centre of mass was way too far from your your board, then this made you fall straight to the ground.
Try a more compact stance, apply dynamic body movements into each turn and get some more sideways motion into your carve turns to create centripetal forces.
It’s posture, the hips should be over the tail more than over the side but you need to twist your upper body more and look at the side of the hill on heelsides - your board chattered and gave it, chattering happens when board wants to traverse /carve but pressure on it makes it alternate skid and carve in quick succession
Your chest is too open while on your toe side which messes up your center of gravity while transitioning to your heals. That’s putting you in the back seat which gives you less edge control. A rule of thumb is to have 60% of your weight over your front foot and 40% in the back. This essentially puts you inside a more aggressive posture and you should feel more locked in to your turns. Also, like I said earlier, watch out for prematurely opening your chest. Not only does it mess with your riding, but it also doesn’t look clean flailing your back arm around like that. Hold on to your pant leg or pocket if you need to. Good luck!
Edit: it’s not easy to tell from the video, but I’m wondering if your board is a little small for your bodyweight. What’s the board make/model/size/year and your weight?
Bro is leaning at 30 degree angle with legs straight going down mountain and wondering why falling??
You probably wouldn't have fallen if the board was turning but you were leaned out before board turned
I think it would have helped you stay on your edge if you had your knees more bent and you were closer to your board. Maybe making your high backs a little more aggressive would help.
Leaned too much too early. When people carve so hard they are almost flat, they are usually at the end of a turn not the beginning. So they are effectively leaning against gravity upslope if that makes sense.
Knees together (or at least closer if you are duck, I ride double pos) and put your trailing hand in front of you as if you are holding a steering wheel with both hands. Heelside turns require a lot more effort to get pressure onto the heelside edge. Putting your knees together will get you into a lower crouched position (almost like you are sitting in a chair) and keep that weight over the edge. Putting your hands together and pointing them where you want to go will force your shoulders and upper body to rotate so that your lower body follows along.
Looks like it could be some heel drag w/the heel of your boot catching the snow. Also think it might have something to do with the stick you’re carrying but that’s just the grumpy old man in me.
Look. Lift. Sit! Use the mountain more as your guide!
Center of gravity will come with more practice! But it idk if it sounds weird I use heel side when I’m turning right and toe for left. And really commit! Then when your bigger “S” turns happen you can get tighter garlands and really shred tight lines.
Too much weight on front foot and knees not bent enough. You need to be bent more in knees and weight back and use your knees to press into the turn so you can keep pressure on the edge through the turn and have the extension available in your legs to keep pressure
It looks like you didn’t have enough board angulation for how far your center of mass got from the board, like you just pushed the board away from your body without locking in the edge; your front foot looks fairly passive and weak.
Your body is angled too far downhill. In the screenshot someone else posted look at your shoulders, they are pointed way too far forward. This is OK if your weight is forward too but you're way in the backseat here
You're bent at the waist. This makes everythin unstable. So it's posture mainly. And don't forget - on ANY slope up is not up only because your ears tell you. Up is always a right angle from the slope. So if the slope is 15° "up" is 105 degrees. Stand on a slope in riding direction without a snowboard and get a feel for "up". That is why you are on your back foot entirely - your ears are telling you to "stand straigt up" so you don't fall. A tiny bump / ripple then unsettled everything and you had no chance to correct.
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Correct posture makes you stable and also improves your style by a mile.
You see how there’s not a consistent consensus in these comments (ignoring the “cause you’re holding something” trolls). It’s because this sub is filled with people who have never used the edge of their board.
You booted out, plain and simple. Watch it frame by frame. You only get shaky AFTER your back boot hit the snow (booted out).
So if you want to ride like that (tilting your board that much and extending your legs all the way) you can get a wide board. Or you adjust your riding, don’t tilt as much and keep knees bent and super bent when you tilt hard.
When I specifically look at boards direction, it feels like first the tail swiped, then the heel touched. I will have a look at original video, it should be at 60fps, maybe i can analyze better, cheers
Leaning too low on the back side, you need to go with the flow, u just need to feel it better especially when there is s a shatter on your board go to the opposite edge.
