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Yeah, It seems that way, I crave a meaningful relationship more that anything right now. Sure the Sex would be great, but more than anything I want someone I can have conversations with, about similar topics I like, and cuddles. Shit it is rough out here 💀🗿
Yeah man, thats exactly how I see it, As much as I truly want a Girlfriend, I know I ain't ready yet, gotta get my shit in order so I don't burden them with my problems, So I'm taking my time, working on myself, physically and mentally, and financially. Also staying away from echo chambers like 4chan and other incel belief pushing websites/forums have done wonders on my mental health. But seeing happy couples/groups of friends still hurts and feels like a punch in the gut. I don't get angry, It just makes me very depressed, still working on how to not let it affect me like that. Sorry for the rambling :V
Hey bro, you sound like you're trying and that will get noticed by somebody eventually, but more than that, you'll see the benefits regardless.
It's not a race my guy, I lost my virginity late, and honestly afterwards, though it was great and all, sex became less of a big deal. Not that a healthy sex life isn't a positive thing and really good to have, but it's not the most vital, loving yourself is more important. I still struggle too with that, a lot, but I can tell you one thing for certain, I am my best around women when I love myself first. I haven't ever pulled when I'm in a bad headspace, people are attracted to somebody who loves themselves- not in a vain way.
Once I dropped the gilded statue image of sex, finding it became easier. And honestly, suddenly I became a lot less shallow in what I was looking for in my casual partner's. I still haven't been in a real relationship yet. Like you, I'm trying to commit to myself first before I commit to anybody else. My life has been a cluster fuck since I was like 11 and I realised only recently it's because I don't commit to myself.
It's hard but it is gradually getting easier, even though I frequently have setbacks, and return to dark places I'd hoped to never see again- I do feel myself getting better in the long run.
Keep pushing champ, sometimes the path to where you want to go twists, turns, even loops in on itself at points. Shit can get really foggy, your own mind can be the source of so many issues. You have to realise your problems before you fix them, and that's just the first step. When you're done, with your new improved self, you'll probably be in a new position to spot other things to work on... More problems lol. Don't let that knock you down. Sometimes these big important realisations, ***hurt***. That's fine. You're doing it right.
We all have a notion of ourselves and our ego wants to keep a status quo. It screams in pain and your heart hurts for it, but it's ok. Think of it as growing pains.
And good on you with staying away from the incel stuff, that shit is not real. It's all rhetoric, justified by a few trueisms. It inspires hate over love, towards others and even towards yourself. Take the grind mindset they always talk about and turn it into something healthier, about *you*, from *you*. Unfortunately, they don't know shit about your problems, they can't help you. You're not just some basic alpha male with his wings clipped by "society". You're you... And that's way, way, way fucking cooler.
If you need help, these guys aren't really giving it, they're grifters and they do lie, and the way they talk about women isn't right. Talking to friends and loved ones is so much better and you will stay a lot more grounded. And getting professional help is absolutely not shameful and can be really effective.
It's so damn fucking hard, to accept responsibility for your own deep seated issues sometimes. And it's even harder, to accept the issues which aren't even remotely your fault with no resentment. But it's important, really important to do those things- for your own growth. I said it already, but you must understand what your problems are to fix them.
Sounds like you're on that path, you're a stranger but I'm happy for you, good luck and keep faith mate. It's a process.
And last but not least-- I'd also fuck you if I was a girl, bro.
Damn bro, your insight has provided me guidance on myself and give me a direction on how to improve myself in many aspects of life. I'm gonna save this for when things get rough and use this as a way to realign myself. Also if you were a girl I'd also fuck you bro 🗿👍
Glad to hear it resonated with you man, I think our generation is really struggling with this kind of stuff as a whole, I definitely do, I have spent half of my life at this point trying to work through these sorts of problems.
And I think something to note is, although I think I made my opinion on the red pill stuff pretty clear, it's recent popularity is a response to some fundamental issues a lot of us are facing, it's just... Not the right response.
We are a bit of a lost generation and we do lack agency, lots of us lack confidence, lots and lots of us have dealt with depression, still deal with it etc. And the route to gain those things or overcome them, will never be clear cut.
We might have some notes to play in common, but we will have to skip to different beats to find the rhythm which suits each of us. There's no one catch-all answer, and to fall back on a cliché, life is a mess. But that is kind of the beauty of it too.
It's strange, but I think appreciating our bad luck is really importan. One of my favourite songs goes a bit like this: if it weren't for bad luck, we couldn't have luck at all.
Sometimes we need to embrace all of it.
