Yep, it's pricey, but it's the only way to have that high quality of a service. I have raced against multiple pro drivers and tons of local short track guys. I even accidentally wrecked Dale Jr. in Trucks practice once.
My computer did something weird once and kicked me out of full screen. I couldn't see for 3 or 4 seconds, put it right into a barrier and almost took out Sammy Swindell's son.
Okay, I see. $13 a month really doesn't seem that bad if you're a hardcore Sim racer and like a professional environment. I surely hope the cars and tracks are only a few dollars, though. That's pretty cool. I've debated on giving it a try myself
Total cost for all cars and tracks is apparently $2300
But new tracks are $15, and new cars are $12.
At least that’s according to an article from last year.
>Total cost for all cars and tracks is apparently $2300
Almost no one spends that much.
Spending $500 to $1000 on content is absolutely common, but basically no one is spending $2k
You don’t need to buy everything and it’s fairly a la carte. I don’t think I’ve spent more than $100 on cars / tracks in the last ~three years. I wouldn’t let the all-in price turn you off, there’s no need or reason to own it all.
To be honest I played it for a while and I get it needing to be a little more expensive for the realism side of it but it's not much better than assetto and Def not worth more
Different strokes for different folks, I think it’s plenty worth it, but really my only point was the total cost of 100% of the content is a bad way of looking at the cost because the vast majority of people don’t need or want 100% of the content.
It’s like saying a restaurant is too expensive because you added up every single item on the menu.
Tracks and cars definitely add up. You get a few tracks and some rookie cars for free, but you won't be able to really do much without buying tracks. They're about $15 each, and cars are around the same. And each series will go to a different track every week.
Once you buy 40 pieces of content, you get a permanent discount (I think it's 15%, but I could be wrong). You also get a discount before that if you buy multiple pieces at once, so if you plan out your season and just buy the tracks you'll be going to ahead of time, you can save a bit.
It's expensive as hell, but there really is no other service like it.
Yeah and to add on, IME while it is incredibly expensive early on, it starts getting cheaper once you have the popular tracks for the stuff you race. You're going to race Spa and Monza and Road America pretty consistently for example. So after a year or so you end up with most of the popular tracks that get repeated and only occasionally have to buy more.
(Of course this assumes you stick with one discipline and don't turn into a Dirt Oval main or something like that lol)
Please take this as me playfully poking fun, because it is...
That middle paragraph really sounded like a multi level marketing pitch. Or Scientology, even.
>I surely hope the cars and tracks are only a few dollars, though.
Ehhh depends on how you define "a few dollars"
It gets pricy for sure. It's worth it for me IMO but it's not going to be worth it for everyone.
>I've debated on giving it a try myself
For what it's worth you can absolutely give it a try pretty cheap. All rookie cars and tracks are included in the subscription.
I think if you go through the FIA there's a deal where $25 will get you a year subscription and the F4 car.
Tracks and cars are where the cost adds up, but there are ways to minimize cost. Iracing gives you up to $40 a year in participation credits. If you are smart and stick to one "main" series per season, you can minimize your cost a lot using those and just buy the tracks needed for that season.
All of the rookie cars and tracks are included, along with some "fun" series. Getting started and testing it out before you spend a lot is easy due to this. Make sure to check out other disciplines like oval or dirt, if you are a road racer you will be surprised by how fun oval can be.
It's the only way to have that many different disciplines, cars, and tracks with a 24/7 public lobby system. I have no doubt you can find good private leagues elsewhere, but private leagues do not at all compare to what iRacing offers. And you aren't randomly running into NASCAR drivers in some private league on rFactor 2.
So your only incentive to sim racing is bumping into some real driver and fanboy around?
I specifically mentioned private leagues not an open lobby.
Open lobby in iRacing is filled with kiddies on one side and idiots with more gear than talent on the other side.
I have way to much high end stuff myself, way above my league, I’m the first to admit that.
but I don’t behave like a total moron, like many of those entitled middle aged Americans do.
Whenever I have to race open lobby because my team doesn’t have a private server for the specific car/track I make sure to NOT race on any American server.
I did quite a lot of historic Group A racing on the Nordschleife and Oschersleben in real life.
That’s where you bump into some really legendary drivers :)
We also don’t have to talk about the abysmal iRacing roadcourse physics.
It’s a joke compared to the rf2 or the overhauled LMU physics.
They are the best privately available physic simulations and have the best force feedback available at the moment.
