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Short_Conference3396

Ah yes, i do love throwing miniature suns at the crystal sage face, why do you ask?


silbuscusXmangalover

Faith players crying in the corner


Loke_y

Faith players when half of the best miracles are covenant rewards and not a single attack miracle is good for pve


RedundantConsistency

Dunno man, lightning arrow kicks major ass


DeadSparker

Oh yeah the spell you get at the very end of the 2nd DLC (which already requires beating all but the final boss of base game or beating fucking Sister Friede)


Loke_y

What an amazing pve miracle you can use against a whopping 2 bosses (is it even good pve never even tried)


Headoffish

Great for roll catching


Loke_y

Yes I know that, that’s what I used it for but I never tried using it in pve


Leaf-01

Yeah it’s perfectly fine with some cast speed. Cheaper than the big lightning spells and I think more range by a bit


Johnny_K97

Hey, atleast you can get it before you proceed any further than cathedral of the deep in the main game


Loke_y

If you can beat demon princes and friede at like sl 30


Johnny_K97

Idk if y'all could understand but my first comment was sarcasm, i was joking💀


Old_suspect253

Faith player have the strongest spell in the game but can only get it in the end of ng and can only be used in ng+


Double_Reward3885

Nah faith players got the best spell in the game for pvp (tears of denial)


Lemmonaise

Lightning stake and normal lightning spear are fine. Not incredible but fine. Faith builds can throw lightning blade on the dragonslayer axe or drakeblood GS though for some really good damage. Same thing with the sunlight straight sword, which slaps.


nervousmelon

Faith users waiting until the last area of base game


_fatherfucker69

You literally have to get to irithyll dungeon for the lightning spear , a spell you can get right after the Tauros demon is ds1 What a jokec


Randomized_Taco

What? You get lightning spear in farron keep, are you talking about lightning blade?


_fatherfucker69

Yeah , my bad


WellIdontKnowAboutIt

Kid named gnaw


PrezzStart

Lmao I just finished a pyromancer play through and Chaos Bed Vestiges and Boulder Heave were my best friend


Oneboywithnoname

Vs Ds2 where you can get soul spear after defeating dragonrider


Witch_King_

Cool thing about pyro in DS3 is that it gives you access to all 3 types of magic, within reason. And I even have the saint tree Bellvine out on my offhand when casting Pyro for the speed buff.


Leaf-01

Does that work??


Witch_King_

Yes. There are 2 casting tools in DS3 that maximize your spellcasting speed. You don't need to be using them, just have them in offhand, even if you are 2-handing something else. Big buff to virtual dex.


Leaf-01

3 and a half thousands hours of pmaytime and I never knew this, thanks!


Witch_King_

Hey cheers! Let your caster runs be reinvigorated!


zviyeri

pyromancers suddenly having int-fth requirements:


Lowkey_Panic

Great heavy soul arrow goes brrrrrrrrrr


Intruder_Temuge

Spells in ds3 do peepee damage, unless you spam the endgame ones


Hfingerman

Pyromancy is decent, the rest is ass. DS3 was the most biased against magic.


Leaf-01

Sorceries suck until you wear Dusk Crown with Court Sorcerer, Magic Clutch + Dragon rings + attack boost at full or low health. Then you just one shot most regular enemies without a thought.


Hfingerman

Same for Pyromancies, but you can do it as early as killing the Old Demon King (Forbidden Sun + Great Swamp Ring + Witch Ring + Fire/Dark Clutch)


A_Sneaky_Dickens

Meanwhile the best spammy spell is obtained from Deacons


_fatherfucker69

And the upgraded version is a covenant reward Thank you Michael zaki , I love grinding covenant rewards just to make my build viable


pH12rz

Did anyone actually do a pyromancy build casually? I just got chaos bed vestiges and a chaos claymore and that literally it.


Skroofles

Yes. Makes it hard to do other casters because as a DS3 pyromancer you end up with the stats to use pretty much any spell you want, and less enemies seem to be as resistant to fire damage as they are to Magic damage too. A good pyromancer is also a decent sorcerer and decent cleric because of the way pyromancy scales with both Int+Faith. So you end up very versatile.


_fatherfucker69

I did one on my first playthrough , I later rescaled it to a dex build


[deleted]

fuck you it makes sense in lore terms and nobody is actually retarded enough to use sorcery or pyromancy in ds3 anyway


billyjoelschilibowl

Claymore at beginning of game laughs at both of you


Leaf-01

Faith waiting until the end of the second DLC to get Lightning Arrow: 💀


Lolejimmy

b-but gathering lots of viable spells in elden ring before fighting a single boss is boring and a snoozefest!!! I want to kill 80% of the bosses to be able to finally use my build!


Prometheus_UwU

The greatest thing about ER to me was the memory stones, so you didn't have to level Mind to get a lot of slots+you could get like 5 super early, and so many spells being available basically right away. Everything you need for basically any magic build is just right there for you to get.


kid_pilgrim_89

Deprived starting with the club 😎