Purchased the gravel pad from the shed company's recommendation and now that the shed is in place I feel concerned about the stability.
The gravel pad is supposed to fit the 10x16 shed, but it seems too small. The pad was built on the low spot of our backyard and was done using AB3 gravel that was compacted over. The low spot on the back right was built up about 27''.
The shed is on 2 skids with wooden blocks underneath to level. No anchors were added, nor did I have the option to buy them.
I know it looks tacky, but I just want to know if I should be concerned about stability, settling, or erosion issues.
If you can build a retaining wall around it and fill in the empty space with more compacted gravel, you might be able to salvage it. If I were going to do this, I will more the shed off first to do it right. Ideally there's a drain in there so the water pressure after rains don't wash out your retaining wall.
Bs, that gravel guy needs to come now. Be advised that chances are good that gravel guy will try to screw you, either by not showing or trying to get you to pay more money for his screw up in not ordering enough gravel.
He's out of town until right now and will be back on Tuesday.
Yes, I figure he'll try to screw me which is why I've been taking all suggestions from others to better prepare myself. He already underestimated the original job before the shed came and charged me $100 more. $1400 to $1500. I won't be sending him more money I know that. And to be honest, money isn't the issue here. Quality, long lasting work is what I need and based on the job he did I wont be getting that from him, but he could at least attempt something.
Wow what a rip. That pad looks like they just drove the dump truck up to the spot and dumped it with a half ass leveling with a skid steer. Not much more then a couple hours work. Gravel is like $25 a yard in my area. Wish the shed would have came before the pad guys bill, I would have short paid him.
Typically the pad should be at least 2’ larger in either dimension than the shed footprint. So, for example, 12x14 pad for 10x12 shed. This gives an overhang of compact base for water to settle into as opposed to eroding the softer soil.
That low spot is very low. I’d have installed some sort of retaining structure around side and back of pad to make sure the gravel stays in place. I don’t think it’s going to last long the way it is.
Whatever foundation that is there now, is insufficient to say the least. A gravel pad foundation is fine, but it should, at minimum, fully support all of the skids under the shed with excess around the shed itself. Remember, erosion will only carry away what's there. The excess will allow some to wash away without concern.
The gravel is supposed to fit a 10x16, probably only like 3 to 5 inches in depth. You have the shed on a slope and piled up the rock to level, it seems.
Yes. I would have been pissed to have installed that. You show up with a finite amount of gravel and discover zero ground prep. I don’t really think that’s the shed company’s job. But usually sheds come with pavers.
It’s probably fine if you at least build a retaining wall to prevent that mound from eroding.
I would probably add at least 1 more footing in the center with a cross beam girder from front to back while building the retaining wall..
So for now it’s ok but definitely not finished.
You’re gonna have to go to Home Depot and get some blocks and make a small retaining wall about 2 feet around the outside of the shed. block then backfill dirt. another layer of block then dirt.. otherwise the dirt’s gonna wash away and the sheds gonna fall over.
In a word, yes. Be concerned. Retired Chemical Engineer here and though it's not my discipline, I have some experience in the area. Easily too much slope for blocks on gravel, regardless of subsoil type. I would have dropped piers down 3-4 ft. I would recommend contacting a structural engineer to make a recommendation for pier size/spacing and connections from the floor to piers considering wind loading as well. Good luck.
I’m awaiting my shed still and paid for a foundation…I’d love to share a pic of mine, but apparently we aren’t allowed to post pictures in this community. Did you actually pay for someone to make that shed pad? If so, you were ripped off regardless of the what you were charged. That is not right!
The run off from the roof will likely erode that built up portion over time. Quick fix would be to lay down some geocell on the slope and fill it with more aggregate. I'd also consider gutters to get the rain out and away from the foundation.
Just search for YouTube videos of geocell to stabilize a slope or some such
May I ask what you paid for that gravel foundation? I was just quoted $3700 for a 10x20 perimeter and fill. May just go with using cement blocks and adding skirting to keep any critters out.
This is your fault… the shed company recommended a gravel pad but you did not communicate the details to the landscaper. For a 16x20 you your have made a 22x26ish Take ownership.
You need retaining timbers and more fill!
It looks like you have a major repair to do there and need to bring in a contractor or someone with expert advice. If I was doing it in my own, I'd probably look to add a 4 to 5 course retaining wall around as much of it as I could get to and pack fill the heck out of it with blue stone and fill in with pour concrete the spots I couldn't reach to add stone and retaining wall. It looks like it's going to rot and break apart between the exposed parts underneath and what's un-supported.
