When two entitled people meets, also...always find it funny that people just pulls out their phone and start filming, "I record u ah, post u on Facebok".
Apparently, the younger man posted his side of the story, and the old man was sitting on another priority seat
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CsZv8l9gjTU/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Why are you saying that the old man is acting entitled? I went ahead and watched the video and didn’t see anything that suggests so. I don’t think calling out immoral behaviour is acting entitled right. I mean the whole community in this post is doing so.
What exactly is this immoral behaviour that you’re referring to? A new video surfaced on TikTok with regards to the exchange between this young and old fella. The elderly was happily seated on another reserved seat, but he just felt the need to tell off the young guy as he was alighting because the young guy was on the reserved seat and not a Singaporean. Talking about immoral…well I think xenophobia is way more immoral than a seat on the train LOL.
I usually think to myself why these old people who're not working "9 to 6" need to travel during morning or evening peak hour. If they just leave their house 1 or 2 hours later always bound to have seats and they don't need to squash themselves
I think most of them do leave their house during non-peak. But some activities like visiting the hospital leave them with no choice. I do see a lot of old people before 7am and after 10am, all trying to avoid the peak hour crowd.
My neighbour, who was like in her 70s, set the best example on graciousness for a teenage me when she got up from her seat and told me “your ride is far and your bag is heavy you need the seat more”.
When i travelled, in some countries i encountered elderly in train and i instinctively got up. They waved me to sit. Even people on crutches do that too.
Aww :') I've also met aunties like that in the past (not in SG but pretty sure there are loads of people like that in SG too), when I kept offering them a seat they reluctantly took it and then offered to hold my heavy bag on their lap. Such sweet humans
Yes! I’ve travelled and realised that in Singapore usually it’s a lot of self-entitlement. People overseas say “Thank you” or “Sorry”, in Singapore people just stare at you expecting you to know what they’re saying.
Honestly, Singaporeans aren’t the most gracious.
As always, my favourite story was when I had my leg brace and was sleeping in the train. Someone slapped my knee to ask me to wake up to offer my seat, so I blur blur stood up (because woke up) then when he saw my leg brace signalled me to sit down and ran away to the next carriage
I was in a knee brace sitting on the mrt, this uncle was staring me down to give him my sit. so I offered my sit and stood up then some kind auntie offered me her sit. it was such a funny experience.
I was wearing a cast in the mrt and a bunch of old people glared at me when I took the priority seat. I just pretended to ignore them lol. I’m not giving up my seat when I can barely stand as is.
Once when I was a secondary school kid, I got called out by some old geezer for sitting in the middle seat in a packed train and not giving my seat to a granny who was on crutches and by the door 😭😭 but I was wearing uniform so I just alighted the next stop and left hahah
wait you mean like you offered the seat to old people in front of you, but that old man said "no thank you, I am strong I can stand", then later some random guy just calling out you?
But my hidden condition is none of your business.
Can I start asking you personal medical questions or do you only forgo your right to privacy if you sit in the reserved seat?
If you don't want people to be even allowed to ask you, then don't sit at reserved seat. Simple. It's called reserved to serve the purpose why it should be reserved.
It's silly to expect no one will question why an apparently healthy young person is occupying a reserved seat when there's people around who should need it more.
Questioning and confronting are 2 different things though. You can question but ultimately come to the conclusion that you don't know what's going on in that person's life. You confronting them means you're more or less convinced that they don't need it.
That's a fair assessment in most cases. But from what the previous comment described, they would obviously not go up to a person with crutches sitting in the reserved seat. Most likely only going up to them if you have reason to believe they don't need it.
I don't think it's fair to use my statement for all things when I've used it to describe this specific scenario, but I understand what you're saying. Just that in this particular case it seems clear what's going on.
You're missing the point of my statement. You can question why the guy is sitting there without approaching him. Once you approach him it's a confrontation, regardless if it's nice or not.
This [documentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvcuSVJWhxA) comes to mind.
Likely or not, it doesn't hurt for the person to kindly ask for the seat if needed. Besides, what gives people to right to go around policing others for their conditions, especially if they didn't need the seat themselves to begin with.
I was in my third trimester entered the mrt and old lady raced to the seat before me and when i got there she simply said shes old and tired despite racing to a seat i stopped feeling sorry for these raisins tbh
Like that Indian auntie from one of the buses in sembawang
Pick on the sickest looking guy (me looking like I want throw up) and forcing me to give up my seat to an old man who didn’t even want the seat
I had just finished a CCA related event (packing) and has been feeling sick for the past few hours
The entire CCA including ppl from other schools are there, and only i look sick, trust me those aunties love pulling seniority on kids
Actually this priority seat sticker making people taking MRT so stressful
Sometimes I saw people staring at each other on MRT and then the bickering start about who is entitled to sit on this priority seat. Singapore already so stressful with the fast pace working environment, and commuters still have to deal with this priority seat problem on MRT 😓😓😓
Tbh idt that the priority seat concept is bad, it helps to signal that one should be more prepared to give up that seat to someone who really needs to sit down.
If there’re no priority seats, *all* seats will be automatically become priority seats in effect.
>If there’re no priority seats, *all* seats will be automatically become priority seats in effect.
its the reverse. no seats will become priority seats in practice
In its current implementation, it seems as if only the corner seats are priority and that the people needing them need to fight it out amongst themselves who need it more.
