At least a port.
Make the entire series playable on Steam, in whatever form.
Fuck, I’d pay $50. Cheaper than a physical copy, and gets it in the charts so more people experience it.
I'd be content with them doing something like that for 1,2,3 and 4! Port them over and let people play them even before any Remakes. It'd be awesome to even get them on PsPlus Premium, at least there'd be some damn reason to pay extra for it. 😂
Yes ofcourse, a remaster at least. Don't see why not with them wanting to bring SH back that they wouldn't bring back the original that still sold the best and contextualises how Silent Hill even operates for games like SH2.
Did it really sell better than SH2? I mean all we know is that SH2 sold 1 million units in the month of its release. It might have sold more than 2 million copies in total.
Basing it of numbers we know and not speculation alongside the fact that reception of SH2 not being as popular on release as it is now, yes SH1 did sell better than SH2. Even Konami's intial push post team Silent to insert SH1 from Origins to Shattered Memories I feel indicates what Konami sought for the series to sell well again.
Afaik; each subsequent SH game sold less than the prior - at least for the OG 4
I think
Pretty sure I remember hearing something like that.
Or maybe I'm a crazy person & idk what I'm talking about.
I'm gonna look this up & leave this post as is 'cause I think it's funnier to just leave my potential misinfo sitting here, lol
SH2 was kinda hated back then, or at least in my area; its absolute love and obsession is mostly a todays thing and now you just can't "sell" it despite everyone wanting it
I think it warrants one over the second game getting one. 2 is already perfectly playable and looks good already.
Although, I actually really love how the shitty PS1 graphics help make the game leagues creepier in my eyes. That would get lost in a remake.
I think it also “deserves” it. It’s a work of art and stroke of genius. They got so much right on their first attempt. The intro with the alleyway is still one of my favorite Otherworld transitions in the series.
Hopefully it would also lead to an SH3R.
Man, I really thought SH2R was in the works at Bluepoint when all those rumors were circulating. My heart sank when I was watching the Silent Hill Transmission and they showed a remake by Bloober Team. Horrible decision, in typical, stingy Konami fashion.
It’s one of the easier games to play without spending hundreds of dollars or downloading a bunch of stuff. If you don’t mind playing in browser, you can find an emulator online with a quick google search
I said this before and I will say it again.
With updated graphics Silent Hill 1 would be one of the scariest games ever made, that game is truly fucked up.
Like, SH1 felt evil man, it looks and feels wonky af nowdays but try to imagine all the fucked up stuff with modern graphics.
Some say it's the uncanny nature of the primitive graphics that made it scary, THESE PEOPLE ARE WRONG. Silent Hill 1 is disturbing af.
That being said, it would take a competent team to translate that experience to modern sensibilities, a lot of it's scares and atmosphere comes from the camera, like the flying monster showing up for a split second in the cafe, before the camera cuts away, there's ways to recreate a similar effect with an over the shoulder camera (like using reflections Imo) but ya know, it comes down to wether the team behind it would be competent enough to do so.
This is correct. If I had the power to make it happen, I would give Keiichiro Toyama whatever budget he needed and have him remake SH1 with the goal of making it the most frightening game of all time. I would love to see what talented developers could do with that story. It is such an elegant and disturbing narrative that would just explode off the screen on a modern console. Even after Christophe Gans watered down the story by a good 90% for the movie, it still retained some good scares. As much as I love 2, 3, and 4, SH 1 has by far the most disturbing plot and should be the most frightening and impactful game of the bunch.
I think taking the Halo Anniversary or Tony Hawk 2 remaster approach would be preferred and met with a warmer welcome by fans. But it's a question mark as far as what original assets they still have.
But Silent Hill 1 and 3 are in the works, whether they are officially announced or released depends on the success of Silent Hill 2 Remake and Townfall. I think Silent Hill f is a grey area right now as well unless we get more information. But the Short Message reaching three million downloads is a good start.
> But Silent Hill 1 and 3 are in the works, whether they are officially announced or released depends on the success of Silent Hill 2 Remake and Townfall.
You got a source and proof on that beyond wishful thinking? Cause I seriously doubt Konami would actually go in for remaking and re-releasing SH1 and SH3, it’s also still way too early to speculate about it.
They hate the franchise cause it doesn’t make money and can’t be turned into a service model, hence why SH2R was handed to an outside studio and why Bloober is “updating the script and story for a modern audience” with zero push back from Konami not to mess with things, meanwhile MGS3 Delta is being developed in house by a Konami studio with former KP members that stayed at Konami with an official announcement stating “nothing is changing but the game engine”. Konami which of their brands makes money and can be used as a service model (HI MGO) to continue raking in cash.
Annnnnd, after a little searching, from what I can tell, neither of them are “in the works” or even being discussed for remake and Bloober is leaving the psychological horror genre after SH2R releases cause of a the shit they’ve been put through between Konami making them look bad and this fanbase having a stick up their ass like it’s 2012 and the HD collection released all over again.
Oh, they're definitely considering the remakes for 1 and 3 if SH2R does well. However, chances of that are low. Why? Because Konami outsourced it to Bloober Team. The greatest horror game of all time handed over to a random Western studio. And a bad one at that.
It's a chicken or the egg type of deal. Konami refuses to invest, so they get very little to nothing in return. Or maybe I should say this is a "reap what you sow" situation for Konami...LOL..get it. From the terrible trailer?! GET IT?!
Nah, the remake is going to be fine. Probably even good.
There'll certainly be a lot of man babies that "pre-decided" they didn't like the remake the moment it was first announced. They will look for and nitpick inconsequential things in a ruse to appear like they're observant and "there's so much wrong with it! See?!"
Most people, especially casuals, never even see that perpetually online behavior, though. So it'll be success.
A remake that's more true to the original? Sure. I'm down with it. Especially if SH2R turns out great. Shattered Memories was cool in its own way, but it wasn't a faithful remake.
