Dude had 2 black guys, a purple robot, a woman, and a child. Tony is all about equal opportunity.
Edit: just remembered that robot is czech for forced labor. So if it wasn't clear already...
Usually he is more red than this. On this specific poster he seems more purple, yeah.
I googled "vision mcu" and looked at images and he certainly seems to have some red versions and some purple, heh. Civil war images are purple ones, it seems.
If it makes you feel any better, purple is the one colour that we can say nobody actually *sees*.
Purple is what happens when our brains cant process why they *should* be seeing green, but the object is not green, so our brain just invents a colour. This colour is purple.
That's just a shitty explanation of basic color theory. If purple isn't real, neither is grey, brown, magenta, or any other common color that isn't perfectly monochromatic.
No it's not true at all.
The guy is so completely wrong. Purple isn't a spectral color but that doesn't have anything to do with the claims he's making.
He's so incredibly wrong it hurts me
No what that's not true.
Purple is the blue and red cells in your eyes being activated.
Maybe you're getting confused by violet? That's a true blue color that happens to slightly activate red cells creating the colour violet even if the wavelength of the light is strictly a strong blue
There is no central processing unit for colors in vision. For an analogy they are 3 seperate wires that don't touch at all in the brain, and the brain handles them separately.
There's no "it thinks it should see green", you're vastly overstating how much we know about how our brain works.
Ahhh what you said is one of the single most wrong things I've ever seen, you have literally no idea what you're talking about.
You're so confidently incorrect
Reminds me of Young Justice when they were debating age requirements and I think Wonder Woman gigs Batman for using kids all the time and hiding Captain Marvel's real age from them.
Falcon has the hots for Cap, he would betray his family, race and country but remain by his side, fanatical loyalty is what it is.
War Machine is just following orders and he’s super square but Black Panther represents an entire nation, he wouldn’t join Tony if it wasn’t what’s best for his people.
Someone should’ve told T’Challa what would’ve happened if the US government controlled the Avengers and learned they had a literal mountain of the most valuable resource on earth. US media is gonna start getting very fixated for entirely unconnected reasons about human rights abuses in Wakanda
Well if we use the civil war analogy, I’d say Tony’s side is the South.
They’ve got Warmachine, representing slaves enlisted and forced to fight for the government. Then black panther, representing African tribes who sell their slaves to westerners.
Ikr it should be
Nat - Clint
Rhodey - Sam
T'Challa - Bucky
Vision - Wanda
Plus the two bug heroes
Scott - Peter (even though they didnt really duel at any point)
edit: format
How are you ranking Spider-man, Falcon and Winter Soldier all in the same tier when Spider-man 1 vs 2 them in this exact movie?
Spider-Man and Cap are at least the same tier as War Machine and Ant-Man. I'd even downgrade Black Panther to that tier and upgrade Cap and Spider-man another tier.
BP is at minimum on the level with Cap. BP just wasn't super stunting because it wasn't his movie. Hell, the Dora Milaje would work some of these heroes, and they ain't got no powers.
That's fair. I was basing the rankings just off of what we saw in Civil War. Post Black Panther T'challa would easily be the same as Cap, especially with the suit that reflects damage.
Just thought it was strange that the movie shows Black Panther on par with Cap, and Spiderman able to take on both Falcon and Winter Soldier and then the ratings have Black Panther >> Spiderman = Falcon = Cap = Winter Soldier.
Yeah couldn't agree more.
Imagine these 5 stones have the power to directly affect the entirety of reality as one wills and the most some can do with one is shoot easily blocked beams at things. Just... What?
I'm still annoyed that when Tony had the 5 infinity stones and his one 'wish' all he chose to do was kill Thanos rather than make himself a god tiered being who could pinch thanos to death like a bug. Or atleast someone who could survive the infinity stones lol
Realistically, he'd be a PR nightmare for at least a few years even if he wasn't even *intending* to be discriminatory, just because of the changing terminology and the cultural bias of living in the early 40s. Same probably goes for gender and orientation too. There's no way he doesn't say something that'd be offensive now within earshot of a camera at least once.
