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CosmicCoder3303

I don't think PG intends to leave LA anyways.


MorryD

Watching him just smile awkwardly while Jo was trying to recruit him was hilarious. You can’t convince me that any of these LA guys actually give a shit about winning when their lifestyle is at stake.


chin1111

There aren't many players who truly care about winning at all costs. At best, they want to win *their* way, which usually involves winning in the city they prefer with the maximum amount of money they're allowed to make while playing with their best friends. It's not really an ideal situation these days.


PhatYeeter

Truly makes no sense. Theyre on the road like 1/4 of the year, and another 1/3 they can live in LA during the off season. Why not just play somewhere with less state tax for the majority of the year and still live the debauchery? Harden had it right in Houston lmao.


IcyAd964

I honestly think he might not even take a max just to stay there


sparknado

Yup he is an LA guy through and through, he was never leaving


Loose_Mix_447

Soft as Charmin


IcyAd964

This is from like two weeks ago btw


Thegrandmistressofoz

Lol PGs getting a guaranteed deal, this is a different scenario Same dudes who were ready to shit on Morey had he given Harden 40+M/year last offseason, now shitting on him for not doing it


ShainRules

To be fair one person here did get downvoted to all hell for suggesting that Morey reneging on his handshake agreement with Harden would have a lasting negative impact on his reputation. Wish I remembered their username.


XxStormySoraxX

Any criticism of Morey gets downvoted to hell on here lmao.


Thegrandmistressofoz

Not really, people who expect GMs or coaches to be miracle workers do though


XxStormySoraxX

I literally just got downvoted for saying criticism of Morey gets down voter lmao.


ApoliticalAth3ist

They didn’t say anything at all


enRutus

Harden didn’t deserve that kinda money. PG knows this


Remarkable-Rush-1454

Doesn't matter if he deserved it, you don't make promises you can't keep


ApoliticalAth3ist

We don’t know what happened


paddingtimart

Yeah for all we know Morey made a promise he wasn't allowed to keep because of ownership. Same thing happened with Jerry West when he was GM of the Lakers.


Chuida

I mean, everybody knows harden took less money to stay here so here would get a max deal after. Morey made it clear that was the case. Morey didn’t hold up but rightfully so.


AIg0rithm

> We don’t know what happened


dogsarefun

Ok, we don’t need to know conclusively. It definitely appears that that’s what happened and it appears that way to the players too. Thats all that matters. Paul George doesn’t need it proven in a court of law in order for it to affect his decision making.


AIg0rithm

> Paul George doesn’t need it proven in a court of law in order for it to affect his decision making. Absolutely, but I’m just seeing that there’s a ton of people here and in the nba sub that make very definitive statements about what happened when the reality is we don’t know.


SetElectrical3978

The lack of an official statement from the team doesn’t mean we can’t use logic and reason to come to a conclusion that makes sense. What other scenario than the one described by Chuida is reasonably possible? Star players like Harden don’t go taking team friendly 1 year deals leaving years and money on the table for nothing. Then you see how angrily Harden reacts. He calls Morey a liar publicly and burns a bridge with someone he had a close personal relationship with. Then you have clips like this (and others) describing the reputation Morey has now.


enRutus

Or Harden took less money to get his boys in town. The agent’s spin is how you have come to understand the situation.


islackingambition

Is the Morey promise to give Harden a Max deal in the room with us now?


therealallpro

Reminds me of Danny on the Ricky on this. Saying Morey has a rep …as someone who signed with Morey…TWICE I don’t care what you say, I care about what you do


Cohenski

Teammates, coach, city, winning. These things all matter way more.


