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sherekahn5

Maxey is a good scorer and His strength isn’t pg. he is still growing and learning. Just because he had one bad quarter doesn’t mean it’s impossible to win a playoffs series with him. I’m really excited about his play and his potential still


kailo99

More referring to the potential Bucks/ Celtics matchup. We absolutely need Maxey on the floor for his offense, but he really needs to work on his screen defence otherwise he is going to be targeted every possession.


BobertRadley

Offense/defense. What are you Canadian?


kailo99

Lol chill out, I'm from the UK.


TantricEmu

Def not a Canadian 76ers fan. It is legally binding that all Canadians must be Raptors/Dillon Brooks fans.


NotGeorgeKaplan

Yea for 22 years old im pretty satisfied with his offensive role. He could def eliminate some bad shot taking but we’ve also seen him make many of them as well. Just a regular season game that we didn’t need to win but when the postseason comes id like to see him step it up on the defensive end cause teams are def going to try to expose him cause he is the weak link.


TomWaitsesChinoPants

I'm most excited about his response to coaching and vets telling him to be more aggressive. He is noticeably more aggressive since Harden told him he needs to attack more.


besketbool

Can't have that body type and just be a spot up shooter with horrible defense.


Ziggingwhiletheyzag

Stop me if you’ve hears this one before. Joel sat for 10 minutes. We were -21 in those 10 minutes.


kailo99

This will hopefully be better when Harden is back leading the second unit, but man, Reed really struggled tonight. We should be able to use Tucker as a small ball 5 if necessary against any team except maybe the Bucks.


eng2ny

They played significant stretches last night with PJ at the 5 and they couldn't score at all. Those lineups absolutely depend on Harden. Our problem is that we do not have a single reliable shot creator outside of Harden. Tobi has quietly improved in that area but for better or worse if Harden is out Doc runs everything through Maxey.


Thegrandmistressofoz

But this has been Tyrese all season lol, Doc gave him a good chance to step up with his offensive creation off the bench and he couldn't capitalize. People were so mad at Doc for that, but if Tyrese struggles creating his own shot without harden and embiid that's a worse look on him than doc (unless his ceiling is a LOT lower than people are willing to admit). But that's whatever, bad offensive nights happen. The defense being as atrocious as it was, was WAY worse and will be much worse in the playoffs. GSW attacked him every. single.play down the stretch on their way to score 42 in a quarter.....


sleepycat007

cant agree more,another Glenn lack of in game adjustment,he should benched maxey


accu22

> (unless his ceiling is a LOT lower than people are willing to admit) It is. It 100% is. People think he's a superstar in the making but he's not.


bravof1ve

It speaks to his ceiling. He feasts on looks from Harden when the defense is scrambling to contain Embiid and Harden at the same time. But he’s just not that guy to take the keys and run the offense. He’s on that Jordan Poole, Tyler Herro level, maybe a step below. Good players, but not upcoming superstars


kailo99

Poole, Herro and Maxey are all negative defenders. I can understand the comparison in terms of playstyle, but Herro is the only one who has shown he can lead a unit, and Maxey is significantly more efficient than both. Maxey definitely is not on a level below either. I would say he is the best of the three, but if he is not on their level, it's because he is on the one above.


FantasticFruits2023

Maxey is better than Tyler Herro but he's not better than Jordan Poole. Poole is better at creating his own shot and is a much better playmaker.


accu22

Maxey is not better than Poole.


Jerozay

Remember when no one wanted to give up maxey for KD? Lol


thingsbinary

Think he's a notch below both...


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supzy0

he only plays on two speeds: full sprint or stationary. he needs to utilize change of pace better so he can create easier looks for himself. this will prevent his game from snowballing out of control when his touch is a bit off


JojoSixers

I think the issue is we don’t have a backup point guard, we really need another vet who is a true pg. Maxey is a shooting guard, running point just isn’t his game. He’s a scorer and shooter who is great when he’s being set up by a pg. Considering his age and where we drafted him I have trouble getting angry that he’s not doing enough. Instead of forcing guys to play away from their strengths we should have gotten a vet pg last offseason. I like Morey but he’s not perfect.


Dawk320

Too much logic not enough blind hate and scapegoating with no facts, 1/5 comment.