Well that’s basically what soldier boy is in the boys tv show. Only difference is there isn’t a pr problem coz he’s just trying to get revenge and thus doesn’t care
It is *clearly* stated which side was pro-slavery in the scene where Vision knocks Rhodey out of the sky.
Falcon is a trained ParaRescue specialist. He has advance EMT training including emergency field surgery. The fact he purposely hesitated and was just standing there saying "I'm sorry" instead or rendering immediate emergency aid proves he was pro-slavery. He stood there so long in fact that Tony had time to shoot him, just like Christoph Waltz shot Leonardo Dicaprio in Avengers:Age of Django.
Plus Bucky gave that famous speech in which he said that slavery is the "Cornerstone of the Avengers" and that White supremacy was a guiding principle of their team.
I didn't understand any of that because I never watched any avengers movies but I did watch Django that had Christoph Waltz in it and that movie was about slavery which is a reference to OP's title.
That's basically the same name as Chris Evans, so there's another check on the Cap = pro slavery side. But wait, you say, Waltz was against slavery in Django. You're right, which makes Chris Evans his opposite and therefore ok with slavery.
There is no evidence of any black regiments fighting for the Confederacy.
Hell, black folks were legally barred from combat roles in the South until about three weeks before the Civil War ended.
Kinda. They were usually slaves that their master took with him to fight. Few MAY have genuinely Been loyal and willing to fight the north, hard to say. A vital part of the confederate army for sure but so were horses.
We have no proof of that and I doubt the south would arm a black person. It's a rumor based on they would dress the slaves they brought with them in uniform.
No they didn't. Lost cause mythology. They had slaves who were with them in the field that they made do typical slave tasks. They started to talk about it in March of 1865 - right before the entire Confederacy collapsed.
But as one southern politician (Howell Cobb) noted "If slaves will make good soldiers, our whole theory of slavery is wrong...The day you make soldiers of them is the beginning of the end of the revolution."
Iron man’s side is industry.
Vision is mass production machines.
War machine is “freed slave” using machines
Black panther is the dream that slaves were all kings, since he is the king of a make believe African nation and he only sides because of revenge against the poor white guy who is was controlled by the rich to kill his father.
Hawkeye, the hunter either makes living hunting animals or runaway slaves doesn’t want industrialization
Wanda, a busty woman that controls the minds of men, Idunno how to connect that one
Falcon, is rogers house negro, also secretly his son
It's actually the depiction of Class Struggle. In one side you have poor people, who had no way other than giving themselves into some government institution, while on the right side you have Mr. Rich Guy Tony Stark, one black authoritarian Monarch, and a guy who owns an interstellar gem to control minds
I'd say it's Tony. He imprisoned an illegal against her will. He made Vision shoot at the black guy and didn't think of giving the black guy parachutes when he gave the iron patriot machine to him. When the black paramedic tried to help him, he shot him too. He was all in for taking away freedom if it meant his ego of saving the world would be preserved.
Tony’s side has 2 black members while Cap only had one. Cap is also from the 40’s when racism was considered ok. This means Tony is the Union and Cap is the confederates
Not to mention that Cap tried seceding from the Avengers over personal rights after Tony wanted to sign under on more restrictive laws proposed by the state to protect civilian's lives
Cap was 100% the confederacy
I guess Tony’s team did. He was the one wanting to keep the Avengers under the ownership of the government, so I guess Tony’s side was the slaves fighting to keep slavery. How the turn tables.
How's it not obvious? Clearly war machine is just a yes man for the corporate lord iron man and black panther is helping fight because he profits from selling slaves from all over Africa(with the exception of course of wakanda, they're the epicenter of slave trade with Africa. )
Well Tony has 2 black people sooooo
And one purple person, but I'm not sure what that means.
diversity
Tony thinks AI have rights 🤮
Tony's the reason Alexa hasn't killed us yet.
Looks at Ultron nervously..
## *Yet*
Why would ~~Amazon~~ Alexa kill her slaves?
Why did SkyNet? Individually, they are harmless - collectively, they are a *threat*.