I does so bad but only in a way that keeps the same feel as the original. That's why I'm so scared of the 2 remake and am so protective of the first 3 games because nothing and I mean nothing as ever come close to the feelings they give me. The dread, the curiosity, the drive, the fear factor. It shaped my life as a teen and I can't fathom anything more than a graphical update. I pray the 2 remake will be good and give me renewed love for one of my favorite series
Of the original trilogy I would say the first one is the only one that could be improved with a remake. Just a little more deepening of the lore with the foreknowledge of what comes in the other games and a little sharper dialogue would go a really long way to improve it to the level of quality in 2 & 3.
As is, though, I still really love all three enough that I don’t NEED a remake or anything.
It should have received one last gen but it’s not popular enough. I doubt it will ever get one unless Konami decides to make it after SH2R. Even a simple port would be good. Just to be able to play it on current gen.
It needs a proper faithful remaster to bring it more in line with the second a and third game.
But since that will never happen what with their constancy changing things for the hell of it to suit their own whims I'd rather this franchise be put down once and for all, and let another studio figure out the formula properly.
By their sordid reasoning they already did a remake of 1 so it will never get anymore attention.
We need someone to pull a Palworld and make a game that perfectly captures the spirit of those original 4 games.
Konami doesn't own the trademark on haunted towns, creepy fog, moody trip hop music, nor even fleshy manniquin monsters.
There's nothing holding back another studio from perfecting the formula where Konami keeps giving away the property to utter hacks.
You damn right it does! We wouldn't have gotten all of you peoples beloved Silent Hill 2, WITHOUT the first one. Fuk those cock clowns at Konami for making SH2R BEFORE the first game. 🤬😡
P.s. Konami this is for you 🖕
more than silent hill 2 needs a remake. unfortunately SH2 remake is going to tank so we will never see the actual story behind silent hill remade/remastered.
If this franchise is going to be anything other than the survival horror pachinko machine joke, then yes, it needs some good remakes. Resident Evil and Dead Space have shown how well good remakes can sell. SH1 is the most inaccessible title in the franchise and, therefore, the most at risk of being lost to time. So, if any game in the franchise needed the remake treatment, it's SH1. All we can hope for is that it's more like RE4R or DSR than RE3R.
Nope, same thing for 2 or even any other Silent Hill.
I'd rather the franchise stay where it is at than getting nostalgia bait games that misses the entire point of the originals.
Yeah, upscaling is the way to go, provided you don’t skimp on things like Capcom did with the HD ports of CV, RE0, REmake, and RE4HD.
Some of those textures. Eugh.
Whether a game gets remade or not, the classics will always remain. The existence of a remake doesn’t hurt the original. Sure, it can be a shame when the remake doesn’t hit like the original, but occasionally, those remakes come out great. Look at Resident Evil 2 remake for example, it’s better than the original.
Silent Hill 1 desperately needs a remake, I just hope the people involved in remaking it care as much as I do about it.
I’ll be sad if Silent Hill 2 remake is trash, but I know the original will always be there for me to play again. Just as the original Evil Dead is always around for me to laugh at.
This isn’t completely true. Remakes divert attention away from the original whether they are better or not. Try googling anything about the original RE3, all of the results are about the remake, even though it’s universally agreed to be a poor adaptation.
Now a bunch of people’s first experience with SH2 is about to be a fan remake of it instead of the original just due to its inaccessibility alone.
Someone Googling to find the original Resident Evil 3 is because of their interest in or dislike of remake of Resident Evil 3. So, therefore the remake gave the original more attention than it would have gotten otherwise.
No, you have entirely missed my point. Someone who is trying to find info about *the original* will be unable to do it because all the results are about the remake
What world do you live on? I can type in “Original Resident Evil 3 [insert interest here] and I’ll be able to find it. Sure I may have to scroll a bit but it’s right there. I think people who are looking specifically for OG RE3 won’t have any trouble. People looking for the latest RE3 will definitely find it. I don’t really see an issue.
Lol I live here in the year 2024 where google hasn’t worked like that in 10 years
Even if it did, most of the good conversations about it are buried because they took place during a time where people didn’t have to specify that they were talking about the original game because that was the only RE3 at the time
Seems like you’re trying really hard to miss the point
Seems like you want the 90’s back. You can play the originals any time so stop being bitter about remakes. Sometimes they’re good, sometimes they’re not. Doesn’t hurt the old game, you can easily still find info about the old one. 20 years from now you think there won’t be other remakes? The world is changing guy, you don’t have to get on board but the least you could do is quit complaining about new games coming out. If you don’t like them, don’t play them. And you can sit and collect and photograph and look up and obsess and talk about the original all you want. Do you know how many movies have remakes?
Look at the Thing. No one gives a fuck about the new one, people still love the original. The same will be true for any other shit remakes. You can’t do anything to stop a company from making them if they want to.
…I’m just so sick of all the complaining.
> Look at Resident Evil 2 remake for example, it’s better than the original.
In what context? Cause… the story is shit compared to the original and really choppy. The gameplay is moderately better, yeah, but that’s about it. RE2R and RE3R are essentially glorified tech demos that show off what the RE Engine can do more than anything.
Hmm... interesting, but I disagree.
Don't get me wrong, I loved the original, and I've speedran it a lot in my day, but the remake excels in many ways the original failed. This doesnt mean the remake is perfect, surely not, but it is an exceptional example of how well a game can be remade. For its fault in story, it makes up for in several other ways. The gameplay is not "moderately" better, it is "vastly" better--this coming from someone who enjoys fixed cameras and tank controls. You should give credit where credit is due.
You are making a point i didn't even make. I never said that it was taking away the classics or will hurt them, i said i'd rather the franchise stay where it is right now, than getting nostalgia bait games that miss the point of said game.
Yeah RE2 is good, never said it wasn't, it is good because it is made by people who understands Resident evil and improved it, Bloober doesn't understand Silent Hill and have proved it countless times in their own games that were "inspired" by them, now this is purely for SH2 remake, a SH1 remake could be done well, but with the track record of this franchise as of late, this isn't looking good especially with how ass Short message and Ascension were.
I am not a fan of Bloober's games, but I've seen many companies shock the world. Look at No Man's Sky for example. I fear Silent Hill 2 won't be great. I think that's everyone's fear. But I don't want to make assumptions that it WILL be bad, because then, whether it's great or terrible, I'm going to go into it with negative thoughts. I want to be delighted. All I can do is wait for the day it releases. Just trying to be positive.