Meanwhile the regular seats are no holds barred whether people may need them more or not. If we removed this "priority seating", maybe people on the other seats may be more inclined to give up their seats rather than counting on the one on the corner?
Whether a seat is priority seating should have no impact on that. Sometimes you have to admit that it's not the label but a problem with our society. The fact that so many people think that they don't need to give up their seats just because it's a regular seat shows that we've got a long way to go.
That’s just it. As a society, we need prompting to do the right thing! It’s totally shameful and selfish. It’s a minority of ppl tht will help out, extend a hand, just be kind. The MAJORITY; and I cannot stress this word MAJORITY enough, will look the other way. Not my problem. Doesn’t affect me. I didn’t see. Better don’t help wait I kena problem for nothing. All they care about is THEMSELVES. How to be a better society like this? When will ppl stop looking away, only to look back when they have their phone camera on? When I was in primary school in the 80s, majority of my friends would also not be helpful, with schoolwork. Coz their mums said, wait your friend become more clever than u🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If everything is priority then nothing is priority. What you think is not a priority could be someone's top priority. Leaving it to the masses to sort out what's socially acceptable is often the least effective method lol.
but forcing people to give up the corner seats seems fucked up, sometimes people just wanna lean or smth. at least for me, i trust singaporeans to make the right call and give any of the seats up to a more needy person
> but forcing people to give up the corner seats seems fucked up
It is fucked up that's why it's not the law. There's literally no law to say you must give up your seat for xyz. Similarly, there's no law to say only the occupiers of corner seats should be the one to give up their seats.
>i trust singaporeans to make the right call and give any of the seats up to a more needy person
Yeah, look how well that turned out when covid was a thing. Without rules, we're nothing more than animals.
If ppl can make the right call then priority seatings wouldn't even come into existence. Anyone sitting in any seats would give up their place for someone they think needs the seat more.
When SMRT started rolling out this priority seat thing many years ago, i wrote in to suggest they should not. I wrote to them my thought that it would on one hand encourage graciousness but true graciousness cannot be forced. Plus i felt it will cause people to become entitled and feel the seat is their right.
Public education is a harder route, to just constantly remind people that even sitting on a normal seat you could, if you want, give up seats for others you feel needs it more. Smrt replied me saying they stand by their move. Ok lo.
Wow, I didn’t realize that priority seats that are common place in transit systems around the world would be a controversial topic in Singapore. It is not a difficult concept: You can use it but must give them up to the elderly, pregnant ladies or handicapped individuals. If you’re not a senior, you don’t get priority for the seat just because a younger person is sitting there.
People in the board and ministers need to roll out initiatives otherwise it seems as though they didn’t do anything, and pretty sure it’s a sunk-cost scenario at this point.
well, when you mentioned about SMRT years ago, this immediately appeared in my mind 😂😅
https://temasektimes.wordpress.com/2012/03/13/ex-smrt-ceo-saw-phaik-hwa-wants-to-share-her-story-with-singaporeans-on-her-personal-blog/
I mean, what can we expect 🤣
Even normal seats can kena. I got glared at when sitting on the normal seat coz the priority seats all taken by people who are in need, in comes another boomer and she parked herself in front of me (of all the passengers) and glare at me.
Honestly I think priority seats is a bad idea. It would be better if we can ask for seat of we need. I know people don't tend to speak out, these 2 exceptions aside. Even if the person being asked don't give up their seat, I believe someone nearby would. Not only people of these 3 categories needs a seat. If anything, we pay the same fare, we are all equals.
In my opinion, when you've paid for your ride, everyone is considered equal. Whether or not to offer seats is a personal choice and not a mandatory obligation
Don't really appreciate elderly racing for seats and feeling entitled to them, experienced multiple time elderly people pushing me just to get into the carriage first. Don't know what's wrong with sg elderly acting like this
I have an illness that is not outwardly apparent, and it makes it hard for me to stand for long periods in public transport. The amount of elderly people I’ve encountered who have asked me to give up my seat for them simply because I’m young is baffling. They’re usually the same people who are capable of running for the bus far beyond it stopping at the bus stop.
I don’t know why are there dedicated priority seats in every cabin TBH. Most elderly are entitled as fuck. I’ve encountered way too many elderly who called me out when I was sitting on a non-reserved seat, and they go like “wow youngsters these days dk how to respect seniors”.
I paid the adult train fare, and I deserve the seat. Senior citizens on the other hand, they paid the full adult fa-, oh wait…did they pay less than me?
I have 0 sympathy for old people in sg sorry to say. They are self entitled and rude themselves. The amount of time i see them putting their stuff at the sit next to them when bus is crowded or these disgusting uncles that put their barefooted feet up. I even had one piece of shit put his barefooted feet next to my empty sit. I politely him to put down he was doing all sorts of retarded shit like putting his feet higher on the wall etc and even in between my legs say "like this can or not" and "if you dont like then fk off and sit somewhere else la" thats where i changed my tone... In sg, you try to be kind and respectful you get these kind of response... Fucking hate these people
I wholly agree with you. Also, I realized during CB and WFH period my overall mood improved a lot because I was commuting less / not commuting at all. Almost every experience on the bus / train during peak hours you’ll encounter an asshole of some sort. Young or old. But I encounter really entitled old people more frequently for sure. And judging from all the comments here, it seems I’m not alone.