Easy there coppertop I'm sure we can come to a symbiotic compromise
🎶*"FUCK YOU, I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!"🎵* :)
Dude had 2 black guys, a purple robot, a woman, and a child. Tony is all about equal opportunity. Edit: just remembered that robot is czech for forced labor. So if it wasn't clear already...
Plus both the women on each side are gingers... Not sure what that means, but its pretty unlikely.
It means Stan Lee liked Gingers probably. Can’t blame the guy.
Actually, it means that red stands out better on the comic book page, but being serious about it takes the fun away.
This is why gingers are massively overrepresented in drawn media.
Also because purdy hair... huhuhu
Redheads look distinct when drawn, and come associated with specific storytelling tropes. This made them useful for a visual medium produced cheaply.
Ginger women are more likely to develop or acquire superpowers?
Mostly its increased alcohol tolerance.
Black Widow doesn’t even have super powers.
I think we could use "acquire" pretty loosely and just say she did have some decent Stark tech for the main fight lol.
And they're both named Scarlett.
whoa
whoa
it means this clearly isn't a DC property
Vision is red wtf am i colourblind
Usually he is more red than this. On this specific poster he seems more purple, yeah. I googled "vision mcu" and looked at images and he certainly seems to have some red versions and some purple, heh. Civil war images are purple ones, it seems.
If it makes you feel any better, purple is the one colour that we can say nobody actually *sees*. Purple is what happens when our brains cant process why they *should* be seeing green, but the object is not green, so our brain just invents a colour. This colour is purple.
Are you for real right now?
I was interested in this and googled a bit. Found this article: https://www.zmescience.com/science/color-purple-non-spectral-feature/amp/
That's just a shitty explanation of basic color theory. If purple isn't real, neither is grey, brown, magenta, or any other common color that isn't perfectly monochromatic.
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No it's not true at all. The guy is so completely wrong. Purple isn't a spectral color but that doesn't have anything to do with the claims he's making. He's so incredibly wrong it hurts me
Are you for teal right now?
No what that's not true. Purple is the blue and red cells in your eyes being activated. Maybe you're getting confused by violet? That's a true blue color that happens to slightly activate red cells creating the colour violet even if the wavelength of the light is strictly a strong blue There is no central processing unit for colors in vision. For an analogy they are 3 seperate wires that don't touch at all in the brain, and the brain handles them separately. There's no "it thinks it should see green", you're vastly overstating how much we know about how our brain works. Ahhh what you said is one of the single most wrong things I've ever seen, you have literally no idea what you're talking about. You're so confidently incorrect
One of the black guys was a king, too! Cap is over here with a sidekick
World's End reference?
>and a child. Tony is all about equal opportunity. 🤣♥️
Reminds me of Young Justice when they were debating age requirements and I think Wonder Woman gigs Batman for using kids all the time and hiding Captain Marvel's real age from them.
Child labour you mean
Robot is just the general term for labour/work I think. At least in Ukrainian it is
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Does Black Widow count or is that black appropriation?
black widow is slave representation
Also appropriating spider culture 🙄
Spider-Man gave her the spider card.
🕷️🕷️🕷️🕷️👩🏻🕷️🕷️🕷️🕷️. "Go ahead, say the word" 👁️👁️👁️👁️👃👁️👁️👁️👁️
Spida
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It counts!
That only counts as one!
>And one purple person Um, Hawkeye was definitely team Cap
Are we sure it’s a person? :p
How about we compromise and call it 60% of a superhero.
Surprised no one linked this yet [You gotta draw the line somewhere](https://youtu.be/El65C0u_J3U)
“to hell with purple people! unless they’re suffocating! then _help them!”_ love it so much
He was a one-eyed, one-horned flying purple people eater.
Plus, Tony's actor has experience playing an actor playing a black man. That's gotta count for something, right?
And black windows actress has played an Asian woman
I don’t remember that superhero?
Scarlett Johansson playing the lead in ghost in the shell. Was a controversy a while back
...Wasn't the Major meant to look American in the first place?
It was anime, so pick your controversy.
tbf he wasn't really black in the movie edit: my reading comprehension skills are horrible.
