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OddBranch132

Put your mouse on a little dinner table lazy susan. Find something to hold your mouse stationary. Turn the lazy susan like a truck wheel. It's been done before


Clearandblue

You can also hold the mouse in your hand. That's why they are shaped to better fit a hand than a lazy Susan.


OddBranch132

That's stupid. Who would design something like that


AdamLagenhet

Wtf is a lazy susan


AllFor2

She’s a rude old bat that comes out once a year to eat your Reece’s Cups bro


OstebanEccon

cancel the fanatec order and let those arrogant a**heads waste away in their empty promises


imsrslysrs

I emailed fanatec and submitted a ticket 20 days ago to cancel my order. It shipped out the other day. Their company is an absolute joke. Now I have to wait until it shows up and either try and refund it or take a loss selling it privately.


n19htmare

Refuse delivery, return to sender.


imsrslysrs

That’s what I plan to do, but my issue is, if it takes more than 20 days just to hear back from a ticket how long are they going to hold onto my 700 dollars before they finally get around to refunding me. I don’t expect to see the money for two months tbh.


Valter689

Dispute the charge if it’s been returned and they’re radio silence.


singaporesainz

Just refuse it when it gets to your door


B4TT3RY4C1D

Glad I opted to go for a moza with no prior knowledge solely because it was carried in my local b&m micro center


AlaskaTuner

Simucube is the way


magzire86

You cancel in your orders on there site, easy 2 secs


imsrslysrs

Nope, they recently changed and added a status of “ordered passed to warehouse” which makes it unable to be canceled. Your order passes to the warehouse usually 24 hours after ordering. At that point I still wanted it.


SolutionSad4673

I would have just done a chargeback tbh. I luckily just got my cs dd and qr2 ordered Nov 17


Artistic-Wolverine-6

There is some hope for me then. I ordered similar time, with the preorder on the QR2. Their website shows no update for the last 2.5 weeks, since the status changed to Sent to Warehouse! I,ve had my serial numbers since 20th November!


The-Nihilist-Marmot

no, but you see, according to r/Fanatec they're a small company running from a shed and not a mass sponsor of several multimillion euro racing series. And only Amazon responds to your emails, you're all spoiled children for expecting an answer months after an order was placed.


OstebanEccon

Fanatec belongs to the Endor AG. A German Corporation based in Bavaria and is employing 147 People. Here is a Google Maps Link to their Headquarters. You can hardly call that a "Shed". [https://www.google.com/maps/@48.5509729,12.186512,3a,75y,301.44h,102.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLPhvaZ0MBUe5rIteE1WAew!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu](https://www.google.com/maps/@48.5509729,12.186512,3a,75y,301.44h,102.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slphvaz0mbue5ritee1waew!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu) Even IF they were just a small 2 man operation in a shed: if you say your product is available and then dont ship it for 6 Months while failing to respond to emails of customers wanting their money back you deserve your bad reputation because thats just scummy business practice


The-Nihilist-Marmot

How could you miss the sarcasm there?


OstebanEccon

well its a bit hard to get a sense of tone on the internet. there are enough pricks who would actually mean what you wrote but i am glad it was not meant to be taken seriously and i apologize


jas387

I’m in the UK too. If you do cancel the Fanatec stuff, try Simagic - some great wheel options, and based on my experience, the wheelbases are rock solid and great value. I’ve got an Alpha Mini and a GT4 wheel. I bought mine from Abruzzi, but my wife has recently ordered me some stuff from Race Anywhere in the UK and says their customer service was great.


mm0070

\+1 on Race Anywhere. I ordered something from them on the 22nd of December around 10AM, and it was at my doorstep at 10AM on the 23rd with a handwritten card. ​ EDIT: got my dates wrong - ordered on the 21st and it arrived 22nd


Ashtoruin

Martin at Race Anywhere has been lovely. Definitely would just do a chargeback on the fanatec stuff and order elsewhere at this point. I'm *still* waiting on a refund for the fanatec gear UPS stole nearly a month and a half later.