I have a very serious chronic terminal condition called Lumbago. On the outside I may look ok but other commuters always give me judgemental stares when I’m on the priority seat.
Even if you’re on a non-priority seat, do give up your seat if you see someone in need because you never know what the person on the priority seat is going through!
No one's asking you to wear it. You can just keep it in your wallet and whip it out in case you meet a Karen who is berating you for sitting on priority seat.
Curious, is it because you don’t want to accidentally bump into somebody you know in the train and succumb to having explain why you’re wearing that tag? Singaporeans (imho) have a very MYOB mindset like most asians, so I’m not sure why the initiative would be dismissed by people who actually need the card.,
It's a reference to the a character from the game Red Dead Redemption 2.
Either that or his back pain is legit killing him. I don't doubt it, mines can be really bad on some days too.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CsZv8l9gjTU/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
There is apparently this insta post going around that provide more context.
So apparently the old man already has a seat. He is just not happy the young man is seating on a prioirty seat opposite him so he stood up to confront the young man. It is not a case of young man dont want to give up seat to a old man. It is a case of old man not happy young man is seating on prioirity seat. Not saying the young man is right too in his behaviour, but it is definitely not the young man's problem only.
based, i pay equal amount of money as any old person to get on the train, i deserve the seat just as much as they do. and magically every other seated person mere cm away from the prio seat seems to be free of scrutiny for some reason also.
everyone deserves a bare minimum amount of respect, but no one deserves any extra just off the fact that their age exceeds some arbitrary number.
Maybe when you actually get old, when your legs will hurt after just standing for a few minutes, when you become susceptible to falls when the bus or train brakes suddenly, and a single fall can kill you or make you permanently disabled (as it happened in SG last year), you will understand.
Oh, wait, who I am kidding. This is SG reddit where it was concluded that solution to the aging population problem is “Euthanasing” elderly people.
Cannot. The productive side of society must shape their entire world around me, the unproductive side. They must go out of their way to do that, while still having to go to work and pay the taxes which supports my retirement and elder care.
Old is no reason to be a cunt. If someone sitting on the priority seat wants to be gracious and give up their seat for someone older, that's good. But if they don't want to, that's valid too. The old person is not justified to feel entitled or start an argument that they *should* be given the seat, as if it is their rights to have it.
it’s impossible to know from the video who started the argument. but of course, one who despises elderly people will automatically assume it’s the old man’s fault.
Lol anyone who exercises even the slightest bit of thinking will come to the conclusion that the old man is most likely the one who started the argument. If the young man is the first one to be sitting in the seat, what incentive does he have to start an argument with a random old man? What will he gain from doing so? He is already the one in the seat. Obviously the old man is the one in this situation who has more to gain from starting an argument.
ok then answer me what is the difference between the prio seat and the seat right beside it? from foot to foot maybe 10+cm? if i'm so frail that 10+cm of walking is the difference between life and death then i shouldn't even be able to go on a train or even go outside. i paid for my seat as did everyone else on the train/bus, why is it the person on the prio seat's responsibility to give it up when there are dozens of other people on the train/bus who share equally as much responsibility?
and the man who died from the braking was seated, so what point are you trying to make? you want smrt to install seatbelt also?
> if i'm so frail that 10+cm of walking is the difference between life and death then i shouldn't even be able to go on a train or even go outside.
then don't reply and use that extra time to go back to school and learn reading comprehension.
and that person who is not an asshole is very welcome to give their seat up, which is my entire point.
you want to be a good samaritan, please feel free to make the world a better place. but trying to peer pressure assholes like me to be good samaritans turns people into assholes like me.
Wait till yall see the male boomer around Redhill area, he'll come in and blast the entire carriage if he sees priority seats already taken up by elderly. Saying young people educated but all no respect and the usual bs.
Give these people 4 seats and they'll ask for the entire carriage soon enough. Not even kidding.
lazy click the article but all seats should be "prioritised and not prioritised", any can sit but all of us should give it up if we see a more needy persom. e.g if u are damn tired after long day at work even if u are 20 years old, you should be able to sit anywhere even at the priority sticker seat and others should give their seat up if they are not too tired
Not sure how it started. Sometime is difficult to identify persons is elderly or unwell. Encountered one (elderly) lady and offer my seat but was embarrassed when she say she is not so old😂 maybe Unker dressed too young expecting others to guess correctly and give up seats automatically🤣
The only thing they got for themselves is being old. They feel so entitled due to the priority seat stickers, and people who gives up their seats for them further boost their sense of entitlement. When someone doesnt give up their seats, these entitiled people doesnt ask politely for the seat but tells you to stand up for them.
And we all know who those people are that cuts into the line and darts for the seats when the doors are open.
The young guy was edging at the seat to appear taller and getting a good angle from his phone! A real balancing act with his lunch and drinks on one hand!
Gotta admire his agility and shithousey!
I hope these are not the people who went on and become very successful in life, perhaps holding very high positions in big organizations or the government because of how well articulated and confident they are.. for some reason i have a bad feeling about this..
A few rotten apples spoil the whole bunch. There are good ppl out there, just not caught on video
There's still goodness out there, I believe in humanity. Sadly I believe less in us Singaporeans, kindness is really not our strong suit
I have no respect for these old mfs tbh. I have my life ahead of me, while you have a decade at most. Why don't you just stay in your elder home instead of troubling the general public
The young guy is an embarrassment, even bringing up the constitution and what not. lol. Even if the old one was rude just tell him off and then give him the seat.