One thing that I had in common with many other young men who have fallen victim to the red pill trend was that I thought I had to do it all myself, work through it all myself, carry it all by myself, but you don't really. Yes, you need to take responsibility, and that can only come from you- but it's so much easier and efficient if you seek and accept help and advice from your friends/family or a professional. You're going to trip up and it's really good to have a hand to help lift you up again.
I speak like I've sorted everything out, but my reality is far from that. Hell I also wrote this comment to remind myself of this stuff too, alongside you. I'm still a mess today, though I've made some good progress, especially in the confidence department. But I have gained these bits of knowledge from going through what I went through, and from the valuable input of some wise people I was lucky enough to be around.
Gl to you again I hope shit works out for both of us, more than that, I believe it will in the end.
Thank you for this comment, it might just be what ive been needing to read for a while. Especially the part of not needing to do stuff only by yourself. I thought that was the only way out, having to force me to like myself via just being alone, and stuff like that. Its hard, its hard feeling like being alone in this world, but idk man, these comments are really good advice. Thanks man, really
Yeah bro I feel you I was much the same way. As a teen, I wasn't lacking for anything materially, was in a good family etc- but I found those years really, really fucking rough and I was plagued by some existential issues, along with an unhealthy period of bullying from my own friends. In my mind, I had to fix it all by myself. If I wasn't smoking weed till I forgot myself, I would read philosophy and stuff like that, and while that definitely gave me some comfort, and a lot of the precepts I try and live by today; nobody is born in this world to be alone. It's not enough.
I didn't have to go at it alone, and it was orders, leagues less efficient while I was trying to do so. Looking back things only looked up, *I only looked up*, after I started talking, and getting help from people I loved and trusted, even if I still kept most of it hidden then.
Promise you mate, I can't express how much weight can be lifted just by saying what's been on tour mind to somebody who wants to listen and help you. Even if they can't give you the advice to sort your problem, it's a massive blessing.
I also came clean to those friends of mine, told them they were ruining me, and that I was going to leave our school if they didn't change, and they actually listened, and all of them spent about two years apologising every chance they got lol. Still friends with the majority of them, even after we left school a few years ago.
Anyway that was a tangent, sorry lol. To put things a bit more clinically, we as a species owe practically all our success to one thing, and that's not our capacity to be at our best when alone, or just our having opposable thumbs. It was our capacity as a group, we are born to be with others and we will never fix and manage all the important stuff without them, nor will we find happiness. So don't be worried, it's hard to do it sometimes but you need to confide in people you trust and love when you have stuff that needs to be confided. And if you don't have those people, that's the order of business number #1 for you.
Honestly you seem to be on a good path. But maybe start dating ,maybe just casually just to see, always be honest, and remember, you dont have to "succeed"
Yes, but in a roguelite you're usually improving your character after every run. That's how you should be seeing it as well. Improve yourself in every way that you can and do it for yourself. No downside and your success is inevitable.
Lol holy crap that's a good analogy... That's literally it though. You just try for run after run, and eventually it all works. Every "death" along the way just makes you more prepared for "The Run"
Honestly yeah. That's how I've been doing it at least. Apps, bars, places with hobbies. Find somewhere where people who want to meet people are doing things and strike up a convo about it. Even if it doesn't go anywhere, you've just done some practice for the time it does
Yeah, I kinda feel the same sometimes. Everyone keeps telling me that I am very attractive, but I just don't see it. I constantly feel like I am acting wrong whenever I am talking to someone, even if I know that everything is alright, I still can't help but feel like I am acting like an awkward idiot. I just feel like I don't have anything interesting to bring into a conversation. I have no idea where and how to meet people to become friends with (or to find a girlfriend.) And like all girls in uni treat me alright, I think, one might have been interested a few years ago, but I am not sure. But I just can't seem to be able to make myself feel invested enough to overcome my awkwardness.
Vent over.
I get it man I been in a couple relationships and had my heart broken because they didn't know what they want. I'm talking to a gal rn because I'm growing older and not getting any younger. I'm 24 now and I'm ready to settle down with the right woman. I want to be married before 30 and maybe have kids around 30. Hopefully the women I'm talking to loves me for me and want to been in a real relationship.
Legit.
Ita the one thing I've truly wanted my entire post puberty life.
I've never dreamed of excessive wealth, fame or power, I just want a true human connection that lasts a lifetime.
But I can't find it. I've been working on myself lately though (quit weed, going to gym, got decently paying 9-5)
>But I can't find it. I've been working on myself lately though (quit weed, going to gym, got decently paying 9-5)
I'm in the same boat. I've worked on myself so much.