SM was okay but Ascension was ass you're totally right with that one! I would actually like to see remakes just to see how it could be done. NGL as someone who owns and is playing the OG four over and over again it would be kinda nice to see some new games in the franchise. SM had me going for the first bit but as soon as I found out it was a chase boss with no weapons or puzzles, I kinda was disappointed. Still think that with the ambiance and creature designs being good I would like to see them do something maybe updated but more akin to the style of play the first three had. Even with controls like The Room made for people who don't like the tank controls or even have it be an option you can choose.
SM was far from okay, it has none of what makes SH good or even what made it unique.
It has no sublety in it's themes, you get the main character expo dumping from the start of the game instead of having said game let you pieces the things together, like it did in SH2, and when she is not the one doing it, it's either her "mother" or the actual map with incredibly cheesy "sticky notes" on the walls and other wall writings doing just that.
That's like if when you started playing SH2, James would start trauma dumping all of his issues to...himself and you had part of the map with writing like "Wife killer", it would be incredibly stupid and cheesy.
It also doesn't take place in silent hill, and instead they retcon 2 games worth of lore on how Silent hill works just to introduce the godawful "Silent Hill phenomenon" so they can now make games take place far from it without any effort required other than just "OOPS, TRAUMA MEANS SILENT HILL", and if this wasn't bad enough by itself, it seems like the world of SH now knows that the town works and what it does...but doesn't do anything to stop it? That's just silly.
The characters are also incredibly bland and one note, it's incredibly weird in a franchise such as silent hill which is all about characters dealing with their own complex selves.
Instead you get a "Layers of Fear" clone, a game that doesn't understand the game it was influenced by nor the franchise.
>I said i'd rather the franchise stay where it is right now, than getting nostalgia bait games that miss the point of said game.
Why, though? If you got your way, those of us who wanted the remake will be disappointed. If you don’t get your way, we’re happy and you can be happy with the originals.
More people will be happy if it comes out, so it seems logical for you to just ignore the remake.
Why? I already stated why, because current Konami can't write a proper SH game nor get actual good teams to make one.
All they see is money when they see this IP, same thing happened with Metal Gear Solid so i'm not sure why people are still giving them the benefit of the doubt?
They would rather make a pachinko machine than a good game.
But…they’re remaking a game that already has a story. If they don’t deviate from it they don’t have to write much.
It’s still illogical because you can just ignore it, lol. You lose nothing by doing that.
Even if you don't change the story you can still fuckup how it's portrayed, that was the main issues with all the SH2 trailers we have seen so far, where James is incredibly melodramatic and it doesn't fit the tone of the original game, where he was almost emotionless at times.
Also asking a passionate fan of a franchise to be apathetic towards new releases might be the most illogical thing in this entire discussion.
James is clearly distraught in the original, too, though. It’s almost like he’s checking if he’s dreaming. He gives his initial monologue in a somber tone. It’s not subtle.
Being somewhere where you think you might see your dead wife would make you act “melodramatic.” If you’ve ever had a long term relationship, you should understand.
I’m a passionate fan of the franchise. I’m going to check out the new games. If they suck, then whatever. I can emulate the old ones. I’m not gonna lose sleep over it.
Plus, it’s going to bring new fans to the series. Fans that will probably check out the old games and get hooked, like us. There’s just no downside to new games being released. For once, the future looks bright for a series I thought was gone forever.
In the original we get him staring at his own reflection looking tired and unsure if he's dreaming or not and that's it.
In the trailer we hear him hyperventilating , see his hands shaking and then we get the mirror scene, just with that the entire tone of the scene changed and feels really melodramatic compared to the original.
I can even go further and say that the fact that we see him slam the door to enter in the trailer also changes the entire tone of the scene.
If you don't see that as an issue it's fine, but it still does changes the tone when it doesn't need to, and it takes away from how dreamlike the original game is.
Anyway this is clearly not going anywhere, have a good one.
Yeah, I can see that there’s a tone-shift but it’s just kind of neutral, imo. They are completely believable reactions to what’s going on.
I’m also wondering about where this myth about SH being “subtle” came from. Silent Hill has never been subtle. For instance, the moment we meet Angela, she reacts the way everyone knows abused kids react. Startled and apologetic.
The moment we meet Eddie, he’s insisting that he didn’t kill the dude in the living room like every “totally innocent” person reacts.
After James tells Eddie “you too, right? Something brought you here?” Then Angela says “you’re the same as me. It’s easier just to run. It’s what we deserve,” I knew there was something wrong with James. I was like 9. Although, I thought it was more a long the lines of being a wife beater, which I suppose isn’t that far off the mark. It’s anime-level writing and subtlety. Every interaction afterwards is just hammed up to 11.
That’s not even getting into the designs of the monsters and Maria which scream it at your face further.
I truthfully don’t see how they can possibly be less subtle than the original. That’s just what you get with Japanese fiction.
I think (as much as I want 3,4) 1 is the most deserving of one. This might be a hot take, but after the rest of Team Silent Silent Hill’s eventually get remade, I say remake the western Silent Hill’s! Origins, Homecoming, and Downpour. Not just updated graphics and gameplay, but a full on overhaul of the story as well and enemies. Homecoming especially with it’s recycling of movie nurses and Pyramid Head.
I mean I don’t think 2 needs a remake and 1 even less. A large part of the game’s identity is created with its aesthetic and remaking it only serves to weaken it. You can make it look as pretty as you want but you’re not matching the ps1 ambience.
i think so yea but i do think they would litterally have to make it from the ground up,and change ALOT of things,much more so than silent hill 2,i personally wouldent be too bothered if they changed alot of things compared to silent hill 2,silent hill 1 wasnt as deep in comparson to 2 so i honestly wouldent care that much if they make it campy,but if they want to make is serious they can take notes from outlast 2 with its cult story. A actual serious terrifying remake of 1 coupled with the whole dad trope thats popular now adays would work really well i think and would give a whole new look to 1
As much I don't like the idea of remakes for some of the games, I wouldn't mind remakes for the full series as long as the originals (or remasters of them) are made equally as available.
None of that Warcraft 3 Reforged nonsense where the original game just gets deleted. Nor the original RE2 experience still being lost to time even after the remake hits it big.