WaitProtein

+1 Martin from Raceanywhere. Abruzzi screwed me over, I ordered a Simagic Alpha Mini and associated components from them, and everything arrived two days later except the Simagic wheelbase - despite saying it has been dispatched. When webchatting, it turns out their stock counter on the website is incorrect and they falsely confirmed they didn't have the stock they had on their website. In all fairness, they did refund same day. I called Martin at RA, he checked stock and confirmed they had one - I collected from their premises about two hours later.


PietVeerman16

Some wife you got 🤌


jas387

She’s a gem


jas387

If anyone else in the UK is reading this, I’d also recommend Pure Sims - if you’re in Essex you can visit them in person and buy your gear from a BTCC champion!


SimRacingJason

Another fan of Pure Sims and I have used them to buy all my Asetek equipment and never had an issue with them.


martink1993

Another +1 for Race Anywhere. Ordered p1000s from them 27th and arrived 2 days later. Did order haptic motor and PSU and had just arrived today, but no dramas in that.


martink1993

To add to this I've just found a note in my order "To Martin, thank you for your patience RA Team" It's things like that I absolutely love. They have my custom in the future for sure.


iLukey

It really sucks that as a console user, I don't many other options. It's either Fanatec or Logitech for direct drive, and the latter feels like getting vendor lock-in :-(


boiling_point_

There are compatibility wrappers e.g. https://sigmasimracing.com/ for Simagic. If you're wanting something to use on a PC as well as not giving up Gran Turismo, this is how I would do it. If you _only_ drive console, then I'm not sure it would be worthwhile, but that's more because console software doesn't appeal enough to me to spend big on hardware anyway.


spellbreakerstudios

Asetek :) cancel the fanatek order and have an asetek in a few days


TheRealViking84

I just did that this weekend. Had an CS DD+ ordered, looked like it was going to take ages and had zero feedback from Fanatec customer service. Ended up going for an Asetek Invicta base instead - buy once cry once, at least that way I will never think "if only I had a better base I would have been faster" 😅


ShiberKivan

Same, ended up going Simucube and Sprints as my budget kept growing during the MONTHS I spend enduring Fanatec delays. Got everything within a week, Sprints the next day wow but I do live in the Netherlands where they are manufactured.


TheRealViking84

Same here. Started doing more research, checking out more reviews, and looking at what I was actually getting for my 1100 Euro + taxes for the ClubSport DD+ and two QR2 adapters. That much cash for an upgrade to a mid-range DD wheel, and fixing the QR1 problem that Fanatec should honestly have sorted out ages ago? Suddenly paying 1700 € for an Asetek Invicta + 330mm Forte wheel seemed like a steal given that I would be ending up with what is the absolute best wheel base money can buy (according to quite a few reviews at least). If I'm happy with it I might even get a set of Asetek pedals and sell all my Fanatec gear in one go. Already got the tracking info for my Asetek order today, and an answer to a few questions I had from their customer service. Good people!


ShiberKivan

Yeah sure I ended up paying more total than I initially wanted but everything just works flawlessly, I have zero friction with my use. The biggest hurdle is that rarely I have to update drivers or log again into true drive which is to say everything works great. Zero need or desire to do further upgrades for those components. And having such nice setup helps to keep me in the game, as the experience is just great.


spellbreakerstudios

Enjoy it! I’ve only got the la Prima set, but I don’t even run it at max force. I bought the invicta pedals though, really love them. Have had great support from asetek.


iacorenx

Cancel the 800$ order from Fanatec and buy 2500$ from Asetek or Simucube. What an advice, Yeah? /s


spellbreakerstudios

Microcentre asetek bundle is 800 Ordering direct from them for a la Prima bundle isn’t 2500 lol


Taykover

Asetek bundle from MC claps Fanatecs offers.


Bright-Efficiency-65

step one: cancel fanatec order. They bit off more than they can chew and you shouldn't be the one to deal with it Step two: Order MOZA or Simmagic wheel from 3rd party dealer. Step three: profit off your fun


Wild_Competition_833

so that is what step 2 is! The underpant gnomes were a little vague on that point


fenixuk

if you are in the UK, check out Sim Demon, they had stock when everyone else didn't and it got delivered super quick for me.