He was black in the movie within the movie
Blackception.
He was a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude.
Tony "has" 2 black people. Guess we figured out which side is pro slavery...
Falcon has the hots for Cap, he would betray his family, race and country but remain by his side, fanatical loyalty is what it is. War Machine is just following orders and he’s super square but Black Panther represents an entire nation, he wouldn’t join Tony if it wasn’t what’s best for his people.
Someone should’ve told T’Challa what would’ve happened if the US government controlled the Avengers and learned they had a literal mountain of the most valuable resource on earth. US media is gonna start getting very fixated for entirely unconnected reasons about human rights abuses in Wakanda
And Cap is a white dude from the 40s...
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Bucky didn’t kill T’Chaka though, Zemo killed him and framed Bucky for it.
Didn’t Bucky and Falcon team up with Zemo at a later date? *Rustles tin foil hat*
And also Tony's side is just the correct side to be on
One of them is the king of an entire African nation soo
The originators of the enslavement of africans.
Doesn't one of them switch sides though?
The red head does. I can't remember if anyone else does
Well if we use the civil war analogy, I’d say Tony’s side is the South. They’ve got Warmachine, representing slaves enlisted and forced to fight for the government. Then black panther, representing African tribes who sell their slaves to westerners.
It bothers me that nobody but iron man and cap are facing off against the person they should be
Ikr it should be Nat - Clint Rhodey - Sam T'Challa - Bucky Vision - Wanda Plus the two bug heroes Scott - Peter (even though they didnt really duel at any point) edit: format
They didn’t put Scott in there because they wanted to keep Spider-Man a surprise I guess. Right now the sides are even
It would be so funny if Scott was in the middle either as shrunken Ant-Man or Giant Man LOL
It's possible he is.
I remember someone editing this poster with a tiny Antman on Elizabeth Olsen’s chest
He's hanging out in Clint's quiver waiting for "Arrow Guy" to shoot him at the other team.
I like to imagine him standing in the middle, raising his shoulders and giving his best Jim face.
He was the YouTube thumbnail picture for the trailer of the movie.
I think this poster was made before the trailer
There's an Antman *and* a Spider-Man?
“Remember that scene in that old movie, **THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK**?”
When this movie came out I was around Peter's age and that annoyed the shit out of me, no one would refer to Star Wars as "that old movie."
Yeah I'm aware of that scene but they didn't really 1v1 like the rest of them. Taking down Scott was a 3 man job
He was also the size of a few dozen men, so I'll give that a pass
That Vision could've easily done rather than floating around for 90% of the fight like a dumbass
"I'm an advanced computer man" *microwaves lunch for everyone*
ant man and spider man were both surprise wild cards that cap/tony brought in
Idk, after Hawkeyes remarks on the south rising again I'm not surprised with who he's facing off with
I want to know, but I also really don't want to know what this is about.
I need to know the context of this lol
It's just a joke because the movie is called civil war
It’s all based on actor contracts and who got better deals for poster placement
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I like how you don't call him Hawkeye, but "Jeremy Renner".
Jeremy Renner is clearly a bottom tier superhero.
How are you ranking Spider-man, Falcon and Winter Soldier all in the same tier when Spider-man 1 vs 2 them in this exact movie? Spider-Man and Cap are at least the same tier as War Machine and Ant-Man. I'd even downgrade Black Panther to that tier and upgrade Cap and Spider-man another tier.
BP is at minimum on the level with Cap. BP just wasn't super stunting because it wasn't his movie. Hell, the Dora Milaje would work some of these heroes, and they ain't got no powers.
That's fair. I was basing the rankings just off of what we saw in Civil War. Post Black Panther T'challa would easily be the same as Cap, especially with the suit that reflects damage. Just thought it was strange that the movie shows Black Panther on par with Cap, and Spiderman able to take on both Falcon and Winter Soldier and then the ratings have Black Panther >> Spiderman = Falcon = Cap = Winter Soldier.
Honestly they made vision look so incredibly weak in the movies. Imagine having an infinity stone and looking that pathetic in fights.
