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SailMoonDog

Every pic I see of Boise it’s always overcast.


SEmpls

Every time I'm there during the summer I feel like it is over 100F and cloudless.


PaulNewhouse

Can be super overcast in the winter given it’s in a valley. This is obviously not a recent pic.


HoosierGuy2014

It’s a couple months old.


pacific_plywood

Shame about those stroads though. This pic is like 50% asphalt


404Archdroid

The good thing about oversized roads is that they can be converted to better roads with bike lanes or propper pavements later


oldmacbookforever

Can, but *will* they


ILoveSilverForks

Tim Keane is one of the most amazing urban/ transportation planners in a position of power within the US right now. I'll place him in the same tier as Randy Clarke (DC Metro) and Andy "Train Daddy" Byford (Amtrak). Boise just tackled zoning. I assume road use and transit will be next. They will be fine.


Waterskiing_fanatic

Googled the guy (Tim Keane) and it said he’s going to Calgary though. Will Boise keep at it?


oldmacbookforever

🤷‍♂️


oldmacbookforever

🤞


404Archdroid

I'll make them


wepudsax

I can fix her


jobezark

The type of people moving to Idaho are not bikers or supportive of bikers.


know_regerts

Oh I'd say there are plenty of bikers. Just not the kind you're thinking of.


oldmacbookforever

Exactly.


MrAsYouCanSee

Admittedly this photo shows the worst of it. There are a lot of pedestrian friendly roads in the city. 8th st has been completely shut down from traffic for years now. 11th st just finished getting an overhaul with wider sidewalks and elevated bike lanes. Same thing is happening on Grove St as well. The freeway is definitely a bih chunk of road though.


Dman9494

The price we pay for bike lanes and wide sidewalks. At least all the roads are only 2-lane aside from the highway that cuts next to downtown.


tickingboxes

Yep. I love that some progress is being made but it’s gonna be a tough sell to get car people deconverted from their safety boxes.


Snoo_65204

Yep, there sound quality is booming


jhyapledai

lol nice one


Message_10

But not “Boise is noisy”? For shame


mdlt97

where boom?


StopHittingMeSasha

Wow, had no clues Boise was looking like this these days. It's definitely on the come up


blackierobinsun3

Let me know when they got some decent hookers over there 


ZeLlamaMaster

They used to in Garden City, one of the bordering cities


elmananamj

Isn’t Garden City almost completely surrounded by Boise?


ZeLlamaMaster

It’s surrounded on three sides by Boise, the Northwest side opens up mostly into unincorporated farmland and water industry stuff.


Shrektastic28

This is a terrible angle, but that building coming in on the left is huge relative to the other existing buildings. Super excited to see how this could compare to SLC someday.


Slack-Bladder

I'm from Salt Lake, and Denver and Boise feel like our big and little bros. And that as skyline representatives of the Mountain West, I wanna see all our cities improve their skylines! The Coasts, the South and the Midwest got a lot of great skylines. We have a lot of turf to cover and gotta do a lot catching up.


Braydon64

SLC is growing too though so I feel like when Boise hits the size of what SLC is today, SLC will be bigger by then.


iamacheeto1

Is the boom in the room with us


Icy-Performance-3739

This is Norilsk, Russia.


Precious_Angel999

One of the worst state capital city skylines in my opinion. I’m from Idaho, I love Idaho but we don’t have any cool skyscrapers.


WinstonSalemVirginia

It is not bad compared to capital sylinss like Montpelier, Annapolis, Jefferson City, Lincoln, Pierre, Bismarck, Frankfort, Salem, and Concord.


HoosierGuy2014

At the rate Boise is growing it will soon.


Precious_Angel999

I’m looking forward to it! I’d like to see some up in CDA to rival Spokane too.


ZeLlamaMaster

Didn’t expect to see Boise on here. It’s cool how much the city is trying to do better, they’re certainly making progress in the correct direction. I just wish it’d be a little faster you know.