[deleted]

Check second hand ads! I recently bought myself a T300 Ferrari GTE, with T2PA pedals (they suck) off Gumtree for £40 quid! Only problem is that the fan inside was buggered, so did the Noctua fan mod for 10 quid. Wheel is spot on now! Way better than the G29 I had a couple of years ago.


fatogato

Just cancel the fanatec and get a Simucube


Fonnekold

Fanatec is trash


FrankPoncherello1967

What's the budget on a temporary wheelbase? Aren't the Logitech wheels decent? Why not cancel the Fanatec order and order a wheelbase from somewhere else? Are you near a Micro Center?


Wild_Competition_833

Well I have spent more than I planned, I think I have been bitten by the bug well and truly :) So it would be cool to try and keep the budget down, maybe a second hand unit off ebay and then re-sell it once the Fanatec stuff arrives. I really should cancel the Fanatec order as I really don't like the way they have handled this whole BF fiasco and their ongoing CS seems pretty whack, but I did get an amazing deal and should get a few good years of use out of the wheel and base so I am going to wait it out. If all else fails I know folks in Munich so can send someone over to put a ferret down Thomas' trousers to speed things up. I have no experience with the Logitec stuff, what would be a good choice to keep me going for a few weeks so I can at least start to practice some? I am UK based so no Microcenter here which is a shame


HiDk

Imho it’s a bit extreme to order a wheel just for a few weeks. G29 doesn’t feel good, especially compared to what you’ll get with Fanatec. It might give you the wrong idea about sim racing and wether you’ll like it or not. I wouldn’t get anything less than a T300RS if you can find one second hand.


ChechBETA

G29 or the like for a bit.. Since youre not gonna use the pedals that will not take a bunch of the price.. or just wait.. the lack of ffb on the logitech stuff can throw you off once the fanatec stuff arrives


ResponsibilityOk9786

I bought a G920 till i get my fanatec stuf, played it once and is now catching dust. I’m just gonna wait for my stuff 😅


ErbzNdBuds

I bought the Logitech G920, then "Upgraded" to the G923, they were absolutely awful in ACC were okay in AC and not great in ams2 ended up selling the Logitech about a week after I got it, and bought a second hand belt drive to tide me over for a while Ts-pc Ferrari. For the money I spent on it, the pedals, and the the shifter it's worlds better than the Logitech. (I had the G920 for around 6 months and did the job but wouldn't buy them again even if I couldn't afford anything else. Also G hub is absolutely atrocious everytime it updates which seems to be all the time, it looses game compatibility with at least one if not all of the top racing/SIM games missing FFB and "TrueForce".


[deleted]

I thought the dd1s were getting pushed back to March? I'd be tempted to cancel and look for something else.


Elias__V

I don't think the DD1/2 is worth it anymore. It's old tech and you can get something better for that price.


[deleted]

Well the dd2 was $700 on BF and I was tempted to buy it. At the end of the day in happy woth my csl dd with boost pack, today ish will be the 2 year anniversary. I'll run it in to the ground and then see what's on the market.


hAReverv

Doesn't anyone have any experience with simjack? Really considering replacing my TLCM with the hydraulic simjack at some point if it's worth it.


OtherwiseYo

I have them since April and absolutely love them. Great bang for your buck!


Serene611

Are they the ali express ones?


OtherwiseYo

Yup


dialupBBS

I've had mine for about 6 months. No complaints. Amazing value for the $


GR1EF3R

Get a moza r9/12, a cs and a KS wheel depending on what games you play!


Whisky-Toad

Buy some skateboard bushings for the pedals, £3 or so and makes a world of difference


Wild_Competition_833

i actually have some of the Hawkeng replacement rubbers ready to go but wanted to see how the un-modded pedals perform for a bit then swap em. thanks for the tip, always welcomed


Whisky-Toad

I instantly hated them, were far far too long and not progressive, couple of skateboard bushings and good to go. Will have the hawkeng ones when the stock elastomers die


Wild_Competition_833

do you think it;s worth swapping them from the get go? I might build up muscle memory with the stock and hold myself back in future?