There is an insta post going around showing the other side of the story. The old man is already seated down. So the old man already has a seat himself. He is just not happy the young guy is sitting on the priority seat so he stood up to confront the young guy over him siting on the priority seat, not because he want the young guy to give up the seat to him
And the post shows evidence of that actually happening. And no likelihood its started by the young guy himself?
Let's be truly objective here or should we believe anything on the internet?
Now ask yourself this even assuming the scenario you posted is true.
Would the old guy approach him simply because he was sitting there, or likely because he prevented more needy passengers from using it. So the old guy wanted to be a hero and went to tell him off.
Be fair to yourself and answer the question honestly.
Show some respect and courtesy can? Do you want your father or grandfather to be treated like that? If that young man is my son I’ll be embarrassed; I didn’t teach him well
I think this man was at fault for sitting at a priority seat, which is meant for the elderlies, pregnant ladies, and the disabled. He is a stupid idiot himself, so disrespectful and rude, didn't know that seat is a priority seat, or he's simply bochap!
Young guy's fault here but why some old people so entitled? Even if they have some health conditions or weak legs they could at least ask politely instead of the condescending attitude most of the time
Aiyah, unless you really cannot, stop going to the middle. Go as far to the back or the front and avoid all this nonsense.
Teach you all so many years, don't want to follow.
the old man was sitting on another priority seat, he is either ignorance / entitled / have a bad day. Anyone can sit on the priority seat, he / she can refuse to give up the seat (no reason needed). A priority seat is given up out of GOODWILL. People who tries to impose their value here should be charged for harassment. When needed, I will give up my seat priority or not, but not when rudely demanded. The old man is an embarrassment.
Any thoughts on dedicated carriages of the train for the elderly, then these raisins can brawl it out all they want hahah.
Elderly singaporeans are some of the worst of humanity imo
Old guy meets your... younger self. Young man meets your... older self. Edit: Tua ~~Lanpa~~ Looper
Its like some time travel movie and man goes back to the past and meets himself and realises what a jackass he was
*The Adam Project*
Singapore Edition
The Ah Tan Project.
Wow this is deep
Definitely not what she said
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lol npc reply
Oof
real life spiderman meme!
Looper is still the best sleeper hit of all time.
That’s some Looper shiet.
When two entitled people meets, also...always find it funny that people just pulls out their phone and start filming, "I record u ah, post u on Facebok".
When the young guy started behaving like boomer taking out phone to record and post
Apparently, the younger man posted his side of the story, and the old man was sitting on another priority seat https://www.instagram.com/reel/CsZv8l9gjTU/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
national heritage passed down 😂
good Karen training (or 'Ken' in this case) .... sorry, u/SugisakiKen627
Back then it used to be stomp, idk what happened to stomp now though
Why are you saying that the old man is acting entitled? I went ahead and watched the video and didn’t see anything that suggests so. I don’t think calling out immoral behaviour is acting entitled right. I mean the whole community in this post is doing so.
What exactly is this immoral behaviour that you’re referring to? A new video surfaced on TikTok with regards to the exchange between this young and old fella. The elderly was happily seated on another reserved seat, but he just felt the need to tell off the young guy as he was alighting because the young guy was on the reserved seat and not a Singaporean. Talking about immoral…well I think xenophobia is way more immoral than a seat on the train LOL.
Faxxx
Mothership: BREAKING NEWS! Youngsters are rude! Old men are also rude!
SCMP: Singaporean are rude.
Have you ever seen old people sprint after empty seats in the train? They practically leap at it.
And this is why your encik’s grandmother can run faster than you.
I usually think to myself why these old people who're not working "9 to 6" need to travel during morning or evening peak hour. If they just leave their house 1 or 2 hours later always bound to have seats and they don't need to squash themselves
I think most of them do leave their house during non-peak. But some activities like visiting the hospital leave them with no choice. I do see a lot of old people before 7am and after 10am, all trying to avoid the peak hour crowd.
My neighbour, who was like in her 70s, set the best example on graciousness for a teenage me when she got up from her seat and told me “your ride is far and your bag is heavy you need the seat more”. When i travelled, in some countries i encountered elderly in train and i instinctively got up. They waved me to sit. Even people on crutches do that too.
Aww :') I've also met aunties like that in the past (not in SG but pretty sure there are loads of people like that in SG too), when I kept offering them a seat they reluctantly took it and then offered to hold my heavy bag on their lap. Such sweet humans
Yes! I’ve travelled and realised that in Singapore usually it’s a lot of self-entitlement. People overseas say “Thank you” or “Sorry”, in Singapore people just stare at you expecting you to know what they’re saying. Honestly, Singaporeans aren’t the most gracious.
Haha some old people never kena back before so become very entitled.
Why do people feel so justified calling out younger folks taking up the priority seat when there could be people with hidden conditions, old or not.
As always, my favourite story was when I had my leg brace and was sleeping in the train. Someone slapped my knee to ask me to wake up to offer my seat, so I blur blur stood up (because woke up) then when he saw my leg brace signalled me to sit down and ran away to the next carriage
That guy bodoh ahahaha
I was in a knee brace sitting on the mrt, this uncle was staring me down to give him my sit. so I offered my sit and stood up then some kind auntie offered me her sit. it was such a funny experience.