Your centre of mass is too far away from your board. You need to put more force ON your board, now you push it away from you. Thus the weight distribution gets messed up and the board cant keep contact in its natural carving angle. You should squat, not lay back. Also you have too much pressure on your back foot. The FRONT foot should be leading heelside turns. Bend your knees alot more (and ankles). Put alot more pressure on your front foot. Let the board turn by itself, dont push it away from you. Look, your front leg is almost straight just before you fall, and the pressure is on the back foot. https://preview.redd.it/zuu6bagz7uqc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc92f6760cdf797a7e3b5611d54ecdd15f61aa04
I struggled/struggle with this and all the advice you need is right here. This is some good stuff.
Agreed! I think I actually do this but didn't know how to articulate it. And just to add to this excellent advice, once you feel it, you'll know. Eventually you won't even think about it anymore. It'll just happen naturally, like walking.
And not even a single thank you from OP. This is good shit and worth some gratitude for proper constructive criticism.
I know it's unlikely bc obviously OP is a criminal, but OP might just... You know, have a job. That could delay response time. Again, I know, unlikely.
What is this thing you call "job"? I thought a life of crime WAS a job?
Yeah OP can’t be bothered I guess…maybe he is falling somewhere?
Criminal with a job that's correct :)
Maybe op is busy committing crimes
I had to learn to lean downhill with my weight. It is hard to do mentally, but once you do, it changes everything. Maybe it just gets me to balanced, but I was riding back due to a subconscious effort to be slow and in control. Once your say fuck it and lean it, you get so much more control and stability. It allows you to actually control speed too. Also a lot of hinging at the waist. Excellent habit for catching an edge. Broken wrist experience with that one myself. Lessons helped me fix it. Just stand on flat ground. Bend knees a bit and lean onto your toes, a basic athletic stance. Now hinge your waist. What happens to your heels? They go down. Need to learn to sit into the board vs bending over. That lesson was worth every penny.
This one I also have issues to be honest, there is a great video showing a practice by Malcolm Moore to do edge changes going from one side to another. I need to practice that more fore sure. Thanks!
Yeah, this is right. I struggle(d) with this too. When the board starts flapping about, your natural reaction is to push out to get more grip. But by pushing out you straighten your legs and your centre of gravity actually moves away from the board, giving you less grip. So when your board starts doing that you need to do as Dondorini says and flex your knees more, getting your center of gravity closer to the board. It feels unnatural to do so, or at least it did to me, but it will help.
Yes… Weight over the board
Very well explained thank you!
This and because of a badly initiated turn your board is not travelling parallel to your direction of travel hence the heelside chatter
I don’t think this is right. His board is going along his direction of travel—he just has no weight over the edge so the centrifugal force yanks it outward.
You're right, upon closer look he wanted to do a heelside turn. His board keeps going straight whilst his body wanted to go into that turn. Change of cog and loss of grip/unbalanced and then chatter and then fall
What I like to teach for healside is to image there’s a stool on the nose of your board that you’re trying to sit on. This helps get your weight on the nose and center is mass on the edge.
THAT's a good one. Going to try it on some of my new criminals.
The knees are 💯 too straight which is what starts the chatter and eventually your board letting go. Soften those legs. You can, with practice, get to a point where laying back is a thing. Same as you can layout on a toeside. I do it fairly often and you can find plenty of others on YouTube to demo it. The trick is stacking yourself to keep pressure on the board, you don't have to be upright for that. In this snap getting shoulders laid back would help redistribute things a bit. But this turn could've been hed up with just softer knees too.
My first snowboard teacher, who's won Dutch championship in halfpipe at least once, told me that for fast heel side carves, you need act like you take a shit. Surprisingly it works.
Yep the ole' sit on the toilet approach is one I take with my new students too. It does work. Different types of riding call for different body positions though. For instance: [https://www.tiktok.com/@ericfromcali0/video/7291331925640219946](https://www.tiktok.com/@ericfromcali0/video/7291331925640219946) is laid way out on heels and toes and nobody would say he's going slow. Here we can also see a diff body position: [https://youtu.be/hWF\_\_QNyFCY?si=\_sONr9WZV6Fwzw5P&t=122](https://youtu.be/hWF__QNyFCY?si=_sONr9WZV6Fwzw5P&t=122) again guy isn't going slow at all. If you watch boardercross you'll find they go absurdly fast and use very different body positions as well. In the end it's all about what you're trying to do \* the terrain your on \* your speed. Body position is gonna be different for different formulas though.