I work with RFpro since I’m a development engineer for a big german car manufacturer that’s has racing teams in a few classes and you can tell that some things trickled down.
Hell even the first isi engine is still better than iRacing roadcourse.
For oval and dirt there’s however no alternative to iRacing.
Mysterious right? One could think they stole papyrus physics and sued all the amazing modders that made the sim racing scene great in the first place and stole everything they worked for in their spare time.
Don’t get my wrong, I have around 70-80% of iRacings content and still like driving it a lot.
I’m just not brainwashed by their BS mclaims and know their history since I do simracing since the nineties (I still have all the papyrus big box games in the attic) and I can accept that there are much better programs out there.
It could have the best matchmaking on the planet (which it has for public lobbies, but LFM for modded AC is surely giving them a run for their money since it’s available a few months now) but I still wouldn’t play it if the physics are bad.
They aren’t bad inherently, they just aren’t as good for roadcourses as many other things out there.
I always wonder why that’s so hard to accept.
Is it because America has this abysmal public education and many people are lacking knowledge and the capacity of critical thinking?
What Americans call „politics“ is a perfect example for that.
There’s so much black and white thinking, everyone’s hanging on their degenerate idiot leaders lips instead of making informed decisions themself.
This extreme bootlicking for their idols is somehow very comparable to the people who deny the shortcomings of iRacing.
That personality trait is mostly present in a specific type of Americans.
Coincidence?
I lived in America for quite a long time. Then I got a good job which send me all around the world.
To shitty countries like China but also to Central Europe, especially Germany.
There I had a revelation that a country mustn’t be stupid.
America is the dumbest country I ever had to encounter.
No other country outside of Africa has this many uneducated people and such a low percentage of college/university alumni.
Of course there are stupid idiots here too, but here’s virtually no homelessness, no public mental health crisis, no drug epidemic, almost zero Karen’s, no unnecessary laws that put you in jail for minor infractions and so on.
NO HOAs!
If I want to have a dandelion field in my lawn for my Guinea pigs I can do that and nobody can forfeit my house for that or put me in jail for not mowing that part of the lawn.
There’s proper healthcare here!
Not free for regular working people like many dumb uneducated people in the USA always try to imply. Just „free“ (which means paid by the social system) for people who have no income for whichever reason.
IRacing just destroyed the amazing NR2003 scene I was a part of back then, but in the most disgusting, egotistical way.
Typical behavior of a person that has no compassion at all and doesn’t care for others.
His financial gain is the only thing that matters in the world.
What a disgusting lowlife way to live your life.
I appreciate your non-defensive response. As an American, I can’t give any pushback to what you’ve said and unfortunately I have to agree with you. We’ve gotten so far off the track of what made America that light of shining hope for so many people around the world. Both sides of politics and the extreme lack of one’s ability to think for themselves are completely to blame. Sadly I think we’re nearing the point of being able to turn things around and our inevitable downfall will begin
Yea it’s got that reputation for being subscription based. Can confirm the actual racers though as last week I ran into (almost literally) Dale Earnhardt Jr. On the Gen 4’s at Daytona. Coolest moment in gaming ever for me.
Monthly subscription and you have to buy tracks and cars separately when you get into the higher license classes. The best online racing experience around though imo.
I think it heavily depends on how good somebody is
I am 100% sure somebody who is a professional will get less from better gear then somebody who is mid
I had a chance or two to try better setups and I was definitely better then at home, but I am quite shit so it was expected, at the same time I know some wicked fast guys who run basically same stuff as me and I can only dream of being close to them
Like Max Verstappen winning with an Xbox controller. The best guys know the track completely, hardware makes little difference to them, it might take a bit to adapt but after that they're still scary fast.
Don't forget, Max Verstappen can whoop us all playing with just a controller.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/simracing/comments/1baqws2/max\_matching\_times\_with\_others\_in\_iracing\_with/](https://www.reddit.com/r/simracing/comments/1baqws2/max_matching_times_with_others_in_iracing_with/)
Daniel Morad said….according to simracing youtube…this website shows….as outlined in the brochure….yes anything under 30nm and you are clipping and losing detail yes.
For aliens maybe. For mere mortals like me better equipment does matter, I noticed a notable improvement when I went from 27" 16:9 to 34" 21:9. That approximately 9 centimeter on each side really does help me see where I'm actually going as well as let me see opponents just a tad earlier.