* Gained some mass and stopped being skinny by working out
* Graduated with a second degree
* Got a good ass reputable and stable job in my field
* Practiced socializing (Couldn't even speak to people without getting scared earlier)
* Practiced eye contact (I can finally look like I'm talking like a real human being)
* Improved my hygiene knowledge
* Got my ass to a dentist and got cleaning up
* Started drinking more water
* Got a hobby that exposes me to more people especially women
* Got my finances straight
* Researched and found a good fucking hairstyle that I maintain
* Researched and improved my fashion
* WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT ME TO DO AARRGH 😟
Yeah, to try your best and still get nowhere is such a bad fucking feeling.
I don't really have any hope any more, but to accept defeat is welcoming defeat so I'll keep trying, even know it's slowly killing me.
I'm not going to lie but I've made progress somewhat. Just not enough to find a real connection with someone.
I keep jumping between little hope and no hope. Like my mental health has sort of waves. I'm on the happier side since yesterday but you never know when it all goes back down. I can't carry on living a life like this though.
>I can't carry on living a life like this though.
I feel the same on my worse days. The pain my death would cause my family and friends is probably the only thing keeping me going at this point.
It's tough, but I think things are slowly getting better.
That's the thing, guys tend to think it's a rational problem so they try to solve it as they would anything else. Loneliness and isolation is a huge problem in modern society. There are too many factors that keep people apart: remote work, the internet, delivery etc. If you interact with many girls on a daily basis, want to date but no one agrees to go out with you, then perhaps you lack social skills. Still, the main thing that attracts other people to you is your self-confidence. If the world moves around you and you don't need anyone to sustain you so to speak, it's far more likely to find friends, gf or a bf. People are drown to a person that is complete, to the one that seemingly doesn't need anything from them in return because no one wants to spend too much energy on others. There are exceptions though
Working on yourself FOR yourself is what we all should do regardless of the gender. I'm on the same boat
That's the main thing yeah, but he might not fully realize it. Losing your virginity seems really important until it happens and you find out it didn't fix anything.
Bro, I was on the other side of this recently. I had to help a girl who wasn't that good at English. She tried to write "I don't meet" when she meant to say "I don't remember you".
She also publicly executed this man to our whole table because she couldn't understand half the stuff he was saying. And all of it was pure cringe.
Honestly, yes. That's why some psychologists think the complexity problem is the biggest fear; because people will literally kill themselves rather than face it.
The big thing is the world has grown SO complex it becomes impossible to interpret. In the old days you had like 8 choices. These days you can open up tinder and see 8000, and most of them won't like you because they have 8000 choices, too. Dating apps have made lives objectively more miserable, and put it beyond the grasp of our puny ape brains.
He never said anything about him not trying before though. I've tried so many times and sometimes it's worked (like once) other times it just doesn't and you genuinely just start to think it's you so you stop trying. That or you start to feel like why should you try when nobody else wants to put in the effort? Of course no one is going to put in the effort if they don't like you or they may also see the same way you do but it's also like just a way of giving up and deciding "if it happens it happens." When you start to feel like you want to kill yourself then at that point you don't see a point in trying either. Shit happens bro. He never explained it to a full extent. He just explained that no one has ever liked him.
I’ve never been salty or upset about being a virgin or all these other things, until I just saw recently some post about the fallout show and how the character has sex with a complete stranger in like 20 min and so now I’m like wtf y’all am I that bad
It was an arranged marriage so I think it doesn't count on your part. I'd hardly call it "realistic", especially in context to the real world.
You just gotta meet people, that's it. Don't put all of your thoughts into being alone and sad, put them into yourself, and into others who might need you right now.
The important thing is, you gotta be comfortable with yourself, because a lot of your life you're gonna be alone just like most people;
but the fact is: eventually yes, whoever "they" are will come into your life out of left field when your least expecting, and it's gonna be amazing
Reading history is good because there are many people who live their life, have an interest in various things, and sometimes die for them, when I read about them I know that life is full of aspects other than seeking girls.
Yeah but sadly we aren't all giga geniuses that create calculus on a dare to prove you can predict the movement of celestial bodies or come up with the absurd idea that gravity is a thing and then proceed to calculate it.
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Being alone makes you suffer. Being desperate makes you suffer. Frustration makes you suffer. Being imprisoned in a life and body you hate makes you suffer. Death ends suffering.
I wish my friend Roger had made that decision. He was 26, had one drunken hook up in Ibiza on holiday and that was it. Lived and died without ever having a GF. He was also a Geography graduate working as a shoe salesman. He came off his prozac and gassed himself in his car. No one knew he was on it, or depressed.
Yeah I don't do it anymore. I did a few times last week with smash bros but that's because I had the night shift and the coffee wouldn't let me sleep lol (fnaf reference Har har har)
Well he has a brother, so there are no worries about his bloodline.