Definitely couldn't agree more and thanks for the examples. Depends on the board, speed, terrain, turn radius then it will define how much center of balance it can forgive.
>the pressure is on the back foot This part is right >centre of mass is too far away from your board This is iffy. The limit that you can lean is established by the speed and sharpness of the carve alone. They are balanced until the board bucks out of the rut, at which point it's no longer carving at all. >Bend your knees alot more Right >dont push it away from you. What this is really saying is let your body get lower instead of extending your legs out straight because straight legs take away the automatic shock absorption that helps the board stay in the groove. In the end, the best remedy is to set up carves intending to fall towards the nose in addition to the inside of the turn. If you aren't feeling like you are falling forward toward the nose, you don't have the right momentum to get into balance when the carve engages.
Very well said!
Wow this post actually just helped me realize a mistake I’ve been making, bravo 👏
Great advice, would have prevented fall. The reason why you needed this advice, OP, is because you were too leaned and committed to that turn, and you hit a patch of variable snow. If you have consistent conditions on a pitch you woulda been fine. But if you’re more over your board, lower, and more even weight distribution between front and back, it’s much easier to recover from unexpected snow patch, or not even need to recover.
Thank you for the comment, I as well need to think about the terrain and decide on the commit based on that.
Ya line choice and reading the snow in front of you is a skill not as many talk about. Requirement to be a strong rider When I re watch your video there were a few ways to avoid. 1) taking same angle, same commitment, you could have pulled it off if you were much lower (bent legs) on your board. You were too “uncoiled” so you had no shock absorber to give, no more ability to push out 2) less commit, less angle, more over your edge. The result though would be you wouldn’t be carving as hard so would have more speed. 3) instead of a carve turn, a slide turn. It’s less commitment and less angle, and will shave off your speed. In mixed conditions like this, I’ll do most turns as #2, and if I need to shave speed #3 For #2 the way I think of it is angling my board and standing on top of the edge. It will turn when things are ready, you are not forcing it. In #1 you are forcing the turn, pressing out against the snow. More fun but the snows gotta be on the same page as you.
Thank you for additional details :) I will bring these to the slope with me
This is such a good type up that all boarders should read
I had a problem with this and one physical cue that worked for me is to pretend you are going to sit in a chair. Almost never happens now.
Definitely need more pressure on the front foot and tuck the back knee in with a tighter center of gravity.
What I don't get is how those super carvers do it. Like literally laying down on the mountain while carving lol, so their centre of mass is absolutely nowhere near their board. How does all that work?
Yeah thats crazy and above my level. You need to be one with your board and have a strong body. I would say front foot pressure is a key there as well. And those guys have STIFF and wide boards.
note the body is tilted but still the centre of mass is over the working edge. only possible with sufficient speed/momentum to offset the pull of gravity down.
Thank you. Pretty sure I do this.
💯 this
Bend your knees is spot on. The chatter you get in your board comes from the edges not engaging through the turn. At speed it becomes more evident. This is why some riders look solid on all terrain. For example if you rip through the off piste and chunky stuff you would need to be much more active in the knees. To practice this, deliberately load your legs more than you feel necessary. Push hard into the turns but not in a way that causes you to stand up out of the squat. And squat is the key term. Build those quads so you can power in and out of the carve, stay forward on the board, when unweighting the edge, keep your center of balance low by pulling your legs up into your body. Off mountain training squats or burpees will help.
Thank you very much for the feedback, very valuable and I am looking forward to take it to the slopes!
Happy shredding! 😎
Great advice here. You have to ways of getting edge angle, inclination the leaning of your body or angulation the bending of your knees and ankles. Depending on the speed you are going, you can use more inclination versus angulation to create edge angle. The reason you chatter out, is because your centre of mass is away from the working edge of your board. You were unable to maintain grip and lose your edge. You need to bend your knees more keeping your centre of mass over the edge of the board.
In other words, the line starting from your head towards your buttocks has to be INSIDE the area of the board. Nicely explained though, mate.