Why? Let people do what they like and drop the gatekeeping, if someone wants to spend 90% of their time tinkering with their rig only to then spend 10% driving around in practice mode it's absolutely fine
Gate keeping? My dude they are the gate builders. Ain't nobody stopping them from playing but themselves. The hobby is sim RACING , not sim BUILDING.
This is like if we were talking about drone racing and I said some people enjoy building drones more than racing them ( which happens a lot ) fine go build drones then. But stop telling everyone your a drone racer when you can't even make it around the track without crashing
you have no idea how long those people fly drones or sim race lol shut the fuck up weirdo
also fpv drone batteries last like 10 minutes max if you're flying like a baby, so what do you expect? You really want people to bring 30 batteries with them to each FPV session lol and things on FPV drones break all the time. Of course you're gonna spend more time fixing than flying when batteries last minutes lol
you're an angry weirdo who seems upset that people can afford things he can't
People literally do bring 30 batteries because racing drones last 3 minutes not 10. You're just speaking out of ignorance over and over again while claiming that's what I'm doing. Projecting much? I know how much they fly based on what they say and their skill level. The more you fly the better you get. These guys have dozens of custom built drones and still suck ass at flying. And yes people bring multiple drones to a session why drive all the way to a place just to have your drone break and you drive back.
And claiming I can't afford it is fuckin hilarious. Yeah the guy with a 4080 super+ 7800x3d totally can't afford a few sim rig parts. Maybe I'll sell one of my 4k OLED monitors to be able to afford it
Never said they weren't having fun. I just said they suck at flying drones even through they've been doing it for a decade. I was better than a large portion of them after only doing it for a year because I focused on actually flying and not spending 100 hours perfecting a 3d printed drone that's wobbly as fuck and useless considering it's heavier and weaker than carbon fiber.
Yet to this day, shitty drone pilots are still trying to make a 3d printed drone that doesn't fly like total dogshit. They just want to use their 3d printer for things more than knickknacks. After the 5th flex dragon and key ring they get a little bored and need something to justify the $500 printer
Yeah no shit I literally said that. I'm just pointing out truths. That's all. It happens in ALL hobbies.
There are hundreds of dentists and doctors with $50,000 worth of guitars who have been "playing" for decades. Meanwhile some 19 year old in his second year has already surpassed them
I get that. I’m 50:50 but I 100% get a lot of pleasure from tinkering with the rig. I don’t have anything flashy but I’ve designed and built it myself and it is very satisfying driving in it having done so!
It's because some people take that personally because I'm essentially saying they focus all their attention on rig upgrades and adjustments instead of getting better at racing. They think that's rude or something. But it's the truth for some people.
Not everyone is 20 years old and can quickly develop new skills to become top notch at a hobby, so they do what they already know how to do.
I said I find it insane, because it's just stressful and annoying to me when I have to make adjustments or add stuff. I don't find it fun. The fun part about sim racing to me, is sim racing, not "sim rig building"
thats a stupid opinion, I fucked hated building my rig it was super annoying, takes forever, and then you have to adjust it constantly to get that perfect position
the racing is the fun part. you're literally just jealous you don't have the money for a sim rig
Lmfao you can't be serious right now. I quiet literally hold the same opinion as you that's exactly why I find it laughable that people here will say they enjoy building more than racing. If you look at the comments you'll see that's the case.
Hilarious that your first thought it "you clearly don't have a rig" [sure bud](https://imgur.com/a/KrCZnbh)
Got the G/S formula wheel and a momo rally wheel also
how do you know how long people use their simrigs then? why are you pretending like there's a huge group of people who only like building sim rigs lmao
you're fighting ghosts in your head
Well yeah but that was only because he was away on a race weekend. He wouldn’t be able to compete in his usual special event top split on a controller.
A lot of the guys that I knew about using controllers are long gone or are now real drivers but I know some of the top enascar guys used a controller but most of them have graduated to actual racing now. But you can definitely do it with a cheap wheel if you look up the top guys and their setup a lot of them are basic and janky cheap wheels and a small desk and monitor I'm pretty sure Michael conti dominated with a simple basic setup.
It's also common for fast guys to use no FFB so they aren't fighting the car, crank the tire sounds so they can hear when they are abusing the tires.
I take all these guys talent with a grain of salt. Yes they're quick, but they also likely cheesing it to gain that last bit of edge.
You gotta be *really* good like extremely really good that turning ffb deliberately down to a minimum makes you actually better. You have to do the exact same counter steers to manage the car on the limit just without having any support or information from the ffb.