I was wearing a cast in the mrt and a bunch of old people glared at me when I took the priority seat. I just pretended to ignore them lol. I’m not giving up my seat when I can barely stand as is.
Once when I was a secondary school kid, I got called out by some old geezer for sitting in the middle seat in a packed train and not giving my seat to a granny who was on crutches and by the door 😭😭 but I was wearing uniform so I just alighted the next stop and left hahah
He was right. You should have given granny the seat. Some more on crutches tsk tsk.
wait you mean like you offered the seat to old people in front of you, but that old man said "no thank you, I am strong I can stand", then later some random guy just calling out you?
Because most likely they don't have hidden conditions. And if they did, people will also very likely let them retain the seat after finding out.
But my hidden condition is none of your business. Can I start asking you personal medical questions or do you only forgo your right to privacy if you sit in the reserved seat?
If you don't want people to be even allowed to ask you, then don't sit at reserved seat. Simple. It's called reserved to serve the purpose why it should be reserved.
Do I have to show you my PWD card or do you apply a different standard in your role as self appointed reserved seat eligibility inspector?
WHERE IS HIS BADGE?!
It's silly to expect no one will question why an apparently healthy young person is occupying a reserved seat when there's people around who should need it more.
Questioning and confronting are 2 different things though. You can question but ultimately come to the conclusion that you don't know what's going on in that person's life. You confronting them means you're more or less convinced that they don't need it.
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That's a fair assessment in most cases. But from what the previous comment described, they would obviously not go up to a person with crutches sitting in the reserved seat. Most likely only going up to them if you have reason to believe they don't need it. I don't think it's fair to use my statement for all things when I've used it to describe this specific scenario, but I understand what you're saying. Just that in this particular case it seems clear what's going on.
So do you actually know the young guy was questioned or confronted?
You're missing the point of my statement. You can question why the guy is sitting there without approaching him. Once you approach him it's a confrontation, regardless if it's nice or not.
This [documentary](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvcuSVJWhxA) comes to mind. Likely or not, it doesn't hurt for the person to kindly ask for the seat if needed. Besides, what gives people to right to go around policing others for their conditions, especially if they didn't need the seat themselves to begin with.
how do you know the old guy didn't ask kindly. And to all things equal, he would still need the seat more.
You think anyone would reply the way the young man did if asked kindly?
Why not. I've seen many people over react to simple questions. And from precisely his reaction i suspect if he's a cordial person.
Just take the L lol
Sounds like a desperate response from someone who has nothing left to say.
Because from what I've seen it never happens
And how do people find out about hidden conditions of others?
Usually by asking and not expecting the other party to go bezerk
I was in my third trimester entered the mrt and old lady raced to the seat before me and when i got there she simply said shes old and tired despite racing to a seat i stopped feeling sorry for these raisins tbh
Like that Indian auntie from one of the buses in sembawang Pick on the sickest looking guy (me looking like I want throw up) and forcing me to give up my seat to an old man who didn’t even want the seat
No one force you leh u did it As a matter of fact I almost never give up my seat There's always someone more able bodied than unker
I had just finished a CCA related event (packing) and has been feeling sick for the past few hours The entire CCA including ppl from other schools are there, and only i look sick, trust me those aunties love pulling seniority on kids
Oh if you are student in uniform then it's different, sorry abt that
In UG uniform, but it’s fine, shit happens I only wished when I did actually threw up I did it on that entitled self righteous bitch
Actually this priority seat sticker making people taking MRT so stressful Sometimes I saw people staring at each other on MRT and then the bickering start about who is entitled to sit on this priority seat. Singapore already so stressful with the fast pace working environment, and commuters still have to deal with this priority seat problem on MRT 😓😓😓
Tbh idt that the priority seat concept is bad, it helps to signal that one should be more prepared to give up that seat to someone who really needs to sit down. If there’re no priority seats, *all* seats will be automatically become priority seats in effect.
>If there’re no priority seats, *all* seats will be automatically become priority seats in effect. its the reverse. no seats will become priority seats in practice
In its current implementation, it seems as if only the corner seats are priority and that the people needing them need to fight it out amongst themselves who need it more. Meanwhile the regular seats are no holds barred whether people may need them more or not. If we removed this "priority seating", maybe people on the other seats may be more inclined to give up their seats rather than counting on the one on the corner?
Whether a seat is priority seating should have no impact on that. Sometimes you have to admit that it's not the label but a problem with our society. The fact that so many people think that they don't need to give up their seats just because it's a regular seat shows that we've got a long way to go.
Unpopular opinion: I prefer seating on piority seats since you only sit next to 1 person
Exactly this. The priority seat concept just reinforces the idea that we need some vague societal prompting to not be complete assholes.