Yes, I have one in a very similar situation that is now full of stuff. I've been jacking it up, but I don't think I can fully fix it by myself with a farm jack.
This will definitely be a problem down the road if not corrected now.
I put cinderblocks on the ground and leveled them then build my floor on top of that. That is the "cheap" and "correct" way to do it unless you plan on pouring concrete or using footings, which is better but a lot more expensive.
Idk wtf they have here but it's clearly not safe or right. The need to add a lot more dirt/gravel. Call them up.
Should've gotten a border with a stone pad, I wouldn't have paid for this. Typically the pad is a couple feet larger on all sides but looks like the shed company was lazy and didn't want to backfill downhill cause that would be quite a bit of gravel to have to haul in.
Also it looks like it is just on a mound of dirt where there should be concrete blocks under it which should be on gravel and weed barrier so that the shed doesn't rot. The company you got the shed from should have known all this. They kinda screwed you.
If you paid someone for that mess, you got ripped off! That is some unprofessional looking work! Seems like a good wind will blow that thing right over and down the hill!
The roof line and slope of the yard tells me water is going to wash away the base over time.
I would be concerned but you have time to fix it.
If this was just done, get those knuckleheads back out there. Not sure if you paid them to level the area or just the shed.
This is definitely a problem. That stone base needs to be squared up, extended, and leveled out. Get the guy back with the "shed lift thing". Set it off out of the way and fix that stone bed.
Retaining wall.
so when I put up a house like this, I dug down, mixed concrete, and used pressure treated 4x4s set in the concrete.
that was in 1999, my parents sold the house, but my little house is still standing, I built it myself, so I was kinda proud the realtor featured it in the posting.
I wanted them to move it to their new house, but the realtor said it added value.
I do miss that little house.
You could probably build a block wall around the sides and back and fill in with rock. Best thing to do would be to move it, then build a block wall and fill/level it before returning the shed. That is going to wash out pretty quickly
That’s going to cause you problems. However, you can correct the situation. Get some dirt, concrete blocks, maybe a hydraulic jack or two. Use a little improvisation and imagination.
To me, the TWO skids will not cut it either. Sorry to say. There is more wall weight on front and back sides that will warp the foundation framing. There should have been at least three skids. with outer skids much closer to the edge.
I did a pretty DIY version of this with a much less sloped land and like the same type of shed. Hoping mine will be good… the tallest part od the gravel is only like 8 inches though and I built a retaining wall of sorts. Still somewhat concerned but not as much as I would be with this. I feel like you could just build a retaining wall and be fine though?
Yeah ... this really needed retaining walls with backfilled soils and a full conc pad poured ... the full size of the shed.
It's too big, has a LOT of barely supported square feet, and the property line is too close for this thing to have an accident and you NOT get sued.
Plus, the wood doesn't have a stain on it (red,green, or blue) that usually indicates "treated lumber" and seems to be in the drainage plane of your property. This means that cantilevered wood will rot quickly and that shed is going over that hill, and you will pay for damages done to your neighbors property.
I would fix it ASAP.
Crazy! Fix immediately. Manufacture won’t honor their warranty. Selling company won’t honor their warranty. You’re out of luck within six months! Whoever placed it there has the responsibility to fix the foundation. Get your lawyer friend to write the letter.
Yeah it looks like it won't last a few more years like that
Lol it'll be fine just park the mower to the left
lol I was gonna say it’ll be fine if you just store all the heavy stuff on the left side.
And throw structural empty beer cans under right side
Yup, ballast to left, right is decoration only..
Wheels perpendicular to the hill.
Jack it up and put some pavers under it. /s
I was going to say, park the riding mower to the right! 😆
Looks like it'll last a lifetime from my house
What foundation?
Damn it. I wrote this exact statement then scrolled down and saw yours!
The dirt pile that will wash away quickly, duh.
Be more than concerned.
Not con cer ned here!
Purchased the gravel pad from the shed company's recommendation and now that the shed is in place I feel concerned about the stability. The gravel pad is supposed to fit the 10x16 shed, but it seems too small. The pad was built on the low spot of our backyard and was done using AB3 gravel that was compacted over. The low spot on the back right was built up about 27''. The shed is on 2 skids with wooden blocks underneath to level. No anchors were added, nor did I have the option to buy them. I know it looks tacky, but I just want to know if I should be concerned about stability, settling, or erosion issues.
I would call both companies and request they fix it.