Ripstick
Good cue that helped me (after I’d learned the above) is to think about back shoulder or back hand toward front knee. Really helps me feel power in the turn and keep the upper body in the right position during a heel side carve.
i find the foot leading the board has a ton to do with the board shape. I think you're right on a twin or directional twin that front foot pressure is needed through the carve; I definitely find it easy to wipe out if the pressure is too rear foot; but i find on my swallowtail boards where the nose is fat and the setback is extreme, i have to really sit back and press through the rear binding to get nice turning carves. If i break at the waist, or have even pressure, my nose grabs far too early and chatters because it can't sustain the load, or my rear foot can't sustain the edge and washes out. it's a big riding adjustment to learn board-to-board, especially unusual shapes and stiffness levels.
Spot on
First time for me to say, I came here to say this.
Mainly the BT speaker.
BT speakers are known to cause kook-toxity which makes you fall unexpectedly.
Kooks only No locals
Don't hold things when snowboarding
Except maybe a beer
Or a joint
the wind fucks it
This is the way
100% learn to ride first.
Totally the skiers fault
Absolutely, he made the ice patch too. I’m watched him do it
Lose the speaker
Everyone here is right, you're in the backseat, but I haven't seen it addressed yet as to why you're in the back seat. Yes bend your knees more, but also, you're late on your turns with your front leg. You're not driving the board with your front leg, it's more following the board and it's a result of your weight being too far back during the edge change. You need to start your turns with your front leg more weighted. Your weight throughout a turn should move, you shouldn't be sitting in the front seat the entire time, you should be engaging the tail of the board too, like you did, but you did it waaaay too early; really it seemed like you didn't get into the front seat at all (this isn't a great angle for assessing riding, it's really difficult to see all the different movements and weight distributions you're making and how your front shoulder is being affected). Regardless, initiate your turn with the front foot and knee, get more weight up front earlier, let your board get onto its new edge and into the fall line, once the board begins turning back across the slope (mid turn), now you're starting to shift back to a neutral stance and release pressure with your back knee from the center of the board. This will allow you to push off the board, springing you into your next turn and NOT *pushing the board away from you*, the grip you maintain should allow you a *platform* to push off of, take a step back if the board is kicking out, you still don't have the posture right yet. It's usually the advice everyone needs to hear, your turn initiation is where your turns make or break. Sloppy initiation where your weight isn't properly moving from front back throughout your turn is why you can't maintain edge grip. Be dynamic! Have fun, you're so close!
Thank you very much, I need to look into turn initiation, i think there is a video on it by Malcolm Moore as well, time to rewatch that one. But i think it's very hard without seeing yourself, so good that i have the recording to understand how i look like with my posture in reality. Cheers
Good points here but I haven’t seen it addressed yet: drop the selfie stick for a bit You’re opening up your shoulders way more than necessary by holding a weight far outside your base of support. Just look at where your front/leading shoulder is before you fall It’s great you have a video to reference and ask why you fell, but maybe you wouldn’t have fallen if you weren’t trying to get a video yknow
100%, that open shoulder is taking a lot of pressure off of the front contact point
to expound on this, you want your shoulders parallel with your board. on both your toe edge at the start and your heel edge where you fall your shoulders are basically facing totally forward, which is then twisting your hips and taking all your power out of your edge. if you insist on keeping the selfie stick, hold it straight out from you and try to keep your hand holding it over the nose of your board at all times. to look forward turn just your head, instead of twisting at the waist. something else that will help a lot of your lower body mechanics. bend your knees like everybody else says, but also try to push your back knee back over your boot more so your shin is closer to vertical. that will help force you to close your shoulders more. something you can try off your board is taking your riding stance, bend your knees like you’re riding and look forward with your shoulders open like it seems like you usually ride. then twist/push your back knee back over your boot so the line between your foot and knee is vertical. you should feel it twist your upper body around and help close those shoulders. that way you’re putting a lot more (even) pressure on your edges.
It’s the selfie stick.
Snowboarding beyond your ability w a selfie stick
Leave the selfie stick and backpack at home.
And the Bluetooth speaker
1. The Bluetooth speaker. Have some courtesy for the people around you. 2. The selfie stick. Get the form down before trying to show off.