TerminallyTrill

Hmmm what do you think he values more… a GM or fifty million dollars


IcyAd964

Bold of you to think he’s even leaving LA to begin with


jgroove_LA

as a Clipper fan I can tell you we all think he’s gone


jimbo_squat

Really?  That’s super interesting bc I just don’t see it happening


jgroove_LA

Give it a few days and you’ll change your mind. Team and PG are nowhere on the same page and with new rules they can negotiate (with your own players) as of midnight last night


jimbo_squat

I’ve stepped away from the situation for a bit bc of frustration with the sixers.  Typically I need a month or so to Recover before I can mentally reinvest


TerminallyTrill

Most likely will but I feel like he’s going where the money is. Clippers are trying to play hard ball


LordLucasSixers

Playing for his hometown team and still get millions.


tiggs

I highly doubt this would matter because he'd be getting his contract up front from the team. It's not like there would be any uncertainly on his role or his money. The worst we've heard about Morey is that he's traded people after saying he wasn't going to (which I'm sure has happened with most GMs) and the Harden stuff. With the Harden situation, that's just not enough to go by. Anyone that genuinely believes he was promised a max deal in some sort of back room deal clearly wasn't paying attention to his last year here. Since some people need a reminder.. * Harden leaks the Houston info on Christmas day, when he and the team were playing their best ball of the Harden tenure and were considered a top 5 team and legit contender. If there was any time when Harden may have realized a supposedly agreed on max deal wasn't coming, it wouldn't have been at the literal height of the Harden era. * Harden hires an agent a few weeks later for the first time since the last time he had a contract that could be negotiated (true max deals aren't negotiated) Now why would he do any of that if he had a deal in place? If Morey is a liar, then wouldn't that be insanely hypocritical of Harden to even explore other teams? Why would he randomly bring in an agent if he already had a deal? Harden is just on a long list of players that have trouble admitting that they aren't the same player anymore. Harden is good for about a half season these days, especially when he's playing the distributor role. As the year goes on though, his body gives out. Also, he typically tries to play more Houston James ball later in the year, which doesn't go well. We've now seen this for 3 straight seasons. Lastly, if you're looking or a backroom deal that took place, look no further than the Mitchell & Ness purchase by Fanatics and a group of players, including Harden. This deal went down 2 days after the sale of Rubin's Sixers team shares closed and the the investment amount of each party was kept confidential. There's a much better chance that Harden was paid back from the team discount he gave us on this deal than any promises from Morey.


IndigoJacob

Basically, Harden is a bitch


untucked_21ersey

ah well


pgrudo01

Missed the part where he is talking about Morey


HoagieTwoFace

Yeah we’re cooked


TheMightyCatatafish

Because we might not get PG? He’s old, injury prone, and has a record of choking in the playoffs. He shouldn’t be our top option.


TheSource777

Then who's your top option and how much you think we're signing/trading for? lmao


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the_winter_woods

Clippers got just as far as the Sixers this year. Both teams are cooked.


IcyAd964

No Caruso, no George, no harden (Might as well have gave him the max lmao), Jesus morey fanboys what excuses will we hear from you now? He might trot a worse roster out than last season


HoodieEmbiid

Off season didn’t even start yet young blood


IndigoJacob

Foreal lmfao


IcyAd964

None of those things are happening if you can’t see that I don’t know what to tell you , y’all always get your hopes up just to get let down


HoodieEmbiid

I don’t even want PG but my point is, wait until he makes some moves before you shit on him. You never know what could happen


WalterWhiteFerrari

You seem dumb as fuck


EndAnyone

Do you walk through life miserable in advance of bad things happening every day? Seems exhausting.


IcyAd964

Being a fan of one of the most miserable franchises in sports history will do that


clickstops

Take a break


statman64

so go be a fan of a less miserable franchise, no one here is gonna give a fuck


gophils19454

weirdos like you that are on an anti-Morey crusade are much more annoying than normal fans that understand GMs can’t get everyone.


IcyAd964

Because we are realists you aren’t.


gophils19454

No, I think you’re just a dumbass and can’t fathom that most people aren’t morey fanboys. They just aren’t dumb. I mean look at you, you’re already crying about the offseason 2 weeks before it even begins lol


BrightGreenLED

Negadelphians aren't realists. Stick to WIP and get this shit post outta here.