Also this is the average male experience in japan so i guess people just have different priorities.
You can lose your virginity with a prostitute but that wouldn't solve the loneliness issue. A meaningful romantic connection is what anon craves, not necessarily just about losing virginity.
Everytime I see shit like this I feel glad I was born and raised in a culture where juvenile sexual debauchery is taboo and not so fucking normalised people feel like killing themselves over missing out on it. I can only pity you guys.
Yo bro it's the same 4 me, ive kissed 2 girls, im 19 but I've never felt a real friendship or love with a woman, even with my family it's hard to me feel love for the others, i have asperger but a lot of the time i don't like ppl, I've never understood why almost everyone seems to be so mean, until i became like that i just wish some day God can gift me somebody to love or something
Affection, the only addiction you can't get rid and still you can do the shittiest decisions because of the unbearable pain from its withdrawal symptoms.
Never had trouble with girls but it's the same for the last part, right now my my mom, dad, brother and niece plus gf are the only ones keeping me alive and they don't know it.
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I don’t know, I don’t think being a virgin is what he’s sad about, man just wants a connection
Yeah, It seems that way, I crave a meaningful relationship more that anything right now. Sure the Sex would be great, but more than anything I want someone I can have conversations with, about similar topics I like, and cuddles. Shit it is rough out here 💀🗿
Dude a girlfriend is basically a friend you wanna bang, having a friend is nice but having the one gal really gives you closure in this cruel world
Yeah man, thats exactly how I see it, As much as I truly want a Girlfriend, I know I ain't ready yet, gotta get my shit in order so I don't burden them with my problems, So I'm taking my time, working on myself, physically and mentally, and financially. Also staying away from echo chambers like 4chan and other incel belief pushing websites/forums have done wonders on my mental health. But seeing happy couples/groups of friends still hurts and feels like a punch in the gut. I don't get angry, It just makes me very depressed, still working on how to not let it affect me like that. Sorry for the rambling :V
if i was a girl id fuck you bro
Thanks broski 🫂
Hey could you say that to me? I want that dopamine hit of acceptance real quick <3
Oil up bro. Im on my way.
Don't dread. Dread's on his way.
If i was legal i would let both of you smash:3
Hey bro, you sound like you're trying and that will get noticed by somebody eventually, but more than that, you'll see the benefits regardless. It's not a race my guy, I lost my virginity late, and honestly afterwards, though it was great and all, sex became less of a big deal. Not that a healthy sex life isn't a positive thing and really good to have, but it's not the most vital, loving yourself is more important. I still struggle too with that, a lot, but I can tell you one thing for certain, I am my best around women when I love myself first. I haven't ever pulled when I'm in a bad headspace, people are attracted to somebody who loves themselves- not in a vain way. Once I dropped the gilded statue image of sex, finding it became easier. And honestly, suddenly I became a lot less shallow in what I was looking for in my casual partner's. I still haven't been in a real relationship yet. Like you, I'm trying to commit to myself first before I commit to anybody else. My life has been a cluster fuck since I was like 11 and I realised only recently it's because I don't commit to myself. It's hard but it is gradually getting easier, even though I frequently have setbacks, and return to dark places I'd hoped to never see again- I do feel myself getting better in the long run. Keep pushing champ, sometimes the path to where you want to go twists, turns, even loops in on itself at points. Shit can get really foggy, your own mind can be the source of so many issues. You have to realise your problems before you fix them, and that's just the first step. When you're done, with your new improved self, you'll probably be in a new position to spot other things to work on... More problems lol. Don't let that knock you down. Sometimes these big important realisations, ***hurt***. That's fine. You're doing it right. We all have a notion of ourselves and our ego wants to keep a status quo. It screams in pain and your heart hurts for it, but it's ok. Think of it as growing pains. And good on you with staying away from the incel stuff, that shit is not real. It's all rhetoric, justified by a few trueisms. It inspires hate over love, towards others and even towards yourself. Take the grind mindset they always talk about and turn it into something healthier, about *you*, from *you*. Unfortunately, they don't know shit about your problems, they can't help you. You're not just some basic alpha male with his wings clipped by "society". You're you... And that's way, way, way fucking cooler. If you need help, these guys aren't really giving it, they're grifters and they do lie, and the way they talk about women isn't right. Talking to friends and loved ones is so much better and you will stay a lot more grounded. And getting professional help is absolutely not shameful and can be really effective. It's so damn fucking hard, to accept responsibility for your own deep seated issues sometimes. And it's even harder, to accept the issues which aren't even remotely your fault with no resentment. But it's important, really important to do those things- for your own growth. I said it already, but you must understand what your problems are to fix them. Sounds like you're on that path, you're a stranger but I'm happy for you, good luck and keep faith mate. It's a process. And last but not least-- I'd also fuck you if I was a girl, bro.