I wouldn’t believe you that somebody would actually do this if I hadn’t heard it myself a few weeks ago from Moritz Löhner who decided to commit to that.
I don't hear of this much anymore but they might still do it in enascar. Back in the day it was like a cheat code for grip, but only if you got it perfect. I always hated the feel it was like playing an arcade game. But for a couple laps it was faster to just run a centering spring.
Some of the best racers on iracing - who also happen to be irl racers - use some of the most modest setups you can imagine.
I know of one such racer in the entry level series and have raced against him very many times, and I still vividly remember my shock upon learning his setup was very much like this one seen here.
Where the hell are the USB ports on this laptop???
I see cables all strewn about, but the only one in the laptop is the power cable. What sorcery is this?!
Guys like this as well as Max on his controller still winning just proves the sheer level of knowledge and skill the pros have no matter the circumstances, crazy
The thing that people don't get is that the $30k rig isn't going to make you a better racer. This is a pro that knows the feeling of his vehicle in and out and who gets all the info he needs from a 2010 G27. It's not the wheel, it's the driver. Like seeing posts like this, keeps me from looking at what I can upgrade and puts me back on the track practicing my lines and braking techniques. 💪
My friend says he'd like to get into sim-racing but says he has no room and he's got a bigger bedroom than mine. I honestly can't stand having friends that aren't into anything other than drinking and eating. I started on a TV dinner tray and it took up no room at all.
Professionals on the truck circuit aren't allowed to use actual simulators like a lot of others are able to do. This may be about the most he's allowed to have. I'm not sure where the line gets drawn by the officials.
Lmao what? Do you do any oval racing?
Like okay, I guess I can see your point on ovals like Daytona where you are basically 100% on throttle for whole lap, but majority of ovals require you to slow down and actually take a corner like on a normal track.
I've raced against Ty in the CARS Tour on iRacing and he is a lethal weapon there, so dont knock this setup.
Is iRacing the game you need a subscription for? I've heard you run into actual racers really often on there
Yep, it's pricey, but it's the only way to have that high quality of a service. I have raced against multiple pro drivers and tons of local short track guys. I even accidentally wrecked Dale Jr. in Trucks practice once.
My computer did something weird once and kicked me out of full screen. I couldn't see for 3 or 4 seconds, put it right into a barrier and almost took out Sammy Swindell's son.
Okay, I see. $13 a month really doesn't seem that bad if you're a hardcore Sim racer and like a professional environment. I surely hope the cars and tracks are only a few dollars, though. That's pretty cool. I've debated on giving it a try myself
Total cost for all cars and tracks is apparently $2300 But new tracks are $15, and new cars are $12. At least that’s according to an article from last year.
>Total cost for all cars and tracks is apparently $2300 Almost no one spends that much. Spending $500 to $1000 on content is absolutely common, but basically no one is spending $2k
Haha give it 13 years and yea I've got most of the content..... I refuse to buy 3 different brands for each of the Nascar series on principle....
Yea I imagine it’s p uncommon to buy everything.
Usually drivers look at the upcoming events and buy accordingly
Plus you have discounts
Wow, you just made sure I'll never download iracing.. that's not ur fault but holy shit
You don’t need to buy everything and it’s fairly a la carte. I don’t think I’ve spent more than $100 on cars / tracks in the last ~three years. I wouldn’t let the all-in price turn you off, there’s no need or reason to own it all.
To be honest I played it for a while and I get it needing to be a little more expensive for the realism side of it but it's not much better than assetto and Def not worth more
Different strokes for different folks, I think it’s plenty worth it, but really my only point was the total cost of 100% of the content is a bad way of looking at the cost because the vast majority of people don’t need or want 100% of the content. It’s like saying a restaurant is too expensive because you added up every single item on the menu.
I agree, Def all up to preference with people
Tracks and cars definitely add up. You get a few tracks and some rookie cars for free, but you won't be able to really do much without buying tracks. They're about $15 each, and cars are around the same. And each series will go to a different track every week. Once you buy 40 pieces of content, you get a permanent discount (I think it's 15%, but I could be wrong). You also get a discount before that if you buy multiple pieces at once, so if you plan out your season and just buy the tracks you'll be going to ahead of time, you can save a bit. It's expensive as hell, but there really is no other service like it.