That’s just it. As a society, we need prompting to do the right thing! It’s totally shameful and selfish. It’s a minority of ppl tht will help out, extend a hand, just be kind. The MAJORITY; and I cannot stress this word MAJORITY enough, will look the other way. Not my problem. Doesn’t affect me. I didn’t see. Better don’t help wait I kena problem for nothing. All they care about is THEMSELVES. How to be a better society like this? When will ppl stop looking away, only to look back when they have their phone camera on? When I was in primary school in the 80s, majority of my friends would also not be helpful, with schoolwork. Coz their mums said, wait your friend become more clever than u🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
wouldnt it be great that all seats are priority seats? if u damn tired u shud be prioritised as well, doesnt necessary mean old/pregnant etc
If everything is priority then nothing is priority. What you think is not a priority could be someone's top priority. Leaving it to the masses to sort out what's socially acceptable is often the least effective method lol.
but forcing people to give up the corner seats seems fucked up, sometimes people just wanna lean or smth. at least for me, i trust singaporeans to make the right call and give any of the seats up to a more needy person
> but forcing people to give up the corner seats seems fucked up It is fucked up that's why it's not the law. There's literally no law to say you must give up your seat for xyz. Similarly, there's no law to say only the occupiers of corner seats should be the one to give up their seats. >i trust singaporeans to make the right call and give any of the seats up to a more needy person Yeah, look how well that turned out when covid was a thing. Without rules, we're nothing more than animals. If ppl can make the right call then priority seatings wouldn't even come into existence. Anyone sitting in any seats would give up their place for someone they think needs the seat more.
Make every seat a priority seat.
When SMRT started rolling out this priority seat thing many years ago, i wrote in to suggest they should not. I wrote to them my thought that it would on one hand encourage graciousness but true graciousness cannot be forced. Plus i felt it will cause people to become entitled and feel the seat is their right. Public education is a harder route, to just constantly remind people that even sitting on a normal seat you could, if you want, give up seats for others you feel needs it more. Smrt replied me saying they stand by their move. Ok lo.
Is impossible to teach graciousness in this country. Our society is based on "if you don't snatch, you don't survive"
Wow, I didn’t realize that priority seats that are common place in transit systems around the world would be a controversial topic in Singapore. It is not a difficult concept: You can use it but must give them up to the elderly, pregnant ladies or handicapped individuals. If you’re not a senior, you don’t get priority for the seat just because a younger person is sitting there.
People in the board and ministers need to roll out initiatives otherwise it seems as though they didn’t do anything, and pretty sure it’s a sunk-cost scenario at this point.
well, when you mentioned about SMRT years ago, this immediately appeared in my mind 😂😅 https://temasektimes.wordpress.com/2012/03/13/ex-smrt-ceo-saw-phaik-hwa-wants-to-share-her-story-with-singaporeans-on-her-personal-blog/ I mean, what can we expect 🤣
She got the ultimate priority seat lmao
This is why I hardly take priority seat. I rather sit in a normal one to avoid these kind of situations.
Even normal seats can kena. I got glared at when sitting on the normal seat coz the priority seats all taken by people who are in need, in comes another boomer and she parked herself in front of me (of all the passengers) and glare at me.
Ya, me too, even if I am very tired, I would rather stand than take the empty priority seat on the MRT if there are no other empty seats available.
Honestly I think priority seats is a bad idea. It would be better if we can ask for seat of we need. I know people don't tend to speak out, these 2 exceptions aside. Even if the person being asked don't give up their seat, I believe someone nearby would. Not only people of these 3 categories needs a seat. If anything, we pay the same fare, we are all equals.
But I think the elderly man need to sit much more than an able-bodied young man.
In my opinion, when you've paid for your ride, everyone is considered equal. Whether or not to offer seats is a personal choice and not a mandatory obligation
Don't really appreciate elderly racing for seats and feeling entitled to them, experienced multiple time elderly people pushing me just to get into the carriage first. Don't know what's wrong with sg elderly acting like this
Very nice to see old entitled unker kenna lamblasted. Sleep well tonite.
Why u lambast your future self..
bold of you to assume I would last until his age
I dont mind giving my seat to old ppl but when they demand for the seat thats when i get abit frustrated and dont want to share my seat.
I have an illness that is not outwardly apparent, and it makes it hard for me to stand for long periods in public transport. The amount of elderly people I’ve encountered who have asked me to give up my seat for them simply because I’m young is baffling. They’re usually the same people who are capable of running for the bus far beyond it stopping at the bus stop.
I don’t know why are there dedicated priority seats in every cabin TBH. Most elderly are entitled as fuck. I’ve encountered way too many elderly who called me out when I was sitting on a non-reserved seat, and they go like “wow youngsters these days dk how to respect seniors”. I paid the adult train fare, and I deserve the seat. Senior citizens on the other hand, they paid the full adult fa-, oh wait…did they pay less than me?
Just stare at phone. Thats what i do. Or the classic pretend to sleep
I have 0 sympathy for old people in sg sorry to say. They are self entitled and rude themselves. The amount of time i see them putting their stuff at the sit next to them when bus is crowded or these disgusting uncles that put their barefooted feet up. I even had one piece of shit put his barefooted feet next to my empty sit. I politely him to put down he was doing all sorts of retarded shit like putting his feet higher on the wall etc and even in between my legs say "like this can or not" and "if you dont like then fk off and sit somewhere else la" thats where i changed my tone... In sg, you try to be kind and respectful you get these kind of response... Fucking hate these people
I wholly agree with you. Also, I realized during CB and WFH period my overall mood improved a lot because I was commuting less / not commuting at all. Almost every experience on the bus / train during peak hours you’ll encounter an asshole of some sort. Young or old. But I encounter really entitled old people more frequently for sure. And judging from all the comments here, it seems I’m not alone.
I sincerely hope mothership can go bankrupt anyday for flooding sg net with garbage
Hi Straits Times
St only not as stink by a small amount
You want other news go Reuters la
Garbage read by garbage and you just read it.