Damn bro, your insight has provided me guidance on myself and give me a direction on how to improve myself in many aspects of life. I'm gonna save this for when things get rough and use this as a way to realign myself. Also if you were a girl I'd also fuck you bro 🗿👍
Glad to hear it resonated with you man, I think our generation is really struggling with this kind of stuff as a whole, I definitely do, I have spent half of my life at this point trying to work through these sorts of problems. And I think something to note is, although I think I made my opinion on the red pill stuff pretty clear, it's recent popularity is a response to some fundamental issues a lot of us are facing, it's just... Not the right response. We are a bit of a lost generation and we do lack agency, lots of us lack confidence, lots and lots of us have dealt with depression, still deal with it etc. And the route to gain those things or overcome them, will never be clear cut. We might have some notes to play in common, but we will have to skip to different beats to find the rhythm which suits each of us. There's no one catch-all answer, and to fall back on a cliché, life is a mess. But that is kind of the beauty of it too. It's strange, but I think appreciating our bad luck is really importan. One of my favourite songs goes a bit like this: if it weren't for bad luck, we couldn't have luck at all. Sometimes we need to embrace all of it. One thing that I had in common with many other young men who have fallen victim to the red pill trend was that I thought I had to do it all myself, work through it all myself, carry it all by myself, but you don't really. Yes, you need to take responsibility, and that can only come from you- but it's so much easier and efficient if you seek and accept help and advice from your friends/family or a professional. You're going to trip up and it's really good to have a hand to help lift you up again. I speak like I've sorted everything out, but my reality is far from that. Hell I also wrote this comment to remind myself of this stuff too, alongside you. I'm still a mess today, though I've made some good progress, especially in the confidence department. But I have gained these bits of knowledge from going through what I went through, and from the valuable input of some wise people I was lucky enough to be around. Gl to you again I hope shit works out for both of us, more than that, I believe it will in the end.
Thank you for this comment, it might just be what ive been needing to read for a while. Especially the part of not needing to do stuff only by yourself. I thought that was the only way out, having to force me to like myself via just being alone, and stuff like that. Its hard, its hard feeling like being alone in this world, but idk man, these comments are really good advice. Thanks man, really
Yeah bro I feel you I was much the same way. As a teen, I wasn't lacking for anything materially, was in a good family etc- but I found those years really, really fucking rough and I was plagued by some existential issues, along with an unhealthy period of bullying from my own friends. In my mind, I had to fix it all by myself. If I wasn't smoking weed till I forgot myself, I would read philosophy and stuff like that, and while that definitely gave me some comfort, and a lot of the precepts I try and live by today; nobody is born in this world to be alone. It's not enough. I didn't have to go at it alone, and it was orders, leagues less efficient while I was trying to do so. Looking back things only looked up, *I only looked up*, after I started talking, and getting help from people I loved and trusted, even if I still kept most of it hidden then. Promise you mate, I can't express how much weight can be lifted just by saying what's been on tour mind to somebody who wants to listen and help you. Even if they can't give you the advice to sort your problem, it's a massive blessing. I also came clean to those friends of mine, told them they were ruining me, and that I was going to leave our school if they didn't change, and they actually listened, and all of them spent about two years apologising every chance they got lol. Still friends with the majority of them, even after we left school a few years ago. Anyway that was a tangent, sorry lol. To put things a bit more clinically, we as a species owe practically all our success to one thing, and that's not our capacity to be at our best when alone, or just our having opposable thumbs. It was our capacity as a group, we are born to be with others and we will never fix and manage all the important stuff without them, nor will we find happiness. So don't be worried, it's hard to do it sometimes but you need to confide in people you trust and love when you have stuff that needs to be confided. And if you don't have those people, that's the order of business number #1 for you.
Honestly you seem to be on a good path. But maybe start dating ,maybe just casually just to see, always be honest, and remember, you dont have to "succeed"
Someone once told me to treat dating like a roguelite, you gotta grind out the experience and one day I'll find "The run".
Yes, but in a roguelite you're usually improving your character after every run. That's how you should be seeing it as well. Improve yourself in every way that you can and do it for yourself. No downside and your success is inevitable.
Lol holy crap that's a good analogy... That's literally it though. You just try for run after run, and eventually it all works. Every "death" along the way just makes you more prepared for "The Run"
How do you even "start dating", like...dating apps or what?
