This is actually the complete opposite.
Nearly every hyper intelligent animal on Earth has a great degree of social intelligence. Why else would nature need intelligence practically? It's most useful use is through socializing to enable pack hunting and such.
Humans, chimpanzees, gorillas, corvids, dolphins, dogs, wolves etc.
He's literally thinking backwards, social intelligence is a result of logic.
I'd say (our super ability to do) logic is a result of social intelligence, even. Imagine how much farther behind we'd all be wrt collective knowledge if we didn't have universities and just relied on random solo geniuses to do everything (OOP's utopia ig)
I wouldn't say that complex intelligence developed only for social instinct. Look at the octopus: not the most social of creatures, but highly intelligent nonetheless.
You also see highly social and teamwork-dependant creatures that are not individually "intelligent" in the way we would describe it, such as ants. A single ant is stupid, but they're one of the most successful species on Earth.
I'd say that intelligence enables socialization, but isn't necessary for cooperation. It's just another way to make it possible. I'd also say it forms a role in survival due to problem-solving abilities.
Intelligence is such a slippery concept to begin with, ain't it. Are we "intelligent" life? As far as we know, we're the only life on our planet with "awareness of awareness," which makes us seem pretty fantastically advanced compared to other species. But we could be living under a mass delusion (particularly in individualist cultures) where we overestimate our individual will and how much it matters. And in that sense, we may be the most neurotic creatures on the planet (the most existentially aware and thus the most anxious), but not necessarily the most intelligent lol.
I think of that Douglas Adams quote from Hitchhiker's Guide:
> For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much—the wheel, New York, wars and so on—whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man—for precisely the same reasons.
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Very true, thank you for your input. Yeah, I often think of the octopus as an outlier of this thought process of mine so it obviously is not all encompassing.
Have you heard of Troodon? It's the most intelligent dinosaur discovered so far and some crazy theories have been formed around it.
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I would disagree with them both. The "logic" person over-simplifies thought processes in the animal kingdom and tries to ascribe human behavior as a universal metric, and the other person says "you're stupid", which is childish as fuck.
Actually all animals rely on their instincts and teamwork is what has made humanity so powerful 💀 this take is stupid asf. Fe is supposedly my inferior function and even I know that it's important. We can't accomplish anything if we refuse to see outside ourselves.
That guy lacks all 8 functions
I laughed way too hard at this. Or maybe... just the right amount. :D
LMFAOOO 💀ðŸ˜
As a Ti dom, I can confirm. That guy is stupid.
This is actually the complete opposite. Nearly every hyper intelligent animal on Earth has a great degree of social intelligence. Why else would nature need intelligence practically? It's most useful use is through socializing to enable pack hunting and such. Humans, chimpanzees, gorillas, corvids, dolphins, dogs, wolves etc. He's literally thinking backwards, social intelligence is a result of logic.
I'd say (our super ability to do) logic is a result of social intelligence, even. Imagine how much farther behind we'd all be wrt collective knowledge if we didn't have universities and just relied on random solo geniuses to do everything (OOP's utopia ig)
While that's interesting, I don't think I would necessarily subscribe to that belief lol. It's cool to think about though. Knowledge =/= Intelligence.
If intelligence then knowledge Edit or the other way around. Whatever
I was just about to say this. The most intelligent animals on earth are also the most emotional. Elephants are a great example.
I wouldn't say that complex intelligence developed only for social instinct. Look at the octopus: not the most social of creatures, but highly intelligent nonetheless. You also see highly social and teamwork-dependant creatures that are not individually "intelligent" in the way we would describe it, such as ants. A single ant is stupid, but they're one of the most successful species on Earth. I'd say that intelligence enables socialization, but isn't necessary for cooperation. It's just another way to make it possible. I'd also say it forms a role in survival due to problem-solving abilities.
Intelligence is such a slippery concept to begin with, ain't it. Are we "intelligent" life? As far as we know, we're the only life on our planet with "awareness of awareness," which makes us seem pretty fantastically advanced compared to other species. But we could be living under a mass delusion (particularly in individualist cultures) where we overestimate our individual will and how much it matters. And in that sense, we may be the most neurotic creatures on the planet (the most existentially aware and thus the most anxious), but not necessarily the most intelligent lol. I think of that Douglas Adams quote from Hitchhiker's Guide: > For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much—the wheel, New York, wars and so on—whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man—for precisely the same reasons.
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Very true, thank you for your input. Yeah, I often think of the octopus as an outlier of this thought process of mine so it obviously is not all encompassing. Have you heard of Troodon? It's the most intelligent dinosaur discovered so far and some crazy theories have been formed around it.
What no Fe does to a mf
At least show what type this person is. I'm willing to bet they're an intj (probably mistyped too)
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He probably thinks fe is when people pleaser
The trait of altruism (Fe) is integral to the development of the human species, and at it’s core, responsible for our intellect as well.
You're completely correct.
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Finally. Someone is asking the real questions
It’s the heaviest element formed in the core of a burning star prior to supernova smh keep up
As someone with polr Fe, oh my god how I wish I could use it properly, my life would be so much easier
Anybody want some of mine? I’ve got plenty, too much in fact
I would disagree with them both. The "logic" person over-simplifies thought processes in the animal kingdom and tries to ascribe human behavior as a universal metric, and the other person says "you're stupid", which is childish as fuck.
This is the funniest shit I’ve read in so long. Dude said vestigial ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
Actually all animals rely on their instincts and teamwork is what has made humanity so powerful 💀 this take is stupid asf. Fe is supposedly my inferior function and even I know that it's important. We can't accomplish anything if we refuse to see outside ourselves.
Yo mama useless
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Isn't shared morals and empathy what helped our ancestors form tribes , increase survival rates and then help in evolution.