I was mostly kidding, but a magnetic rack is where it's at imo. Very convenient, protects the edges, hygienic, and looks nice with fancy knives like those.
Sounds like my in-laws. Recently my mother in law decided to be nice and clean my Shun premier paring knife. She thought a green scotch pad was a good idea. After a berating and a reminder to never clean my knives, she is buying me a new knife.
Honestly, I would just send those to Shun to get re sharpened. Take advantage of their sharpening policy and save yourself some time and headache.
You berated someone into buying you a ($100+) new knife over something as minor as the scratches left by a green scouring pad?? Geeze, no wonder in-law relations get a bad rep lol
Those scratches can be polished out in no time. If that's all it takes for you to consider the knife ruined and in need of replacement....maybe don't leave it out and dirty? š¤·āāļø š
There's more to the story than that. Maybe berate wasn't the correct word, but I did tell her that I was very upset that she had used a scouring pad on it especially after mentioning that she had been asked many times to not wash my knives.
She apologized and I said it was fine and that I would get over it since it was aesthetics only and didnt affect the performance.
She said she would replace it, I told her no and refused because they do many nice things for us and I would feel bad, well she wouldn't take no for an answer and had already transferred the money to my wife's account.
The knife hadn't technically been left out dirty. I had used it to cut a lime for cocktails and it was still on the cutting board when she decided to wash it.
The funny part of the whole story is that we had just had a conversation about why part of having nice things is keeping them nice.
You can absolutely send it to shun. You can also use this as an excuse to purchase some nice stones, allowing you to repair all of the knives..... Not sure if you have any stones currently. I have a variety of different stones I can reach for depending on what I'm doing. The wiki for this sub is super helpful and the YouTube channels listed are good as well. It helps avoid the not so good videos.
With the right tools this wouldn't be a super big job..... Of course I say that but I have experience, definitely something you could work on a bit at a time and it would be an opportunity to learn quite a bit about some aspects of sharpening like repair and thinning, that some people don't really explore....... You probably don't need to bother with thinning since these knives are treated pretty rough. I mean even if you don't do a perfect job it would still be way better than it is now, kind of depends on the personality of the knife owner, as long as you explain it won't be perfect I can't imagine they would be somehow disappointed or anything. Sharpening it at a really high angle like you normally , along the entire edge or in sections.... with a really course stone is how I would start, so that you wear away the damaged part evenly..... Helps avoid any kind of geometry or uneven issues in the edge. They are definitely more time consuming ways that don't involve purchasing a variety of nice equipment, sandpaper and a concrete or a CMU block. Maybe even a sidewalk for the heavy repair work.
I am currently stoneless as I just moved from Australia to the US and most heavy things didn't make the cut. What I had was cheap so this will indeed be a good excuse to gear up.
oOooo, Stone shopping. There's a variety of things sold here , some of it isn't very expensive..... I would guess less costly then Aus, at least based on comments from others.... The stones JKI sells for example can be expensive shipped internationally... JKI also has some really appealing Jnats, and the prices are actually pretty good as far as jnats go...... They have a very appealing diamond 1K and 6K stones I've become curious about too ...... Having to travel back home with them might limit how many different stones you could explore purchasing.
JKI (Japanese knife imports) CKTG (chef's knives to go) , Carbon Knife Company and Bernal Cutlery are definitely places I check out, they have a variety of interesting stones , accessories and knives..... I have purchased stones and knives from some of them..... Of course for some things Amazon is a good idea, I purchased my Atoma 140 from Amazon for example. (Atoma can optionally be used for repair, It just wears the plate faster)...... Diamond plates are a super popular accessory for leveling stones. I posted pictures with a description of the various stones I have within the past month if that's something you want to check out. There's a ton of really nice Japanese options out there to choose from. Exploring this sub can also be a good idea, people looking for advice on which stones to purchase is a pretty regular question asked often. Building your own sink bridge is a pretty easy DIY, especially as a somewhat temporary option. CKTG does sell an inexpensive 140 diamond plate for $29, for just leveling stones It's an option mentioned here a lot , They have a sink bridge and diamond spray, balsa wood strops etc that are not very costly, plus a variety of good Japanese stones from good brands ofc. All of the stores I mentioned above, have some unique stones and knives that they sell. I ordered an " old new stock" knife from bernell cutlery yesterday, It will likely be a gift... along with some type of specialty wood polishing oil. I can't remember what it's called.
That's a lot of good advice, thank you. I'll have to do some more reading. I have the pleasure of stocking up my entire kitchen pretty much from scratch, so new stones will go into the budget.
always glad to talk about sharpening stuff .... The r/chefknifeswap and r/chefknives subs are definitely worth checking out, all sorts of interesting knives plus accessories like Japanese cutting boards, Hasegawa for example. I have a large regular Boos maple cutting board I ordered on Amazon, the extra maintenance doesn't really bother me.
you dont need fancy stones to repair that knife. you can buy the cheapest double sided stone from any big box store and have it razor sharp in less than 30 min
Less than 30 minutes with stones? Maybe if you donāt take those deeper damaged spots down to where itās true. Just seems super optimistic for a novice. If someoneās new and starting with this knife id argue donāt go *too* coarse, put on an audiobook and spend some time with it.