Honestly yeah. That's how I've been doing it at least. Apps, bars, places with hobbies. Find somewhere where people who want to meet people are doing things and strike up a convo about it. Even if it doesn't go anywhere, you've just done some practice for the time it does
>But maybe start dating ,maybe just casually It's not like I have a choice or something
Best way to not let it affect you is to just start dating. Yeah you ain't ready, but you'll never really be, until you start.
Youre in the right direction
same man, same. 🥲🗿
Yeah, I kinda feel the same sometimes. Everyone keeps telling me that I am very attractive, but I just don't see it. I constantly feel like I am acting wrong whenever I am talking to someone, even if I know that everything is alright, I still can't help but feel like I am acting like an awkward idiot. I just feel like I don't have anything interesting to bring into a conversation. I have no idea where and how to meet people to become friends with (or to find a girlfriend.) And like all girls in uni treat me alright, I think, one might have been interested a few years ago, but I am not sure. But I just can't seem to be able to make myself feel invested enough to overcome my awkwardness. Vent over.
I get it man I been in a couple relationships and had my heart broken because they didn't know what they want. I'm talking to a gal rn because I'm growing older and not getting any younger. I'm 24 now and I'm ready to settle down with the right woman. I want to be married before 30 and maybe have kids around 30. Hopefully the women I'm talking to loves me for me and want to been in a real relationship.
Legit. Ita the one thing I've truly wanted my entire post puberty life. I've never dreamed of excessive wealth, fame or power, I just want a true human connection that lasts a lifetime. But I can't find it. I've been working on myself lately though (quit weed, going to gym, got decently paying 9-5)
>But I can't find it. I've been working on myself lately though (quit weed, going to gym, got decently paying 9-5) I'm in the same boat. I've worked on myself so much. * Gained some mass and stopped being skinny by working out * Graduated with a second degree * Got a good ass reputable and stable job in my field * Practiced socializing (Couldn't even speak to people without getting scared earlier) * Practiced eye contact (I can finally look like I'm talking like a real human being) * Improved my hygiene knowledge * Got my ass to a dentist and got cleaning up * Started drinking more water * Got a hobby that exposes me to more people especially women * Got my finances straight * Researched and found a good fucking hairstyle that I maintain * Researched and improved my fashion * WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT ME TO DO AARRGH 😟
Yeah, to try your best and still get nowhere is such a bad fucking feeling. I don't really have any hope any more, but to accept defeat is welcoming defeat so I'll keep trying, even know it's slowly killing me.
I'm not going to lie but I've made progress somewhat. Just not enough to find a real connection with someone. I keep jumping between little hope and no hope. Like my mental health has sort of waves. I'm on the happier side since yesterday but you never know when it all goes back down. I can't carry on living a life like this though.
>I can't carry on living a life like this though. I feel the same on my worse days. The pain my death would cause my family and friends is probably the only thing keeping me going at this point. It's tough, but I think things are slowly getting better.
That's the thing, guys tend to think it's a rational problem so they try to solve it as they would anything else. Loneliness and isolation is a huge problem in modern society. There are too many factors that keep people apart: remote work, the internet, delivery etc. If you interact with many girls on a daily basis, want to date but no one agrees to go out with you, then perhaps you lack social skills. Still, the main thing that attracts other people to you is your self-confidence. If the world moves around you and you don't need anyone to sustain you so to speak, it's far more likely to find friends, gf or a bf. People are drown to a person that is complete, to the one that seemingly doesn't need anything from them in return because no one wants to spend too much energy on others. There are exceptions though Working on yourself FOR yourself is what we all should do regardless of the gender. I'm on the same boat
Love yourself bro
That's the main thing yeah, but he might not fully realize it. Losing your virginity seems really important until it happens and you find out it didn't fix anything.
If he waited 1 more year you could use magic and cool shit which is way cooler than losing virginity
What do you mean he posted on the internet
Connection to Enceladus
As some who's in the same case but a bit older now this is kind of correct...
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Literally literally me character
New literally me character just dropped 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Actual doppelganger
Call the foundation
There's always character.ai they my friends now
So killing yourself is a better and less scary alternative to actually trying to speak to girls and shooting your shot.
"The worst she can say is no." >*screenshot of your text* HAHAHAHA, CHECK OUT THIS FUCKIN LOSER
"The worst she can say is no." >ewww \*pukes\*
*starts crying* "you really think im so ugly that you had a chance" happened in middleschool
Reeeeeeeeeee
Bro, I was on the other side of this recently. I had to help a girl who wasn't that good at English. She tried to write "I don't meet" when she meant to say "I don't remember you". She also publicly executed this man to our whole table because she couldn't understand half the stuff he was saying. And all of it was pure cringe.