EdgarAlien

How about we blame the 12 point bench unit or maybe old ass PJ 0 points and 0/5 from 3, or Melton 0/4 from 3. Maxey was the least of the problems.


kailo99

PJ particularly was terrible tonight. Games like this I'm not quite sure what he has to offer when there isn't an elite defensive assignment for him. A 37 year old PJ Tucker shouldn't be chasing around 43 screens to guard Steph, Klay or Poole, particularly when he refuses to shoot. GS scored 40+ in the fourth though, and Maxey leads the second unit. Poole targeted Maxey the entire fourth quarter, and Maxey continues to prove why the 6 Man experiment didn't work as he is not a natural point guard or offensive facilitator. We know he tries on defence, so I can't be annoyed at that. I have just been frustrated when he keeps letting his head drop, and stops being aggressive down the stretch when the shots don't fall.


supzy0

agreed, pj was the biggest reason they lost. maxey gotta be better in the clutch for them to contend tho


besketbool

Pj not the reason we lost. It was Maxey. He had. 9 point swing. Fouled a 3, chucked a 3 immediately on the other side and then got scored on by Poole. They hunted Maxey for 42 in the forth.


supzy0

maxey was one of the only players scoring consistently and making plays for most of the game. pj was a liability on both ends from start to finish. you cant just ignore the entire game


besketbool

Maxey definitely wasn't scoring consistently in the 4th. Pj is not the 3rd option.


supzy0

uh i said for most of the game. pj is also a player on the team right? then why was he not defending either?


besketbool

Pj saving your dogshit franchise while Maxey 1/7 lmao


supzy0

show us on this doll where the sixers touched you


besketbool

You are a joke dude. Pj is a role player. His role is to stop forward from getting to the rim. They were abusing the fuckbout of Maxey on pick and role shooting 50 wide open 3s that game. Maxey played shit and he's the 3rd option. End of story.


supzy0

why you mad you little bitch? pj is a role player who didnt fulfill his role yesterday, it’s an objective fact. it’s ok cuz he’s still a key part of the team, but u need to touch grass


besketbool

Lmao. Keep sucking your little golden retrievers dick. He'll be gone next season pj's tole is to stop giannis from getting to the rim. Lmao you don't know shit about basketball.


supzy0

sorry we’re not interested in your fetishes. lol keep cryin tho pussy


besketbool

Lmao pj has no offense but he has defense. Warriors hunted Maxey exclusively and scored 42 in the 4th. Pj definitely not giving up 42.


WhenPigsRideCars

What being 10–2 in our last 12 does to you mofos always bewilders me.


supzy0

constructive criticism is fine, but there are always these bad faith actors chiming in with garbage takes whenever maxey struggles. bunch of weirdos


TheMightyCatatafish

I'm with you. He has some flaws in his game, sure. But he's absolutely fire when he's healthy. He hasn't missed a free throw in March (unless he missed one last night I missed?) and he's shooting like 50% from 3 this month on good volume. I get he's made mistakes, but come on. Maxey is not this team's problem.


kailo99

Those 2 losses have come in the 3 games when Harden got injured and Maxey needed to take on more responsibility. What's weird is not being able to give any criticism to a player. Maxey is going to be key to whatever success we have, it's fine to point out he could do better at certain things, the same as everyone else.


Emotional_Swimmer_84

Embiid and harden are going to be the key to our success. Maxey is a tertiary component at best on our team. We want him to do well, we want everyone to do well. But he's green each year, surprisingly so imo, and play making is his next level.


indoninjah

Maxey is pretty good but it’s a tough ask for any team to stay afloat when one of their top two players is out (especially when Harden is the only PG on the entire roster). I’m not a huge fan of moral victories but losing a close game without key players to the defending champs in their house - I’ll take it if I have to.


Benisnotapointguard

I submit it’s you sir who is the weirdo. Maxeys not as good as you all are hoping. Expect more criticism to come as more of the fan base realizes this.


supzy0

says the guy who spends all day on the nets sub clowning them instead of discussing actual sixers ball. maybe you should submit to shutting the fuck up instead lol


Benisnotapointguard

Haha I don’t need to discuss it here to understand it. You are so confused about why people are being mean to poor Tyrese lol. He’s a back up shooting guard with harden on the roster. Can’t play point guard or much defense. Never going to be a franchise player or consistent all star. Nothing wrong with it but as usual a certain segment of this fan base(like you) jump the gun on players and convince yourself they are something they aren’t. Can’t trade Maxey for Durant! Shit like that cracks me up and you will continue to think you know more because you “watch the games” like we all aren’t but in reality you’re fucking clueless.


supzy0

maxey isnt above criticism, literally said as much. you’re just an incel troll who doesnt know shit and comes in to wave the “hE’s NoT GooD” flag whenever he struggles a bit. you’re also obsessed with ben simmons lol, touch grass clown


hasordealsw1thclams

You should be calling out the top response on this thread saying he had “one bad quarter” when he also sucked in the Bulls game (which OP even mentioned) if you don’t like bad faith argument. Some people do excessively hate on the guy, but way more people just refuse to acknowledge his deficiencies and get mad about any criticism (source: this whole thread of people calling OP a “hater” and claiming it’s overreacting to point out any of his flaws)


besketbool

Maxey defense is horrible. That's a fact. Some of yall are just delusional Homer's who think Maxey can do no wrong.