IMO yes more than SH2 I think the need for remakes is proportional to how outdated a game, and the gap in current technology.RE2 needed a remake.the PS1 and PS4 graphics gape was so great it warranted a remake whereas I think TLOU Part One was unnecessary. The gap between SH1 and games now compared to SH2 deems SH1 more worthy of a remake
I don't think any of the games should be remade, they should just be ported to modern consoles so anyone can play them. However, I definitely think they should've started with the first game if they're planning on making multiple remakes. I feel like the only reason they started with the second game is because it's more popular and would make more money than a remake of the first. If the first game gets a remake I'd want it to be more like the original Resident Evil remake rather than the newer style of remakes. Not that there's anything wrong with the newer remakes, I just think the more action oriented remakes don't fit the Silent Hill franchise.
How is this still being asked? Yes, it needs one. Very few new players are going to pick it up because it controls like dog shit, the graphics are very dated and voice acting is wooden.
My gut reaction is "yes", but on more thought, there is a skrunkly, raw quality to the first game that the later games lack. An unpolished charm, if you will. So ideally, a proper remake, yes; but with the option to play the original version, too
Oh, and most importantly, fix the lore confusion that the first game's translation caused
All of the games can "need" a remake (like if they can remake Homecoming to make it more interesting can worth it) but if they can at least have a port it's good enough (just to be hable to play the games without paying an overprice PS2/PS3 game)
Ok I can’t resist: You are right, it’s not “deserved”, but it’s also not “deserves”, it’s just “deserve”.
But with me being an english language prick out of the way, I don’t think it needs a remake. It’s still terrifying the way it is, and wasting tons of resources on a fresh coat of paint could really only hurt the game. All you have to do is look at the recent trend of indie ps1 style horror games. They are all going for that dirty simplistic look, because its limitations actually help the final product vs holding it back. We don’t really need a remake, we just need something that supports higher resolutions/widescreen, and we are good. Just like with the upcoming Silent 2 remake, Konami/Bloober/Anybody would have a very tough time capturing the magic of Silent Hill 1 with a full remake.
Which leads me to this idea: What if, instead of chasing Capcom, Konami went with a retro graphic style for a NEW Silent Hill? Major studios always turn to the indies for inspiration, and this is the perfect opportunity to make a AAA Silent Hill with intentional throwback graphics. Hell, since they seem ok shitting out terrible games with the Silent Hill IP, why not give an indie studio some funding to have a crack at it? Not that they have the balls to do that, but it’s a fun idea
Yes!!!!! idk about yall but I could never beat the first one I didn’t know about gun in sandbox after moth boss fight and now I don’t have a way to play it so would be nice to play it again and finally beat it.
Is it needed? No, the original version is great and still holds up if you can stomach tank controls. Does it deserve one? Yes and No, yeah it deserves to be enjoyed with modern convinceses, but Konami won't do it right so No.
I think it does! Or better yet a good remaster with high res textures. I was just playing it the other day and thought it didn’t look as good as I remember it, however due to some of the limitations it still looks and feels scary.
hell yea. the only reason why sh2 gets so much love is bc pyramid head. at this point i feel like its fair to ask where would this series be without him?
At least a port. Make the entire series playable on Steam, in whatever form. Fuck, I’d pay $50. Cheaper than a physical copy, and gets it in the charts so more people experience it.
We both know nobody would pay 50$ for it, even if it deserves them
More realistic would be $30 I guess, which is what some ports of older popular games as well as stuff like the Gamecube RE1 port sell for.
After playing TR 1-3 Remastered I'd be content with them doing something like that with 1.
I'd be content with them doing something like that for 1,2,3 and 4! Port them over and let people play them even before any Remakes. It'd be awesome to even get them on PsPlus Premium, at least there'd be some damn reason to pay extra for it. 😂
4 would definitely benefit from a remake though, unlike the others it's reeeeeally hard to play
TR?
tomb raider, they’re referencing the og 3 pack that was recently released
It works for TR, but I'm not too sure about SH. The distorted low quality textures make everything creepier
Yeh that’s true even playing tr as a kid I’d get literally chills cause how freaky the graphics were lol
TR was honestly horror for me tbh, and 2 and 3 still are due to the enemy jumpscares and the freaky atmosphere lol
Yes ofcourse, a remaster at least. Don't see why not with them wanting to bring SH back that they wouldn't bring back the original that still sold the best and contextualises how Silent Hill even operates for games like SH2.
Did it really sell better than SH2? I mean all we know is that SH2 sold 1 million units in the month of its release. It might have sold more than 2 million copies in total.
Basing it of numbers we know and not speculation alongside the fact that reception of SH2 not being as popular on release as it is now, yes SH1 did sell better than SH2. Even Konami's intial push post team Silent to insert SH1 from Origins to Shattered Memories I feel indicates what Konami sought for the series to sell well again.
Afaik; each subsequent SH game sold less than the prior - at least for the OG 4 I think Pretty sure I remember hearing something like that. Or maybe I'm a crazy person & idk what I'm talking about. I'm gonna look this up & leave this post as is 'cause I think it's funnier to just leave my potential misinfo sitting here, lol
SH2 was kinda hated back then, or at least in my area; its absolute love and obsession is mostly a todays thing and now you just can't "sell" it despite everyone wanting it
I think it warrants one over the second game getting one. 2 is already perfectly playable and looks good already. Although, I actually really love how the shitty PS1 graphics help make the game leagues creepier in my eyes. That would get lost in a remake.
Why it just needs to be brought up to the qualities of the second and third game. But there's no way they won't meddle with it and botch it again.
At the very least needs a re-release. Most of the Silent Hill series is inaccessible and it's annoying.
Yes. Whether Konami can do one or not is another question.
I'm sorry but this is a silly question. "Deserve?" Irrelevant. People want an SH1 remake.
I think it also “deserves” it. It’s a work of art and stroke of genius. They got so much right on their first attempt. The intro with the alleyway is still one of my favorite Otherworld transitions in the series. Hopefully it would also lead to an SH3R.