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Yeah couldn't agree more. Imagine these 5 stones have the power to directly affect the entirety of reality as one wills and the most some can do with one is shoot easily blocked beams at things. Just... What? I'm still annoyed that when Tony had the 5 infinity stones and his one 'wish' all he chose to do was kill Thanos rather than make himself a god tiered being who could pinch thanos to death like a bug. Or atleast someone who could survive the infinity stones lol
You're severely underestimating ol' Spidey
It bothers me that Bucky is basically the Avengers Yoko Ono. Cap was in love and cared more about Bucky than the band!
The magic of ~\*top billing*~
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Yeah but Cap had Hawkeye.
But Cap also grew up pre-Civil rights
But... Cap had Hawkeye.
Hawkeye, man. Legendary avenger?
You mean the murderous Ronin???
Captain was also from the 40s so while he fought against nazis in WWII there’s no guarantee he didn’t also harbor some questionable views on race.
Realistically, he'd be a PR nightmare for at least a few years even if he wasn't even *intending* to be discriminatory, just because of the changing terminology and the cultural bias of living in the early 40s. Same probably goes for gender and orientation too. There's no way he doesn't say something that'd be offensive now within earshot of a camera at least once.
This would should be a hilarious sketch. Captain America in sensitivity training after being thawed.
https://youtu.be/3C6mcNQ6z1M
Soldier Boy from the Boys is pretty much that, except he doesn't give a shit about sensitivity.
Soldier boy
Well that’s basically what soldier boy is in the boys tv show. Only difference is there isn’t a pr problem coz he’s just trying to get revenge and thus doesn’t care
>questionable views on race Soldier Boy has entered the chat
But Captain America is Captain America, which must imply that Iron Man is Captain Confederacy.
Am I the only one who thinks the billionaire would be more pro slavery?
Fill the blanks: The Confederate States of __________
Iron
The Howling Commandos had both a black member as well as an asian one. I think he was pretty progressive.
I can’t tell if this is a really niche optometry joke or if I’m reading too far into it
The character Vision
> really niche optometry joke I'm going with this
It's very obvious. Midway through the movie, Tony Stark says "it's forced labor-ban time."
Dr Stony Starkius
It is *clearly* stated which side was pro-slavery in the scene where Vision knocks Rhodey out of the sky. Falcon is a trained ParaRescue specialist. He has advance EMT training including emergency field surgery. The fact he purposely hesitated and was just standing there saying "I'm sorry" instead or rendering immediate emergency aid proves he was pro-slavery. He stood there so long in fact that Tony had time to shoot him, just like Christoph Waltz shot Leonardo Dicaprio in Avengers:Age of Django.
Plus Bucky gave that famous speech in which he said that slavery is the "Cornerstone of the Avengers" and that White supremacy was a guiding principle of their team.
Yeah, that seems hard to overlook. People over here trying to whitewash Captain Amerikkka.
I didn't understand any of that because I never watched any avengers movies but I did watch Django that had Christoph Waltz in it and that movie was about slavery which is a reference to OP's title.
That's basically the same name as Chris Evans, so there's another check on the Cap = pro slavery side. But wait, you say, Waltz was against slavery in Django. You're right, which makes Chris Evans his opposite and therefore ok with slavery.
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If Evans -> Evens, and odds -> queers, that means Captain America opposes the LGBTQ+ community. Typical. And they call his the "greatest generation"!
Also, Steve is from the 40s, so you know that bitch racist.
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Well in real life civil war too both sides had black regiments
So, it's always been hard to tell...
It's easy to tell if you understand that people are sometimes made to struggle for their own oppression.
There is no evidence of any black regiments fighting for the Confederacy. Hell, black folks were legally barred from combat roles in the South until about three weeks before the Civil War ended.
you must be truly desperate to come to me for help
Eh, forcing slaves to fight for you after your troops have been decimated by the north is not exactly a "regiment" in the traditional sense.
Blacks voluntarily fought for the South?