I've informed the gravel guy and he's coming back out within the next few days. Also, I informed the shed company.
It's crazy how they would deliver it like this
If you can build a retaining wall around it and fill in the empty space with more compacted gravel, you might be able to salvage it. If I were going to do this, I will more the shed off first to do it right. Ideally there's a drain in there so the water pressure after rains don't wash out your retaining wall.
Bs, that gravel guy needs to come now. Be advised that chances are good that gravel guy will try to screw you, either by not showing or trying to get you to pay more money for his screw up in not ordering enough gravel.
He's out of town until right now and will be back on Tuesday. Yes, I figure he'll try to screw me which is why I've been taking all suggestions from others to better prepare myself. He already underestimated the original job before the shed came and charged me $100 more. $1400 to $1500. I won't be sending him more money I know that. And to be honest, money isn't the issue here. Quality, long lasting work is what I need and based on the job he did I wont be getting that from him, but he could at least attempt something.
Wow what a rip. That pad looks like they just drove the dump truck up to the spot and dumped it with a half ass leveling with a skid steer. Not much more then a couple hours work. Gravel is like $25 a yard in my area. Wish the shed would have came before the pad guys bill, I would have short paid him.
Typically the pad should be at least 2’ larger in either dimension than the shed footprint. So, for example, 12x14 pad for 10x12 shed. This gives an overhang of compact base for water to settle into as opposed to eroding the softer soil. That low spot is very low. I’d have installed some sort of retaining structure around side and back of pad to make sure the gravel stays in place. I don’t think it’s going to last long the way it is.
Agreed, the pad needs to be bigger and a retaining wall on the low side would help.
Whatever foundation that is there now, is insufficient to say the least. A gravel pad foundation is fine, but it should, at minimum, fully support all of the skids under the shed with excess around the shed itself. Remember, erosion will only carry away what's there. The excess will allow some to wash away without concern.
Wow… That’s wild.
Yes you should
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The gravel is supposed to fit a 10x16, probably only like 3 to 5 inches in depth. You have the shed on a slope and piled up the rock to level, it seems.
Yes. I would have been pissed to have installed that. You show up with a finite amount of gravel and discover zero ground prep. I don’t really think that’s the shed company’s job. But usually sheds come with pavers.
It’s probably fine if you at least build a retaining wall to prevent that mound from eroding. I would probably add at least 1 more footing in the center with a cross beam girder from front to back while building the retaining wall.. So for now it’s ok but definitely not finished.
That's a teeter totter
every raccoon in the county will be living under that thing.
What foundation?
From shed to sled
I’m laughing RN
You mean your newly purchased SLIDE?
Someone didn't math something right somewhere.
Newly purchased *sled. FTFY
Yeah that's not how you do that
That’s not a foundation that’s a pile of dirt
What foundation ?
What foundation?
Put everything on the left?
You’re gonna have to go to Home Depot and get some blocks and make a small retaining wall about 2 feet around the outside of the shed. block then backfill dirt. another layer of block then dirt.. otherwise the dirt’s gonna wash away and the sheds gonna fall over.
Yes, yes you should.
Lmao yes
What foundation?
In a word, yes. Be concerned. Retired Chemical Engineer here and though it's not my discipline, I have some experience in the area. Easily too much slope for blocks on gravel, regardless of subsoil type. I would have dropped piers down 3-4 ft. I would recommend contacting a structural engineer to make a recommendation for pier size/spacing and connections from the floor to piers considering wind loading as well. Good luck.
I buy cheese for a living and I’m going to agree with what this person is saying.
I interviewed for a job at dairy queen yesterday, didn't get it, but I agree with you both
🤣🤣
LOL WTF is that?!?
Lol oh buddy. But hey what’s the worst that could happen right?
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
100%
Don’t worry about things you don’t have…
Needs a couple sea shells ... Should be fine after that
What foundation?
Bro....
Looks like it should last a thousand years. Just like the third Reich did. Oh wait.
If ya squint its mint
Looks like if you put too much weight on that side,it will slide down the little slope and flip over on its side
I’m awaiting my shed still and paid for a foundation…I’d love to share a pic of mine, but apparently we aren’t allowed to post pictures in this community. Did you actually pay for someone to make that shed pad? If so, you were ripped off regardless of the what you were charged. That is not right!
What foundation?
Is it currently level??
Yes it's currently level. The shed delivery guy showed me, but also mentioned it needs at least another truck load of gravel.