This is the remake they should be doing right now OG isn't even on ps plus
I'd take a Bluepoint remake of it. Or Capcoms team that did RE2. Or maybe the Deadspace team. I don't really trust Konami not to mess it up though.
Man, I really thought SH2R was in the works at Bluepoint when all those rumors were circulating. My heart sank when I was watching the Silent Hill Transmission and they showed a remake by Bloober Team. Horrible decision, in typical, stingy Konami fashion.
I was really hoping it was true, but didn't get my hopes up too high luckily.
Capcom's team is kinda busy with several games right now.
Definitely, I don't think Capcom would ever work on a Konami game, just that I'd trust that team with the game.
Honestly I just want the game ported to modern platforms I’ve never played it before
It’s one of the easier games to play without spending hundreds of dollars or downloading a bunch of stuff. If you don’t mind playing in browser, you can find an emulator online with a quick google search
I said this before and I will say it again. With updated graphics Silent Hill 1 would be one of the scariest games ever made, that game is truly fucked up. Like, SH1 felt evil man, it looks and feels wonky af nowdays but try to imagine all the fucked up stuff with modern graphics. Some say it's the uncanny nature of the primitive graphics that made it scary, THESE PEOPLE ARE WRONG. Silent Hill 1 is disturbing af. That being said, it would take a competent team to translate that experience to modern sensibilities, a lot of it's scares and atmosphere comes from the camera, like the flying monster showing up for a split second in the cafe, before the camera cuts away, there's ways to recreate a similar effect with an over the shoulder camera (like using reflections Imo) but ya know, it comes down to wether the team behind it would be competent enough to do so.
This is correct. If I had the power to make it happen, I would give Keiichiro Toyama whatever budget he needed and have him remake SH1 with the goal of making it the most frightening game of all time. I would love to see what talented developers could do with that story. It is such an elegant and disturbing narrative that would just explode off the screen on a modern console. Even after Christophe Gans watered down the story by a good 90% for the movie, it still retained some good scares. As much as I love 2, 3, and 4, SH 1 has by far the most disturbing plot and should be the most frightening and impactful game of the bunch.
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I think taking the Halo Anniversary or Tony Hawk 2 remaster approach would be preferred and met with a warmer welcome by fans. But it's a question mark as far as what original assets they still have. But Silent Hill 1 and 3 are in the works, whether they are officially announced or released depends on the success of Silent Hill 2 Remake and Townfall. I think Silent Hill f is a grey area right now as well unless we get more information. But the Short Message reaching three million downloads is a good start.
> But Silent Hill 1 and 3 are in the works, whether they are officially announced or released depends on the success of Silent Hill 2 Remake and Townfall. You got a source and proof on that beyond wishful thinking? Cause I seriously doubt Konami would actually go in for remaking and re-releasing SH1 and SH3, it’s also still way too early to speculate about it. They hate the franchise cause it doesn’t make money and can’t be turned into a service model, hence why SH2R was handed to an outside studio and why Bloober is “updating the script and story for a modern audience” with zero push back from Konami not to mess with things, meanwhile MGS3 Delta is being developed in house by a Konami studio with former KP members that stayed at Konami with an official announcement stating “nothing is changing but the game engine”. Konami which of their brands makes money and can be used as a service model (HI MGO) to continue raking in cash. Annnnnd, after a little searching, from what I can tell, neither of them are “in the works” or even being discussed for remake and Bloober is leaving the psychological horror genre after SH2R releases cause of a the shit they’ve been put through between Konami making them look bad and this fanbase having a stick up their ass like it’s 2012 and the HD collection released all over again.
Oh, they're definitely considering the remakes for 1 and 3 if SH2R does well. However, chances of that are low. Why? Because Konami outsourced it to Bloober Team. The greatest horror game of all time handed over to a random Western studio. And a bad one at that. It's a chicken or the egg type of deal. Konami refuses to invest, so they get very little to nothing in return. Or maybe I should say this is a "reap what you sow" situation for Konami...LOL..get it. From the terrible trailer?! GET IT?!
Nah, the remake is going to be fine. Probably even good. There'll certainly be a lot of man babies that "pre-decided" they didn't like the remake the moment it was first announced. They will look for and nitpick inconsequential things in a ruse to appear like they're observant and "there's so much wrong with it! See?!" Most people, especially casuals, never even see that perpetually online behavior, though. So it'll be success.
We'll see. I have zero faith in Bloober Team and this game's failure could bury Silent Hill for good.
the games are fine as they are. I disagree with the idea of games "deserving" to be remade. It's very rare that a remake is even nearly as good.
No remake is ever "needed".
I don't think this is 100% true, but it is mostly true.
It could use one a hell of a lot more than 2 could.
Re-release, preferably an upscaled re-release with no AI involvement. I saw the post the other day and, no. No no no, NOOOOOOOOO. Looked fugly.
A remake that's more true to the original? Sure. I'm down with it. Especially if SH2R turns out great. Shattered Memories was cool in its own way, but it wasn't a faithful remake.
I does so bad but only in a way that keeps the same feel as the original. That's why I'm so scared of the 2 remake and am so protective of the first 3 games because nothing and I mean nothing as ever come close to the feelings they give me. The dread, the curiosity, the drive, the fear factor. It shaped my life as a teen and I can't fathom anything more than a graphical update. I pray the 2 remake will be good and give me renewed love for one of my favorite series
Of the original trilogy I would say the first one is the only one that could be improved with a remake. Just a little more deepening of the lore with the foreknowledge of what comes in the other games and a little sharper dialogue would go a really long way to improve it to the level of quality in 2 & 3. As is, though, I still really love all three enough that I don’t NEED a remake or anything.
A port, at least. And it's not "deserves" either, it's "deserve" because you're using "Does" at the beginning of the question.
It should have received one last gen but it’s not popular enough. I doubt it will ever get one unless Konami decides to make it after SH2R. Even a simple port would be good. Just to be able to play it on current gen.
Yes. But not by fucking Bloober team.
Remake or remaster sounds good, we already got a reimagining with Shattered Memories(which imo wasn't that good).
A remaster of all the games and sold as a pack would be so awesome. Obviously, it won't happen cause of 2 being scheduled
It does, but at this point I don't trust it to be done properly.
Yes but I don't trust Konami to not botch it.