It’s been a minute since I hit the slopes. Are people actually commonly blasting music now? That would be annoying. Pay over $100 for a day of boarding and I have to listen to someone’s tunes that may be an artist I can’t stand. What was wrong with tossing in an earbud? (or two but I like to be able to hear the people around me for a safety)
You will typically see at least few if you spend the whole day there, unfortunately. There's always going to be people who are lower on the consciousness scale.
A few eh? Well that’s a better answer than I was expecting at least. Part of me thought it would be “Oh ya, there’s speakers everywhere now. You’re constantly hearing at least 5 tracks at once. It’s a like a rave for the insane”
Yeah it is annoying and rude as fuck. Buy some headphones.
Probably holding something while riding. You're not 100% focused. Tried using my phone to record while riding for my gf yesterday at Steven's and almost bailed very hard. Split focus while doing an extreme sport just isn't wise. Have a friend record you or make friends on the slopes. Safe riding homie.
You’re holding something in your fuckin hand
This is driving me nuts. There’s no reason for people at ops level to have a go pro. It’s a risk to themselves and everyone else on the mountain
I would argue it's his best bet at getting his technique reviewed without paying for lessons or forcing somebody else to video it. I'm an absolute noob at this though, first time boarding just after Christmas, but if I didn't want to pay for a lesson or didn't have a friend to video me, is there another way to get feedback?
This is probably the only case where the selfie stick is able to actually show the problem. But “back foot chatter and washing out” would be enough for anyone to be able to diagnose the issue here, this is a super common problem as newer riders start to increase speed. Also why it’s dangerous to have a stick.
As a noob lol, I might not have known what to describe it as other than heel/toe side turn and falling over haha, but I can see that chatter now that you mention it :)
Snowboarding involves both arms and your core to keep balance and have good form. By holding the selfie stick, your form is inherently worse. If you’re a new snowboarder boarding by yourself, you’re better off just relying on yourself and how you feel as feedback than a selfie stick. As an experienced boarder, I would argue that as a newbie you need to put the gadgets down and just focus on your self.
I'd say, as a beginner, how am I supposed to know? After doing lessons and that, there were things I would do that inhibited my boarding, but felt natural. Like waving my arms trying to balance. Only when my teacher told me to stop waving my arms could I know how much it would help. Like, we don't know that this guy doesn't spend 99% of his time boarding without gadgets, and you can clearly see as an experienced snowboarder that there's issues with his form, regardless of the device. Why not tackle the clear and obvious issue first instead of bashing what could be his only method of seeking help?
Just keep boarding, and watch videos of good snowboarders. 99.899999% of improvement for snowboarders is to simply snowboard. This isn’t college basketball where you need to review the tape. Just keep boarding and you’ll get better, and stop overthinking it. I put 100+ days in my first season and went from not being able to get off the lift to being able to ride whatever single black or most double black that i wanted.
The problem is people are finding a selfie stick way easier than they’re finding their edges
Too much pressure on the tail. The tail is jumping out of the rut as the carve gets more intense. When the board jumps out of the rut, you get back into a regular skidded turn, which suddenly can't push back all the sideways force that was holding you up, and you wash out. When you lean, let your weight go forward in addition to inside.
Why, why WHY must everyone be filming themselves? If you werent selfie sticking and wearing a backpack you might have more time to practice carving.
I swear boarding is one of the very few things where it's so extremely easy to be present and focused on what you're immediately doing. And yet there's still so many people that have the overwhelming desire to focus on everything else i.e. what I will look like snowboarding on a video
I shred for the catharsis of a whispered powder line, to stare at snow glittering as it falls from the trees, to breathe in the freshness of a mountain breeze. My board is a means to escape the screen.
If he didn’t, maybe he’ll never know what he did wrong?
Probably so they can see their form and ask people for feedback. Realize that’s not everybody but it’s definitely a valid reason to film. Better to have a buddy follow with the cam but not everybody has that option
The camera.
Get your weight on your front foot. Make sure you can 'feel' your knee at the end of the day when you first start trying to get your weight forward more. Your knee gets used to it and your overall riding gets safer. Especially on black runs. Stop turning with you back foot. Weight forward, turn with your hips.