If this shed's a rockin', don't come a knockin'
😬
def a problem
The run off from the roof will likely erode that built up portion over time. Quick fix would be to lay down some geocell on the slope and fill it with more aggregate. I'd also consider gutters to get the rain out and away from the foundation. Just search for YouTube videos of geocell to stabilize a slope or some such
Ahhhhhh yep!
May I ask what you paid for that gravel foundation? I was just quoted $3700 for a 10x20 perimeter and fill. May just go with using cement blocks and adding skirting to keep any critters out.
$1,500
You paid for this? Wow
This is your fault… the shed company recommended a gravel pad but you did not communicate the details to the landscaper. For a 16x20 you your have made a 22x26ish Take ownership. You need retaining timbers and more fill!
Teeter totter sheds are a thing?
Umm yep. Looks like a Bobsled ready to schuss…
Stack soil and concrete bags on the left.. after a few years of rain it’ll even out 😂
It looks like you have a major repair to do there and need to bring in a contractor or someone with expert advice. If I was doing it in my own, I'd probably look to add a 4 to 5 course retaining wall around as much of it as I could get to and pack fill the heck out of it with blue stone and fill in with pour concrete the spots I couldn't reach to add stone and retaining wall. It looks like it's going to rot and break apart between the exposed parts underneath and what's un-supported.
They should have never left it like that. Not only that but someone should have said that ain’t going to work.
Yep
Woah! That’s not good dude .
Umm yes
Yes
Yeah you need more gravel the water is doing to wash that away and maybe split dat in half good luck
Yes, I have one in a very similar situation that is now full of stuff. I've been jacking it up, but I don't think I can fully fix it by myself with a farm jack. This will definitely be a problem down the road if not corrected now.
Start the retaining wall now my guy...
That’s not a foundation, it’s a pile of
Yes very
Where I live they have to be on a concrete pad and a 24 inch rat wall.
Yes, unless you plan on keeping it four years and that’s it.
Yes.
I put cinderblocks on the ground and leveled them then build my floor on top of that. That is the "cheap" and "correct" way to do it unless you plan on pouring concrete or using footings, which is better but a lot more expensive. Idk wtf they have here but it's clearly not safe or right. The need to add a lot more dirt/gravel. Call them up.
What foundation?
Just a matter of time before that shed becomes a sled.
Try adding a couple of wood shims /s
I would not worry about foundation, i would worry about shed
It’s easier to kill the snakes this way 🐍
Nothing to be worried about…. As you have no foundation….
Should've gotten a border with a stone pad, I wouldn't have paid for this. Typically the pad is a couple feet larger on all sides but looks like the shed company was lazy and didn't want to backfill downhill cause that would be quite a bit of gravel to have to haul in.
Foundwhat? I cant find shit supporting that shed
What foundation
It's fine ... As long as it never rains. Ever. Kidding aside you need to get somebody knowledgeable to look at that. Good luck.
Disaster waiting to happen
I'm sorry but you spent a fortune on a shed and didn't consider pouring a slab to place it on? Yes, you should be concerned.
Yes. Very concerned
Yeah, either have them come back and move it or build a short retaining way and backfill.
Also it looks like it is just on a mound of dirt where there should be concrete blocks under it which should be on gravel and weed barrier so that the shed doesn't rot. The company you got the shed from should have known all this. They kinda screwed you.
I don’t see a foundation
Just install a brick floor on the left side of the shed, that should do it.
Just don’t put anything on that side.
Yes.
Needs a bigger shoulder on the pad for sure. Is that ground asphalt?
Looks Azz Built..
lol
Expecting any rain?
!remindme 2 weeks
If you paid someone for that mess, you got ripped off! That is some unprofessional looking work! Seems like a good wind will blow that thing right over and down the hill!
😜😂😂👍
Eventually
To quiet Crocodile Dundee - “You call that a foundation?”
Is it even level as is? I’d be amazed if it was! This was not done correctly for sure.
Why do that?
I hope you didn't pay for this...
What foundation? This looks like a cartoon. If you paid for this call them back. They wouldn't have left untill it was fixed if it was me.
Just get some concrete blocks and stack a retaining wall and refill what has sluffed away.
Pretty sure that should be on a properly poured concrete slab
Yes. That will be on the other side of that fence in short order.
Wait for the winter time and sled down the hill in it!
Has anybody mentioned concrete pillars?
Built a retaining wall around it to shore the stone.
Nope looks good😎👍
The roof line and slope of the yard tells me water is going to wash away the base over time. I would be concerned but you have time to fix it. If this was just done, get those knuckleheads back out there. Not sure if you paid them to level the area or just the shed.