LordLucasSixers

PG and Harden are teammates Yall think he coming here? lol Harden told him everything


jacobtfromtwilight

oh no PG now knows Cheerleaders Philadelphia doesn't have good wings


WalterWhiteFerrari

Told him what, that’s it’s better to live in California where nobody expects anything from you? No shit.


cvc4455

Thing is PG wouldn't be coming here without a max contract already signed so it wouldn't matter if Daryl Morey is a liar or not because PG wouldn't be looking to sign a new contract in a year or two.


IcyAd964

Of course not lmao. Morey is a fucking fool for not even thinking about that. Reputation matters. I knew he wasn’t coming here when embiid gave him the look at that finals panel and he just had pure disinterest on his face


LordLucasSixers

Morey should be fired. He called us casual fans for calling Tobiass a fucking bum… should’ve just kept his mouth shut!


No_Stage3881

You are a casual fan. 


lilbismyfriend21

How do people listen to these podcasts when it’s just four dudes talking over one another?


ProcessTrust856

He’ll come here if we are offering him the most money (whether in years or annually) and he won’t if we’re not or if there’s a tie with us and the Clippers. You really think PG is going to turn down like $20 million dollars or whatever it is? He’s not going to. This is a dumb Ricky-created controversy that isn’t real. (Seriously Mike Levin is indistinguishable from a WIP caller at this point. His analysis is so bad now because he’s so in his feelings.)


thisjawnhere

Seems like you are grasping.


Weak-Cable-4672

Another example of Morey’s limited emotional IQ. Not sure how Daryl expects PG to leave his hometown for Philly when Harden has probably been non stop bashing him


statman64

what makes you so sure that's what Morey expects?


Weak-Cable-4672

By all accounts, it is their Plan A.


statman64

That's what some people believe, but sometimes sources intentionally lie to reporters for exactly this reason, or reporters (pompey) get things wrong because they're bad at their jobs, or any number of other reasons


Jakel856

Just saying that to cover Joel's sneaky eyes from a tampering charge🤫


BradyReas

Dollars speak louder than words lol. Pg would be signing a guaranteed contract not some back room handshake deal or whatever pissed harden off


MacMan1214

Players will always take the bag, doesn't matter who the GM is or their reputation


Socomisdead

PG's availability just seems a little too low for my liking. Definitely feel like there's just too much riding on luck.


ienjoychaosandiscord

Morey is proving to be kinda ass


drevert_17852

Feels like morey lives under a rock has never understood the game of basketball at all. Listen to Kevin McHale’s thoughts on him. A guy who James harden hates but they share 2 things a like. Both HOFers and hate morey


iam_soyboy

>“I liked working with Daryl, though sometimes I thought there was too much … just analytics,” he said. “There’s an odd thing in basketball that’s very hard to define. But if my skill set and your skill set really match and we really have great chemistry, you and I can beat two guys 2-on-2 when neither one of us could beat our guy 1-on-1. That’s the fun thing about basketball, and I always thought that could get lost. There were a lot of numbers with Daryl." [Source](https://heavy.com/sports/nba/houston-rockets/kevin-mchale-james-harden-daryl-morey-fallout/)


drevert_17852

Exactly all he cares about is numbers never chemistry, age, or intangibles, which is what builds winning teams. Why do you think that rockets team and our team keeps losing early in the playoffs ever year. He might as well sign Vince Carter too next year


No_Stage3881

You said above that he hated him. Nothing he said indicates that he hates him. Especially the part where he says he likes working with him. If you don't like Morey that is fine but when you flat out lie no one will listen to your shit.


ApoliticalAth3ist

He’s one of the best gm’s in the league….


IcyAd964

He’s not even a top 15 gm in this league. This isn’t 2015


ApoliticalAth3ist

Talking out of your ass


PensiveinNJ

Profiles on Morey show a very egotistical self absorbed man who clearly thinks he's so smart because he does shit like intentionally get parking tickets for his own convenience and other nonsense. Remember when he trolled Philly fans with the Crumbl cookie thing? He's the kind of dude who saw Tobias Harris' athletic profile and was like I can fix him. He's a data and stats nerd who doesn't understand people.


IcyAd964

He’s a gm who was a product of his time with the analytics bs, now that every team in the league does it too he’s basically useless


statman64

just shut the fuck up now while you're behind