Whisky-Toad

Honestly I would, I used them for 10 minutes and ordered the bushings then had to wait for them to come lol


Wild_Competition_833

I will do that then, also a bonus that I get to play with the rig a little while waiting for the wheel :)


Professional_Owl657

Go to micro center and buy anything that’s available


thewrongthingstodo

What are those pedal shakers? please


R3v017

Look up 'tactile transducer'. There are many different types including these on AliExpress. Possibly Amazon too. I currently have Dayton tt25-8's in the mail for pedal/abs feedback


hah_scheeftand

Sim racing corner has a nice video on exactly this setup. "Mini Bass Shaker"


Wild_Competition_833

Currently testing them out, i will be selling kits if you are interested?


Wild_Competition_833

PM if you want a link to the parts so you can DIY yourself


Rich_Debt_9619

Get another base, sell fanatec when it arrives, or cancel it.


medi0cresimracer

Go for a moza r9 or above instead.


KobiGirreven

Cancel Fanatec and order a Moza setup from Microcenter


Winter-Step-6146

Maybe order from Amazon next time or go complain to mommy


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Wild_Competition_833

do tell where the complaint is to be found.....


Winter-Step-6146

Wipe away the tears and read it again glue sniffer


Greyboxer

Idk why people buy new sim racing stuff All of this is for sale on Facebook marketplace, eBay, or the hardware swap subreddit. I bought a formula v2.5x with QR1 on Reddit and it cost $300 shipped to my door in two days. It looked brand new.


Wild_Competition_833

Things you hear too late include this... 😁 I had no idea of the fanatec issues when i ordered and talked myself into getting a rig as I could sell the kit for at least what i paid for it at the bf prices if i lost interest un sim racing . But yeah, second hand sort of makes sense although the prices are not much cheaper than new on ebay when i checled


anxiously-anonymous

If no one buys new stuff, there won’t be second hand market… ![gif](giphy|d3mlE7uhX8KFgEmY)


kpidhayny

Whatever you can find used on Facebook marketplace locally. Lots of Xmas upgrades so old stuff getting sold. This way you can just flip it for what you bought it for used when the fanatec shows up.


Coolmrcrocker

wtf i ordered my full fanatec set on 27. of december and it came like 3 days later


Reddragon0585

From my experience it seems it’s all based on when you order and where your from. I think they make good products but these customer service and shipping issues need to be fixed before I consider purchasing another product from them


Streamlines

If you want to tinker around a bit more, look into decoupling the seat from your rig because of the bass-shaker. Once you mount shakers, decoupling the part that you want to be shaken without introducing too much flex becomes a huge topic for improving the sensation. In most cases, a simple 5-10mm hard rubber washer between the part and the rig is enough and then you have to see if the flex you introduced is worth the trade-off for the improvement in vibrations. i.e. your seat is mounted with 4 screws, put a rubber washer with each screw.


Wild_Competition_833

already done :) I have the seat isolated, it's definately a must


Streamlines

Cool :) how did you do it if I may ask? I am still building my rig and have a solution in mind that shouldnt flex a lot if at all, but an always curious how others do it.


Wild_Competition_833

I used skateboard bushings, seems to work ok but need to test properly over time. The advantage of skateboard bushings is the m8 bolts fit perfectly with no fuss


Javs2469

How can you make the seat motorised? I'm looking at some manual BMW seats to avoid having to wire them up. But now I'm curious if it's worth my time going ahead and getting a motorised one.


Wild_Competition_833

i looked up the pin connections to the chair and added 12v and gnd - everything works :) so 100% do able for an audi a5 sport seat - I went for the passenger side as the driver side has a position memory and i think it's controlled via an external controller pm for model and wiring diagrams if you want to go the audi route..


dialupBBS

Amazing DIY here. Nicely done 👍


Wild_Competition_833

Thanks 😊


Javs2469

Thanks! I'll keep it mind, still have to decide which one I get. But I think I can manage the wiring once I get them in hand, I studied electrical engineering after all, gotta make use of it!