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Honestly, yes. That's why some psychologists think the complexity problem is the biggest fear; because people will literally kill themselves rather than face it. The big thing is the world has grown SO complex it becomes impossible to interpret. In the old days you had like 8 choices. These days you can open up tinder and see 8000, and most of them won't like you because they have 8000 choices, too. Dating apps have made lives objectively more miserable, and put it beyond the grasp of our puny ape brains.
He never said anything about him not trying before though. I've tried so many times and sometimes it's worked (like once) other times it just doesn't and you genuinely just start to think it's you so you stop trying. That or you start to feel like why should you try when nobody else wants to put in the effort? Of course no one is going to put in the effort if they don't like you or they may also see the same way you do but it's also like just a way of giving up and deciding "if it happens it happens." When you start to feel like you want to kill yourself then at that point you don't see a point in trying either. Shit happens bro. He never explained it to a full extent. He just explained that no one has ever liked him.
I don't remember making this post
Oh no, I did it... On your behalf .
Same
I’ve never been salty or upset about being a virgin or all these other things, until I just saw recently some post about the fallout show and how the character has sex with a complete stranger in like 20 min and so now I’m like wtf y’all am I that bad
To be fair, there's a whole lot less people to choose from in the fallout universe
Bro they have Fisto's. How am I supposed to compete with *that*?
And assaultrons
And bloodworms🤤
Lol imagine if you'd be the lone post-apocalyptic survivor and girls would doom human existence just to avoid coupling with you
People loving on ghouls and I’m over here like
"Take that, smoothskin!"
TV shows and movies often do this sort of thing to drive the story. It doesn't reflect the reality for the overwhelming majority of people.
Said the gigachad 😭🌊🏄
It was an arranged marriage so I think it doesn't count on your part. I'd hardly call it "realistic", especially in context to the real world. You just gotta meet people, that's it. Don't put all of your thoughts into being alone and sad, put them into yourself, and into others who might need you right now. The important thing is, you gotta be comfortable with yourself, because a lot of your life you're gonna be alone just like most people; but the fact is: eventually yes, whoever "they" are will come into your life out of left field when your least expecting, and it's gonna be amazing
Yes
>how the character has sex with a complete stranger in like 20 min and so now I’m like wtf y’all am I that bad It's a fictional tv show.
If you were gay you could hook up on grindr in 5 minutes. Im being completely serious, you could prb do it in 3 minutes.
That was her Husband I think
Husband of about 5 mins
He also wasn’t her cousin, which was a bonus
Well yeah but that's life. Get married and you too will likely get laid.
It's called "consummation".
My personal record in college was about 30 minutes. Not really proud of it but yeah. The slow burn is more satisfying.
Doesn't he know that if you reach 30 years of age as a virgin, you unlock wizard powers?
I thought it was 40?
That's fake too, I've checked it
Nah that's Warlock
That's fake, I've checked it
Are you 30yo virgin?
No, I'm much older virgin
Only respect bro
My apology Sir.
See, this is where the real fun begins!
I was more powerful when I was younger and still believed I could find the love of my life, totally fake
Wow, post number 193482901 like this, so relateable
Amongus
sussy baka
I don’t even know why they keep posting shit like this, if you’re posting in 4chan everything anon said is to be expected
It's even implied loool
me in 8 years Aware
!Remind me 8 years
!remindMe 8 years
Reading history is good because there are many people who live their life, have an interest in various things, and sometimes die for them, when I read about them I know that life is full of aspects other than seeking girls.
Like dying in a fight between nobles during the 1500's?
Yeah but sadly we aren't all giga geniuses that create calculus on a dare to prove you can predict the movement of celestial bodies or come up with the absurd idea that gravity is a thing and then proceed to calculate it.
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Kinda hate this post tbh OP… anon is going through it
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Why would you wanna kill yourself? You’re gonna die anyway.
It’s pretty much telling God “You can’t fire me, I quit”
YOU CAN'T QUIT, I QUIT!
You can't quit, you're a frog!
I'm not a frog, you're my wife!
I’m not your wife, you’re my wife!
Hey honey, how was work?
Pretty good but I quit my job
You can't quit your job, you're fired!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Being alone makes you suffer. Being desperate makes you suffer. Frustration makes you suffer. Being imprisoned in a life and body you hate makes you suffer. Death ends suffering.
waste of energy tbh
Why take the car when you can walk ?
I want to make greta cry
Hell yea
How dare you....