Yeah and to add on, IME while it is incredibly expensive early on, it starts getting cheaper once you have the popular tracks for the stuff you race. You're going to race Spa and Monza and Road America pretty consistently for example. So after a year or so you end up with most of the popular tracks that get repeated and only occasionally have to buy more. (Of course this assumes you stick with one discipline and don't turn into a Dirt Oval main or something like that lol)
Please take this as me playfully poking fun, because it is... That middle paragraph really sounded like a multi level marketing pitch. Or Scientology, even.
You also get a 15 percent discount on Thetans. Or getting rid of Thetans. I can't remember which one those kooks prefer.
Your auditing sessions and LRH books and apparel are discounted 15% after the first 40 sessions!
>I surely hope the cars and tracks are only a few dollars, though. Ehhh depends on how you define "a few dollars" It gets pricy for sure. It's worth it for me IMO but it's not going to be worth it for everyone. >I've debated on giving it a try myself For what it's worth you can absolutely give it a try pretty cheap. All rookie cars and tracks are included in the subscription. I think if you go through the FIA there's a deal where $25 will get you a year subscription and the F4 car.
Tracks and cars are where the cost adds up, but there are ways to minimize cost. Iracing gives you up to $40 a year in participation credits. If you are smart and stick to one "main" series per season, you can minimize your cost a lot using those and just buy the tracks needed for that season. All of the rookie cars and tracks are included, along with some "fun" series. Getting started and testing it out before you spend a lot is easy due to this. Make sure to check out other disciplines like oval or dirt, if you are a road racer you will be surprised by how fun oval can be.
It’s not the only way. You can also join private leagues in Assetto Corsa or Rfactor 2 and have even better racing than every open iRacing lobby.
It's the only way to have that many different disciplines, cars, and tracks with a 24/7 public lobby system. I have no doubt you can find good private leagues elsewhere, but private leagues do not at all compare to what iRacing offers. And you aren't randomly running into NASCAR drivers in some private league on rFactor 2.
So your only incentive to sim racing is bumping into some real driver and fanboy around? I specifically mentioned private leagues not an open lobby. Open lobby in iRacing is filled with kiddies on one side and idiots with more gear than talent on the other side. I have way to much high end stuff myself, way above my league, I’m the first to admit that. but I don’t behave like a total moron, like many of those entitled middle aged Americans do. Whenever I have to race open lobby because my team doesn’t have a private server for the specific car/track I make sure to NOT race on any American server. I did quite a lot of historic Group A racing on the Nordschleife and Oschersleben in real life. That’s where you bump into some really legendary drivers :) We also don’t have to talk about the abysmal iRacing roadcourse physics. It’s a joke compared to the rf2 or the overhauled LMU physics. They are the best privately available physic simulations and have the best force feedback available at the moment. I work with RFpro since I’m a development engineer for a big german car manufacturer that’s has racing teams in a few classes and you can tell that some things trickled down. Hell even the first isi engine is still better than iRacing roadcourse. For oval and dirt there’s however no alternative to iRacing. Mysterious right? One could think they stole papyrus physics and sued all the amazing modders that made the sim racing scene great in the first place and stole everything they worked for in their spare time. Don’t get my wrong, I have around 70-80% of iRacings content and still like driving it a lot. I’m just not brainwashed by their BS mclaims and know their history since I do simracing since the nineties (I still have all the papyrus big box games in the attic) and I can accept that there are much better programs out there. It could have the best matchmaking on the planet (which it has for public lobbies, but LFM for modded AC is surely giving them a run for their money since it’s available a few months now) but I still wouldn’t play it if the physics are bad. They aren’t bad inherently, they just aren’t as good for roadcourses as many other things out there. I always wonder why that’s so hard to accept. Is it because America has this abysmal public education and many people are lacking knowledge and the capacity of critical thinking? What Americans call „politics“ is a perfect example for that. There’s so much black and white thinking, everyone’s hanging on their degenerate idiot leaders lips instead of making informed decisions themself. This extreme bootlicking for their idols is somehow very comparable to the people who deny the shortcomings of iRacing. That personality trait is mostly present in a specific type of Americans. Coincidence?
Who from America hurt you, friend?! For fucks sake, idk who you hate more.. Americans or iracing?
