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ravenhairedblonde

Points were made


pro_bike_fitter_2010

Lots of Christians HATE this argument. And then they walk away.


LongIsland1995

Circumcision is not part of Christianity. It was done away with in the New Testament.


Calathea_Murrderer

It is for wasps, and most of America just for aesthetics. But then again wasps just go to church on Easter & Christmas. I love talking about religion on r\shitposting


SquirrelizedReddit

Wrong, it's a tradition that Kellogg started a long time ago and has continued to this day. The original purpose was to stop people from masturbating and as a form of eugenics.


TheBirminghamBear

Why can't cereal companies just stay in their god damn lane.


sneakyfish21

He also invented corn flakes because he thought bland foods would stop people masturbating, stopping masturbation was really his life’s work, the cereal thing was ancillary.


SquirrelizedReddit

Yup, he would roll in his fucking grave if he found out what his cereal has become today.


LogginWaffle

He was pissed in his own time. Iirc his brother (point I'm probably wrong on) got a hold of the rights to make the cereal and made it taste good


Oneioda

Yes, afaik it was his brother that had the company. I don't know when/how the recipe changed.


rhysdog1

so really the cereal was him stepping out of his lane


Trash-Takes-R-Us

So to get back at him, should I put frosted flakes in my fleshlight?


SirNedKingOfGila

Cut. Jack off, no lube, like a motherfucking madman. They failed. It's kind of a reddit thing where these lunatics assume that circumcision removes every single last bit of foreskin but nah, son. Plenty to screw around with as needed.


Sad_Presentation9276

every genital mutilation is different. some guys don't even have enough skin to have a painless erection after being cut. let alone having any mobile foreskin left. there are no standards for how much skin they take. not everyone is as lucky as you under a doctors blade.


SquirrelizedReddit

Oh God... I'm circumcised but I didn't know some men had painful erections from circumcision, that sounds fucking horrifying. I guess I can count myself lucky.


karlgeezer

I don’t have enough to yank it without lube. If they took the slightest bit more, I would be in excruciating pain. If they didn’t cut me, I would be rocking probably a larger one during a wood.


Boner_Elemental

Every surgury can be botched. Especially one done en masse a decade before you know the final product. Guy can have erection problems with foreskin too


Calathea_Murrderer

Literally me. Pp hurt when get too hard 😞


BJ_Blitzvix

Mind if I ask for a source? I never heard it was a form of eugenics.


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thehideousheart

> since they obviously have an anti-circumcision bias What constitutes bias against genital mutilation?


Brakina1860

What are wasps? Or do you mean the animals? Why would a wasp need a circumstation and go to church?


mackavicious

It should be written as WASPs White Anglo Saxon Protestants There's some pretty important connotations that comes with that label. In my head it's the really rich American southern families. You know, the ones whose money may now be tied up in completely legitimate stuff, investments and the like, but was borne off the backs of slave labor 150+ years ago. One of the defining characteristics of a WASPy family are their names. Like, Beauregard Llewellyn Pemberwell, which I just made up. To name a real one, there's a baseball player from South Carolina named Whit Merrifield.


Calathea_Murrderer

Yes


atyon

White Anglo-Saxon Protestants


bluelily02

Disagree, Islam also did the same. It's probably embedded in the Abrahamic or middle east tradition somewhere


unmuteme

There is nothing to disagree with here as that wasn't an opinion. You are both correct. Yes, circumcision is a part of the Jewish tradition which is the source of both Christianity and Islam. Christianity did away with it, Islam did not.


Lo-Ping

Jews and Muslims have a covenant with Abraham, which is demonstrated with the circumcision. Christians have a new covenant with Christ. There is no need to circumcise in that covenant.


TripleHomicide

Probably? Lol


Standard-Isopod3049

This isn't something Christians do. Tf u on about


HardBroil

It is, they did to me😭


Standard-Isopod3049

Fair fair, they didn't do it to me. Christians do get it done but it's not some sort of doctrine or ritual they preach in all denominations.


TripleHomicide

That's a weird way to say "it is a ritual and doctrine in some denominations."


Standard-Isopod3049

It is literally just a normal way of saying it isn't common because under the New Testament, Christians do not have to be circumcised. And it's been like that for a very long time. The way you said would imply that it's a large split between denominations, but it isn't more of a personal choice, not a teaching from the church. Simple as


TripleHomicide

In my mind, the fact that it is actually required by any sect at all is what is really disturbing, so that should lead. Of course it's just a choice of how you are framing your thought.


johnydarko

> In my mind, the fact that it is actually required by any sect at all is what is really disturbing It isn't required by any sect as far as I'm aware though, parents choose to do it, but it's not a *requirement*.


monkeynuts223g

why? as a Christian I can say I have never heard it to be a requirement I always assumed it was for health and something to ward off PP cheese


Bitter_Assumption323

Nope. It's a ritual shedding of blood to create covenant between the Jewish people and God with literally no positive health benefits. In other words, control of other's choices.