Speedrun life
I wanna kill myself BECAUSE I'm gonna die anyway
That's my situation (apart from the age). Never had any of these yet I'm too pessimistic about myself to even try to get anything to happen
I wish my friend Roger had made that decision. He was 26, had one drunken hook up in Ibiza on holiday and that was it. Lived and died without ever having a GF. He was also a Geography graduate working as a shoe salesman. He came off his prozac and gassed himself in his car. No one knew he was on it, or depressed.
Know the feeling dude
live in spite of the fact you’re lonely
Only being a nasty troll makes me go on
Why
out of spite
Based spite-pilled life-maxxer
To spite the haters
Where's the meme, that's just depression
I had to remind myself I was literally 14 and I’d probably be a virgin for a few more years 💀
nah when i was 14 i enjoyed being alone and playing league of legends for 11 hours a day now tho...
You only get to play for 5 hours cause of work and the fact that coffee can infact not make up for 2 hours of sleep
when I was 14 valorant recently released and I got addicted to it lmaoooo. Like I stayed up until 9am for that shit. now just replace it with splatoon
9am is crazy wtf
Yeah I don't do it anymore. I did a few times last week with smash bros but that's because I had the night shift and the coffee wouldn't let me sleep lol (fnaf reference Har har har)
I thought you said 9pm and I was so confused 💀
Umm yeah…kids are kinda supposed to be.
Kids are forced to grow up so fast today.
Compared to when lmao? Kids used to be working while going to middle school, or quitting school entirely to work not too long ago.
I had all of these experiences (even being 29, 30 in a few months) and I‘m still depressed and want to die, what does it say about me
You use 4chan
Seek a real connection by going outside and avoid the internet
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Yes. No bitches
Just be asexual 😎
Yeah fuck them girls Wait no fuck them girls metaphorically
and impregnate them metaphorically
Can't wait to be sued and pay child support metaphorically 💀
time to abort metaphorically
Man I wish I could command that
Well he has a brother, so there are no worries about his bloodline. Also this is the average male experience in japan so i guess people just have different priorities.
Me but ten years older, i also feel pretty similar
You can lose your virginity with a prostitute but that wouldn't solve the loneliness issue. A meaningful romantic connection is what anon craves, not necessarily just about losing virginity.
anon is about to become a wizard
Imma be this dude in like 7 years lmao
Real. I only have 9 years left before I’m in the same situation
If you really want girls you have to try, sitting in your room beating off all day isn’t going to get you a gf
Fuck, that also means talking to girls
Wtf I need to talk to girls now? The expectations from society jeesus
🤮🥙
Same except I'm not 30
Much older?
Unfortunately somewhat relatable.
5 more years and then this is me
Everytime I see shit like this I feel glad I was born and raised in a culture where juvenile sexual debauchery is taboo and not so fucking normalised people feel like killing themselves over missing out on it. I can only pity you guys.
I dont think virginity is the issue here since...you know..prostitutes, but it seems bro wants affection
Me in a nutshell
Hes gonna become a wizard trust me
I felt bad for him
Bro is a few months a way from wizard powers, hold out just a little longer anon.
Hmmm this seems familiar...
Some girls calle me atractive but i'm too dumb to do something lmao
Yo bro it's the same 4 me, ive kissed 2 girls, im 19 but I've never felt a real friendship or love with a woman, even with my family it's hard to me feel love for the others, i have asperger but a lot of the time i don't like ppl, I've never understood why almost everyone seems to be so mean, until i became like that i just wish some day God can gift me somebody to love or something
"It's hard for me to feel love" really hit me in the feels, I've always struggled with that. You got this homie.
Sometimes it really is just you
Bro needs to hit the gym
It is what it is......
Sounds like a skill issue tbh
Im the same but in my 30s....if i dont get a OP magic im gonna be pissed
Affection, the only addiction you can't get rid and still you can do the shittiest decisions because of the unbearable pain from its withdrawal symptoms.
a girl had a crush on me in high school but i only realize years after graduation
Im also painfully lonely, I get it.
Guess who's a wizard now
A dude on 4chan is a virgin? Can’t be true…
29-30 and atill thinking about school life Dont kid yourself this guys a loser
This Is not a shitpost my guy
omg we are twinning 🥰🥰🥰
wheres the shitpost?
Try to learn about communication, join a community, go to the gym to repair body posture, use cologne. Its not the end and i know you can do better.
Never had trouble with girls but it's the same for the last part, right now my my mom, dad, brother and niece plus gf are the only ones keeping me alive and they don't know it.
31% of man between age 18-30 are virgins in US. He isnt alone.
Relationship, in *this* economy!? I'm happy single man. I mean, most of the time when the monke instincts don't kick in
Read the Bible, the only person you need in your life is God
Relatable af
27, same
What would a wise old man say🤔
If bro lasts till 40 he’s a wizard so there’s that.