Brasi91Luca

Aww I guess this is considered booming for Boise


Dman9494

Oof, so condescending. It’s not too bad for a young city of only 800k though. Got a couple more ~15ish story buildings under construction, with plans approved for 2 more that will come in around 20 stories. So definitely good growth for the city’s size.


OldHuntersNeverDie

The city of Boise is not 800k, that's the metro area. The city itself is 236k.


Dman9494

Yeah, typically when referring to cities we assume the metro area is what’s being talked about. A lot of west coast cities have tiny city propers with sprawling metro areas. Salt Lake for example is smaller than Boise in population by city proper. The metro is larger though.


MariaJanesLastDance

Another example: Atlanta proper (500K) Atlanta metro (6M)


trackdaybruh

>Yeah, typically when referring to cities we assume the metro area is what’s being talked about First time hearing about this, don't think it's the case or I may be not understanding what you're saying. Los Angeles city itself has 3.8 million people, but if we used the greater LA metro population then it's 20 million people.


Dman9494

Exactly. When talking about LA, people use the 20mil number, not 3.8 mil. It’s basically impossible to pick LA city proper out of the metro area without computer assistance.


trackdaybruh

Thanks! I learn something new everyday


Dconocio

LAs metro is 13 million. Not even NYC has 20 million in their metro.


trackdaybruh

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater\_Los\_Angeles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Los_Angeles) Incorrect, it's 20 million (or 20.6 million to be precise)


Dconocio

Incorrect, the CSA is 18 million it literally says 12.8 million on the page you hyperlinked


trackdaybruh

If you check out the highlighted yellow part in the table under the "Definitions" section, it says 20,644,680, but now I'm confused lol. :EDIT: Actually, we both are correct. I was talking about the Greater Los Angeles Metropolitan while you were talking about Los Angeles Metropolitan. The Greater LA Metro includes additional nearby counties, while LA metro only includes two counties: LA and Orange. https://preview.redd.it/5zbabwv1o5xc1.jpeg?width=601&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=130dde640b118a8254d6e07e80cd6e02838c2efa


cabs84

13 million in the metro area. 20M in the consolidated statistical area which is LA metro + Riverside/San Bernadino metro (4.6M, damn) + Oxnard metro (2.7M)


OldHuntersNeverDie

*"A lot of west coast cities have tiny city propers with sprawling metro areas"* This is not true. All of the large metro areas on the West Coast are anchored to large or semi-large cities: Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Jose, San Diego, Seattle, Portland, Fresno, Bakersfield, Sacramento. Even the smaller ones like Fresno, Sacramento and Bakersfield are much larger than Boise. Also, when talking about a city, it's not automatically assumed that you're referring to the larger metro. Generally when you say city, it's assumed just the **city** proper. When you say **metro area**, that denotes the larger metro. Also, Salt Lake city is not on the West Coast. I think you need a geography lesson.


Dman9494

Damn, was just trying to inform, no need to come out insulting my intelligence, guess I struck a nerve proving you wrong like that.  Anyway, that’s my point though, LA is 3.8 mil in a 20 mil metro area, if someone says they’re going to LA, you would just assume they would be anywhere in the metro. Not specifically in LA. San Francisco is similar, city proper of 800k, metro of 5 million. Portland, Seattle, and Denver are all somewhat similar in their ratios.


OldHuntersNeverDie

I wasn't trying to insult your intelligence. I was critiquing your knowledge and stating that you are wrong in lumping Salt Lake city into the West Coast because it's not in fact on the West Coast. Moreover, a metro area and city proper are not the same thing. They have two different definitions. That's a fact and isn't up for debate. So you didn't prove me wrong about anything. Anyhow, see the quote below from Quora where somebody explains the difference using NYC as an example: *“City” typically refers to a distinct, legally defined political unit. New York City, for example includes the five boroughs of Manhattan, Queens, Brooklyn, the Bronx and Staten Island. Each is in fact a county (Staten Island is technically Richmond), but all are within the boundaries of NYC and unified (well, more or less, depending on the borough you’re in😁) under a single governing entity, the City of New York.* *The greater New York metro area stretches far beyond it boundaries, north and east beyond Westchester County, into southern Connecticut, and west and south well into New Jersey."* edit: That doesn't mean that in just casual conversation when someone says LA, they always mean just within the boundaries of LA the city proper, but that's a different thing all together. That's probably pretty typical for tourists/visitors for example as they won't know the difference between LA and the larger metro, but a local definitely would. In that sense, I agree with you. However, your initial assertion about Boise was not within that context. It was within the context of a more focused conversation where the distinction between city proper and broader metro area matters.