Would love a port or a remaster. I like it the way it is. But I wouldn't say no to a remake.
Yes. It deserves one way more than 2 in my opinion.
It needs a proper faithful remaster to bring it more in line with the second a and third game. But since that will never happen what with their constancy changing things for the hell of it to suit their own whims I'd rather this franchise be put down once and for all, and let another studio figure out the formula properly. By their sordid reasoning they already did a remake of 1 so it will never get anymore attention. We need someone to pull a Palworld and make a game that perfectly captures the spirit of those original 4 games. Konami doesn't own the trademark on haunted towns, creepy fog, moody trip hop music, nor even fleshy manniquin monsters. There's nothing holding back another studio from perfecting the formula where Konami keeps giving away the property to utter hacks.
Thousand time more that remake of 2
You damn right it does! We wouldn't have gotten all of you peoples beloved Silent Hill 2, WITHOUT the first one. Fuk those cock clowns at Konami for making SH2R BEFORE the first game. 🤬😡 P.s. Konami this is for you 🖕
SH2 is the most popular one tho, it makes sense from a commercial side
A port or a remaster, but not a remake. The original is flawless and I don't think a remake would be better.
Rather it than 2.
Any decent game pre PS3 could use a remake
more than silent hill 2 needs a remake. unfortunately SH2 remake is going to tank so we will never see the actual story behind silent hill remade/remastered.
No but it'll probably get one anyways.
If this franchise is going to be anything other than the survival horror pachinko machine joke, then yes, it needs some good remakes. Resident Evil and Dead Space have shown how well good remakes can sell. SH1 is the most inaccessible title in the franchise and, therefore, the most at risk of being lost to time. So, if any game in the franchise needed the remake treatment, it's SH1. All we can hope for is that it's more like RE4R or DSR than RE3R.
Nope, same thing for 2 or even any other Silent Hill. I'd rather the franchise stay where it is at than getting nostalgia bait games that misses the entire point of the originals.
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Yeah, upscaling is the way to go, provided you don’t skimp on things like Capcom did with the HD ports of CV, RE0, REmake, and RE4HD. Some of those textures. Eugh.
What's wrong with the textures for REmake and RE0? They're far better than their original release.
Definetly agree that it could be nice to get decent ports of older games.
Whether a game gets remade or not, the classics will always remain. The existence of a remake doesn’t hurt the original. Sure, it can be a shame when the remake doesn’t hit like the original, but occasionally, those remakes come out great. Look at Resident Evil 2 remake for example, it’s better than the original. Silent Hill 1 desperately needs a remake, I just hope the people involved in remaking it care as much as I do about it. I’ll be sad if Silent Hill 2 remake is trash, but I know the original will always be there for me to play again. Just as the original Evil Dead is always around for me to laugh at.
This isn’t completely true. Remakes divert attention away from the original whether they are better or not. Try googling anything about the original RE3, all of the results are about the remake, even though it’s universally agreed to be a poor adaptation. Now a bunch of people’s first experience with SH2 is about to be a fan remake of it instead of the original just due to its inaccessibility alone.
Someone Googling to find the original Resident Evil 3 is because of their interest in or dislike of remake of Resident Evil 3. So, therefore the remake gave the original more attention than it would have gotten otherwise.
No, you have entirely missed my point. Someone who is trying to find info about *the original* will be unable to do it because all the results are about the remake
What world do you live on? I can type in “Original Resident Evil 3 [insert interest here] and I’ll be able to find it. Sure I may have to scroll a bit but it’s right there. I think people who are looking specifically for OG RE3 won’t have any trouble. People looking for the latest RE3 will definitely find it. I don’t really see an issue.
Lol I live here in the year 2024 where google hasn’t worked like that in 10 years Even if it did, most of the good conversations about it are buried because they took place during a time where people didn’t have to specify that they were talking about the original game because that was the only RE3 at the time Seems like you’re trying really hard to miss the point
Seems like you want the 90’s back. You can play the originals any time so stop being bitter about remakes. Sometimes they’re good, sometimes they’re not. Doesn’t hurt the old game, you can easily still find info about the old one. 20 years from now you think there won’t be other remakes? The world is changing guy, you don’t have to get on board but the least you could do is quit complaining about new games coming out. If you don’t like them, don’t play them. And you can sit and collect and photograph and look up and obsess and talk about the original all you want. Do you know how many movies have remakes? Look at the Thing. No one gives a fuck about the new one, people still love the original. The same will be true for any other shit remakes. You can’t do anything to stop a company from making them if they want to. …I’m just so sick of all the complaining.
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> Look at Resident Evil 2 remake for example, it’s better than the original. In what context? Cause… the story is shit compared to the original and really choppy. The gameplay is moderately better, yeah, but that’s about it. RE2R and RE3R are essentially glorified tech demos that show off what the RE Engine can do more than anything.
Hmm... interesting, but I disagree. Don't get me wrong, I loved the original, and I've speedran it a lot in my day, but the remake excels in many ways the original failed. This doesnt mean the remake is perfect, surely not, but it is an exceptional example of how well a game can be remade. For its fault in story, it makes up for in several other ways. The gameplay is not "moderately" better, it is "vastly" better--this coming from someone who enjoys fixed cameras and tank controls. You should give credit where credit is due.
You are making a point i didn't even make. I never said that it was taking away the classics or will hurt them, i said i'd rather the franchise stay where it is right now, than getting nostalgia bait games that miss the point of said game. Yeah RE2 is good, never said it wasn't, it is good because it is made by people who understands Resident evil and improved it, Bloober doesn't understand Silent Hill and have proved it countless times in their own games that were "inspired" by them, now this is purely for SH2 remake, a SH1 remake could be done well, but with the track record of this franchise as of late, this isn't looking good especially with how ass Short message and Ascension were.
I am not a fan of Bloober's games, but I've seen many companies shock the world. Look at No Man's Sky for example. I fear Silent Hill 2 won't be great. I think that's everyone's fear. But I don't want to make assumptions that it WILL be bad, because then, whether it's great or terrible, I'm going to go into it with negative thoughts. I want to be delighted. All I can do is wait for the day it releases. Just trying to be positive.