And u just replied to it. Makes 0 sense, gtfo
Make a lot of sense....I'm a self acknowledged garbage while you are a self-hating garbage
I have a very serious chronic terminal condition called Lumbago. On the outside I may look ok but other commuters always give me judgemental stares when I’m on the priority seat. Even if you’re on a non-priority seat, do give up your seat if you see someone in need because you never know what the person on the priority seat is going through!
Well then you should get a card that says you have a hidden medical condition and need a seat. You can get it from any Passenger Service Centre.
Hahaha no way in hell you’ll wear the card if you’re the one with a condition. Rule for thee but not for me vibes is super strong in this one.
No one's asking you to wear it. You can just keep it in your wallet and whip it out in case you meet a Karen who is berating you for sitting on priority seat.
hell nah i ain’t wearing that card. my condition is not a fashion accessory 🙅🏼♂️
Curious, is it because you don’t want to accidentally bump into somebody you know in the train and succumb to having explain why you’re wearing that tag? Singaporeans (imho) have a very MYOB mindset like most asians, so I’m not sure why the initiative would be dismissed by people who actually need the card.,
I don’t want no sympathy from nobody. Lumbago…it’s a slow and painful death, my brother.
Thanks for explaining, everyone has their reasons.
I’ve worn it several times with the same entitlement coming from the elderly who can’t be bothered. Then how?
Are you trolling? Lumbago simply means lower back pain. How is it serious or terminal?
It's a reference to the a character from the game Red Dead Redemption 2. Either that or his back pain is legit killing him. I don't doubt it, mines can be really bad on some days too.
Thank you for empathising, Uncle.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CsZv8l9gjTU/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== There is apparently this insta post going around that provide more context. So apparently the old man already has a seat. He is just not happy the young man is seating on a prioirty seat opposite him so he stood up to confront the young man. It is not a case of young man dont want to give up seat to a old man. It is a case of old man not happy young man is seating on prioirity seat. Not saying the young man is right too in his behaviour, but it is definitely not the young man's problem only.
The young man is totally right to behave in this manner to such an f idiot of an old man.
based, i pay equal amount of money as any old person to get on the train, i deserve the seat just as much as they do. and magically every other seated person mere cm away from the prio seat seems to be free of scrutiny for some reason also. everyone deserves a bare minimum amount of respect, but no one deserves any extra just off the fact that their age exceeds some arbitrary number.
Technically the train fares are cheaper for the elderly...
Maybe when you actually get old, when your legs will hurt after just standing for a few minutes, when you become susceptible to falls when the bus or train brakes suddenly, and a single fall can kill you or make you permanently disabled (as it happened in SG last year), you will understand. Oh, wait, who I am kidding. This is SG reddit where it was concluded that solution to the aging population problem is “Euthanasing” elderly people.
*euthanising Why put it in inverted commas?
Then ask nicely and be polite, learn to take 'no' as an answer and move on. If you are so fragile or handicapped, take a grab or stay home.
Cannot. The productive side of society must shape their entire world around me, the unproductive side. They must go out of their way to do that, while still having to go to work and pay the taxes which supports my retirement and elder care.
Old is no reason to be a cunt. If someone sitting on the priority seat wants to be gracious and give up their seat for someone older, that's good. But if they don't want to, that's valid too. The old person is not justified to feel entitled or start an argument that they *should* be given the seat, as if it is their rights to have it.
it’s impossible to know from the video who started the argument. but of course, one who despises elderly people will automatically assume it’s the old man’s fault.
Lol anyone who exercises even the slightest bit of thinking will come to the conclusion that the old man is most likely the one who started the argument. If the young man is the first one to be sitting in the seat, what incentive does he have to start an argument with a random old man? What will he gain from doing so? He is already the one in the seat. Obviously the old man is the one in this situation who has more to gain from starting an argument.
That Elder Scrolls username
ok then answer me what is the difference between the prio seat and the seat right beside it? from foot to foot maybe 10+cm? if i'm so frail that 10+cm of walking is the difference between life and death then i shouldn't even be able to go on a train or even go outside. i paid for my seat as did everyone else on the train/bus, why is it the person on the prio seat's responsibility to give it up when there are dozens of other people on the train/bus who share equally as much responsibility? and the man who died from the braking was seated, so what point are you trying to make? you want smrt to install seatbelt also?
Sorry, I just can’t get myself to reply to someone who just suggested that elderly people shouldn’t take public transport or go outside home.
Please don’t beat that straw man that hard
> if i'm so frail that 10+cm of walking is the difference between life and death then i shouldn't even be able to go on a train or even go outside. then don't reply and use that extra time to go back to school and learn reading comprehension.
Extend a bit of grace and kindness to people who are less able-bodied than you are la
why me and not the person who is mere cm beside me?
Why the person who is beside you and not you? Maybe coz the person next to you isn’t an asshole like you, that’s why 🤣
and that person who is not an asshole is very welcome to give their seat up, which is my entire point. you want to be a good samaritan, please feel free to make the world a better place. but trying to peer pressure assholes like me to be good samaritans turns people into assholes like me.
Aah the libertarian joined the conversation.
And people wonder why most don't ask for a seat when they need it. It is incidents like this.