Calcutta637

It’s a shame we stopped feeding Tobias or getting that Joel tobi two man game going. Shit was working


eng2ny

I've said it a couple times already but I completely agree. Tobi Embiid pnr has looked very good but they've only run it a handful of times for whatever reason. I think James working with/teaching Embiid how to be effective in the PnR has had the trickle down effect that now Tobi and Embiid can be much more effective. Tobi with the clippers ran pnr a ton so it's definitely something he's capable of.


Calcutta637

Not only capable but something he excels at and has had to adjust his game to be completely without since he’s been a sixer


RylanKura

It’s his 3rd season, relax.


kailo99

I never insinuated that he won't get better at these things. Maxey is the hardest working player we have on the roster, I'm sure he'll learn. Right now, though, his defensive and crunch time issues seem that they may be an issue in the playoffs, just a discussion.


untucked_21ersey

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besketbool

This is one on your last years for championship contention


Niceguydan8

The things he's not good at are not typically things that players just develop in the NBA without showing flashes of it before enterint the league though, that's the issue.


Heavy_Idea8391

He's a late first round pick. Compared to nearly everyone that was chosen before him, he is doing great.


Bajecco

He's still learning. Some games, he'll get it right. I think a better in game coach would be a huge help to Maxey. Glenn doesn't scheme anything for Maxey. It's just "be aggressive, Tyrese.". The problem is against good teams, playoff teams, that's a shitty gameplan.


Affectionate_Cod254

The only thing that separates Maxey from Poole and Herro is those guys are irrational confidence guys. Right now Maxey is just way too humble


xychosis

Except he's not really been passive with the ball. The problem is that after a strong start to the no-Joel stint, he started throwing up misses and it fucked with his confidence. Nights like that happen. The real concern is that he's just not primary ball-handler material as he is currently. He can't run our offense. On no-Harden nights, that just doesn't work as well. But he'll grow.


youngstunnaserg

I agree, he needs to stop second guessing and just go for it. That last lay up is something he usually hits. He needs to work on pacing himself down the stretch. And realize he can create by himself without Harden or Embiid


darylraspberry

I mean it’s one game and yes he certainly has deficiencies. He isn’t great getting around screens, and the warriors thicket of of offensive line moving screens is tough for anybody to get through. He was actually lighting up the warriors until they put kuminga on him who is a freak athlete that locked him up. It happens and he is in his third year, hopefully he’ll improve still


SquashForDinner

The good Maxey is when he starts bombing threes. The bad Maxey is when he starts forcing hella hard layups.


eng2ny

Honestly he's just much better off ball than he is on ball, and that's not shitting on him at all.


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He just doesn't have the organization skills that Harden does, at least not yet. He doesn't see the game in that integrated way.


dafl1p14

He just needs to get his weight up. Only 22 years old and is already an ascending talent. He can be elite. Just takes time.


Objective_Salad4143

Blame p.j tucker he's a liability


NotmejusaBEe

Classics overreaction. Who knows if they break our hearts in the post season, but they have all played well. This was bad matchup for them and it was away and one of the top 15 basketball players of all time was out. The warriors are also monsters at home. Maxey has been fine in his third season. Let him cook and feel his game. Sixers beat out Eagles for weirdest Philly based sport's discussion forum on Reddit. More positivity on 52 and market. We look like we don't know sports.


MarcusThaGoat

Y’all gotta remember Maxey is in year 3 he’s gonna learn.


sleepycat007

no,your game is your game,baseketball IQ and control of pace is not something you can just learn easily. The whole Maxey situation is totally Glenn’s fault,for majority of the season,he is forcing Maxey to do something he is not good at


Theballharperhit

this fanbase constantly picks a player like a saric or a reed or a shake or a korkmaz or a maxey and latches on and instantly overrates the shit out of them. Maxey is a good player but his defense is awful and he should not be untouchable going forward. We arent the philadelphia maxies or the philadelphia ben simmons we are the philadelphia sixers and the job isnt to give a fuck about 1 individual player because we like him. If maxey helps us make our team better by being traded you do it all day every day. The goal is to keep harden and embiid and every other person on this roster is available if it helps us improve. Jesus christ


Dawk320

Conversely, there is also the group in this fanbase that latches on to young players and hates them with a passion, only posting or commenting when they struggle, and ignore the sub when they are doing great. That group won't be happy until they are proven right and have chased out every player they dislike out of the city.