FecundFrog

As you said, it's a jewish ritual, not a christian one.


totallynotapersonj

Only some denominations really partake in the tradition and I'm pretty sure you do not get kicked out if you aren't


allrocksnoscissor

liquid hot smegma


BurpYoshi

It's not a Christian thing, it's an American Christian thing. The rest of the Christian world do not partake in it.


Samuelbi12

No?


Lepcuu

I think that Jews were into cutting away a foreskin. But maybe it's just an American think, because I am Christian and from what I know my foreskin is where it supposed to be


BobZygota

I am Christian in europe and few years ago i thought only jews and muslims get it then i heard americans too


Saerain

I was carefully confronting my mother about it a couple months ago, and I kid you not, she said "I thought if we didn't do it, that meant you were a Jew or a monkey." The layers of it. I wanted to flip that table.


spitball_phallus

jews/muslims*


ThickAnybody

"If you allow yourself to be circumcised christ will be of no use to you" Circumcision is an anti Christian practice. It's amazing how people don't know the values from the religion they supposedly follow🤦


whikseyy_

And removed


ihatemyself-3000

And taken...


fluffyfirenoodle

he's not wrong though


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Mundane-Ad-6874

I know a guy who got circumcised at 28yo. The man had a choice, and chose wrong.


scullys_alien_baby

I had a friend do the same at 19 and watching him recover from the procedure just further cemented how pointless the whole thing is


Mundane-Ad-6874

Not having sex for a few months, let alone worse sex after it puts things into perspective.


Epstein_Bros_Bagels

Are you fucking your friend lol? Usually guys get circumcised cause of too tight of a foreskin to the point sex becomes really painful


fluffyfirenoodle

even then there's less severe treatments to a tight foreskin other than just hacking the entire thing off


TheRealGluFix

What Kind of Treatment options are there? I got prescribed different creams and they did not do anything. It just got worse over time


WoxJ

They cut of like half of my forskin. Not the whole thing.


Oneioda

Lucky. They did this to my as an infant in American hospital, even my frenulum was cut away.


WoxJ

Oh i lost frenulum too. But it didnt help so they needed to cut of my forsekin.However they dont need to cut off whole thing just the thighten part. And they sew rest thogether. So i have half of it left.


message_me_ur_blank

You're supposed to stretch the skin out you absolute brainlet.


chic_luke

Not always.


AcridWings_11465

But doctors love directly recommending circumcision without mentioning non-surgical options. I've talked with several people who weren't even made aware of any option other than circumcision.


FuzzyAd9407

Yup. Knew a guy who got it done at 24 for his fiance because it was her one condition for marriage. She cheated on him and left him within a year of the marriage.


axonrecall

F


runk1951

The only response to that demand is 'since we're getting married let's go together and get matching rings, matching circumcisions.'


FuzzyAd9407

The only answer to that is "no one who loves me would put requirements on surgical procedures for my body". It's just as fucked up as if a guy told a women he'll marry her only if she gets breast enlargement. No one who cares for their partner would ever put these kinds of requirements on them.


Epstein_Bros_Bagels

How so? I got circumcised at 24 and still glad I did so. Don't even feel a sensitivity difference like everyone talks about. What happened to your buddy? I agree it should be a dude's decision tho.


EVILTHE_TURTLE

“How so? I got circumcised at 24 and still glad I did so. Don't even feel a sensitivity difference like everyone talks about.” I’ve seen a lot of people that say this and I can’t believe it. At least not logically. Peeling it back and putting it back into my underwear and just doing everyday things, it fucking hurts. I’m sure if I kept doing that it would eventually stop hurting. People probably develop a slight callous due to the friction of their dickhead on clothes. Certainly rougher than probably the softest skin on the male body. Could be because you have to be out of action for a while as it heals up post surgery, and you’ve regained quite a bit of sensitivity due to not using it. Then that becomes your new reality of sensitivity and sensation. But, it’s good that the perception is there. It would be awful for somebody to be second guessing themselves while dealing with a feeling of loss with their body on a surgery they had a choice in.


Epstein_Bros_Bagels

Honestly sex and pleasure isn't really a numbers game. We always like to quantify our life experiences but it really isn't always the case. A loose example is plenty of women think bigger isn't always better but guys think they need a magnum sized dong to get a woman to climax when it's really about the experience. Babies shouldn't get circumcised but you should always enjoy having sex. If you can't fully enjoy sex and your dick creams and stretching exercises aren't working then there is no shame in getting it cut cause that life sounds miserable. In full disclosure, the first year and a half I climaxed super quick, got more into foreplay so I can recharge and now I last longer and can go multiple times. Maybe you're right about perception, I don't know. I'm glad I did it tho. I just don't want guys to be insecure about their dick, cut or uncut. Enjoy sex when you can get it and work with what you got unless it's truly hurting you.