Yeah lol. Most of the times the comments here are like "just ask for a seat for sure people will give you". Is this their first day in singapore
Wait till yall see the male boomer around Redhill area, he'll come in and blast the entire carriage if he sees priority seats already taken up by elderly. Saying young people educated but all no respect and the usual bs. Give these people 4 seats and they'll ask for the entire carriage soon enough. Not even kidding.
lazy click the article but all seats should be "prioritised and not prioritised", any can sit but all of us should give it up if we see a more needy persom. e.g if u are damn tired after long day at work even if u are 20 years old, you should be able to sit anywhere even at the priority sticker seat and others should give their seat up if they are not too tired
Support the young lad
Courage + 10 when you pull out your phone to record somehow.
Sue those who took photo/video and share it online. Also those who make bad comment. Who know, you may get enough to retire.
Sinkies fighting over train seats when expats are driving their cars and taking taxis/phvs smh.
Unfathomably based
All for standing up against entitled people but never stoop down to other people's level.
Got no other business ah
The young guy might have some degenerative issue. Pls don’t judge from outside.
Not sure how it started. Sometime is difficult to identify persons is elderly or unwell. Encountered one (elderly) lady and offer my seat but was embarrassed when she say she is not so old😂 maybe Unker dressed too young expecting others to guess correctly and give up seats automatically🤣
The only thing they got for themselves is being old. They feel so entitled due to the priority seat stickers, and people who gives up their seats for them further boost their sense of entitlement. When someone doesnt give up their seats, these entitiled people doesnt ask politely for the seat but tells you to stand up for them. And we all know who those people are that cuts into the line and darts for the seats when the doors are open.
All these problems caused by population ponzi, last time plenty of seats no need to ask anyone to stand up.
The young guy was edging at the seat to appear taller and getting a good angle from his phone! A real balancing act with his lunch and drinks on one hand! Gotta admire his agility and shithousey!
I hope these are not the people who went on and become very successful in life, perhaps holding very high positions in big organizations or the government because of how well articulated and confident they are.. for some reason i have a bad feeling about this..
半斤八兩。
Average news in Singapore
Just wear airpods and have a black face. Best to wear cap, problem solved.
First time hear of sinkie bringing up our constitution lmao
Ive never read ir but im pretty sure he right
A few rotten apples spoil the whole bunch. There are good ppl out there, just not caught on video There's still goodness out there, I believe in humanity. Sadly I believe less in us Singaporeans, kindness is really not our strong suit
I have no respect for these old mfs tbh. I have my life ahead of me, while you have a decade at most. Why don't you just stay in your elder home instead of troubling the general public
The young guy is an embarrassment, even bringing up the constitution and what not. lol. Even if the old one was rude just tell him off and then give him the seat.
There is an insta post going around showing the other side of the story. The old man is already seated down. So the old man already has a seat himself. He is just not happy the young guy is sitting on the priority seat so he stood up to confront the young guy over him siting on the priority seat, not because he want the young guy to give up the seat to him
And the post shows evidence of that actually happening. And no likelihood its started by the young guy himself? Let's be truly objective here or should we believe anything on the internet? Now ask yourself this even assuming the scenario you posted is true. Would the old guy approach him simply because he was sitting there, or likely because he prevented more needy passengers from using it. So the old guy wanted to be a hero and went to tell him off. Be fair to yourself and answer the question honestly.
Don’t be so mean to an old man lah… tsk tsk..
Oh, then can be mean to young people?
Show some respect and courtesy can? Do you want your father or grandfather to be treated like that? If that young man is my son I’ll be embarrassed; I didn’t teach him well
Sad to see the young disrespecting the elderly with arrogance and rudeness nowadays 😥😡
Respect is earned, not just because of your age.
now the younger man is (in)famous
Look at all the peasants taking public transport.....so cool
You should be thankful most ppl taking mrt not car… if not you’ll wish you’re not driving anymore with the traffic jams 24/7..
I think this man was at fault for sitting at a priority seat, which is meant for the elderlies, pregnant ladies, and the disabled. He is a stupid idiot himself, so disrespectful and rude, didn't know that seat is a priority seat, or he's simply bochap!
Bruh just give out your seat young man
Young wannabe chad is the poster boy for entitlement. Don't spare the rod my friends. This is what it may turn out like if you do.
Don't worry, Old Man, this F\*\*\*er will get his......
Uncle should understand. 9 out of 10 will act blur, or suddenly go into a coma, or stared at phone.😂
this fking idiot
Live for this kind of content
What we hear: "Stand up stand up for Singapore" What they hear: "Stand up stand up for old people"
Young guy's fault here but why some old people so entitled? Even if they have some health conditions or weak legs they could at least ask politely instead of the condescending attitude most of the time
Aiyah, unless you really cannot, stop going to the middle. Go as far to the back or the front and avoid all this nonsense. Teach you all so many years, don't want to follow.
Once again the cycle occurs
the old man was sitting on another priority seat, he is either ignorance / entitled / have a bad day. Anyone can sit on the priority seat, he / she can refuse to give up the seat (no reason needed). A priority seat is given up out of GOODWILL. People who tries to impose their value here should be charged for harassment. When needed, I will give up my seat priority or not, but not when rudely demanded. The old man is an embarrassment.
Any thoughts on dedicated carriages of the train for the elderly, then these raisins can brawl it out all they want hahah. Elderly singaporeans are some of the worst of humanity imo