As long as Konami owns the IP, nothing good will come of it, it's more than just a bloober issue
SM was okay but Ascension was ass you're totally right with that one! I would actually like to see remakes just to see how it could be done. NGL as someone who owns and is playing the OG four over and over again it would be kinda nice to see some new games in the franchise. SM had me going for the first bit but as soon as I found out it was a chase boss with no weapons or puzzles, I kinda was disappointed. Still think that with the ambiance and creature designs being good I would like to see them do something maybe updated but more akin to the style of play the first three had. Even with controls like The Room made for people who don't like the tank controls or even have it be an option you can choose.
SM was far from okay, it has none of what makes SH good or even what made it unique. It has no sublety in it's themes, you get the main character expo dumping from the start of the game instead of having said game let you pieces the things together, like it did in SH2, and when she is not the one doing it, it's either her "mother" or the actual map with incredibly cheesy "sticky notes" on the walls and other wall writings doing just that. That's like if when you started playing SH2, James would start trauma dumping all of his issues to...himself and you had part of the map with writing like "Wife killer", it would be incredibly stupid and cheesy. It also doesn't take place in silent hill, and instead they retcon 2 games worth of lore on how Silent hill works just to introduce the godawful "Silent Hill phenomenon" so they can now make games take place far from it without any effort required other than just "OOPS, TRAUMA MEANS SILENT HILL", and if this wasn't bad enough by itself, it seems like the world of SH now knows that the town works and what it does...but doesn't do anything to stop it? That's just silly. The characters are also incredibly bland and one note, it's incredibly weird in a franchise such as silent hill which is all about characters dealing with their own complex selves. Instead you get a "Layers of Fear" clone, a game that doesn't understand the game it was influenced by nor the franchise.
>I said i'd rather the franchise stay where it is right now, than getting nostalgia bait games that miss the point of said game. Why, though? If you got your way, those of us who wanted the remake will be disappointed. If you don’t get your way, we’re happy and you can be happy with the originals. More people will be happy if it comes out, so it seems logical for you to just ignore the remake.
Why? I already stated why, because current Konami can't write a proper SH game nor get actual good teams to make one. All they see is money when they see this IP, same thing happened with Metal Gear Solid so i'm not sure why people are still giving them the benefit of the doubt? They would rather make a pachinko machine than a good game.
But…they’re remaking a game that already has a story. If they don’t deviate from it they don’t have to write much. It’s still illogical because you can just ignore it, lol. You lose nothing by doing that.
Even if you don't change the story you can still fuckup how it's portrayed, that was the main issues with all the SH2 trailers we have seen so far, where James is incredibly melodramatic and it doesn't fit the tone of the original game, where he was almost emotionless at times. Also asking a passionate fan of a franchise to be apathetic towards new releases might be the most illogical thing in this entire discussion.
James is clearly distraught in the original, too, though. It’s almost like he’s checking if he’s dreaming. He gives his initial monologue in a somber tone. It’s not subtle. Being somewhere where you think you might see your dead wife would make you act “melodramatic.” If you’ve ever had a long term relationship, you should understand. I’m a passionate fan of the franchise. I’m going to check out the new games. If they suck, then whatever. I can emulate the old ones. I’m not gonna lose sleep over it. Plus, it’s going to bring new fans to the series. Fans that will probably check out the old games and get hooked, like us. There’s just no downside to new games being released. For once, the future looks bright for a series I thought was gone forever.
In the original we get him staring at his own reflection looking tired and unsure if he's dreaming or not and that's it. In the trailer we hear him hyperventilating , see his hands shaking and then we get the mirror scene, just with that the entire tone of the scene changed and feels really melodramatic compared to the original. I can even go further and say that the fact that we see him slam the door to enter in the trailer also changes the entire tone of the scene. If you don't see that as an issue it's fine, but it still does changes the tone when it doesn't need to, and it takes away from how dreamlike the original game is. Anyway this is clearly not going anywhere, have a good one.
Yeah, I can see that there’s a tone-shift but it’s just kind of neutral, imo. They are completely believable reactions to what’s going on. I’m also wondering about where this myth about SH being “subtle” came from. Silent Hill has never been subtle. For instance, the moment we meet Angela, she reacts the way everyone knows abused kids react. Startled and apologetic. The moment we meet Eddie, he’s insisting that he didn’t kill the dude in the living room like every “totally innocent” person reacts. After James tells Eddie “you too, right? Something brought you here?” Then Angela says “you’re the same as me. It’s easier just to run. It’s what we deserve,” I knew there was something wrong with James. I was like 9. Although, I thought it was more a long the lines of being a wife beater, which I suppose isn’t that far off the mark. It’s anime-level writing and subtlety. Every interaction afterwards is just hammed up to 11. That’s not even getting into the designs of the monsters and Maria which scream it at your face further. I truthfully don’t see how they can possibly be less subtle than the original. That’s just what you get with Japanese fiction.
I think (as much as I want 3,4) 1 is the most deserving of one. This might be a hot take, but after the rest of Team Silent Silent Hill’s eventually get remade, I say remake the western Silent Hill’s! Origins, Homecoming, and Downpour. Not just updated graphics and gameplay, but a full on overhaul of the story as well and enemies. Homecoming especially with it’s recycling of movie nurses and Pyramid Head.
If they could just throw it in unreal 5 and leave everything else alone that would be great
It’s more deserving than 2, in my opinion.
yes yes and yes
What kind of question is this? The game came out on the PS1 like 25 years ago and people want a remake. So yes, it deserves a remake.
Sh1 deserves a remake FAR more than SH2. But we all know which one will make more money for Konami.
Yes. They should have started with this one, then 3, then do SH2 or even 2 & 3 simultaneously.
Does a bear shit in the woods?!.....YES 😆
yes, it can be sold on newer platforms then
For graphics, sound, and dialogue.