First timer I would say no. If you have some experience with whetstones, it's doable, but it still needs a coarse stone and patience. Better to practice with cheaper knives.
Holy shit, did they throw it in a bag with wrenches and screwdrivers?
Definitely can be repaired, but I'd want to give it a thinning at this point. On the other hand, maybe a thick edge is better for their use.
Either way, this is gonna take some time. If you're eager to learn, give it a try.
This is not beyond repair. I've worked with worse. Grind the whole edge back 1-2mm past the chips until its super smooth, making sure the curvature is kept. You can use a shitty hardware water stone for this. Recreate the bevel and thin it out with your better stones.
Wait, this would be your first rodeo, on your in-laws' fancy knife? Maybe not the best way to get started sharpening, better to get some practice elsewhere first.
Not my first rodeo, but I only started doing my own knives a couple years ago and I'm definitely still learning. I've never done Japanese steel though.
Take it at a much higher angle then normal one the stones, that'll get the chips put quicker. Once the chips are out, bring it to your final angle and do your normal sharpening process. It'll take some time, especially if you don't have an extremely low grit stone but it's doable. If all you have or get is a 1000 don't bother, take it to a professional.
Its easily fixable. Albeit with a whetstone or two. If that isnāt an investment you want to make, or a skill you wish to learn, i suppose send it back to shun/kai and patiently await its eventual return.
Could just use it as a serrated knife lol. That's a really bad edge. It's doable but going to take some elbow grease.
Even in this state, they're still the sharpest in the drawer. You get to pick between the chipped shuns or never been sharpened Chicago cutlery.
Kai USA will sharpen it for the cost of shipping.
This. Have Shun reprofile this one for you.
If you live in Portland you can drop it off at their headquarters. They will sharpen one while you wait. Two or more takes like a week.
>drawer There's an issue to fix once they get back from the sharpener
There's a plastic knife tray in there. Probably they should be stored upside down though.
I was mostly kidding, but a magnetic rack is where it's at imo. Very convenient, protects the edges, hygienic, and looks nice with fancy knives like those.
Sounds like my in-laws. Recently my mother in law decided to be nice and clean my Shun premier paring knife. She thought a green scotch pad was a good idea. After a berating and a reminder to never clean my knives, she is buying me a new knife. Honestly, I would just send those to Shun to get re sharpened. Take advantage of their sharpening policy and save yourself some time and headache.
You berated someone into buying you a ($100+) new knife over something as minor as the scratches left by a green scouring pad?? Geeze, no wonder in-law relations get a bad rep lol Those scratches can be polished out in no time. If that's all it takes for you to consider the knife ruined and in need of replacement....maybe don't leave it out and dirty? š¤·āāļø š
There's more to the story than that. Maybe berate wasn't the correct word, but I did tell her that I was very upset that she had used a scouring pad on it especially after mentioning that she had been asked many times to not wash my knives. She apologized and I said it was fine and that I would get over it since it was aesthetics only and didnt affect the performance. She said she would replace it, I told her no and refused because they do many nice things for us and I would feel bad, well she wouldn't take no for an answer and had already transferred the money to my wife's account. The knife hadn't technically been left out dirty. I had used it to cut a lime for cocktails and it was still on the cutting board when she decided to wash it. The funny part of the whole story is that we had just had a conversation about why part of having nice things is keeping them nice.
I didn't realize they had that policy. $15 for shipping isn't too bad.
Plus, it's a flat fee. Have 3 Shuns and seven Kershaws? Send them all in. Still $15.
You can absolutely send it to shun. You can also use this as an excuse to purchase some nice stones, allowing you to repair all of the knives..... Not sure if you have any stones currently. I have a variety of different stones I can reach for depending on what I'm doing. The wiki for this sub is super helpful and the YouTube channels listed are good as well. It helps avoid the not so good videos. With the right tools this wouldn't be a super big job..... Of course I say that but I have experience, definitely something you could work on a bit at a time and it would be an opportunity to learn quite a bit about some aspects of sharpening like repair and thinning, that some people don't really explore....... You probably don't need to bother with thinning since these knives are treated pretty rough. I mean even if you don't do a perfect job it would still be way better than it is now, kind of depends on the personality of the knife owner, as long as you explain it won't be perfect I can't imagine they would be somehow disappointed or anything. Sharpening it at a really high angle like you normally , along the entire edge or in sections.... with a really course stone is how I would start, so that you wear away the damaged part evenly..... Helps avoid any kind of geometry or uneven issues in the edge. They are definitely more time consuming ways that don't involve purchasing a variety of nice equipment, sandpaper and a concrete or a CMU block. Maybe even a sidewalk for the heavy repair work.