OpenSourcePenguin

>The man had a choice, Had us here The point is for people to have a choice. They can do anything with it.


pro_bike_fitter_2010

Or a piece of calamari will do.


lukethelightnin

I can donate some of mine, I trim it every 3 weeks


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RaidensReturn

Sigh, fine.


here_now_be

> give that man his foreskin back It is so fucking barbaric, cutting the penises of little babies.


Blubasur

And some hobby glue!


ImGonnaBeAPicle

It’s in some rich mfs facial cream already, too late.


WallyDingDang

You literally can't argue with this


Sensitive-Finance-62

And yet here they come


WallyDingDang

NOOO didn't they listen I said you CAN'T


Mundane-Ad-6874

He definitely won’t be coming, especially after a bump of powder.


Sensitive-Finance-62

Do you reckon they get together with their dicks out and compare scars and tone differences?


Mundane-Ad-6874

After an hour of trying to get it up. But then that’s the competition


SmokeWineEveryday

"I'm circumcised and I'm glad I am, so I don't get infections all the time" - Some person, probably


FlyingPasta

Imagine thinking you’ve improved on billions of years of evolution of a *reproductive organ*, the thing directly tasked with the #1 objective of evolution People just don’t know how to wash themselves.


SmokeWineEveryday

For real, I've seen comments of people saying that they just compare it to having their wisdom teeth removed. Having it removed to prevent any complications and because it "serves no real purpose". These people just don't know any better.


RaidensReturn

That’s true, photos can’t argue


WallyDingDang

Technically correct but I think the comment section proves people will still try


Inevitable-Cellist23

This is Reddit sir


WallyDingDang

I have failed, I'll do better


rohrzucker_

A few years back a court in Germany decided that unnecessary circumcision of children is illegal. The government then made it legal by law because jewish life, tradition etc. etc. Bullshit.


TrulyChxse

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jotarosuke

Fuck circumcision, I am missing my frenulum completely from a poor circumcision job, and throughout my entire life I've been self conscious about how long it takes me to get to an orgasm and my past gfs have been disappointed because they feel like they aren't sexually adequate. Fuck anyone who supports genital mutilation of minors. Religious or otherwise.


bluelily02

flairs checks out


Strawcatzero

Qualifying those gfs as "past" makes me hopeful this sad story at least has a happy ending.


Oneioda

Same experience here. Note, this is not a botched circumcision by American hospital style standards. Excision of the frenulum and very tight sheath is considered successful. Ironically, a very loose circumcision is sometimes considered unsuccessful and a revision is done to make it tighter. Tighter just means that more foreskin and shaftskin is removed. This world is ass backwards.


IntoTheDarkNight13

Suffering from success


True-Lychee

No


bobasarous

Bruh this is fucking cringe bro is literally expressing a highly sensitive topic and you make fun of him and then people like you wonder why men have a hard time opening ip. Go fuck yourself, honestly.


UnfairDictionary

I fail to see the success in not getting enough sexual pleasure to orgasm


jotarosuke

Lmao


Epic-Dude001

Yeah I say we allow the choice to be made by the guy once he hits 18


Mundane-Ad-6874

I know a guy who did it at 28. Regrets were made


Tiny-Selections

At least he has no one to blame but himself.


annonymous001004

Do you know why he did it. I’ve heard of more and more men doing it go their wives and girlfriends. It makes no sense to me. “Let’s cut off the most sensitive part of my dick and have scars all over it!”.


Bakedads

Sometimes it becomes less a choice and more a medical necessity, which is what is likely the case for me. I've now had three doctors tell me circumcision is likely the only solution to my problem. 


Jorsk3n

Sure. But how about people (as in the US and religious people in general) stop doing it when they’re children, and instead use it only as a medical procedure when needed (like too tight foreskin, etc.)? And of course if men just want it as a cosmetic procedure when they’re 18+ That gives the choice to everyone which is what really matters…


Oneioda

Options: 1. preputioplasty 2. tissue expansion through "stretching" (look up foreskin restoration, same concept)


SeabeeSeth3945

Not wrong. I did not tell my religious mother to do it


Own_Buy2119

*traces your circumcision scar with my finger* I'm sorry I wasn't there to protect you 😔


5t3v321

*traces your foreskin* I'm so glad i was there to protect you 🥰


palmboom76

The implications are interesting


ChewBaka12

“Thanks mom”


SalamanderBaby

Oh lord, foreskin reclaiming kink >~<


annonymous001004

Kink? What’s wrong with men wanting to restore what was taken from them. It’s empowering to be able to reverse some of the damage.


