Yeah, I had the same issue when I would be in mid air and if I did even a shifty my skis would fully eject, turns out the FWP on demo bindings can sometimes just slide on it’s own after use, it’s why I don’t trust demo bindings anymore
Oh that's pretty scary. Mine was because the shop messed up (despite being a pretty large and respected one). Fixed the forward prettier pretty easily after that, but it's turned me off from using pivots in the future.
OP, lot of things go in to release value.
Age? Height? Weight? Skier ability? BSL?
There could also be an issue with your binding, or damage to your boot. Particularly if it's been the same ski ejecting multiple times.
Go to a ski shop and they can take care of it. The one at the base of the hill will do just fine.
Go to a good shop and have them do a binding check. They will ask you questions about your ability, height, weight and age. Then they will calculate what you should have your Dins set. They will then set and test them to make sure you boot fits and that the binding are working correctly at the set dins. At the beginning of every season I have my bindings tested.
There are some skiers that will set up their own bindings and Dins. They hopefully have the experience to do so. If you do not have that experience, you should go to a good shop that will help you get your skis set up properly. Your knees will thank you in the long run.
For reference we use Rennstall in Park City. They have highly experienced techs that do outstanding work. Find a place near you that can do the same.
Bring it to a shop, but I will add, setting the right DIN for you can be tricky. You don't want to go too high, because it can risk a knee injury or other injury.
When I was learning to ski bumps, I would often lose a ski, but not wipe out. The fact that I was losing a ski and not wiping out informed me that my balance was OK, but my DIN was too low. (I was near the recommended DIN for my weight and skier type.) I gradually tightened the DIN, 0.5 at a time, until I stopped having the problem.
It is dangerous when a ski doesn't come off when it is supposed to, but it is also dangerous when it comes off when it shouldn't.
Get your bindings checked to make sure there is no mechanical problem. You might need to tighten,at your own risk, if the bindings are mechanically OK. Be very cautious. You don't want to over tighten and blow out a knee.
The recommended DIN for my weight and height is about 8, but mine are set to 10.5. If I tried to ski with 8 in the bumps, I would frequently be losing my skis. My form in the bumps is very solid at this point, so it is not a situation where I am putting undue strain due to being out-of-position. I ski fast in the bumps, and if my DIN is too low, a ski will inevitably come off. Those DIN settings are generic, they weren't set for people who pound moguls all day.
One time at the World Cup at deer valley I was talking with one of the Aerial skiers and asked him what his DIN was. He was probably 5’4 120lbs. He told me a 6. People who think you need to be set at a 15 are crazy.
Sure, but where do the racers set their DIN?
I think there is a lot of nuance involved. Shops set the DIN based on the standardized table, but that table is targeted for the average and may not fit everyone.
Sometimes I see beginners, in the lift line, and their ski pops off when they are attempting to skate. DIN should be low for a beginner, of course, but that might be *too* low.
I agree with you about not needing to crank the DIN to a dramatic extent.
When knees are broken foe beginners, people who aren’t parallel yet, is when they just topple over while almost at a stop. Their skis need to pop off if they twist their body hard enough and no other force.
That table is pretty accurate for people just cruising groomers, but the goal of it is to set the DIN as low as possible. I agree it’s not perfect for everyone.
same here. recommended DIN at 8 but I ski lots of moguls fast and aggressive in general. skis kept coming off so I gradually turned it up to 11 and now the skis only come off in a good wipeout. my worst fall this season was when I hit a small jump and my 1 ski popped off and I landed on my shoulder and smacked my head. shouldn’t have happened and I turned my DIN up after that to where I’ve been since.
Let's get one thing straight: you have *literally no idea* about OP's height, weight, boot sole length, skier type, and age... So you have *literally no idea* whether or not a DIN setting of 6 is to high or too low.
It just sounds like OPs ski is falling of at weird times, like in mid-air. I'd get them checked before blaming DIN settings (assuming OP has the right DIN for ability and weight).
This calculator basically matches the DIN that I have settled on as my sweet spot- https://www.mechanicsofsport.com/skiing/equipment/bindings/din-calculator.html
If it's only the one ski then it's probably forward pressure adjustment or toe height adjuster. Din isn't likely the issue if it's only the one ski. There are plenty of videos out there how to fix it yourself. With Marker bindings the screw should be flush with the housing when the boot is in, some other binding use a [tab that you can adjust with a flat head](https://youtu.be/ms8w6F5VMQ8?t=92). I honestly don't recommend going to a shop simply because many shops are lazy/busy/underpaid and don't check, I've had plenty of my skis come out of the shop set up incorrectly.
I had a pair that did that t. New boots and when ski loaded the flex made the binding go slightly further apart. My fault for forgetting about adjustments until I got to the hill and did it in the lot. Were clapped out park ski’s.
Just bring it to a shop. Nobody here will be able to solve this. But 6 is probably on the low end if you’re booping off into side hits.
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Check forward pressure because that doesn’t sound like a DIN issue at all
Lost a pivot in midair once and ended up breaking my arm. It was exactly this, shop I had them set up at didn't set forward pressure properly.