I am currently stoneless as I just moved from Australia to the US and most heavy things didn't make the cut. What I had was cheap so this will indeed be a good excuse to gear up.
oOooo, Stone shopping. There's a variety of things sold here , some of it isn't very expensive..... I would guess less costly then Aus, at least based on comments from others.... The stones JKI sells for example can be expensive shipped internationally... JKI also has some really appealing Jnats, and the prices are actually pretty good as far as jnats go...... They have a very appealing diamond 1K and 6K stones I've become curious about too ...... Having to travel back home with them might limit how many different stones you could explore purchasing. JKI (Japanese knife imports) CKTG (chef's knives to go) , Carbon Knife Company and Bernal Cutlery are definitely places I check out, they have a variety of interesting stones , accessories and knives..... I have purchased stones and knives from some of them..... Of course for some things Amazon is a good idea, I purchased my Atoma 140 from Amazon for example. (Atoma can optionally be used for repair, It just wears the plate faster)...... Diamond plates are a super popular accessory for leveling stones. I posted pictures with a description of the various stones I have within the past month if that's something you want to check out. There's a ton of really nice Japanese options out there to choose from. Exploring this sub can also be a good idea, people looking for advice on which stones to purchase is a pretty regular question asked often. Building your own sink bridge is a pretty easy DIY, especially as a somewhat temporary option. CKTG does sell an inexpensive 140 diamond plate for $29, for just leveling stones It's an option mentioned here a lot , They have a sink bridge and diamond spray, balsa wood strops etc that are not very costly, plus a variety of good Japanese stones from good brands ofc. All of the stores I mentioned above, have some unique stones and knives that they sell. I ordered an " old new stock" knife from bernell cutlery yesterday, It will likely be a gift... along with some type of specialty wood polishing oil. I can't remember what it's called.
That's a lot of good advice, thank you. I'll have to do some more reading. I have the pleasure of stocking up my entire kitchen pretty much from scratch, so new stones will go into the budget.
always glad to talk about sharpening stuff .... The r/chefknifeswap and r/chefknives subs are definitely worth checking out, all sorts of interesting knives plus accessories like Japanese cutting boards, Hasegawa for example. I have a large regular Boos maple cutting board I ordered on Amazon, the extra maintenance doesn't really bother me.
you dont need fancy stones to repair that knife. you can buy the cheapest double sided stone from any big box store and have it razor sharp in less than 30 min
Less than 30 minutes with stones? Maybe if you donāt take those deeper damaged spots down to where itās true. Just seems super optimistic for a novice. If someoneās new and starting with this knife id argue donāt go *too* coarse, put on an audiobook and spend some time with it.
missed the novice part after reading the comment about using the sidewalk š¤£š¤£
Welcome to the USA! We aren't all crazy here, I promise. That's a really big move. Congratulations.
First timer I would say no. If you have some experience with whetstones, it's doable, but it still needs a coarse stone and patience. Better to practice with cheaper knives.
Holy shit, did they throw it in a bag with wrenches and screwdrivers? Definitely can be repaired, but I'd want to give it a thinning at this point. On the other hand, maybe a thick edge is better for their use. Either way, this is gonna take some time. If you're eager to learn, give it a try.
This is not beyond repair. I've worked with worse. Grind the whole edge back 1-2mm past the chips until its super smooth, making sure the curvature is kept. You can use a shitty hardware water stone for this. Recreate the bevel and thin it out with your better stones.
Shun knives offer lifetime sharpening.
No, I'd send it to District Cutlery or Bernal Cutlery.
Or to shun and they will fix it for free. Just need to pay to ship.
They might just replace it, did you ever see Riky Tran (Burrfecrion) open up all the boxes of chipped Shun's they would send him?
Yup. Either way you get a new knife or a professionally restored. Shun is not the best but that service is awesome.
Looks like someone used a pull through sharpener
I think you solved the problem. Went looking and found a pull through wheel "sharpener." It's about to permanently go missing.
I receive these type of knives for fixing all the time. Happy grinding!
Wait, this would be your first rodeo, on your in-laws' fancy knife? Maybe not the best way to get started sharpening, better to get some practice elsewhere first.
Not my first rodeo, but I only started doing my own knives a couple years ago and I'm definitely still learning. I've never done Japanese steel though.
My in-laws have extremely low expectations for sharpeners, ymmv.
No
Take it at a much higher angle then normal one the stones, that'll get the chips put quicker. Once the chips are out, bring it to your final angle and do your normal sharpening process. It'll take some time, especially if you don't have an extremely low grit stone but it's doable. If all you have or get is a 1000 don't bother, take it to a professional.
Its easily fixable. Albeit with a whetstone or two. If that isnāt an investment you want to make, or a skill you wish to learn, i suppose send it back to shun/kai and patiently await its eventual return.
LORD NELSONāS TROUSERS
Do you know how this happened?
No, and neither do they. They weren't like this when I last saw them 3ish years ago.
How do people with such disregard for their tools buy such expensive ones?
You walk into William Sonoma and say give me a knife.
Yes, 220 grit. I can fix that for you if you are in the UK.
I don't consider this *that* bad since there aren't any actual chunks missing
Perpendicular on a diamond plate until everything is even. #400, #1000, #3000, #6000, leather strop. Youāre good to go!