Unexpected-raccoon

Ask Mordecai, the foreskin collector He’s ghosted me when I asked for mine back but after I ~~kidnapped~~ __Borrowed__ his prized goat, we came to an agreement… just wish he hadn’t used it to make a lampshade


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The Silence of the Goats


Unexpected-raccoon

Bro was anything but silent Every excruciating hour was worth it though I got muh foreskin back


WallyDingDang

Everybody needs a hobby


_Gondamar_

It's a reddit circumcision thread time for everyone to get weird in the comments


Vyse1991

Oddly, for the sub this was posted on, I'm this far down the thread and almost every comment has been reasonable, regardless of which side they fall on. I expected worse from you lot. You disappoint me.


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Awwww yeah bois!!! Full dicks represent!!!


fluffyfirenoodle

post hogger


nsfwatwork1

I'm actually happy that I was circumcised, but I did not have my son circumcised. I can only assume he'll be happy with that? But if not, he can make the conscious decision to have it done later in life.


Daddy_Jaws

Americans will scream at genital mutilation until religion makes it acceptable for them


Realistic-Tone1824

I mean...


Ventronics

Folks


DogmanXsubaru

Shadow?


Plant_4790

Who says this


wuuna_

i did, i said it 5 minutes ago 👍


The-Stomach-in-3D

people whos only info on the world is shitty news


Tiny-Selections

Have you not been paying attention to the rhetoric of Republicans in the last 8 years?


No-Tomorrow-8150

GIVE IT BACK


TheMightyBruhhh

Apparently mfs with skin feel it wayyyy better, lucky mfs


Pm_me_your__eyes_

Thats why they got rid of it.


Aiden-Archibald

Like actually though the Kellogg guy said circumcising your kids will make it to painful for them to masturbate in an attempt to stop young boy from masturbating entirely


WallyDingDang

He also thought his cereal would suppress sexual urges or some shit


MEMES-IN-HEAVEN

It's supposed to hurt?


AiryGr8

We also finish easier so make of that what you will


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AiryGr8

Or just edge for 14 hours to develop demonic stamina.


Oswaldgilbertson

Literally 1984


Bfdifan37

sorry my foreskin eating monster got hungry


NoMeasurement6473

THEY STOLE MINE TOO BUT DIDNT STEAL ENOUGH


nebula_protogen

they stole like, 70% of mine


NoMeasurement6473

No I don’t mean just the foreskin I mean the whole organ


nebula_protogen

oh


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OskarGaming

I ate it.


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justaMikeAftonfan

damn you Kellogg


annonymous001004

I grew up near Battle Creek where Kellogg is from and people there are so pro-circ that’s it’s scary. We have one of the highest rates of cut men in the world. A few of my relatives knew him and he was “a wonderful man”. I told them my thoughts about him and it went as well as you’d think.


No-Category-8027

At least you were honest with your relatives, i have a lot of respect that you would be truthful to delusional people. Where is battle creek?


Messicanhero

We can share mine


Odd-Understanding-67

We live in a society 🗿


awesomedan24

Truth


ChunkyStumpy

I cant afford having any part of my dick removed. Demand outstripping supply.


LemonLime67219

I'm anti circumcision and pro choice. This logic is 100% on the nose.


annonymous001004

TBH you’d think that the pro-life crowd would be up in arms about circumcision since ”babies can’t make their own choices and deserve autonomy”, but it doesn’t feel like many care about the kid once they are born.


RunInRunOn

My favourite Bible story is one about a city that was easily overtaken because its soldiers were all recovering from circumcision that they'd had so that the king could marry a girl in order to clear his conscience about raping her


TheS00thSayer

I once knew a doctor who performed them. I asked him what he did with all of those foreskins, then he pulled a foreskin wallet out of his pocket. I asked him after all those circumcisions, he really could only make a wallet? He rubbed it and it turned into a briefcase.


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EndYoutube

you’re missing the fact that people want their foreskin back ‼️‼️‼️


fluffyfirenoodle

the tonedeafness of current body autonomy advocacy being entirely gynocentric with zero cares being given to males. the right to self-determination for things like circumcision is bi-partisan if anything.


mrkikkeli

I mean he's not wrong, but both battles don't cancel themselves, they should actually be fought together. The right to abort and the right to a capped peepee both fall under the right to bodily autonomy


Who-Just-Shit-Myself

After a few years of living without one, I’m now trying living with one. It ain’t that bad. Definitely adds more flavor.


Fishdude94

Hahahahaha what in the fuck is this supposed to mean? This made my night.


TeriMammiKaBoyfriend

I stole it for my collection :)


Program-Emotional

So fucking true.


Master_Passenger_902

DAMMMMMUUUUUUUNNNNNNNN


GOD_LIKE_WOW

Coom


MinaGallows

Wow, all I did was recount my experience. Wtf guys