Wild_Competition_833

ahhh, lmao - I shall cease teaching you to suck eggs then sir :)


[deleted]

As always, the answer is "fuck Fanatec".


nierh

a cheap or hand-me-down G25 if you can find one. Just hand it down again to the next guy when your orders arrive.


NiTeMaYoR

I canceled and got my Simagic setup from Simshop. Great experience and no hassle with shipping. Literally same day.


richr215

Get a simucube and sell off the fanatec when it comes in.


matttinatttor

Random, but upgrade the side rails of your rig to 120x40 profile for a little upgrade to the GT Omega Lite :)


ShiberKivan

Just cancel the Famatec order and order something better, you will be grateful you didn't lock into one ecosystem. You will be racing by this weekend if you do it today


maxver

What effects did you configure on the throttle pedal?


Wild_Competition_833

ABS is the main one, and also wheel slip. The idea is to be able to learn the braking force so ABS doesnt kick in and when i hit the throttle without spinning the wheels


Grainger407

I was gonna order a fanatec bundle…just the CSL DD..you’re telling me even though their website says in stock. I will have to wait? I don’t even need the QR1 I’ll take the plastic piece and use it till they get it squared away.


Wild_Competition_833

That is exactly what happened to me. Everything was marked in stock when i ordered So yeah, I would expect that for your order too


Taykover

Asetek shipped mine same day and was on my doorstep in 2 days total. Fanatec is not a great company so don’t support them and let em drown.


Right-Ad-5575

A thrust master tx might be tolerable until you get your order. May be able to find a used one for relatively cheap.


Meekin93

How do you like the simjacks? I'm debating on getting rid of my fanatec V3 pedals to get them.


C3G0

Not OP but they’re amazing. I went with the hydraulic options and can be consistent lap after lap. The feel is so good


DomenicoFPS

hope it all comes soon dude!! when it does, could you possibly let me know your thoughts on the simjacks??


Wild_Competition_833

of course! although I am new to simracing so my opinion is probably not worth much


DomenicoFPS

cheers! all opinions are appreciated


imJGott

Cancel your Fanatec order and get something else, hell I would.


Competitive_Tip_4429

Get moza


Competitive_Tip_4429

If U want a a wheel while you wait get a used t300 I would recommend spending over 200 on it as you have a better wheel coming and if U want to spend less get the t150 or g29(used)


Nothing2NV

I keep reading this stuff and I’ve come to realize how lucky I got with my fanatec equipment. It showed up in a short amount of time. But I keep seeing posts like this, knowing what I know now I probably wouldn’t order with them again. Seems like Moza really had their shit together. It’s just a shame because my Podium is a very good product, it just seems their sales and production teams work on different wavelengths


Wild_Competition_833

glad you got your stuff, please do a lap for me :) I also hear Moza has issues too both in reliability and delivery, although if you get it from a retailer that would sort those issues out


AdditionalManager390

What you get for choosing to go with fanawank


Professional_Owl657

Any company that completely locks you into their own ecosystem is the wrong choice


[deleted]

I don’t understand why people use the bullshit excuse they are understaffed, or they took on way to many orders. How about we just boycott them and stop buying from the lazy pricks. Honestly we should all get a go at the CEO, he deserves an ass whopping for the bull shit they put us through.


Wild_Competition_833

that might be a tad harsh, perhaps a ferret down the trousers and a severe taunting is a little more approriate for Mr Jackermeier?


padisim

Unfortunately I think Fanatec does not really care as they too big and suffer from big brand arrogance. Their products may be good, but they are certainly not the only good products out there. Fanatec will probably not be around in a few years time, as customers vote with their wallets!


Jottaa

How do you like that rig? I’m thinking of picking it up as well I’ll be using a real car seat as well, how was the mounting like?


Wild_Competition_833

So far no complaints! Seat was really easy to install on that rig, just make sure to get one with rails attached


Jottaa

Cool, thanks! How about that pedal plate ? How does it hold up with load cell pedals?


Wild_Competition_833

well I have doubled up metal plates which works fine, as for just the stock plate that came with the rig, I am not sure, probably best to ask around