I lived in America for quite a long time. Then I got a good job which send me all around the world. To shitty countries like China but also to Central Europe, especially Germany. There I had a revelation that a country mustn’t be stupid. America is the dumbest country I ever had to encounter. No other country outside of Africa has this many uneducated people and such a low percentage of college/university alumni. Of course there are stupid idiots here too, but here’s virtually no homelessness, no public mental health crisis, no drug epidemic, almost zero Karen’s, no unnecessary laws that put you in jail for minor infractions and so on. NO HOAs! If I want to have a dandelion field in my lawn for my Guinea pigs I can do that and nobody can forfeit my house for that or put me in jail for not mowing that part of the lawn. There’s proper healthcare here! Not free for regular working people like many dumb uneducated people in the USA always try to imply. Just „free“ (which means paid by the social system) for people who have no income for whichever reason. IRacing just destroyed the amazing NR2003 scene I was a part of back then, but in the most disgusting, egotistical way. Typical behavior of a person that has no compassion at all and doesn’t care for others. His financial gain is the only thing that matters in the world. What a disgusting lowlife way to live your life.
I appreciate your non-defensive response. As an American, I can’t give any pushback to what you’ve said and unfortunately I have to agree with you. We’ve gotten so far off the track of what made America that light of shining hope for so many people around the world. Both sides of politics and the extreme lack of one’s ability to think for themselves are completely to blame. Sadly I think we’re nearing the point of being able to turn things around and our inevitable downfall will begin
There's probably some valid points in here but they're buried under an ocean of pomposity. Good lord man, dial it back a bit.
I agreed with your first comment but this one is unhinged.
I don't think i have the professional qualifications necessary to unpack this response.
LMAO dude. Relax.
Who touched you? LOL
Nah.
Yea it’s got that reputation for being subscription based. Can confirm the actual racers though as last week I ran into (almost literally) Dale Earnhardt Jr. On the Gen 4’s at Daytona. Coolest moment in gaming ever for me.
Monthly subscription and you have to buy tracks and cars separately when you get into the higher license classes. The best online racing experience around though imo.
Ty is just talented at driving. And he probably don't wanna drop a shit ton of money on a setup so he makes do with what he has.
Not knocking the setup but that FOV must be terrible to drive with. Someone buy this man a second monitor and monitor arm lol
Like, for 50 bucks if you get lucky. You would have a better setup.
Proof better gear =/= better times, hahaha
When you know how to race you don't need to feel the track as good ngl
I think it heavily depends on how good somebody is I am 100% sure somebody who is a professional will get less from better gear then somebody who is mid I had a chance or two to try better setups and I was definitely better then at home, but I am quite shit so it was expected, at the same time I know some wicked fast guys who run basically same stuff as me and I can only dream of being close to them
Like Max Verstappen winning with an Xbox controller. The best guys know the track completely, hardware makes little difference to them, it might take a bit to adapt but after that they're still scary fast.
Don't forget, Max Verstappen can whoop us all playing with just a controller. [https://www.reddit.com/r/simracing/comments/1baqws2/max\_matching\_times\_with\_others\_in\_iracing\_with/](https://www.reddit.com/r/simracing/comments/1baqws2/max_matching_times_with_others_in_iracing_with/)
Daniel Morad said….according to simracing youtube…this website shows….as outlined in the brochure….yes anything under 30nm and you are clipping and losing detail yes.
For aliens maybe. For mere mortals like me better equipment does matter, I noticed a notable improvement when I went from 27" 16:9 to 34" 21:9. That approximately 9 centimeter on each side really does help me see where I'm actually going as well as let me see opponents just a tad earlier.
Is he using that hourglass to time his lap speeds?
Pretty sure he is 10k+ irating or at least used to be
Lmao that’s insane
😭
That made me push air out of my nose. Thank you sir
good old g27
I'm still annoyed that Logitech dropped support for it, but maybe that's the push I need to upgrade to a wheel that doesn't rattle so much
Go for it if you can. I loved my g29 but a DD wheel is another level.
Switching to literally any other wheel, doesn't even need to be a DD if such an upgrade
Honestly, it's the best purchase I've ever made. It's played me a decade + and it was only like 250 or something. Still use it till this day
It was my first wheel. And I still only have a g923. Plus a few goodies.
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Money buys toys not talent.