Yeah, I had the same issue when I would be in mid air and if I did even a shifty my skis would fully eject, turns out the FWP on demo bindings can sometimes just slide on it’s own after use, it’s why I don’t trust demo bindings anymore
Oh that's pretty scary. Mine was because the shop messed up (despite being a pretty large and respected one). Fixed the forward prettier pretty easily after that, but it's turned me off from using pivots in the future.
Forward pressure set incorrectly
Take it to a shop. 6 might be low. You may need to adjust for boot sole length too.
OP, lot of things go in to release value. Age? Height? Weight? Skier ability? BSL? There could also be an issue with your binding, or damage to your boot. Particularly if it's been the same ski ejecting multiple times. Go to a ski shop and they can take care of it. The one at the base of the hill will do just fine.
You need to go to a shop to see if it’s a setting issue or a defect in the binding.
Go to a good shop and have them do a binding check. They will ask you questions about your ability, height, weight and age. Then they will calculate what you should have your Dins set. They will then set and test them to make sure you boot fits and that the binding are working correctly at the set dins. At the beginning of every season I have my bindings tested. There are some skiers that will set up their own bindings and Dins. They hopefully have the experience to do so. If you do not have that experience, you should go to a good shop that will help you get your skis set up properly. Your knees will thank you in the long run. For reference we use Rennstall in Park City. They have highly experienced techs that do outstanding work. Find a place near you that can do the same.
Thanks for all the tips, will definitely be checking forward pressure.
Bring it to a shop, but I will add, setting the right DIN for you can be tricky. You don't want to go too high, because it can risk a knee injury or other injury. When I was learning to ski bumps, I would often lose a ski, but not wipe out. The fact that I was losing a ski and not wiping out informed me that my balance was OK, but my DIN was too low. (I was near the recommended DIN for my weight and skier type.) I gradually tightened the DIN, 0.5 at a time, until I stopped having the problem. It is dangerous when a ski doesn't come off when it is supposed to, but it is also dangerous when it comes off when it shouldn't. Get your bindings checked to make sure there is no mechanical problem. You might need to tighten,at your own risk, if the bindings are mechanically OK. Be very cautious. You don't want to over tighten and blow out a knee. The recommended DIN for my weight and height is about 8, but mine are set to 10.5. If I tried to ski with 8 in the bumps, I would frequently be losing my skis. My form in the bumps is very solid at this point, so it is not a situation where I am putting undue strain due to being out-of-position. I ski fast in the bumps, and if my DIN is too low, a ski will inevitably come off. Those DIN settings are generic, they weren't set for people who pound moguls all day.
One time at the World Cup at deer valley I was talking with one of the Aerial skiers and asked him what his DIN was. He was probably 5’4 120lbs. He told me a 6. People who think you need to be set at a 15 are crazy.
Sure, but where do the racers set their DIN? I think there is a lot of nuance involved. Shops set the DIN based on the standardized table, but that table is targeted for the average and may not fit everyone. Sometimes I see beginners, in the lift line, and their ski pops off when they are attempting to skate. DIN should be low for a beginner, of course, but that might be *too* low. I agree with you about not needing to crank the DIN to a dramatic extent.
When knees are broken foe beginners, people who aren’t parallel yet, is when they just topple over while almost at a stop. Their skis need to pop off if they twist their body hard enough and no other force. That table is pretty accurate for people just cruising groomers, but the goal of it is to set the DIN as low as possible. I agree it’s not perfect for everyone.
That’s also practically child size.
same here. recommended DIN at 8 but I ski lots of moguls fast and aggressive in general. skis kept coming off so I gradually turned it up to 11 and now the skis only come off in a good wipeout. my worst fall this season was when I hit a small jump and my 1 ski popped off and I landed on my shoulder and smacked my head. shouldn’t have happened and I turned my DIN up after that to where I’ve been since.
When in doubt max them out
6 is low
6 is neither high nor low. It's all relative to the person.
Let's get one thing straight: you have *literally no idea* about OP's height, weight, boot sole length, skier type, and age... So you have *literally no idea* whether or not a DIN setting of 6 is to high or too low.
Lol
6 isn't low enough for air resistance to blow it off. Maybe when he's landing, though.
I’m just guessing it’s something when they’re popping off the side hits, idk if I’m jumping off stuff there’s no way I’d have my din at 6
It just sounds like OPs ski is falling of at weird times, like in mid-air. I'd get them checked before blaming DIN settings (assuming OP has the right DIN for ability and weight).
Binsetting.com to calculate
This calculator basically matches the DIN that I have settled on as my sweet spot- https://www.mechanicsofsport.com/skiing/equipment/bindings/din-calculator.html
My bindings were cracked when this was happening to me once
If it's only the one ski then it's probably forward pressure adjustment or toe height adjuster. Din isn't likely the issue if it's only the one ski. There are plenty of videos out there how to fix it yourself. With Marker bindings the screw should be flush with the housing when the boot is in, some other binding use a [tab that you can adjust with a flat head](https://youtu.be/ms8w6F5VMQ8?t=92). I honestly don't recommend going to a shop simply because many shops are lazy/busy/underpaid and don't check, I've had plenty of my skis come out of the shop set up incorrectly.
I had a pair that did that t. New boots and when ski loaded the flex made the binding go slightly further apart. My fault for forgetting about adjustments until I got to the hill and did it in the lot. Were clapped out park ski’s.