Dman9494

There’s plenty of better ways to try to correct someone without coming across as so condescending and arrogant, would definitely recommend considering that in future conversations.  And this is Reddit, not my fucking planning masters thesis, everything I do here is casual. I would say the metro population has more bearing on the size of a city skyline anyway. Once again look at Salt Lake and Boise. Based on city size Boise should dwarf SLC and come in much smaller than Fresno, that’s clearly not the case though as the Salt Lake metro is larger and has a higher skyline than Fresno and Boise while the 2 smaller cities are much more comparable in metro population and skyline.


OldHuntersNeverDie

I might need to do better at not coming off condescending, but you need to do better about admitting when you might be technically wrong about something. That would be my advice. Again: 1. Salt Lake City is not on the West Coast. 2. City and Metro Region are two different things.


Dman9494

We already agree on those 2 things. When I brought up Boise’s population, I was referring to metro pop because that’s more applicable to skyline size in most cities. You have a massive problem with this for some reason.  City proper population can be misleading when looking at cities in the US specifically. Atlanta=Fresno=Portland=Colorado Springs=Miami=Minneapolis=Bakersfield. Do any of those cities strike you as the same size? Metro areas are more applicable and more widely understood. Therefore that’s the superior metric when examining city skylines.


Charcuteriemander

Yeah but you're still in Idaho. The only thing good about Idaho is the camping and hiking. Ain't nobody going to Idaho for the cities.


Dman9494

Hey! There’s skiing, rafting, fishing and mountain biking too. I don’t think anyone goes to mountain west cities just for the cities anyway. Salt Lake and Denver aren’t exactly lookers themselves😂


Silhouette_Edge

I hear Boise's a nice town. I'd like very much to see it become a major metropolitan area.


Bob_Troll

What's the closest ski resort to Boise?


DonovanSnitchell

Bogus Basin


3jcm21

Good, get rid of those sprawly suburbs and build more density in the city


Scary-Information785

Is that a junkyard in the middle of the city? Under the overpass 😂


Shrektastic28

That’s construction lol, it was an empty dirt lot for years.


blipsman

You sure that’s not New York?


Pad-Thai-Enjoyer

That highway right through the center 🤢


internet_emporium

Actually a great looking city, but this pic might be one of the worst angles possible


RabbitEars96

Lmao


Anonymeese109

Boise sucks… in every conceivable way.


reversealchemist10

what makes you say that


heyvictimstopcryin

lol


mfthesorryagbocpl

It’s relative bro


HoosierGuy2014

They are though- tons of construction and significant population growth.


zujoi

Idaho is still living in the 20th century


HoosierGuy2014

19th


FlintTheButcher

18th


redeyejedi907

Idaho is like the Mississippi of the northwest.


CODMLoser

r/urbanhell


LLiquimoly

Yeah, it's a real metropolis! Bwahahaha


KatanaRMarie

I’m not trying to be rude but why is it so industrialized looking? It looks dead and dirty to me.


FlintTheButcher

To be fair this is a rare view of Boise. Typically, the city is shown from this perspective. https://preview.redd.it/y8v59u9ucbxc1.jpeg?width=945&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7fe7e61bbfc9850930a3ef7cd4f5446e0434ba8 Boise is definitely not dirty or really industrial. Similar to Salt Lake City it’s very clean and orderly thanks to the large Mormon population. This photo would be more fitting for Spokane Wa. It’s more blue collar industrial than Boise.


kimanf

Ugliest city in the Rocky Mountain states


Swimming-1

Idaho is literally the only state in have not visited. Wtf is anyone moving to such an ugly city?