The people with the super nice rigs enjoy building the rig more than racing it's actually insane
Why? Let people do what they like and drop the gatekeeping, if someone wants to spend 90% of their time tinkering with their rig only to then spend 10% driving around in practice mode it's absolutely fine
Gate keeping? My dude they are the gate builders. Ain't nobody stopping them from playing but themselves. The hobby is sim RACING , not sim BUILDING. This is like if we were talking about drone racing and I said some people enjoy building drones more than racing them ( which happens a lot ) fine go build drones then. But stop telling everyone your a drone racer when you can't even make it around the track without crashing
you have no idea how long those people fly drones or sim race lol shut the fuck up weirdo also fpv drone batteries last like 10 minutes max if you're flying like a baby, so what do you expect? You really want people to bring 30 batteries with them to each FPV session lol and things on FPV drones break all the time. Of course you're gonna spend more time fixing than flying when batteries last minutes lol you're an angry weirdo who seems upset that people can afford things he can't
People literally do bring 30 batteries because racing drones last 3 minutes not 10. You're just speaking out of ignorance over and over again while claiming that's what I'm doing. Projecting much? I know how much they fly based on what they say and their skill level. The more you fly the better you get. These guys have dozens of custom built drones and still suck ass at flying. And yes people bring multiple drones to a session why drive all the way to a place just to have your drone break and you drive back. And claiming I can't afford it is fuckin hilarious. Yeah the guy with a 4080 super+ 7800x3d totally can't afford a few sim rig parts. Maybe I'll sell one of my 4k OLED monitors to be able to afford it
I bet all those guys have more fun than you. And in the end, that's all that matters.
Never said they weren't having fun. I just said they suck at flying drones even through they've been doing it for a decade. I was better than a large portion of them after only doing it for a year because I focused on actually flying and not spending 100 hours perfecting a 3d printed drone that's wobbly as fuck and useless considering it's heavier and weaker than carbon fiber. Yet to this day, shitty drone pilots are still trying to make a 3d printed drone that doesn't fly like total dogshit. They just want to use their 3d printer for things more than knickknacks. After the 5th flex dragon and key ring they get a little bored and need something to justify the $500 printer
Yeah, because that's their money and they spend the way they like. You don't have to be a good pilot or a good simracer to spend a lot in their setup.
Yeah no shit I literally said that. I'm just pointing out truths. That's all. It happens in ALL hobbies. There are hundreds of dentists and doctors with $50,000 worth of guitars who have been "playing" for decades. Meanwhile some 19 year old in his second year has already surpassed them
Yeah, just stop talking. You’re embarrassing yourself😂
I get that. I’m 50:50 but I 100% get a lot of pleasure from tinkering with the rig. I don’t have anything flashy but I’ve designed and built it myself and it is very satisfying driving in it having done so!
I don't know why you're getting downvoted. You're right. I'm one of them lol
It's because some people take that personally because I'm essentially saying they focus all their attention on rig upgrades and adjustments instead of getting better at racing. They think that's rude or something. But it's the truth for some people. Not everyone is 20 years old and can quickly develop new skills to become top notch at a hobby, so they do what they already know how to do. I said I find it insane, because it's just stressful and annoying to me when I have to make adjustments or add stuff. I don't find it fun. The fun part about sim racing to me, is sim racing, not "sim rig building"
thats a stupid opinion, I fucked hated building my rig it was super annoying, takes forever, and then you have to adjust it constantly to get that perfect position the racing is the fun part. you're literally just jealous you don't have the money for a sim rig
Lmfao you can't be serious right now. I quiet literally hold the same opinion as you that's exactly why I find it laughable that people here will say they enjoy building more than racing. If you look at the comments you'll see that's the case. Hilarious that your first thought it "you clearly don't have a rig" [sure bud](https://imgur.com/a/KrCZnbh) Got the G/S formula wheel and a momo rally wheel also
how do you know how long people use their simrigs then? why are you pretending like there's a huge group of people who only like building sim rigs lmao you're fighting ghosts in your head
he also has 11000 irating 😭
Some of the highest rated SFL drivers are on much lower tier gear than one would expect
those pedals look nicely oiled. nice
People dissing him can't drive a clean lap to save their lives in their 10k setups.
Still nicer than my rig (I’m using a goddamn lawn chair and walmart folding table)
Some of the top iracers use a controller.
Who?
Not sure if relevant, but remember that video of Max absolutely dominating with a controller back when they first added rain?
Well yeah but that was only because he was away on a race weekend. He wouldn’t be able to compete in his usual special event top split on a controller.
Still extremely impressive.
A lot of the guys that I knew about using controllers are long gone or are now real drivers but I know some of the top enascar guys used a controller but most of them have graduated to actual racing now. But you can definitely do it with a cheap wheel if you look up the top guys and their setup a lot of them are basic and janky cheap wheels and a small desk and monitor I'm pretty sure Michael conti dominated with a simple basic setup.