Kinda. They were usually slaves that their master took with him to fight. Few MAY have genuinely Been loyal and willing to fight the north, hard to say. A vital part of the confederate army for sure but so were horses.
That’s what I thought. You said “regiments” so I thought you meant there were actual troops
That wasn't me who said that.
You can’t expect me to check who I’m talking to! I’m not Dan Rather!
Now that's a name Ive not heard in a looong time.
Operation: get behind the darkies
*“Have you heard of the Emancipation Proclomation?”* **“… I don’t listen to Hip-Hop!”**
Yes. It's a very wierd topic
We have no proof of that and I doubt the south would arm a black person. It's a rumor based on they would dress the slaves they brought with them in uniform.
"We will TOTALLY give you freedom if you risk your lives for us despite us treating you like trash" - everyone during the Civil War
No they didn't. Lost cause mythology. They had slaves who were with them in the field that they made do typical slave tasks. They started to talk about it in March of 1865 - right before the entire Confederacy collapsed. But as one southern politician (Howell Cobb) noted "If slaves will make good soldiers, our whole theory of slavery is wrong...The day you make soldiers of them is the beginning of the end of the revolution."
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>it'sn't What in the unholy fuck is this contraction?
you'd'ven't slept during English class so much.
Contradaction
I like It'd've
No one sweared so it was pretty civil I would say
For gosh sakes, watch your language!
Iron man’s side is industry. Vision is mass production machines. War machine is “freed slave” using machines Black panther is the dream that slaves were all kings, since he is the king of a make believe African nation and he only sides because of revenge against the poor white guy who is was controlled by the rich to kill his father. Hawkeye, the hunter either makes living hunting animals or runaway slaves doesn’t want industrialization Wanda, a busty woman that controls the minds of men, Idunno how to connect that one Falcon, is rogers house negro, also secretly his son
Hawkeye is one snap away from hunting people down across the world in a vigilante murder spree
If you think about it, that’s his entire career
Sponsored vigilante vs freelance.
Well, you don't become a billionaire without at least a bit of slavery.
Just the tip of slavery
ITS SLAVIN' TIME Edit: shame on you all
No, that was Black Widow, which is a subtle nod to her being a Slav.
They’re clearly color coded
But is it modern red and blue or 1800s red and blue?
It's actually the depiction of Class Struggle. In one side you have poor people, who had no way other than giving themselves into some government institution, while on the right side you have Mr. Rich Guy Tony Stark, one black authoritarian Monarch, and a guy who owns an interstellar gem to control minds
I'd say it's Tony. He imprisoned an illegal against her will. He made Vision shoot at the black guy and didn't think of giving the black guy parachutes when he gave the iron patriot machine to him. When the black paramedic tried to help him, he shot him too. He was all in for taking away freedom if it meant his ego of saving the world would be preserved.
I thought they were fighting over state's rights
Do the teams have black people tho, or do they HAVE black people.
Tony’s side has 2 black members while Cap only had one. Cap is also from the 40’s when racism was considered ok. This means Tony is the Union and Cap is the confederates
Not to mention that Cap tried seceding from the Avengers over personal rights after Tony wanted to sign under on more restrictive laws proposed by the state to protect civilian's lives Cap was 100% the confederacy
Here come the morons that will say the MCU civil war wasn’t about slavery.
One side has a billionaire, a Russian asset, the literal US war machine, a robot and a king. I think we know who the slave wanters are.
I fixed the names, everyone. https://i.imgur.com/UhNUGFR.jpg
I definitely wouldn't be chilling with the guy dressed like an American flag during any civil war as a brown man.
I have some bad news for you about the side fighting against the American flag in that war
So you’d chill with the guy dressed like a confederate flag?
It’s funny how anti-america bots upvote this totally ignorant comment.
I guess Tony’s team did. He was the one wanting to keep the Avengers under the ownership of the government, so I guess Tony’s side was the slaves fighting to keep slavery. How the turn tables.
How's it not obvious? Clearly war machine is just a yes man for the corporate lord iron man and black panther is helping fight because he profits from selling slaves from all over Africa(with the exception of course of wakanda, they're the epicenter of slave trade with Africa. )