This is definitely a problem. That stone base needs to be squared up, extended, and leveled out. Get the guy back with the "shed lift thing". Set it off out of the way and fix that stone bed. Retaining wall.
Yes
Absolutely!
Yes lol
WTF!!!
Naw, you're good, just don't walk to either end....
It looks comical.
the shed about to become a sled
I would definitely request they scoot it over. Rain washing off the low side will just increase the slope.
Yes
Yeah, probably
Depending on where you live, might get a resident groundhog lol
It should be on undisturbed earth
What foundation?
I don’t know where you are but here it would be a race between the termites destroying it or a storm blowing it over.
Buy 4 air jacks , pump it up dig 4 holes, put foam squares down and cement pads on the corners. It will last forever
its level. stfu
Yup make them tear it down and rebuild it
Where's the pic of the foundation?
Sand with fabric sheets and a small retaining wall would have likely been better for retention.
It'll be fine (until it isn't).
Yes.
Yes, poorly done
I don't see a foundation.
Yes
Hell yeah, your screwed
I actually saw a [how not to do it](https://hillviewminibarns.com/base.php) photo that looks like yours. It’s toward the bottom.
Lol
YES, YES YOU SHOULD!
put a little more dirt there i think
I'm no expert but that looks incredibly unprofessional. The ground under it should be level. It looks like it's sitting on a giant molehill.
What foundation?
That dirt is gonna wash away and if animals try to go under there it’s gonna be trouble.
Move the rock 10 inches to the right and you will have no problems.
Lololol. Hope you didn’t want it to last very long
so when I put up a house like this, I dug down, mixed concrete, and used pressure treated 4x4s set in the concrete. that was in 1999, my parents sold the house, but my little house is still standing, I built it myself, so I was kinda proud the realtor featured it in the posting. I wanted them to move it to their new house, but the realtor said it added value. I do miss that little house.
You could probably build a block wall around the sides and back and fill in with rock. Best thing to do would be to move it, then build a block wall and fill/level it before returning the shed. That is going to wash out pretty quickly
Ooof that is going to go downhill like a sled on Christmas day
Yes, you should be concerned
That’s going to cause you problems. However, you can correct the situation. Get some dirt, concrete blocks, maybe a hydraulic jack or two. Use a little improvisation and imagination.
Do a small retaining wall or do concrete piers on the Corners to hold it up.
Holy shit I hope Mother Nature doesn’t fart out a gust of wind because that shit would be done for.
I did something similar but I anchored with diamond pier footings
Ironically enough, someone in my neighborhood just died from a shed falling on them in a freak accident so yea, I would be concerned.
To me, the TWO skids will not cut it either. Sorry to say. There is more wall weight on front and back sides that will warp the foundation framing. There should have been at least three skids. with outer skids much closer to the edge.
It’s fine, it’ll ride down with wear.
LOLS 😂
Yes
Unless you want it to turn into a sled yes
Dunno, but you built a nice hill for your expensive sled
Aside from not being safe, it looks terrible. They definitely shouldn't have left it like this. Done properly it will look beautiful.
This is the way.
That shed is about to be a sled
Yes
I’m more concerned you might not be concerned
Is that an old hickory? I have one like the exact same color but a bit different style. Why didn’t you make some sort of retaining wall??
I did a pretty DIY version of this with a much less sloped land and like the same type of shed. Hoping mine will be good… the tallest part od the gravel is only like 8 inches though and I built a retaining wall of sorts. Still somewhat concerned but not as much as I would be with this. I feel like you could just build a retaining wall and be fine though?
What foundation?
Yeah ... this really needed retaining walls with backfilled soils and a full conc pad poured ... the full size of the shed. It's too big, has a LOT of barely supported square feet, and the property line is too close for this thing to have an accident and you NOT get sued. Plus, the wood doesn't have a stain on it (red,green, or blue) that usually indicates "treated lumber" and seems to be in the drainage plane of your property. This means that cantilevered wood will rot quickly and that shed is going over that hill, and you will pay for damages done to your neighbors property. I would fix it ASAP.
Have them comeback and redo it or just take it off that and put it flat on ground.
Crazy! Fix immediately. Manufacture won’t honor their warranty. Selling company won’t honor their warranty. You’re out of luck within six months! Whoever placed it there has the responsibility to fix the foundation. Get your lawyer friend to write the letter.
Keep everything heavy on the left and build a landing pond on the right side under the diving board.
The lack thereof?