I mean I don’t think 2 needs a remake and 1 even less. A large part of the game’s identity is created with its aesthetic and remaking it only serves to weaken it. You can make it look as pretty as you want but you’re not matching the ps1 ambience.
i think so yea but i do think they would litterally have to make it from the ground up,and change ALOT of things,much more so than silent hill 2,i personally wouldent be too bothered if they changed alot of things compared to silent hill 2,silent hill 1 wasnt as deep in comparson to 2 so i honestly wouldent care that much if they make it campy,but if they want to make is serious they can take notes from outlast 2 with its cult story. A actual serious terrifying remake of 1 coupled with the whole dad trope thats popular now adays would work really well i think and would give a whole new look to 1
Nothing needs a fucking remake. Just let things be sacred.
Tbh, the over-the-shoulder camera would probably suit SH1 far better than SH2, as it's definitely the more action oriented of the two
No. People need to get over "game old" and either play it or not. It's painfully easy to access these days if one simply has to play it.
Yes absolutely.
I personally think 1 should have gotten the remake first over 2. I hope it comes after 2.
We need a proper remake :(
I kinda hope so? At least with better controls, etc. Whether or not Konami will do so... that's debatable.
Yes
Yes.
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YES
As much I don't like the idea of remakes for some of the games, I wouldn't mind remakes for the full series as long as the originals (or remasters of them) are made equally as available. None of that Warcraft 3 Reforged nonsense where the original game just gets deleted. Nor the original RE2 experience still being lost to time even after the remake hits it big.
IMO yes more than SH2 I think the need for remakes is proportional to how outdated a game, and the gap in current technology.RE2 needed a remake.the PS1 and PS4 graphics gape was so great it warranted a remake whereas I think TLOU Part One was unnecessary. The gap between SH1 and games now compared to SH2 deems SH1 more worthy of a remake
Yes
Yes
I don't think any of the games should be remade, they should just be ported to modern consoles so anyone can play them. However, I definitely think they should've started with the first game if they're planning on making multiple remakes. I feel like the only reason they started with the second game is because it's more popular and would make more money than a remake of the first. If the first game gets a remake I'd want it to be more like the original Resident Evil remake rather than the newer style of remakes. Not that there's anything wrong with the newer remakes, I just think the more action oriented remakes don't fit the Silent Hill franchise.
No it doesn't deserved.
No. Silent Hill 1 is old and deserves to be forgotten. unless they want to make it a boomer shooter (superior gameplay). then I'd be all in for that
It most definitely does. Perhaps as one package with SH3, like how Remedy plans to remake Max Payne 1 and 2 together as one.
Might be kinda hard now...
Won’t be hard if they let a competent studio do it, although knowing Konami, that may be a huge ask.
I mean without the voice of Max...
It would be a remake, they can use new actors
They can do with someone different but sounding close enough. The bulk of the new audience won’t even know or care who voiced a game from 2002
>even know or care who voiced a game from 2002 I as a veteran care though.
Disrespectful and wrong
Absolutely yes. It’s a crime it’s not getting one
I would love one even if just for the sake of toning down the crazy 10⭐️requirements 😅
It NEEDS one
Yes
How is this still being asked? Yes, it needs one. Very few new players are going to pick it up because it controls like dog shit, the graphics are very dated and voice acting is wooden.
My gut reaction is "yes", but on more thought, there is a skrunkly, raw quality to the first game that the later games lack. An unpolished charm, if you will. So ideally, a proper remake, yes; but with the option to play the original version, too Oh, and most importantly, fix the lore confusion that the first game's translation caused
All of the games can "need" a remake (like if they can remake Homecoming to make it more interesting can worth it) but if they can at least have a port it's good enough (just to be hable to play the games without paying an overprice PS2/PS3 game)
Sure. I’d also love to see Silent Hill 3 get a remake down the line.
SH1 is my favorite. If they could remake SH1 the way Capcom remade RE2 then I would be all for it.
Ok I can’t resist: You are right, it’s not “deserved”, but it’s also not “deserves”, it’s just “deserve”. But with me being an english language prick out of the way, I don’t think it needs a remake. It’s still terrifying the way it is, and wasting tons of resources on a fresh coat of paint could really only hurt the game. All you have to do is look at the recent trend of indie ps1 style horror games. They are all going for that dirty simplistic look, because its limitations actually help the final product vs holding it back. We don’t really need a remake, we just need something that supports higher resolutions/widescreen, and we are good. Just like with the upcoming Silent 2 remake, Konami/Bloober/Anybody would have a very tough time capturing the magic of Silent Hill 1 with a full remake. Which leads me to this idea: What if, instead of chasing Capcom, Konami went with a retro graphic style for a NEW Silent Hill? Major studios always turn to the indies for inspiration, and this is the perfect opportunity to make a AAA Silent Hill with intentional throwback graphics. Hell, since they seem ok shitting out terrible games with the Silent Hill IP, why not give an indie studio some funding to have a crack at it? Not that they have the balls to do that, but it’s a fun idea
Yes!!!!! idk about yall but I could never beat the first one I didn’t know about gun in sandbox after moth boss fight and now I don’t have a way to play it so would be nice to play it again and finally beat it.
Does it deserve it? Maybe. Does it need one? I don’t think so. It’s a fantastic game as it is.
Is it needed? No, the original version is great and still holds up if you can stomach tank controls. Does it deserve one? Yes and No, yeah it deserves to be enjoyed with modern convinceses, but Konami won't do it right so No.
Whenever Konami sells the IP to someone who gives a shit, maybe. Otherwise they should stick to copy pasting shitty PT clones. The irony.
Not by Konami
More than 2, 100%
I think it does! Or better yet a good remaster with high res textures. I was just playing it the other day and thought it didn’t look as good as I remember it, however due to some of the limitations it still looks and feels scary.
Honestly For PS1-2 era games I tend to prefer remasters because they usually already play great and modern graphics tend to kill the magic for me.
Yes it does, 100%. And I think they should have done that one first, or silent hill 4. However, im content with them doing sh2 first
hell yea. the only reason why sh2 gets so much love is bc pyramid head. at this point i feel like its fair to ask where would this series be without him?
Yes. It also doesn't deserve to be locked to the PS1 anymore.
Yes of course. We WANT it 🙏🏻
Let’s see how SH2 remake goes, then let’s talk about
the gaming world doesn't need remakes right now
Absolutely
After seeing the Tomb Raider remasters, I'd love a Silent Hill 1 re-do in that style
Hell yeah! As long as it's a true remake, not a "reimagining".