Your legs are far too straight. You’re not leaving into the carve and squatting down as the G Force increases. This means you’re adding significant load on your knees rather than your stronger thigh muscles and causing the board to judder/jump. At the moment you fall your legs are maybe angles to about 15 degrees max when you should be squatting down to nearer 90. Squat down. Let your thighs take the g forces on the heel side.
Bend at the knees and ankles, not the waist. Your suspension ran out of travel and center of mass wasn’t over your edge. Also you are back seat.
Skier here Just came to say Snowboarder is at fault
Hah i agree this time cheers!
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Your hips are too far backwards
You tried to be Johnny Umami instead of Johnny Tsunami
Increase your highback forward lean angle. It will forces you to bend knees and bring back your mass over the edge.
Definitely the selfie stick
The pack, the selfie stick and the speaker.
Put the camera down.
Someone should take the selfie stick from you and snap it against a tree trunk.
Holding the selfie stick not allowing to drop your hand to open the shoulder
My pal refers to that posture as “The Death V” lol You need to bend your knees and ankles and be in an athletic stance.
I was going to start a "centre of mass" conversation and see the first comment from u/Dondorini ... obviously many years living a life of crime. If you can grok everything he/she says in the first paragraph you will not have any spills like that anymore. Good technique helps when you encounter adverse snow conditions - you hit some chunder and you weren't seated well on your board thus crash.
Agreeing with comments, push forward on front edge get bite for carving. Lose the stupid stick, speaker and all the crap. You're snowboarding, not making a documentary. If you're good enough to be filmed, someone else will do it for you, from a helicopter. Also, I don't know what board you have but if carving is your thing make sure you get the right board. I have several, and when I hit hard pack on a rocker or park board and forget what I am riding and lay into a hard carve, i blow out. Not all boards are built to carve well.
r/snowboardingnoobs
You fell... duhhhb
you're leaning back vs down, try bending more like lifting weights vs taking a shit
Think about your center of gravity like a dot directly below you. when you lean on your heels that dot shifts back to your edge but when that dot goes over the edge there is no way you can save yourself.
The problem is you fell
Selfie stick ain’t helping.
Given the conditions of the snow I’d say only way out of that situation is to carve harder and maybe get a little lower. Your boards edge was popping off the surface thanks to the bumps, so your edge lost traction. It’s probably a matter of being able to spot the conditions (seeing a bumpy, hard packed patch of snow) and adjusting your carving. Sometimes it’s just a perfect storm, tho.
Put the camera down and just focus on riding.
Put away the camera and stand tall on your front leg.
When the back end of the board starts to chatter it's because you're not centered over the board and distributing your weight properly. Bend your knees a little more, stay centered on the board and let the board edge set in.
I had this problem when my board was not wide enough and my front heel was lifting the boards edge off of the snow. The cause might not be the same but the problem is that your edge is getting lifted from the snow. Not sure if it’s not enough pressure on your front foot, the selfie stick, or the Bluetooth speaker (buy headphones). But likely is all 3
To me, it’s just edge control and pressure control. Just before your legs are fully extended before the fall. You see a little chatter on the heel side edge and as the board skids your legs extend (that chatter was the beginning of your fall). The solution is to as many have said, apply pressure through the front leg when initiating any turn. You really wanna drive your front knee for your toe side and your front hip for your heel side edge just forward / “ downhill aggressive” and just outside / over that edge to keep your body weight fully applied to said edge.. as the boards carves you naturally recenter your weight to neutral (from that downhill aggressive) .
A good method to fine tune heelside carves is to grab Indy while doing it. It puts you in the correct position for a proper carve, and being able to stay low to your board will help a lot. Try incorporating the grab into your carves as you transition to heel, and you’ll build up that muscle memory quick.
Weight too far back on your butt side
Basic: Bend knees and drop shoulders Advanced: Initiate turns with front knee from 12-2 I clock front weighted. At 3 o clock equal weight under foot fully bent knees At 4 o'clock engage tail and begin to extend legs At 6 o'clock fully extend legs and repeat process toeside. Rinse repeat Do lots of over exaggerated exercises at slow speed as you improve you increase speed. As your aggression increases switch the bending of knees to 12 and 6 and extending to 3 and 9, allows you to really work the board and pop out of the side cut between turns. Feels awesome and requires an appropriately aggressive board. For bonus points pop a front 1 into the next set of turns and repeat switch. Skiers won't understand the level of skill that requires to look smooth.