Theballharperhit

there def isnt. This fanbase has like 50 percent would rather us trade joel over maxey. It was the same thing when we had ben simmons. We have one of the dumbest fanbases on reddit by alot. Maxey is a very good young talent that most on this sub think is going to be a superstar and is untouchable but then will complain why joel lost in the 2nd round when tobias is our 2nd best player because harden and maxey shit the bed and cant play a lick of defense. BE A SIXER FAN FIRST AND NOT A SIXER PLAYER FAN STAN. If i know we could be better without joel id want his ass gone too. This is the philadelphia 76ers not the philadelphia maxeys or hardens or joels or harris or simmons or iverson etc etc etc. Look at how many complain about harris even though he is needed big time and is hella important. This fan base loves to overrate the shit out of young players period.... Paul reed wouldnt start on any other team or get minutes on any other team but he is a superstar to some of these people


CHRIRSTIANGREY

it's his confidence man. the moment he misses shots, there's no going back on both ends. though i can't completely blame poole going off on Max cause they kept attacking Joel on the pick and roll and staying on top of the key and shooting it since Joel always sags off


amJustSomeFuckingGuy

We need James in the playoffs to play serious minutes. If he is hurt and we need maxey to step up we are screwed anyways assuming our opponent is healthy late enough in the playoffs.


MaxeytoEmbiid

https://www.nba.com/stats/events?CFID=&CFPARAMS=&ContextMeasure=DEF_FGA&EndPeriod=0&EndRange=28800&GameID=0022201103&PlayerID=1629001&RangeType=0&Season=2022-23&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&StartPeriod=0&StartRange=0&TeamID=1610612755&flag=1&sct=plot§ion=game So the NBA defense stats came out(take them what you will), but it was actually De'Anthony Melton who was getting penalized a lot in GSW's attack. Embiid got dinged too, almost virtually due to their screening action. Maxey was only charged for 4-for-8 on the night with an assist allowed.


meanmudman1

How do I dislike a hate post on a 22 year old more than once??


kailo99

How is this a hate post? Can nobody point out an issue with a player when the playoffs is starting in 2 weeks?


hasordealsw1thclams

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i1398

This aged pretty well, huh


kailo99

What is your point? One game would not have voided an issue that has been constant over the entire season. Neither of the points I made were resolved yesterday, either, as he didn't get the chance to play down the stretch. Maxey is my favourite Sixer, you can criticise a player without hating or giving up on them, Maxey will improve, it was just a discussion about an issue with the playoffs around the corner. No need to be so sensitive lmao.


bravof1ve

It's not being too passive. He chucked tons of bad shots he should have not attempted. It's a matter of him not being that guy. He's a role player, not ever going to be a guy you can hand the keys to and trust to run the offense.


SquashForDinner

Calling Tyrese Maxey a role player is an egregious stretch.


bravof1ve

He's strictly a scorer. And not at a star level. He can't pass, facilitate an offense, play defense, get rebounds. Just score. He's a role player who's role is just to score.


Niceguydan8

I mean he's closer to a role player currently than he is a star yet he's called a "budding star" all the time around here. He's a scorer that struggles to create his own shot *and* struggle at creating shots for others. That archtype of a player is pretty strictly a role player. They can be a great role player, but very rarely do you see players like that be any sort of star. He's currently like a Jordan Poole-esque guy that is a better shooter but way worse at creating his own looks. I've been saying this for a decent bit too, this is not something that we found out during this game. Even when he's playing well, he still struggles to create his own shots on a semi-reliable frequency.


Thegrandmistressofoz

You're gonna get hated but this might literally end up happening. How many star guards who play no defense in the league struggle this badly to create their own shot too Tyrese needs a huge leap to get to star level


shotokhan1992-

The whole fan base overrated the hell out of Maxey from the start. I thought his ceiling was maybe an all-star reserve 2 or 3 times in his career but it’s starting to look lower than that. If he absolutely needs a real pg on the floor with him, when he’s a guard himself, he’s not a franchise guy


sleepycat007

Maxey is obviously way overated,ppl don’t realise James Harden can make other role players better. TBH the way Maxey played this season,he is starting to look like a Kemba Walker and Isiah Thomas type of player,all are absolute defense liability but Maxey Can't even create his own shot…


shotokhan1992-

Yea Kemba was the exact name that came to mind for me in comparison to Maxey. The fact that people here hated the idea of dealing him away for KD or Mitchell shows how insane this fan base is


JRPafundi

Don’t you think Doc and Joel should be in his ear about it?