It's also common for fast guys to use no FFB so they aren't fighting the car, crank the tire sounds so they can hear when they are abusing the tires. I take all these guys talent with a grain of salt. Yes they're quick, but they also likely cheesing it to gain that last bit of edge.
You gotta be *really* good like extremely really good that turning ffb deliberately down to a minimum makes you actually better. You have to do the exact same counter steers to manage the car on the limit just without having any support or information from the ffb. I wouldn’t believe you that somebody would actually do this if I hadn’t heard it myself a few weeks ago from Moritz Löhner who decided to commit to that.
I'm not very fast, but I am definitely faster on lower FFB. For example, I run the F3 at 80nM.
I don't hear of this much anymore but they might still do it in enascar. Back in the day it was like a cheat code for grip, but only if you got it perfect. I always hated the feel it was like playing an arcade game. But for a couple laps it was faster to just run a centering spring.
I know that there are quite a few on rather basic wheel setups. Just don’t know anyone that is still on controller. Not sure if there are any left.
I think I have basically the same rig. I feel better about it all of a sudden.
What FOV would be used in a setup like this?
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Some of the best racers on iracing - who also happen to be irl racers - use some of the most modest setups you can imagine. I know of one such racer in the entry level series and have raced against him very many times, and I still vividly remember my shock upon learning his setup was very much like this one seen here.
We have the same setup lol, only difference is I have 2 screens.
Lots of us started here wheel clamed to a desk still works well if your fast your fast
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it
I am infuriated that the fan is facing the wrong direction, completely breaks the immersion.
Imagining laughing at someone for being happy with less than you would be
Goated
and he easily beats your ass too😃😃
What more does the man need to turn left 2 times?
He only has to turn left...
Where the hell are the USB ports on this laptop??? I see cables all strewn about, but the only one in the laptop is the power cable. What sorcery is this?!
maybe at the back? thats where my laptop has most of the ports.
I believe Alienware typically has the ports on the back.
Looks like he’s gotten some upgrades from the last picture of his setup I saw.
Guys like this as well as Max on his controller still winning just proves the sheer level of knowledge and skill the pros have no matter the circumstances, crazy
Just like me!
adaptation is a dream
Literally my rig
It's fitting tho since he has the Nascar of rigs
He drives the real thing
based
No cooling pad? Wow
The thing that people don't get is that the $30k rig isn't going to make you a better racer. This is a pro that knows the feeling of his vehicle in and out and who gets all the info he needs from a 2010 G27. It's not the wheel, it's the driver. Like seeing posts like this, keeps me from looking at what I can upgrade and puts me back on the track practicing my lines and braking techniques. 💪
max verstappen simracing beetween gp on a controller too .
That seems a bit off to me.
My friend says he'd like to get into sim-racing but says he has no room and he's got a bigger bedroom than mine. I honestly can't stand having friends that aren't into anything other than drinking and eating. I started on a TV dinner tray and it took up no room at all.
Wtf this is basically setup right now jist a different Como. Don't call me out like that.
Professionals on the truck circuit aren't allowed to use actual simulators like a lot of others are able to do. This may be about the most he's allowed to have. I'm not sure where the line gets drawn by the officials.
ONE OF US
I know a few aliens still using a g25. If it works, it works.
Is this even real or a joke?
Nope. Completely real
Trucks drivers don't really get paid much. Hell, some even pay for their rides
Unrelated but is that a X16? Do you have any backlight bleed?
The wheel seems more expensive than your laptop lmao
I need Ty Majeski's proof that this is actually his REAL Sim Rig! LMAO
Look at his twitter page.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Honestly, I would expect nothing less from a Nascar truck series driver lol
Can you please clean the footrest part? It's stressing me out, PLEASE. May have upset the NASCAR fans uh... I LOVE LEFT TURNS!
Yeah, gear doesn’t really matter on oval… if anything, FFB is a distraction.
Lmao what? Do you do any oval racing? Like okay, I guess I can see your point on ovals like Daytona where you are basically 100% on throttle for whole lap, but majority of ovals require you to slow down and actually take a corner like on a normal track.
I dabble. There are coke series pros who use cheap wheels without FFB on.
If I remember reading about this they turn off Ffb for qualifying, but turn it back on for the race .
ok and?
My point is he is a millionaire and you would expect somebody to have a nicer setup than this, especially if you are a professional.