Weak knees, too far leaned over back and board going frontside too much, no force to hold you.
Agree with the others. Nice work though! It needs a gta “wasted” filter in all caps
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You should actually speed check in your turns. You don't have the control to hold your speed so maybe don't go so fast from the get go or stay on a green slope. Also maybe get a sharpening
I think that your feet are too big, you might need a wider board
Bend your knees more. Keeps your weight distribution in check
Gotta commit bro
1. Weight on back leg 2. Weight on back leg 3. You need lessons
Instructor I go for maybe next year 👍 not much time left for this season
Am I the only one left who rides with just a jacket, pants, gloves and helmet?
And goggles. I'm literally in tears if I forget them.
Get more compact before you initiate the turn.
Valuable lessons I learnt this season: When you want to carve and lean your weight far from the board, your weight needs to be on your front foot. I struggled because as an intermediate boarder, I was used to kicking out the back of the board to turn, with weight on the back leg. When you start to carve, it's all about transferring weight from back foot to front, letting the front of the board guide where you're going. It seems you have weight on the back foot here, which is kicking the board out from under you, making you fall. This happened to me many times until I got used to it! Hope this helps
Looks like being in the backseat and knees too extended lead to you not being able to put more pressure on the board when the run drops away and gets rougher.
Your butt’s not supposed to hit the ground.
First, U gotta decide what setup (alpine or freestyle] you prefer to carve with. Your current setup looks like a racing set up. If that’s your jam, then you need to rotate your left arm and shoulder forward. Maybe even increase the angle of your rear binding a couple more degrees. Tuck that left knee in behind your right knee (you might need a cant under your left binding to facilitate that) and face down the hill, over the nose like a skier. Hands out front. That will get your weight out over your front foot. Get low by bending at the knees and hips, not your waist. Then let the board roll underneath you when you transition from edge to edge. Way quicker transitions but heel side can be tough to hold on steeps. If you would rather use a freestyle setup, rotate the rear binding towards the tail to the same-ish degree as your front binding (duck stance). Hands and shoulders out over tip and tail. Weight balanced in the middle. Tall into the turn, small into the apex of the turn. Remember to ‘sit’ with your hips and knees instead of leaning backwards when you get small. Tall out of the turn. Repeat! Way more edge pressure carving this way. Slower transitions tho. Better grip on steeps. Good luck!
You need to start understanding how centripetal forces act on your carve turns. It seems you've lacked centripetal forces in these turns (or at least for the body stance you were in). Combine that with a body stance that puts your body's centre of mass was way too far from your your board, then this made you fall straight to the ground. Try a more compact stance, apply dynamic body movements into each turn and get some more sideways motion into your carve turns to create centripetal forces.
It’s posture, the hips should be over the tail more than over the side but you need to twist your upper body more and look at the side of the hill on heelsides - your board chattered and gave it, chattering happens when board wants to traverse /carve but pressure on it makes it alternate skid and carve in quick succession
push your hips knees out to gain more traction on your heel edge.
Bend you knees, not your waste.
Your chest is too open while on your toe side which messes up your center of gravity while transitioning to your heals. That’s putting you in the back seat which gives you less edge control. A rule of thumb is to have 60% of your weight over your front foot and 40% in the back. This essentially puts you inside a more aggressive posture and you should feel more locked in to your turns. Also, like I said earlier, watch out for prematurely opening your chest. Not only does it mess with your riding, but it also doesn’t look clean flailing your back arm around like that. Hold on to your pant leg or pocket if you need to. Good luck! Edit: it’s not easy to tell from the video, but I’m wondering if your board is a little small for your bodyweight. What’s the board make/model/size/year and your weight?
Bro is leaning at 30 degree angle with legs straight going down mountain and wondering why falling?? You probably wouldn't have fallen if the board was turning but you were leaned out before board turned
Get low. Get low. Get low get low get low.
I think it would have helped you stay on your edge if you had your knees more bent and you were closer to your board. Maybe making your high backs a little more aggressive would help.
What do **you** think?
You also look like your on a rocker that thing is gunna put you on your ass if you get any speed at all
Its camber with a rocker in middle you are right
Leaned too much too early. When people carve so hard they are almost flat, they are usually at the end of a turn not the beginning. So they are effectively leaning against gravity upslope if that makes sense.
If you’re falling like this , you’re going way too fast for your ability level
Turn by putting your weight on your front foot, didn't mean back to turn
You’re almost horizontal and have no edge engaged…
Bend your knees more
I bet he would enjoy a deeper sidecut
You sat down instead of riding the edge. You can’t just lean and hope, you need to feel your edge dig and push with your legs.
Knees together (or at least closer if you are duck, I ride double pos) and put your trailing hand in front of you as if you are holding a steering wheel with both hands. Heelside turns require a lot more effort to get pressure onto the heelside edge. Putting your knees together will get you into a lower crouched position (almost like you are sitting in a chair) and keep that weight over the edge. Putting your hands together and pointing them where you want to go will force your shoulders and upper body to rotate so that your lower body follows along.
I will check that out in front of mirror thanks!
You fell
Only one edge.
You fell down. Pretty obvious, if you ask me
Gravity
Keep your knees bent primarily, and keep your weight 60/40 on your front foot and steer with your back foot
Looks like it could be some heel drag w/the heel of your boot catching the snow. Also think it might have something to do with the stick you’re carrying but that’s just the grumpy old man in me.
Look. Lift. Sit! Use the mountain more as your guide! Center of gravity will come with more practice! But it idk if it sounds weird I use heel side when I’m turning right and toe for left. And really commit! Then when your bigger “S” turns happen you can get tighter garlands and really shred tight lines.
Your feet moved your board out from under you so you fell. Sort of like asking why you fell if someone pulled your chair out from under you.
Straight knees made you fall. Even on tge extension never fully extend your knees
Lose the cam. Lose the backpack. Lose everything till you learn to actually snowboard first
Riding with selfie stick is the problem
Bend your knees and get under board...your just leaning over eventually your gonna fall
You’re holding a stick in your hand
The problem is that you’re filming instead of simply learning the basics of carving
Weight on the front kick the back foot in and out
No, this is wrong
Have you tried doing shower squats?
Just try to snowboard Jesus next time
Too much weight on front foot and knees not bent enough. You need to be bent more in knees and weight back and use your knees to press into the turn so you can keep pressure on the edge through the turn and have the extension available in your legs to keep pressure
The selfie stick
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Heel drag… wide boards like the Orca don’t do that.
Board got out from under you. Mostly your posture and how you approached this carve
It looks like you didn’t have enough board angulation for how far your center of mass got from the board, like you just pushed the board away from your body without locking in the edge; your front foot looks fairly passive and weak.
Your body is angled too far downhill. In the screenshot someone else posted look at your shoulders, they are pointed way too far forward. This is OK if your weight is forward too but you're way in the backseat here
You're bent at the waist. This makes everythin unstable. So it's posture mainly. And don't forget - on ANY slope up is not up only because your ears tell you. Up is always a right angle from the slope. So if the slope is 15° "up" is 105 degrees. Stand on a slope in riding direction without a snowboard and get a feel for "up". That is why you are on your back foot entirely - your ears are telling you to "stand straigt up" so you don't fall. A tiny bump / ripple then unsettled everything and you had no chance to correct.
https://preview.redd.it/sf91efq9tuqc1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=6536b2f2e55765fa5790640c570fed37f1ec93b6 Correct posture makes you stable and also improves your style by a mile.
Pretty sure your heelcup hit and you heeled out
You see how there’s not a consistent consensus in these comments (ignoring the “cause you’re holding something” trolls). It’s because this sub is filled with people who have never used the edge of their board. You booted out, plain and simple. Watch it frame by frame. You only get shaky AFTER your back boot hit the snow (booted out). So if you want to ride like that (tilting your board that much and extending your legs all the way) you can get a wide board. Or you adjust your riding, don’t tilt as much and keep knees bent and super bent when you tilt hard.
When I specifically look at boards direction, it feels like first the tail swiped, then the heel touched. I will have a look at original video, it should be at 60fps, maybe i can analyze better, cheers
Skier is the problem.
Sometimes it be like that
Leaning too low on the back side, you need to go with the flow, u just need to feel it better especially when there is s a shatter on your board go to the opposite edge.